oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2002-03 00043

[Mark Garrison <blubry(a)...]

Hello Hans,

Thank you for going to the trouble of providing some clues.  I agree,
learning more aboout my German-Dutch ancestor will be hard work, but
certainly worthwhile.

Regards,

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "HHB" <hhb(a)...
To: <oldenburg-l(a)...
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: Fw: [OL]Advice re van Oldenburg ancestor


> Hello Mark !
>
> I searched some sources in Oldenburg. The one which returned a "positive
> signal" was Dr. Walter SCHAUB "Bürgeraufnahmen der Stadt Oldenburg
> 1607-1740 (August LAX-Verlagsbuchhandlung Hildesheim 1974)".  ( There is a
> further compiled book by Dr. Schaub titled "Bürgerverzeichnis".)
> Even if you will not find an entry in the church records there should be
> enough other sources to verify the link of a family named Jansen (
Janssen,
> Jannssen, Janzen, etc.) between Oldenburg and Amsterdam but it should be a
> hard work.
>
> 1633
> 1631 g. (5.12.)    Anna Jansen, von Amsterdam, Frau  von Johan
Stevelmacher.
> BG: 5 RT
> ...
> 1650
> 1650 p. 16.11.    Gerdt Jansen, Hutmacher, von der Kloppenborg. BG: 3 RT
>
> There are more JANSEN (also Janssen but not a Janzen ) but no one with an
> obvious relationship to the name of GERRIT JANSEN.
>
>
> Grretings from the country of Oldenburg.
>
>
> Hans-H.Büsselmann
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Rowold <prowold(a)...
> > To: <oldenburg-l(a)... <blubry(a)...
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OL]Advice re van Oldenburg ancestor
> >
> > Mark
> > Gerrit Jansen van Oldenburg sound very dutch although his origional
> > ancestors could come from Oldenburg.
> > Mine came from Oldenburg around 1750 and stayed in Amsterdam until now.
> Both
> > worlds available. Maybe I can be any help when I'm in the Amsterdam
> > Municipal Archives to take a quick look. Gerrit must be one of the first
> > immigrants to New York (New Amsterdam). About those first settlers is
some
> > litterature available and I saw a map with all the properties of
> Manhattan.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Garrison" <blubry(a)...
> > To: <Oldenburg-L(a)...
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:53 PM
> > Subject: [OL]Advice re van Oldenburg ancestor
> >
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I would appreciate any advice/help re my ancestor, Gerrit Jansen van
> > Oldenburg, whose antedents and place of birth are unknown.  The first
> > evidence of him in the New World (or anywhere) is a document signed in
> 1632
> > by Peter Minuet instructing that Gerrit, his farm manager in New
> Amsterdam,
> > should convey certain property to Killian van Rensselaer.  The
genealogist
> > who made the documentary link to my line of Garrisons speculates that
> Gerrit
> > was of German descent in view of the van Oldenburg appelation, citing
the
> > fact that Oldenburg is near the Dutch border.  However, Gerrit seems to
> have
> > been closely connected to the Dutch community in New Amsterdam--his
> children
> > were all baptized in the Dutch Reformed Church--so I question whether he
> > might not have been Dutch rather than German.  Any advice or comments
> about
> > the van Oldenburg appelation would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Mark Garrison
> > Warwick,  Rhode Island, USA
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