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Which Parish

Date: 1999/02/01 02:35:39
From: emhuber <emhuber(a)ibm.net>

My ggrandparents are from Hagebok near Neuburg, how does one find the correct parish records to search.
    town        parish
Hagebok    Neuburg
Neuburg    Neuburg bei Wismar
Neuburg    Grab Pankow
 

Which Parish

Date: 1999/02/01 02:39:43
From: emhuber <emhuber(a)ibm.net>

 
My ggrandparents are from Hagebok near Neuburg, how does one find the correct parish records to search.
    town        parish
Hagebok    Neuburg
Neuburg    Neuburg bei Wismar
Neuburg    Grab Pankow
 
Thanks!  Dale Huber 

Naturalization Papers

Date: 1999/02/01 17:56:30
From: kllibsta <kllibsta(a)oakland.edu>

Hello everyone,
  In my efforts to research my family history, I decided to check out some
church records on a particular ancestor.  This is the "earliest"
generation I am able to trace here, and I was wondering if I can find
naturalization papers at the county courthouse?  Or, is there another step
I should be taking prior to this?
  Any suggestions are appreciated.
                                      Kristofer L. Libstaff
                                      
Researching: Luebstorff (emigrated from Mecklenburg-Schwerin to Dundee
[Monroe Co.], Michigan), Koepke (Meck.-S.-Dundee, MI)


Re: Naturalization Papers

Date: 1999/02/02 17:03:46
From: Cynthia C. Turk <cynthia.turk(a)juno.com>

Dear Kristopher,

	Naturalization papers in the USA are not too difficult to get from the
courthouse or their archive if you know when and where.  The 1900, 1910
and 1920 federal census schedules should tell you about when, so you can
figure where the person lived then.  1870 census asked if males were
elibible to vote.  
	A lesser known method of finding where the naturalization took place is
the voter registration rolls.  The board of elections keeps these.  Some
places required registration to vote and proof of citizenship.  This may
have included the specific court and date of naturalization.   The bigger
the city, the better chance of finding this.  If everybody knew
everybody, they did not need registration.  
	Good luck.
Cynthia from Ohio

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:56:15 -0500 (EST) kllibsta <kllibsta(a)oakland.edu>
writes:
>Hello everyone,
>  In my efforts to research my family history, I decided to check out 
>some
>church records on a particular ancestor.  This is the "earliest"
>generation I am able to trace here, and I was wondering if I can find
>naturalization papers at the county courthouse?  Or, is there another 
>step
>I should be taking prior to this?
>  Any suggestions are appreciated.
>                                      Kristofer L. Libstaff
>                                      
>Researching: Luebstorff (emigrated from Mecklenburg-Schwerin to 
>Dundee
>[Monroe Co.], Michigan), Koepke (Meck.-S.-Dundee, MI)
>
>

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Rauck emigrants from Mecklenburg

Date: 1999/02/03 03:57:15
From: Michael Rauck <rauck(a)iname.com>

Who knows about the following emigrants?

The US Census of 1860 lists the following two families, who are
from Mecklenburg.

1) [Immigration date between 1835/1860]
John Rauck, farmer, Vernon Township, Waukesha County, Wisconsin,
64 years, born in Mecklenburg
wife: Wilhelmina, 58 years, born in Mecklenburg
Son: Bobey (not clearly readable), 25 years, born in Mecklenburg

2) [Immigration date between 1851/53]
Ham (not clearly readable) Rauck, farmer, Waterford Township,
Racine County, Wisconsin, 40 years, born in Mecklenburg
wife: Dora, 40 years, born in Mecklenburg
children:
Dora, 9 years, born in Mecklenburg
John, 7 years, born in Wisconsin
Fritz, 4 years, born in Wisconsin
Henry, 1 year, born in Wisconsin
Ans? (not clearly readable), 1 year, born in Wisconsin

(For 1854, "Germans to America" lists a Dora Rauck, male (sic!),
from Bavaria, Labourer, arrived at New York on the vessel
"William Stetson" from Liverpool, destination was Missouri.)

It is the first time I found some Rauck from that area.


Any hint will be appreciated. Could you send an email directly to
me?
Michael Rauck
rauck(a)iname.com







Re: Which Parish

Date: 1999/02/03 20:58:45
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hagebo"k (historically there was Alt and Neu) belongs to
parish Neuburg near Wismar.

Sincerely,
Dieter

> emhuber(a)ibm.net schrieb:
> 
> 
> My ggrandparents are from Hagebok near Neuburg, how does one find the
> correct parish records to search.
>     town        parish
> Hagebok    Neuburg
> Neuburg    Neuburg bei Wismar
> Neuburg    Grab Pankow
> 
> Thanks!  Dale Huber



Re: Anhensee

Date: 1999/02/04 05:36:35
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi, Cindy,
 
I can't find any Anhensee in Mecklenburg. There was a Arendsee, but not
close to Klein Sien (not Sein !)
If you feel it make sense to send a file or a fax with the name of the
village, please, send it and I will try my best to decipher.
 
Sincerely,
Dieter
 
The FAX in my office: 011-49-381-4981520 My name must be on the sheet.


Re: Which Parish

Date: 1999/02/04 11:21:36
From: emhuber <emhuber(a)ibm.net>

Dieter ,
    Thank you for the info.
    Dale


NEUHORST village location in Kreis Arnswalde---please help locate.

Date: 1999/02/04 16:37:34
From: MDPSYCH <MDPSYCH(a)aol.com>

dear fellow genealogists,  my grandparents originated from Neuhorst, Kreis
Arnswalde, but i can't find it or any information about it.  can anyone help
me ?        sincerely, bob trahms

1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/05 17:43:22
From: Jack Radtke <jradtke(a)thesurf.com>

I have just finished viewing the 1819 census LDS Film # 068900  for
SCHWERIN D.A. . Thought I would list the villages that are on this film,
as we all appear to have the same problem as to what villages are on
which census film. Perhaps a little extra time spent posting the
villages that are on the census films we have viewed, could help many.

Jack Radtke


VILLAGE			PAGE
------------		----
Banzkow			1
Boeken			60
Boldela			70
Buchholz		82
Consrade		338
Dalberg			88
Dalliendorf		113
Dambeck			125
Drieberg Hof		151
Drieberg Dorf		165
Driespeth		176
Fähre			193
Fasanerie		196
Friedrichstal		198
Gallentin		205
Godern			216
Godern Mühl		224
Goldenstädt		226
Görries		 	246
Grevenhagen		266
Haselholz		276
Holthusen		280
Hundorf			298	
Jamel			308
Kalkwerder		320
Kaninchenwerder		322
Kleinen			324
Krebsförden		347
Lankow			365
Lehmkuhlen		389
Lieps Insel		405
Lübesse			407
Lübstorf		418
Lübstorf Neu		431
Gross Medewege		437
Klein Medewege		449
Meteln Hof		459
Meteln Dorf		471
Mirow			499
Mueß			517

Re: 1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/06 06:06:33
From: Mary C Bowen <mcbowen(a)juno.com>

 I agree--and all the lists that are posted, I will put on the
Mecklenburg WorldGenWeb pages so they can be kept there on a permanent
basis.

I just completed looking at the Crivitz R.A. film #068911. The villages
on this film:

Augustenhof	1
Badegow		5
Bülow		9
Dämelow		17
Dannhusen	21
Dreetz		136
Frauenmark	23
Greven		29
Gustävel		40
Herzberg		48
Holzendorf	120
Kladow		81
Kölpin		95
Kritzow		100
Kuhlen		110
Lenschow	66
Müggenburg	14
Müsselmow	115
Panstorf		127
Parum		204
Peetsch		130
Peetscherhof	136
Rehagen		88
Rönkendorf	93
Rubow s.r.a. Meckl.
Samelow		91
Alt Schlagsdorf s.r.a. Meckl.
Schlieven		143
Schönberg	23
Schönlage	148
Tessin		156, 161
Vorbeck		162
Wamckow	166
Weberin		183
Wendorf		188
Wessin		196
Wilhelminenhof	204
Zaschendorf	215
Zibühl		219



Please---others of you who can, post the names of villages on the various
films.

Carol Bowen
On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:38:54 -0600 Jack Radtke <jradtke(a)thesurf.com>
writes:
>I have just finished viewing the 1819 census LDS Film # 068900  for
>SCHWERIN D.A. . Thought I would list the villages that are on this 
>film,
>as we all appear to have the same problem as to what villages are on
>which census film. Perhaps a little extra time spent posting the
>villages that are on the census films we have viewed, could help many.
>
>Jack Radtke
.

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Re: 1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/06 20:59:49
From: Kashathree <Kashathree(a)aol.com>

I thought Altstadt was a village in Schwerin, but you did not list it.
Perhaps I misunderstood, and Altstadt is a Parish.  Could anyone tell me for
what village in Schwerin Alstadt is a Parish?

	Barb

RE: 1819 Census Info - Grabow D.A.

Date: 1999/02/06 21:37:27
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

I just viewed LDS Film #0068884  D.A. Grabow of the 1819 Mecklenburg census
and it contained these villages:

(some of the handwriting is illegible so they are my best guess)

Rummer?
Gr. Laasch
Hauchmühl?
Leussow
Neuhoff
Pampin
Platschaw?
Pottendorf
Prislich
Semmerin
Straassen
Techentin
Wanglitz (Amt.)
Ziegendorf
Zierzow

If anyone has any corrections as to the above villages, please let me know.

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

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Re: 1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/06 22:37:59
From: Mary C Bowen <mcbowen(a)juno.com>

Thanks Julie for posting the villages on the film you are using.  
For your  list of villages on D.A. Grabow, and after looking at the
genealogical society's site on village names, I suggest the following:

Dümmer  (The villages are alphabetical and this is the only one in the
early part of the alphabet that fits)
Gr. Laasch
Hauptsmühle
Leussow
Neuhof
Pampin
Platschow
Poppendorf
Prislich
Semmerin
Strassen
Techentin
Wanlitz (Amt)
Ziegendorf
Zierzow

If anyone from Mecklenburg, such as Dieter, finds any errors, please let
me know. I will post these to the 1819 film reference on the Mecklenburg
WorldGenWeb pages at http:pages.prodigy.net/jhbowen/


Carol Bowen

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JENNERJOHN-RAUCHHELDT-TEMPLIN

Date: 1999/02/06 22:53:27
From: Dick/Kay Reitberger <reitstuf(a)execpc.com>

Christian C. JENNERJAHN born April 29, 1853  in Remlin,
Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany.   He emigrated on the 
ship  Frisia in May 1882 with his wife, Carolina 
RAUCHHELDT, born October 19, 1855 in 
Mecklenburg-Schwerin.  She was baptized in Grogen? 
on October 28, 1855.  She is the daughter of Friedrich
Johann RAUCHHELDT and Johanna Maria Elizabeth 
TEMPLIN.  Also with them when they emigrated  were, 
Emma born October 21, 1875, and Bertha, born October
12, 1879.

After they arrived in the U.S. they had the following children,
     Minnie, born June 16, 1882
     Ida born April 23, 1884
     Freda born September 12, 1885
     Mary born February 10, 1887
     Matilda born 1888
    William born May 18, 1890
     Edward born May 16, 1892  (My grandfather)

Any information on these families, names, or town would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance,
Kay R   reitstuf(a)execpc.com




Introduction

Date: 1999/02/07 02:23:13
From: Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net>

Hello to you all:

I am happy to have joined your mailing list.  My name is Stephen Mueller and
I live in Aiken, South Carolina USA.  I was born in South Dakota.  I am
slowly acquiring an understanding of my ancestors' lives near Eldena
Mecklenburg, and their emigration around 1880 into New York then to Clayton
County Iowa, until settling at Wall Lake Township in South Dakota. Their
names are:

Muchow
Moller
Schroeder
Lueth

 One question which puzzles me is how I may learn how a specific village was
named.  There is small village named Muchow near Eldena which I would love
to learn about.  Are the messages to this list archived?


Last year I had the opportunity to briefly drive through this area.  I was
enchanted.


Regards,

Stephen





Re: Introduction

Date: 1999/02/08 03:35:21
From: Dottie Davis <dottiedavis(a)yahoo.com>

Hi Stephen! It's nice to hear someone else besides me has ancestors
near Eldena. My GGGf Johan Christian Diedrich WEINBERG was married to
a Lucia Dorothea Hanne Moller on 10JUL1882. She was born in Liep in
1763 & died 15DEC1827 in Gohren. Her father was Johan Jurgen Moller of
Liep. My information was obtained from LDS documents #0069085 &
#0069086. As I recall there are other Mollers listed but I am
interested only in the descendents of Johan Christian Diedrich
Weinberg & his first wife, Anna Catharina Ahrend(t). Good luck! Dottie




---Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net> wrote:
>
> Hello to you all:
> 
> I am happy to have joined your mailing list.  My name is Stephen
Mueller and
> I live in Aiken, South Carolina USA.  I was born in South Dakota.  I
am
> slowly acquiring an understanding of my ancestors' lives near Eldena
> Mecklenburg, and their emigration around 1880 into New York then to
Clayton
> County Iowa, until settling at Wall Lake Township in South Dakota.
Their
> names are:
> 
> Muchow
> Moller
> Schroeder
> Lueth
> 
>  One question which puzzles me is how I may learn how a specific
village was
> named.  There is small village named Muchow near Eldena which I
would love
> to learn about.  Are the messages to this list archived?
> 
> 
> Last year I had the opportunity to briefly drive through this area. 
I was
> enchanted.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Introduction

Date: 1999/02/08 04:14:20
From: Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net>

Hello Dottie,

We are surely related somehow, but sorting it out would not be easy.  Too
bad to hear that you are the only person on the list with ancestors from
around Eldena.

My Great Grandfather was born Johann Jochim Wilhelm Heinrich Moller on
December 9, 1864 in Glasin Mecklenburg. Henry (as he was called) emigrated
by himself in 1883. His father's name was Johann Jurgen Friederick Moller,
born 1832.   All my Mecklenburg ancestors seem to have first traveled to
Postville, Clayton County Iowa, spent a few years then made claims in Wall
Lake Dakota Territory.

Gohren comes up often when researching my Mecklenburg ancestors.

Stephen
.






>Hi Stephen! It's nice to hear someone else besides me has ancestors
>near Eldena. My GGGf Johan Christian Diedrich WEINBERG was married to
>a Lucia Dorothea Hanne Moller on 10JUL1882. She was born in Liep in
>1763 & died 15DEC1827 in Gohren. Her father was Johan Jurgen Moller of
>Liep. My information was obtained from LDS documents #0069085 &
>#0069086. As I recall there are other Mollers listed but I am
>interested only in the descendents of Johan Christian Diedrich
>Weinberg & his first wife, Anna Catharina Ahrend(t). Good luck! Dottie
>
>
>
>



Re: Introduction

Date: 1999/02/08 04:49:04
From: Cesar Gaertner <cesar(a)burgoyne.com>

Hi Dottie! My GGGf Johann Friederich Gaertner was married while living in
Liep by Eldena in 1833, with Charllote Sophia Carolina Toennies. He was a
teacher in a school attached to the church in Eldena. CSC Toennies had a
sister, Anna Paulina Toennies, married in the same parish with a Zarnow
around the same time. I got this information from the same source. That
makes more than two people researching in the same area. If you have any
additional hints, please let me know.

Cesar Gaertner



Dottie Davis wrote:

> Hi Stephen! It's nice to hear someone else besides me has ancestors
> near Eldena. My GGGf Johan Christian Diedrich WEINBERG was married to
> a Lucia Dorothea Hanne Moller on 10JUL1882. She was born in Liep in
> 1763 & died 15DEC1827 in Gohren. Her father was Johan Jurgen Moller of
> Liep. My information was obtained from LDS documents #0069085 &
> #0069086. As I recall there are other Mollers listed but I am
> interested only in the descendents of Johan Christian Diedrich
> Weinberg & his first wife, Anna Catharina Ahrend(t). Good luck! Dottie
>
> ---Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to you all:
> >
> > I am happy to have joined your mailing list.  My name is Stephen
> Mueller and
> > I live in Aiken, South Carolina USA.  I was born in South Dakota.  I
> am
> > slowly acquiring an understanding of my ancestors' lives near Eldena
> > Mecklenburg, and their emigration around 1880 into New York then to
> Clayton
> > County Iowa, until settling at Wall Lake Township in South Dakota.
> Their
> > names are:
> >
> > Muchow
> > Moller
> > Schroeder
> > Lueth
> >
> >  One question which puzzles me is how I may learn how a specific
> village was
> > named.  There is small village named Muchow near Eldena which I
> would love
> > to learn about.  Are the messages to this list archived?
> >
> >
> > Last year I had the opportunity to briefly drive through this area.
> I was
> > enchanted.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
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Re: JENNERJOHN-RAUCHHELDT-TEMPLIN

Date: 1999/02/08 07:11:36
From: WICHMANN <WICHMANN(a)aol.com>

Hello

There was a Jennerjohn that was a member of St Peter Lutheran Ch  in Sturgeon
Bay Wisc.  They owned a moving company called Penninsula Transfer

Bob


In a message dated 2/6/99 5:35:41 PM Central Standard Time,
reitstuf(a)execpc.com writes:

<< Subj:	 JENNERJOHN-RAUCHHELDT-TEMPLIN
 Date:	2/6/99 5:35:41 PM Central Standard Time
 From:	reitstuf(a)execpc.com (Dick/Kay Reitberger)
 Sender:	owner-mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
 Reply-to:	mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
 To:	mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
 
 Christian C. JENNERJAHN born April 29, 1853  in Remlin,
 Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany.   He emigrated on the 
 ship  Frisia in May 1882 with his wife, Carolina 
 RAUCHHELDT, born October 19, 1855 in 
 Mecklenburg-Schwerin.  She was baptized in Grogen? 
 on October 28, 1855.  She is the daughter of Friedrich
 Johann RAUCHHELDT and Johanna Maria Elizabeth 
 TEMPLIN.  Also with them when they emigrated  were, 
 Emma born October 21, 1875, and Bertha, born October
 12, 1879.
 
 After they arrived in the U.S. they had the following children,
      Minnie, born June 16, 1882
      Ida born April 23, 1884
      Freda born September 12, 1885
      Mary born February 10, 1887
      Matilda born 1888
     William born May 18, 1890
      Edward born May 16, 1892  (My grandfather)
 
 Any information on these families, names, or town would be
 appreciated.  Thanks in advance,
 Kay R   reitstuf(a)execpc.com
 
  >>

Re: Wodrich

Date: 1999/02/08 07:53:29
From: WICHMANN <WICHMANN(a)aol.com>

Try              Bartow,     V"olschow ,  Plotz           Alt Tellin     and
Golchen


In a message dated 1/29/99 2:18:54 PM Central Standard Time, HamOp(a)aol.com
writes:

<< 
 Looking for an Evangelical Parish near the one in Daberkow.  Does anyone have
 knowledge of other Evangelical Churches in that general area.  Any
information
 will be appreciated.Many thanks.  Larry
 
  >>

MICKOW

Date: 1999/02/08 14:32:52
From: Joanne Strange <abigail(a)cei.net>

I am researchin the family name MICKOW. My g-grandmother, Maria Mickow,
born 1861 in Pinnow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, came to America around 1870 with
her mother, Louise Mickow, born 1830 and Henry Mickow, born 1860. They
settled in Chicago, Ill and I believe that they were Lutheran.  Any
information is greatly appreciated.
thank you,
Joanne Strange

Re: Introduction

Date: 1999/02/09 05:10:40
From: Trimpcca <Trimpcca(a)aol.com>

When it rains- it pours!  I'm also trying to find info about Glaisin near
Eldena.
My great ggrandfather Johann Jochim Jalass was born on Dec. 7, 1850.  On
Nov.23, 1877 he married Maria Sophia Schlichting br.9-13-1854.  They, together
with 5 children, came to Guersey, Iowa County,Iowa in 1895. They had been in
Iowa for less than a year when he was killed in a railroad accident.  That
incident was written about in a book that was published in German in the early
1900's.  That book was written by a teacher from Glaisin who had letters
written to him by people who came to the midwest, mainly from Iowa I believe.
Udo Baarck from Glaisin and others from the USA are involved in proving that
the book was fact and not fiction.  The family lived in Glaisin but went to
the Lutheran Church in Eldena.

Allen Trimpe

Re: 1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/09 17:23:06
From: Kashathree <Kashathree(a)aol.com>

Is Altstadt a village or a parish in Schwerin?

RE: Deutsches Geschlechterbuch Band 105

Date: 1999/02/09 18:08:21
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

Could someone that may have access to Band 105 (deals with Mecklenburg) of the
Deutsches Geschlechterbuch please look in the name index and tell me if there
is any reference made to the following family lines:

Ehmke (or any spelling variation)
Schoof   "  "
Fink  "   "  
Lendt/Lenth   "   "
Klook   "   "
Martienssen   "    "
Drews   "   "
Harms   "   "
Schwarck   "   "

Thank you!

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

RE: Baptism record translation

Date: 1999/02/09 19:21:37
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

Hello Group!

Could someone please help me with translations of a couple of
words/occupations I have found in baptismal records I have been looking at in
the Groß Laasch, Mecklenburg parish?

The first translation seems to be an occupation....at least it is in the same
position as in previous baptismal records.  It looks like "einwohner."  I
realize that means a citizen or inhabitant but what could it be as far as an
occupation is concerned?

The second has been appearing in the column of the baptism record that has the
child's name listed.  I have found that a lot of these baptismal records will
tell which child it is (i.e. the 4th child) of which marriage (i.e. of the
second marriage)...then there is a notation that looks like "(some number).
labendes."

Any ideas as to what these could mean?

Thanks for any help!

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

Re: Baptism record translation

Date: 1999/02/09 22:54:12
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi, Julie,

> position as in previous baptismal records.  It looks like "einwohner."  I
> realize that means a citizen or inhabitant but what could it be as far as an
> occupation is concerned?

In fact, it means 'citizen' of that town or villages, no occupation,
just an information. Often you may find other explanations like
'Bu"rger' or 'house owner'.

> The second has been appearing in the column of the baptism record that has the
> child's name listed.  I have found that a lot of these baptismal records will
> tell which child it is (i.e. the 4th child) of which marriage (i.e. of the
> second marriage)...then there is a notation that looks like "(some number).
> labendes."

should be 'lebendes' = 'still living'

Sincerely,
Dieter



Re: 1819 Census

Date: 1999/02/09 22:55:45
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Kashathree(a)aol.com schrieb:
> 
> I thought Altstadt was a village in Schwerin, but you did not list it.
> Perhaps I misunderstood, and Altstadt is a Parish.  Could anyone tell me for
> what village in Schwerin Alstadt is a Parish?

Large cities, like Schwerin, consist of several parishes. 
Schwerin: Meustadt, Altstadt, Vorstadt, Schloß, Zippendorf, Dom-Kapitel
(1819 census)

Sincerely,
Dieter



Re: Baptism record translation

Date: 1999/02/10 00:52:55
From: TiedemannG <TiedemannG(a)aol.com>

Einwohner usually has the meaning of inhabitant. But the way I read the query,
the term seems to have been in the column for profession or position. It would
seem that in this sense "Einwohner" is equivalent to the more widely used term
"Einlieger" (i.e. those who rented accommodation).
R G Tiedemann

Re: Deutsches Geschlechterbuch Band 105

Date: 1999/02/10 02:37:10
From: Tartan33EH <Tartan33EH(a)aol.com>

Hi:

We are interested in several of the names that you posted.  Our ancestors
settled in Michigan.  Any chance of a connection?

Thanks,

Ed 

Re: Baptism record translation

Date: 1999/02/10 15:17:34
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

Thank you Dieter!

P.S. have been having problems getting into the Mecklenburg Verein webpage.
Takes forever to get to, then logs me off before it ever comes up.  Have tried
throughout week and different times of the day...no difference!

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

Re: Deutsches Geschlechterbuch Band 105

Date: 1999/02/10 15:25:34
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

Hi Ed!

What names are you researching?  To date, I have not uncovered any of my
Mecklenburg lines to have settled in Michigan.  Although, I know there is a
bunch of Schoof's in Michigan.  But have made no connection to them yet.

Let me know what names you're interested in and I'll trade info with you.

Julie Ploehn-Vigna
JuJuBean11(a)aol.com

Access To Webpage

Date: 1999/02/10 19:19:53
From: Dieter Garling <garling(a)dfn.de>

> From: JuJuBean11(a)aol.com
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:15:45 EST
> P.S. have been having problems getting into the Mecklenburg Verein webpage.
> Takes forever to get to, then logs me off before it ever comes up.  Have tried
> throughout week and different times of the day...no difference!
> Julie Ploehn-Vigna

We use a forwarder at http://welcome.to/MFP
If this not works, you can try the direct address: 
http://www.math.uni-rostock.de/~mfp

Kind regards
Dieter

Member of the 'Verein fuer mecklenburgische Familien- und Personengeschichte'
http://www.garling.de/                             mailto:garling(a)bigfoot.com 


RE: Mecklenburg Gen. Outline & Gazateer

Date: 1999/02/10 20:38:26
From: Sherry <sherry(a)plugnplay.com>

JuJuBean11(a)aol.com wrote:

> What names are you researching?  To date, I have not uncovered any of
my
> Mecklenburg lines to have settled in Michigan.  Although, I know there
is
a
> bunch of Schoof's in Michigan.  But have made no connection to them
yet.
>
> Let me know what names you're interested in and I'll trade info with
you.
>
> Julie Ploehn-Vigna
> JuJuBean11(a)aol.com

Hi to All,
May I be of any assistance to those of you with Mecklenburg connections
in
Michigan?  Many German immigrants settled in Michigan.  My
Mecklenburgers
immigrated here in 1882.

 I live southwest of Detroit.  We have access to many sources here.  I
am
the
President of the Downriver Genealogical Society and I'm also on staff at

our
local Family History Center.

With permission from the staff that prepared it, I have copied most of
the
"Mecklenburg: Genealogical Outline and Gazateer" that was prepared by
the
European staff of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  I
intend
to
copy my missing pages during my next trip there in May of this year.  I
only
intended to copy the pages concerning my villages; then I changed my
mind
and
decided to do the entire book, only to run out of time to finish it.
This
is
the same source that was mentioned in this list a week or two ago. If
anyone
would like a lookup in that book I will assist, if I have those pages.

Sherry Huntington

Researching:  Dammann/Danneman, Schro"der, Kru"ger/Kro"ger, Behm,
Burmeisster,
Kuhl, Cruentzfeldt, Langhoffen, Remer, Mensings, Kindt, Kirchmann,
Grothmann,
Bartels, Jennings/Gennings, Gu"sloff, Bauer & Lappe




Re: Mecklenburg Gen. Outline & Gazateer

Date: 1999/02/10 20:49:29
From: SueSue1950 <SueSue1950(a)aol.com>

I'm to new to this to know what you are offering.  But if the name Waack or
Waalk appears in these items please let me know Suesue1950(a)aol.com

Re: Access To Webpage

Date: 1999/02/11 00:11:18
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

Thank you for the info.  I'll try the other access.

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

Re: Mecklenburg Gen. Outline & Gazateer

Date: 1999/02/11 01:07:53
From: Annette Garner <tdgarner(a)hotmail.com>

Hi Sherry,
We are also Michiganders (metro Detroit) who have an ancestor who emigrated
from Mecklenburg. John Zisler, born in Eickelberg in 1841, came with his
wife, Dorothea Wismer, and child, Fritz Wilhelm, to Detroit, MI in 1871.
John's cousin's families also emigrated from Mecklenburg, but at a different
time. They settled in the Saginaw area. We would be interested in any
information you have access to that might be able to help us.

Annette & Virginia Garner


Sherry wrote:

> Hi to All,
> May I be of any assistance to those of you with Mecklenburg connections
> in
> Michigan?  Many German immigrants settled in Michigan.  My
> Mecklenburgers
> immigrated here in 1882.
>
>  I live southwest of Detroit.  We have access to many sources here.  I
> am
> the
> President of the Downriver Genealogical Society and I'm also on staff at
>
> our
> local Family History Center.
>
> With permission from the staff that prepared it, I have copied most of
> the
> "Mecklenburg: Genealogical Outline and Gazateer" that was prepared by
> the
> European staff of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  I
> intend
> to
> copy my missing pages during my next trip there in May of this year.  I
> only
> intended to copy the pages concerning my villages; then I changed my
> mind
> and
> decided to do the entire book, only to run out of time to finish it.
> This
> is
> the same source that was mentioned in this list a week or two ago. If
> anyone
> would like a lookup in that book I will assist, if I have those pages.
>
> Sherry Huntington
>
> Researching:  Dammann/Danneman, Schro"der, Kru"ger/Kro"ger, Behm,
> Burmeisster,
> Kuhl, Cruentzfeldt, Langhoffen, Remer, Mensings, Kindt, Kirchmann,
> Grothmann,
> Bartels, Jennings/Gennings, Gu"sloff, Bauer & Lappe


Marriage Records in Gustrow

Date: 1999/02/11 03:18:51
From: Terry & Jana <jana(a)soonet.ca>

I am researching Wilhelm Rudolf Emil Bockmann born 24.(29.) 04.1846 in
Gustrow.  His wife's name was Wilhemina Henrietta Johanna Salomon born 22.09.1855 in Gustrow.  Together, they had eight children, all born in Kiel from 1875 to 1898.  I assume the couple married in Gustrow between 1866 and 1875.  It was also a family story that Wilhelmina was a third wife to Wilhelm.
I would like some assistance as to where I should proceed to discover a possible marriage date for the couple, and if Wilhelm in fact did have another prior wife.
Thank you.
Jana Tetreault




Sherry Huntington/Mensings/Schroeders

Date: 1999/02/11 03:50:44
From: Alan R. Mensing <amensing(a)mddc.com>

Hi, Sherry Huntington,

Please excuse my sending out to the whole list in hopes of reaching
Sherry Huntington.  I just noticed Sherry's letter on a message to the
list from another person, so I do not have her e-mail address to write
her personally.

I am also searching for info on Mensings & Schroeders.  In addition, I
know a fellow at work with the last name of Huntington with relatives
from around my area.  
Sherry, please contact me - possibly we could have some interesting info
to exchange.

Sincerely,

Lois Mensing
amensing(a)mddc.com

> 
> Sherry wrote:
> 
> > Hi to All,
> > May I be of any assistance to those of you with Mecklenburg connections
> > in
> > Michigan?  Many German immigrants settled in Michigan.  My
> > Mecklenburgers
> > immigrated here in 1882.
> >
> >  I live southwest of Detroit.  We have access to many sources here.  I
> > am
> > the
> > President of the Downriver Genealogical Society and I'm also on staff at
> >
> > our
> > local Family History Center.
> >
> > With permission from the staff that prepared it, I have copied most of
> > the
> > "Mecklenburg: Genealogical Outline and Gazateer" that was prepared by
> > the
> > European staff of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City.  I
> > intend
> > to
> > copy my missing pages during my next trip there in May of this year.  I
> > only
> > intended to copy the pages concerning my villages; then I changed my
> > mind
> > and
> > decided to do the entire book, only to run out of time to finish it.
> > This
> > is
> > the same source that was mentioned in this list a week or two ago. If
> > anyone
> > would like a lookup in that book I will assist, if I have those pages.
> >
> > Sherry Huntington
> >
> > Researching:  Dammann/Danneman, Schro"der, Kru"ger/Kro"ger, Behm,
> > Burmeisster,
> > Kuhl, Cruentzfeldt, Langhoffen, Remer, Mensings, Kindt, Kirchmann,
> > Grothmann,
> > Bartels, Jennings/Gennings, Gu"sloff, Bauer & Lappe

Re: Introduction

Date: 1999/02/12 18:10:43
From: Art & Judy Muller <mullera(a)UWSTOUT.EDU>

Hi Stephen,

I was in Elkader, Iowa earlier this week and had contact with the president
of the Clayton Co. genealogy group there.  They have many records which may
be of interest to you. There indexes have all the Millers, Möllers and
Muellers  cataloged under the Mueller spelling. Her e-mail address is
vossrlty(a)netins.net      I didn't have your information with me so I
couldn't look up anything for you.  Sorry about that.  I have located the
village of Glasin on the map.  My ancestors are from Stolpe, Greibow,
Marnitz, & Mentin, somewhat to the east of Glasin.  As yet I have not
identified any common ancestoral roots, but who knows?  You mentioned
Postville, Iowa.  I have relatives in that area also, but they are on my
mothers side, not in the Möller line.  Good Luck in you searching.

Art Muler
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net>
To: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:26 PM
Subject: Introduction


>Hello to you all:
>
>I am happy to have joined your mailing list.  My name is Stephen Mueller
and
>I live in Aiken, South Carolina USA.  I was born in South Dakota.  I am
>slowly acquiring an understanding of my ancestors' lives near Eldena
>Mecklenburg, and their emigration around 1880 into New York then to Clayton
>County Iowa, until settling at Wall Lake Township in South Dakota. Their
>names are:
>
>Muchow
>Moller
>Schroeder
>Lueth
>
> One question which puzzles me is how I may learn how a specific village
was
>named.  There is small village named Muchow near Eldena which I would love
>to learn about.  Are the messages to this list archived?
>
>
>Last year I had the opportunity to briefly drive through this area.  I was
>enchanted.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Stephen
>
>
>
>


unstalll

Date: 1999/02/13 17:33:46
From: HamOp <HamOp(a)aol.com>

   please     UNSTALL.

1819 Census -- Film #0068910

Date: 1999/02/15 20:30:46
From: Janel56 <Janel56(a)aol.com>

Here are the towns on the 1819 censuses that I have looked at.  Towns marked
with an * are those where my ancestors lived, and for which I have copied at
least some of the census information.

Film #0068910
Bukow--R.A.

Kl. Belitz            1
Behrenshagen     2
Buettelkow          5
Dollglass             6
Gamehl               7
Garvesmuehlen   11
Neu - Gaarz         9
Kl. Gischow        14
Gnemern            15
Goldberg             20
Koerchow            22
Langenstueck      23
Lehnenhof            24
Madsow               26
Mechelsdorf         28
Neukirchen Dorf    30
Hoh. Niendorf        31
Kl. Nienhagen       33
Pustohl                35
Raederank*          37
Sophienholz         42
Steinhagen           39
Vogelsang            43
Wakendorf            45

Bukow--Miekenhagen Rostocker Militaer Distrikt

Altenhagen              1
Klein Belitz            11
Blengo                   31
Klein Boelkow         38
Bolland                  329
Buschmuehlen         44
Clausdorf                160
Damekow                 50
Danneborth               59
Detershagen             64
Dreveskirchen           53
Druschow                 44
Duggenkoppel           72
Eichholz (Meierei Lischow)  181
Friedrichsdorf            73
Garvenstorf                82
Gersdorf                    91
Goldebee                 108
Gorow                      111
Hageboek                  123
Hanshagen                 129
Harmshagen                 94
Hornstorf                     130
Horst                            98
   "                              137
Ilow                             138
Kaegsdorf                    141
Kalsow                        147
Alt Karin                      152
Kartlow                          79
    "                              158
Klausdorf                      160
    "         (Dorf)              166
Lischow                         174
Hohen Luckow                183
Miekenhagen                 197
Neuendorf                      205
Gr. Nienhagen                210
Parchow                        217
Alt Pohrstorf                   227
Poischendorf                  222
Rakow                           235
Radegast                       241
Roggow                         251
Rohlstorf                        266
Rosenhagen                   271
Russow                          255
Gr. Siemen                     278
Kl. Siemen                     283
Spriehusen                     286
Steinbrinck                     289
Steinhausen                   293
Klein Stroemkendorf       299
Tatow                            307
Tesmannsdorf                310                      
Tuetzen                         317
Vorwerk                         264
Westenbruegge              324
Wichmannsdorf              331
Wustrow                        336

I've decided to send the listing for each film separately, otherwise this
mailing would be too long.

Jane

1819 Census--Film #0068897

Date: 1999/02/15 21:21:54
From: Janel56 <Janel56(a)aol.com>

The towns marked with an * are those where my ancestors lived, and for which I
have copied some of the census information.

Film #0068897

Ribnitz--D.A.  (item 1)

NOTE: I don't have page # for this one.

Alberstorf
Altenheide
Althagen
Barnstorf
Bartelshagen
Benkenhagen
Billenhagen
Blankenhagen
Bruenkendorf*
Daendorf
Daenschenburg
Dierhagen
Fresendorf
Gr. Freyenholz
Kl. Freyenholz
Gelbensande
Grahl
Gresenhorst
Harmstorf
Hirschburg*
Jahnkendorf*
Kirchdorf
Klockenhagen & Neuheide
Koesterbeck*
Landkrug
Mandelshagen*
Moenkhagen
Gr. Muritz
Kl. Mueritz
Neuhof*
Niehagen
Oberhof
Pastow*
Petersdorf
Roggentin
Sanitz
Volkshagen
Wilmshagen
Rostock-Wulfshagen


Ribnitz D.A.   (item 2)

Allerstorf*                 1
Bandelsdorfer Krug    8
Carlsruhe                  2
Ehmkendorf              3
Fahrenhaupt*            4
Gnewitz                    6
Godow                      8
Goritz                      10
Gruenenheide           12
Gubkow                   13
Gutendorf*                16
Helmsdorf                 17
Hohenfeld                  34
Horst                        19
Kleinhof                     37
Koelzow                    22
Lieblingshof               25
Luesewitz, Gr.           28
Luesewitz, Kl.            30
Kleinhof                     37
Neuendorf                  31
Neukockendorf           21
Pankelow                  32
Petschow                  33   s.Bd. 2
Sageheide                 34
Steinhorst, Alt           36
Steinhorst, Neu          39   s.Bd. 2
Stormsdorf, Gr.          37
Teschendorf, Gr.         40
Teschendorf, Kl.          41
Teutendorf                  42
Vieren                       46, 51
Wendfeld                   43
Wendorf                    45, 49
Wulfsberg                  50
Zarnewanz                 46, 51


Ribnitz--R.A.  (item 3)

Bandelstorf                 1
Barkvieren                  5
Bohmshof                 99
Dettmannsdorf           11
Dudendorf                  16
Dummerstorf, Hof        37
Dummerstorf, Dorf       39
Dummerstorf, Klein      42, 36
Dummerstorf, Krug       43
Freudenberg*               45
Gnewitz, Meierei u. Muehle   52
Guthendorf, Neu            54
Hinrichsdorf*                 46
Liepen                          57
Kneese*                      109
Neuhof                          57
Niekrenz                       78
Petschow                     81  s.Bd. 1
Poppendorf                   82
Redderstorf                   91
Reppelin                       99
Schulenberg                109
Schwarfs, Kl.               117
Steinhorst, Neu            122  s.Bd. 1
Stubbendorf                  125
Tressentin*                    47
Vietow                          129
Wehnendorf                   137
Wehnendorf, Kl.              143
Wendorf, Neu                  148
Wendorf, Alt                    150

___________
Jane Nelson
JaneL56(a)aol.com

1819 Census--Film #0068919, item 3

Date: 1999/02/15 21:34:36
From: Janel56 <Janel56(a)aol.com>

The towns marked with an * are where my ancestors lives, and for which I have
copied some of the census information.

FHL Film #0068919, item 3

Ribnitz--K.A.

Bockhorst               12
Carlewitz                 14
Ehmkenhagen          17
Kuhlrade*                  1
Poppendorf                8
Rockhorst                13
Zepelin-Wulfshagen   20   

____________
That's all, folks.

Jane Nelson
JaneL56(a)aol.com

LDS Films 1819

Date: 1999/02/16 09:34:05
From: TiedemannG <TiedemannG(a)aol.com>

I should be grateful if SKS could indicate the film numbers for the 1819
census covering the following parishes:
Dassow
Friedrichshagen
Hohenkirchen

The film numbers for the church register of these parishes would also be most
helpful.

Sincerely,
R G Tiedemann
Croydon, England

Re: LDS Films 1819

Date: 1999/02/16 18:36:51
From: husker <husker(a)ivic.net>

Dear Mecklenburg Friend

Here is what I have on your request

Dassow  Film # 069063 Birth Marriages Death 1671 to 1814
Film # 069064 Birth Communion, Marriage, Death 1815 to
1870/77

Friedrichshagen ( Wismar )
Film # 069093 Birth, Marriage, Death 1651 to 1825
Film # 069094 Birth, Communion, Marriage, Death 1826 to
1934

Hohenkirchen Film # 069196 Birth, Communion, Marriage,
and Death 1816 to 1846
Film # 069197 Birth, Marriage, and Death 1706 to 1789
Film # 069198 Birth, Communion, Marriage, and Death
1789 to 1900

These film numbers have been in place for at least 10
years that I know of, and it is rare that they change them.
You might want to double check with a FHC before you
order these numbers. Good luck on your research

Bob Jungbluth
Hemet, CA
husker(a)ivic.net

----------
> From: TiedemannG(a)aol.com
> To: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
> Subject: LDS Films 1819
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 3:33 AM
> 
> I should be grateful if SKS could indicate the film numbers for the 1819
> census covering the following parishes:
> Dassow
> Friedrichshagen
> Hohenkirchen
> 
> The film numbers for the church register of these parishes would also be
most
> helpful.
> 
> Sincerely,
> R G Tiedemann
> Croydon, England

Re: LDS Films 1819

Date: 1999/02/16 20:53:58
From: TiedemannG <TiedemannG(a)aol.com>

Many thanks for this helpful information.
R G Tiedemann
Croydon, England

GRESENS

Date: 1999/02/16 22:50:39
From: Robert Stallman <mrbob(a)gntech.net>

Hi;
    I recently was told my ancestors GRESENS were referred as Mecklenburgers, has anyone seen this name in a census or?? Julius GRESENS came to the USA in 1882, with his wife Wilhemina, also with a brother John and wife Caroline.
Thankyou,
Bob Stallman
Spokane, Washington
mrbob(a)gntech.net
http://members.gntech.net/mrbob/
Genealogy is not a hobby, it's a disease!
Searching the following Surnames
STALLMAN-GRESENS-DELL-PEIFFER-KOESTER-DEMIER-SCHILL-MUND
SOTTERO-BODDINGTON-ABBOTT
 

Re: Neuenkirchen -Parish Puzzle

Date: 1999/02/17 06:14:26
From: WICHMANN <WICHMANN(a)aol.com>

Hi Bill;

Carol Bowens webpage can give some background information about 2 Archieves
located in Schwerin.  

Try CBowen webpage at

     http://pages.prodigy.net/jhbowen/             

Also Dieter Garlings webpage will tell you the years where the Emmigration
papers were burned and he gives samples of what good information perhaps will
be found in the index (which survived the fire).
The relatives I requested searched did not not get the required permit (ie,
not found).
Try the emi sample list at
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8745/emi_list.html

Try Dieter Garling information at 
            http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8745/emi_list.html

I also found the Hamburg port record of Schiffes passenger list very helpfull.
With a map I was able to determine that my GGgrandparents with infant
emmigrated 
with a group that were from a cluster of villages located around the canal
city 
of L"ubz.  After searching several nearby churches from Mfilms I found my
SCHULT
baptism which matched the date on the Wisconsin grave stone. That Mfilm also
had their marriage and infant Baptism.

Bob W
  
In a message dated 12/23/98 1:50:53 PM Central Standard Time, Hans-
Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de writes:

<< I would suggest to ask in the archive in Schwerin, if there is an
emigration
 file, if you know, when they emigrated. You can do it by contacting 
 Mecklenburgica.Steinbruch(a)t-online.de (see our homepage) or contact
 the archive; which needs 6-8 wekks instead of 1 day (my personal experience)
 and the costs are almost the same.
  >>

Re: GRESENS

Date: 1999/02/17 14:45:23
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi, Bob,
the 1819 census of Mecklenburg-Schwerin doesnot contain any
Gresens - I do not see any similar name.

Regards,
Dieter
-------------------------------
> Robert Stallman schrieb:
> 
> Hi;
>     I recently was told my ancestors GRESENS were referred as
> Mecklenburgers, has anyone seen this name in a census or?? Julius
> GRESENS came to the USA in 1882, with his wife Wilhemina, also with a
> brother John and wife Caroline.
> Thankyou,
> Bob Stallman
> Spokane, Washington
> mrbob(a)gntech.net
> http://members.gntech.net/mrbob/
> Genealogy is not a hobby, it's a disease!
> Searching the following Surnames
> STALLMAN-GRESENS-DELL-PEIFFER-KOESTER-DEMIER-SCHILL-MUND
> SOTTERO-BODDINGTON-ABBOTT
>


Re: GRESENS

Date: 1999/02/17 17:15:07
From: Robert Stallman <mrbob(a)gntech.net>

Thankyou Dieter for your help,


Subject: Re: GRESENS


>Hi, Bob,
>the 1819 census of Mecklenburg-Schwerin doesnot contain any
>Gresens - I do not see any similar name.
Bob Stallman
Spokane, Washington
mrbob(a)gntech.net
http://members.gntech.net/mrbob/
Genealogy is not a hobby, it's a disease! 
Searching the following Surnames
STALLMAN-GRESENS-DELL-PEIFFER-KOESTER-DEMIER-SCHILL-MUND
SOTTERO-BODDINGTON-ABBOTT
 


Test

Date: 1999/02/17 22:04:35
From: Fran & Pamela Bennett <pbennett(a)connix.com>

Sorry,

I am doing a test to see if Belinda Engstrom see's the email.  She is having
trouble getting on to the list.
Take Care!
Pam Bennett
Researching: Armbruster,Ziegler,Tatsch
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/1214/


Suche (searching) Sterly

Date: 1999/02/19 23:40:54
From: K.-H.Schroeder <lubeca(a)nikoma.de>

Hallo Leute,
ich suche das Sterbedatum des:
STERLY, Claus 
* 11.11.1719 in Selmsdorf
+           1757 in Potsdam als Soldat des Grossherzogs von Mecklenburg.
In Selmsdorf war er Hufenstelle (Bauernstelle).
Vielen Dank.

Kalle Schroeder

Hi all,
I am searching the date of death:
STERLY, Claus
born: 11.11.1719 Selmsdorf
death:  1757 Potsdam,  soldier of the patronat of Mecklenburg
Thanks
Kalle

Member of "Verein fuer Mecklenburgische Familien- und Personengeschichte"
http://welcome.to/MFP



Mecklenburg FAQ

Date: 1999/02/20 12:07:49
From: Dieter Garling <garling(a)dfn.de>

I provided an improved version of my Mecklenburg FAQ:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8745/ms_faq.html

or the European mirror:
http://www.snafu.de/~garling/ms_faq.html

Mail me, if you have no www access, I will mail you this FAQ.

Pls have also a look at the MFP Homepage: 
http://welcome.to/MFP or http://www.math.uni-rostock.de/~mfp
The MFP is the Mecklenburg Genealogical Association.

Any comments to the FAQ? Corrections, improvements, ...?
Pls send via email to garling(a)bigfoot.com.

Kind regards
Dieter

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    my mail account against this domain for at least 3 month,
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Re: Mecklenburg FAQ

Date: 1999/02/20 15:36:04
From: Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net>

I found many interesting answers in your FAQ.  Would you have a suggestion
how I may learn how a village got its name?  I am interested to learn when
the village Muchow was named and why it was given this name.

Thank you,

Stephen Mueller
USA

(Muchow,Schroder,Luth,Moller)


Rehbein

Date: 1999/02/20 17:44:57
From: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>

My g-gr-grandmother's maiden name is REHBEIN.  Is it likely then that
her father's surname is REHBE?  They are from Ratzeburg.


Re: Rehbein

Date: 1999/02/20 18:47:01
From: K.-H.Schroeder <lubeca(a)nikoma.de>

Hi Bob,
I have REHBEIN:
REHBEIN, Franz Joachim Heinrich
born: 14.07.1834 Gross Grönau
Father: REHBEIN, Johann Heinrich, born in Gross Grönau near Ratzeburg.
Mather: DAEHN, Anna Catharina Elisabeth, born 03.02.1815, Lenschow
illegitimate born.

Kind regards
Kalle Schroeder
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>
An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 17:45
Betreff: Rehbein


>My g-gr-grandmother's maiden name is REHBEIN.  Is it likely then that
>her father's surname is REHBE?  They are from Ratzeburg.


Re: Rehbein

Date: 1999/02/20 19:53:00
From: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>

Hi Kalle,

My g-grandmother is Caroline REHBEIN, born 9 Apr 1836 in Ratzeburg area.
She married Johann KRUEGER.  Could this be a sister to your Franz?   I
have no further information on her ancestry.  I suggest we investigate
further.  Do you have any church records on their family.  I have ordered
the church records of Ratzeburg from the LDS, but probably will not have
access to them for another 3 weeks or so.

My original query gave Caroline as g-g-grandmother.  That was in error.
Should be g-grandmother.

I will be away for a few days.  Look foward to your response when I
return.

Sincerely,

Bob

"K.-H.Schroeder" wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> I have REHBEIN:
> REHBEIN, Franz Joachim Heinrich
> born: 14.07.1834 Gross Grönau
> Father: REHBEIN, Johann Heinrich, born in Gross Grönau near Ratzeburg.
> Mather: DAEHN, Anna Catharina Elisabeth, born 03.02.1815, Lenschow
> illegitimate born.
>
> Kind regards
> Kalle Schroeder
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>
> An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Datum: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 17:45
> Betreff: Rehbein
>
> >My g-gr-grandmother's maiden name is REHBEIN.  Is it likely then that
> >her father's surname is REHBE?  They are from Ratzeburg.


RE: Church records

Date: 1999/02/20 21:31:04
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

I keep reading, most recently in Dieter Garling's Mecklenburg FAQ webpage,
that all the Mecklenburg parish records have been filmed and are available at
LDS.  

I have been researching in the Schloen parish records @ LDS and have only
found the baptisms to go through 1859.  Am I then to assume that there are no
baptisms more current than 1859, since "everything has been filmed by LDS"?

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

Re: Latur

Date: 1999/02/21 18:20:52
From: Kashathree <Kashathree(a)aol.com>

Can you find a Latur in the Mecklenburg-Schwerin (Altstadt) area around
1810-1830?  I believe he was a Lutheran minister who fled (as a child) with
his father from France during the Reign of Terror in 18th Century.  I
understand a Latur was listed on 1819 census, but there were no details of his
family or lineage.  His father was murdered in an Inn and his papers stolen
while he was enroute back to France to reclaim his land after end of French
Revolution.   The Latur mentioned on the census may have had a daughter named
Josephine.

Barb

Re: Mecklenburg FAQ

Date: 1999/02/21 18:27:13
From: Dieter Garling <garling(a)dfn.de>

>From: "Stephen Mueller" <steph(a)scescape.net>
>I found many interesting answers in your FAQ.  Would you have a suggestion
>how I may learn how a village got its name?  I am interested to learn when
>the village Muchow was named and why it was given this name.
>Thank you,
>Stephen Mueller

19300 Muchow is located about 7 miles East of Ludwigslust. It will be
difficult to find the origins of such small villages (less than 500
inhabitants). I would try the following:
1. Ask in this newsgroup :-)
2. Write the local authorities, there should be a "Gemeindeverwaltung"
3. Just for fun: make an online search at the regional newspaper:
   www.svz.de or mail them for help
4. In a magazine printed by a regional newspaper some explanations are
   given (in an irregular order)
   ... I had a look ... and found ...
Muchow, Kreis Ludwigslust hiess 1377 Muchowe. Die altpolab. Form lautete
Muchowo, sie ist mit dem poln. ON Muchowo verwandt. Die Ableitung ist von 
einem Wort erfolgt, dem slaw. W"orter mit der Bedeutung "Fliege" entsprechen,
z.B. poln. und russ.: mucha. Ein Personenname kommt hier weniger in Frage.
(the sence is: in 1377 the village name was Muchowe. This is related to
the polish town name Muchowo. The origin of Muchowo may be the polish/
russion word for fly. A persons name as the origin for the village name
is not probably.)

Kind regards
Dieter

Member of the 'Verein fuer mecklenburgische Familien- und Personengeschichte'
http://www.garling.de/                      mailto:garling(a)bigfoot.com 


RE: Church records

Date: 1999/02/21 18:27:16
From: Dieter Garling <garling(a)dfn.de>

>From: JuJuBean11(a)aol.com

> I keep reading, most recently in Dieter Garling's Mecklenburg FAQ webpage,
> that all the Mecklenburg parish records have been filmed and are available at
> LDS.
> I have been researching in the Schloen parish records @ LDS and have only
> found the baptisms to go through 1859.  Am I then to assume that there are no
> baptisms more current than 1859, since "everything has been filmed by LDS"?
> Julie Ploehn-Vigna

OK, OK. It is not true, that all church book were filmed. It not seldom 
occured, that some church books get lost, were burnt, ...

In a Endler/Albrecht preprint I found for Schloen:
Birth: 1661-1781 (gap 1700/13), 1782-1787, 1787-1797, 1798-1814,
         1815-1831, 1831-1846, 1847-1859, 1860-1875
Confirmation: 1713-1781 (gap 1780/81), 1782-1830 (gap 1789/91), 1831-1846,
         1847-1865, 1866-1877 (gap 1878/99), 1900-1910,
Marriage: 1661-1781 (gap 1700/13), 1782-1787, 1787-1816, 1816-1846,
         1847-1865, 1862-1876
Death: 1661-1781 (gap 1700/13), 1782-1787, 1787-1812, 1812-1846, 1847-1857,
       1857-1875
These church book should be available in Ratzeburg or in Schwerin (probably
were in Ratzeburg and now are in Schwerin - someone knows it better than me?).
Because these books exist, I see no reason, why they are not microfilmed by
the Mormons.

Dieter

Member of the 'Verein fuer mecklenburgische Familien- und Personengeschichte'
http://www.garling.de/                      mailto:garling(a)bigfoot.com 


TEST.

Date: 1999/02/21 21:29:33
From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda(a)interworx.com.au>



Re: TEST.

Date: 1999/02/21 22:15:29
From: Kashathree <Kashathree(a)aol.com>

?????????There was no message under this subject.

Re: Church records

Date: 1999/02/22 18:26:18
From: Mary C Bowen <mcbowen(a)juno.com>

I show the church records for Schloen that have been filmed by the LDS as
follows:

Film # 069604 contains birth and baptism 1661-1830, Confirmation
1782-1830,  Marriage and Death 1661-1830

Film # 069605 contains birth and baptism, marriage and deaths from 1787
to 1910

Hope this helps!
Carol Bowen 



On Sun, 21 Feb 99 18:26:32 +0100 Dieter Garling <garling(a)dfn.de> writes:
>>From: JuJuBean11(a)aol.com
>
>> I keep reading, most recently in Dieter Garling's Mecklenburg FAQ 
>webpage,
>> that all the Mecklenburg parish records have been filmed and are 
>available at
>> LDS.
>> I have been researching in the Schloen parish records @ LDS and have 
>only
>> found the baptisms to go through 1859.  Am I then to assume that 
>there are no
>> baptisms more current than 1859, since "everything has been filmed 
>by LDS"?
>> Julie Ploehn-Vigna

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MY FAMILY NAMES

Date: 1999/02/22 21:29:50
From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda(a)interworx.com.au>

I am new to this list,
Martin.FICK born 1745,Penkun.marr. Maria.KOSKE,8 Apr.1776 at
Schmolln.Martin's father was Gottfried.Maria's father was Christian Koske,
who died.c.1776.he was a shepard and Martin was a day labourer at
Schmolln.Martin and Maria had a son,Gottfried born 1777 at Wollin, he
married Maria.SCHWARZ,22 nOV.1807,Gottfried died 7 Sept 1824 at
Wollin.Maria's parents were Christoph.SCHWARZ and Christina WITTE.Gottfried
and Maria had 3 sons and 2 daughters,one being Marie.Christina.FICK born 27
Sept. 1809 at Wollin.she married Gottlieb.Christian.NAESE/NESE.he was born
1810 to Christian.Nese. father and son were blacksmiths in
Wollin.Maria.FIECK./FICK  was a servant to FLUGGE family. she had a daughter
Justine.Wilhelmina Fieck/Fick to a August.FLUGGE,born 15 March.1833 at
Wollin.Maria.Christina.FIECK.FICK married 2 June 1833.Justine taking he's
last name, there were 2 other childrenfor Maria and
Gottlieb.=Frederick.Wilhelm.Naese born 30 Nov.1834 at Schmarsow.Prenslau.
and a sister Caroline. Wilhelmina Naese born 18 Oct 1836 at
Schmarsow.Prenslau.=Frederick Wilhwlm Naese/Nese/Nasea. migrated to
Australia on the Cesar.Godeffroy in 1861 he married Annie.Elizabeth
SIMSHAUSER. on the 22 Aug. 1867 in Australia.They had 9 children.
Annie.Elizabeth SIMSHAUSER was born 19 Sept 1843 at
Frankenberg.Ridnau.Hesse.
                       from Belinda.Australia.


Surname SASS

Date: 1999/02/22 23:27:40
From: John P. Hatch, Ph.D. <hatch(a)uthscsa.edu>

I am seeking information on a family by the surname SASS.  I have the
following information on three sisters:

Frederika  born 11 Nov 1854
Wilhelmina "Minnie"  born 11 May 1858 in Mecklenburg, Germany (family Bible
record)
Sophia L.  born 10 Jun 1862

Other children not identified for certain.  This family immigrated to the
U.S. in 1871.  


John P. Hatch
San Antonio, TX 
hatch(a)uthscsa.edu

Re: Church records

Date: 1999/02/23 00:52:22
From: JuJuBean11 <JuJuBean11(a)aol.com>

In a message dated 99-02-22 12:30:01 EST, you write:

<< I show the church records for Schloen that have been filmed by the LDS as
 follows:
 
 Film # 069604 contains birth and baptism 1661-1830, Confirmation
 1782-1830,  Marriage and Death 1661-1830
 
 Film # 069605 contains birth and baptism, marriage and deaths from 1787
 to 1910 >>

Hi Mary!

Unfortunately, I have found on several occasions that LDS did not label the
films very accurately in their catalog.  To indicate that film #69605 had
baptisms, marriages and deaths from 1787 to 1910 was incorrect.  The baptisms
only went from 1787 - 1859, the marriages 1787 - 1861, deaths 1787 - 1857 and
confirmatiaons 1831-1865 & 1900-1910.  They tend to sometimes lump everything
into a general category which can be very misleading to the patrons ordering
the film.  I was very disappointed when I ordered that film to find baptisms
only went to 1859 when I thought I was going to find them to 1910!

Julie Ploehn-Vigna

 

Re: MY FAMILY NAMES

Date: 1999/02/23 03:18:48
From: Peter Poehls <p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca>

Belinda--

You may want to check out the Web Site of Tammy Giancola . She has
a page of FICK ancestors at;
<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4758/>
I have also got some Fick connections and I will see if I can be of help.
Peter


At 06:26 AM 23/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>I am new to this list,
>Martin.FICK born 1745,Penkun.marr. Maria.KOSKE,8 Apr.1776 at
>Schmolln.Martin's father was Gottfried.Maria's father was Christian Koske,
>who died.c.1776.he was a shepard and Martin was a day labourer at
>Schmolln.Martin and Maria had a son,Gottfried born 1777 at Wollin, he
>married Maria.SCHWARZ,22 nOV.1807,Gottfried died 7 Sept 1824 at
>Wollin.Maria's parents were Christoph.SCHWARZ and Christina WITTE.Gottfried
>and Maria had 3 sons and 2 daughters,one being Marie.Christina.FICK born 27
>Sept. 1809 at Wollin.she married Gottlieb.Christian.NAESE/NESE.he was born
>1810 to Christian.Nese. father and son were blacksmiths in
>Wollin.Maria.FIECK./FICK  was a servant to FLUGGE family. she had a daughter
>Justine.Wilhelmina Fieck/Fick to a August.FLUGGE,born 15 March.1833 at
>Wollin.Maria.Christina.FIECK.FICK married 2 June 1833.Justine taking he's
>last name, there were 2 other childrenfor Maria and
>Gottlieb.=Frederick.Wilhelm.Naese born 30 Nov.1834 at Schmarsow.Prenslau.
>and a sister Caroline. Wilhelmina Naese born 18 Oct 1836 at
>Schmarsow.Prenslau.=Frederick Wilhwlm Naese/Nese/Nasea. migrated to
>Australia on the Cesar.Godeffroy in 1861 he married Annie.Elizabeth
>SIMSHAUSER. on the 22 Aug. 1867 in Australia.They had 9 children.
>Annie.Elizabeth SIMSHAUSER was born 19 Sept 1843 at
>Frankenberg.Ridnau.Hesse.
>                       from Belinda.Australia.
> 
Peter Poehls
p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca
Researching;  Poehls, Schloetterlein, Reiter, Frankenstein, Bauer,
                     Gressman, Gillmeister, Kaehler, Bentin, Kierben,
                     Schmitt,  Karrig, Vohs, Proesh, Sommer, Coberg,
                     Wackers, Kargen, Holm, Juerss, Rohde, Schwormstedt,
                     Grieffels, Lawr.

Re: MY FAMILY NAMES

Date: 1999/02/23 07:17:43
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi,
all the places you are interested in do not belong to Mecklenburg or
Pommern, they belong to Brandenburg / Prussia.
Occasionally, I have one trace to that area and have a few Flu"gge's
among them, but not yours. Flu"gge was a 'dynasty' of arrendators.

Sincerely,
Dieter

Belinda Engstrom schrieb:
> 
> I am new to this list,
> Martin.FICK born 1745,Penkun.marr. Maria.KOSKE,8 Apr.1776 at
> Schmolln.Martin's father was Gottfried.Maria's father was Christian Koske,
> who died.c.1776.he was a shepard and Martin was a day labourer at
> Schmolln.Martin and Maria had a son,Gottfried born 1777 at Wollin, he
> married Maria.SCHWARZ,22 nOV.1807,Gottfried died 7 Sept 1824 at
> Wollin.Maria's parents were Christoph.SCHWARZ and Christina WITTE.Gottfried
> and Maria had 3 sons and 2 daughters,one being Marie.Christina.FICK born 27
> Sept. 1809 at Wollin.she married Gottlieb.Christian.NAESE/NESE.he was born
> 1810 to Christian.Nese. father and son were blacksmiths in
> Wollin.Maria.FIECK./FICK  was a servant to FLUGGE family. she had a daughter
> Justine.Wilhelmina Fieck/Fick to a August.FLUGGE,born 15 March.1833 at
> Wollin.Maria.Christina.FIECK.FICK married 2 June 1833.Justine taking he's
> last name, there were 2 other childrenfor Maria and
> Gottlieb.=Frederick.Wilhelm.Naese born 30 Nov.1834 at Schmarsow.Prenslau.
> and a sister Caroline. Wilhelmina Naese born 18 Oct 1836 at
> Schmarsow.Prenslau.=Frederick Wilhwlm Naese/Nese/Nasea. migrated to
> Australia on the Cesar.Godeffroy in 1861 he married Annie.Elizabeth
> SIMSHAUSER. on the 22 Aug. 1867 in Australia.They had 9 children.
> Annie.Elizabeth SIMSHAUSER was born 19 Sept 1843 at
> Frankenberg.Ridnau.Hesse.
>                        from Belinda.Australia.


Re: Surname SASS

Date: 1999/02/23 08:03:10
From: marshall <marshallb001(a)hawaii.rr.com>


John P. Hatch, Ph.D. wrote:

> I am seeking information on a family by the surname SASS.  I have the
> following information on three sisters:
>

This may be a very long shot--but I know there was a Sass family living in
Brookfield, Illinois, from the 1940's on.  You might trya census--or the Cook
County list.  Happy hunting !  b. marshall


SASSE/SASS surname

Date: 1999/02/23 12:58:52
From: Gary Mertl <gmertl(a)worldnet.att.net>

My ancestor Sophie Luise Henriette SASS was born March 22, 1854 in Blengow,
church parish of Alten Gaarz, Germany.  She was single and 20 when she came
to America, in the company of a Fritz SASS age 31 farmer, Sophie SASS, his
wife age 32 and their 3 daughters Mina age 8, Carolina age 4 and  Anna, 11
months. They came on the ship Westphalia and arrived in New York on
November 13, 1874.

Any connections?  

Peg

Location of Town Gulitz

Date: 1999/02/23 17:00:25
From: John P. Hatch, Ph.D. <hatch(a)uthscsa.edu>

Hi,

I am searching for the hometown of my Mecklenburg ancestors.  I have
identified a possible family on the passenger list of a ship departing
Hamburg.  The hometown appears to be Gulitz.  Can anyone identify this
town?  I would like to determine where church records for this family might
be found.
 
John P. Hatch
San Antonio, TX 
hatch(a)uthscsa.edu

Re: Location of Town Gulitz

Date: 1999/02/23 18:53:20
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi,

there is a village by the name Gu"litz, parish Gorschendorf,
4 km north of Malchin.

Sincerely,
Dieter

------

John P. Hatch, Ph.D. schrieb:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am searching for the hometown of my Mecklenburg ancestors.  I have
> identified a possible family on the passenger list of a ship departing
> Hamburg.  The hometown appears to be Gulitz.  Can anyone identify this
> town?  I would like to determine where church records for this family might
> be found.
> 
> John P. Hatch
> San Antonio, TX
> hatch(a)uthscsa.edu


Re: Rehbein

Date: 1999/02/23 21:13:42
From: K.-H.Schroeder <lubeca(a)nikoma.de>

Hi Bob,
sorry, but I do not have any further data conc. Rehbein.
Kind regards
Kalle.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>
An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 19:54
Betreff: Re: Rehbein


>Hi Kalle,
>
>My g-grandmother is Caroline REHBEIN, born 9 Apr 1836 in Ratzeburg area.
>She married Johann KRUEGER.  Could this be a sister to your Franz?   I
>have no further information on her ancestry.  I suggest we investigate
>further.  Do you have any church records on their family.  I have ordered
>the church records of Ratzeburg from the LDS, but probably will not have
>access to them for another 3 weeks or so.
>
>My original query gave Caroline as g-g-grandmother.  That was in error.
>Should be g-grandmother.
>
>I will be away for a few days.  Look foward to your response when I
>return.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Bob
>
>"K.-H.Schroeder" wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>> I have REHBEIN:
>> REHBEIN, Franz Joachim Heinrich
>> born: 14.07.1834 Gross Grönau
>> Father: REHBEIN, Johann Heinrich, born in Gross Grönau near Ratzeburg.
>> Mather: DAEHN, Anna Catharina Elisabeth, born 03.02.1815, Lenschow
>> illegitimate born.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Kalle Schroeder
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Bob Morris <rdmorris(a)pacbell.net>
>> An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Datum: Samstag, 20. Februar 1999 17:45
>> Betreff: Rehbein
>>
>> >My g-gr-grandmother's maiden name is REHBEIN.  Is it likely then that
>> >her father's surname is REHBE?  They are from Ratzeburg.


Re: MY FAMILY NAMES

Date: 1999/02/23 21:51:56
From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda(a)interworx.com.au>

HI Dieter,
             I am rather disappointed to hear that I have the wrong list,it
took a lot to finally get on hear, I did have a good look at my maps and it
looke dlike I was in the right area, can you tell me if there is a site for
the area that I am after.
                             from Belinda,GIN GIN.QLD.Australia.
-----Original Message-----
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>
To: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: MY FAMILY NAMES


>Hi,
>all the places you are interested in do not belong to Mecklenburg or
>Pommern, they belong to Brandenburg / Prussia.
>Occasionally, I have one trace to that area and have a few Flu"gge's
>among them, but not yours. Flu"gge was a 'dynasty' of arrendators.
>
>Sincerely,
>Dieter
>
>Belinda Engstrom schrieb:
>>
>> I am new to this list,
>> Martin.FICK born 1745,Penkun.marr. Maria.KOSKE,8 Apr.1776 at
>> Schmolln.Martin's father was Gottfried.Maria's father was Christian
Koske,
>> who died.c.1776.he was a shepard and Martin was a day labourer at
>> Schmolln.Martin and Maria had a son,Gottfried born 1777 at Wollin, he
>> married Maria.SCHWARZ,22 nOV.1807,Gottfried died 7 Sept 1824 at
>> Wollin.Maria's parents were Christoph.SCHWARZ and Christina
WITTE.Gottfried
>> and Maria had 3 sons and 2 daughters,one being Marie.Christina.FICK born
27
>> Sept. 1809 at Wollin.she married Gottlieb.Christian.NAESE/NESE.he was
born
>> 1810 to Christian.Nese. father and son were blacksmiths in
>> Wollin.Maria.FIECK./FICK  was a servant to FLUGGE family. she had a
daughter
>> Justine.Wilhelmina Fieck/Fick to a August.FLUGGE,born 15 March.1833 at
>> Wollin.Maria.Christina.FIECK.FICK married 2 June 1833.Justine taking he's
>> last name, there were 2 other childrenfor Maria and
>> Gottlieb.=Frederick.Wilhelm.Naese born 30 Nov.1834 at Schmarsow.Prenslau.
>> and a sister Caroline. Wilhelmina Naese born 18 Oct 1836 at
>> Schmarsow.Prenslau.=Frederick Wilhwlm Naese/Nese/Nasea. migrated to
>> Australia on the Cesar.Godeffroy in 1861 he married Annie.Elizabeth
>> SIMSHAUSER. on the 22 Aug. 1867 in Australia.They had 9 children.
>> Annie.Elizabeth SIMSHAUSER was born 19 Sept 1843 at
>> Frankenberg.Ridnau.Hesse.
>>                        from Belinda.Australia.
>
>


(no subject)

Date: 1999/02/24 02:44:27
From: PatsyP926 <PatsyP926(a)aol.com>

Looking for information on 
Maria Godeman 	b. 7/1/836	Satow, Mecklenburg, Germany
John Bluemer		b. 1/13/1823	Also Mecklenburg Germany
parents of John are Christopher Bluemer and Mary Cazllez
father  of Maria is Charles Godeman
all came to Holyoke Mass sometime around 1875.  Any info will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks 

Patsy Bluemer

Village "LEONER. WERDER"

Date: 1999/02/24 04:15:59
From: GKobernus <GKobernus(a)aol.com>

I have researched a family that emigrated in 1869. The Hamburg passenger list
handwriting is very preceise and indicates the family came from "LEONER.
WERDER" I guessed that this was really Leviner Werder a village near Levin
where I have already done research.  

However, I recently noticed a village WERDER near Malchow. I wonder if the
word "LEONER." is actually abbreviation for a German word and the village is
actually Werder near Malchow ?

George in San Antonio

Friedland

Date: 1999/02/24 05:25:09
From: Chris <flopper(a)oneimage.com>

Does anyone have any information on the town of Friedland in
Mecklenburg-Strelitz in the early to mid 1800's?  Any idea of what the
population was?  My GG grandmother was born there in 1825.  I would like to
know about how large a town it was.  There are several Schumachers and I am
wondering if they may  related.
Thanks in advance.
Chris in Colorado
flopper(a)oneimage.com



Re: Village "LEONER. WERDER"

Date: 1999/02/24 10:22:49
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi, 
I have no explanation for "LEONER."
If there is no trouble for you to scan the sheet of paper, please send
the scanned version. Sometimes others do decipher in a different way.
Sincerely,
Dieter

--------

GKobernus(a)aol.com schrieb:
> 
> I have researched a family that emigrated in 1869. The Hamburg passenger list
> handwriting is very preceise and indicates the family came from "LEONER.
> WERDER" I guessed that this was really Leviner Werder a village near Levin
> where I have already done research.
> 
> However, I recently noticed a village WERDER near Malchow. I wonder if the
> word "LEONER." is actually abbreviation for a German word and the village is
> actually Werder near Malchow ?
> 
> George in San Antonio



Re: Friedland

Date: 1999/02/24 10:34:44
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi, Chris:
 
> Does anyone have any information on the town of Friedland in
> Mecklenburg-Strelitz in the early to mid 1800's?  Any idea of what the
> population was?  My GG grandmother was born there in 1825.  I would like to
> know about how large a town it was.  There are several Schumachers and I am
> wondering if they may  related.
> Thanks in advance.
> Chris in Colorado
> flopper(a)oneimage.com

Friedland was founded in 1244.
In 1829 there were 4443 inhabitants.

In the 2 parishes of Friedland I found the following marriages with
male Schumacher's in 1800-1825:

St. Marien: no
St. Nicolai: 
22. 7.1807  Master Joh. Daniel Martin Schumacher, miller
27.11.1810  Master Joh. Daniel Friedrich Schumacher, miller
 5.12.1815  Master Joh. Daniel Schumacher, miller
18. 5.1824  Carl Christian Schumacher (age 27), miller

All millers, i.e. they could be related.

Have you read the microfilms at the LDS ?

Sincerely,
Dieter


Re: MY FAMILY NAMES

Date: 1999/02/24 13:24:15
From: Belinda Engstrom <belinda(a)interworx.com.au>

Thank you,Peter, from Belinda.
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Poehls <p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca>
To: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: MY FAMILY NAMES


>
>Belinda--
>
>You may want to check out the Web Site of Tammy Giancola . She has
>a page of FICK ancestors at;
><http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/4758/>
>I have also got some Fick connections and I will see if I can be of help.
>Peter
>
>
>At 06:26 AM 23/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>>I am new to this list,
>>Martin.FICK born 1745,Penkun.marr. Maria.KOSKE,8 Apr.1776 at
>>Schmolln.Martin's father was Gottfried.Maria's father was Christian Koske,
>>who died.c.1776.he was a shepard and Martin was a day labourer at
>>Schmolln.Martin and Maria had a son,Gottfried born 1777 at Wollin, he
>>married Maria.SCHWARZ,22 nOV.1807,Gottfried died 7 Sept 1824 at
>>Wollin.Maria's parents were Christoph.SCHWARZ and Christina
WITTE.Gottfried
>>and Maria had 3 sons and 2 daughters,one being Marie.Christina.FICK born
27
>>Sept. 1809 at Wollin.she married Gottlieb.Christian.NAESE/NESE.he was born
>>1810 to Christian.Nese. father and son were blacksmiths in
>>Wollin.Maria.FIECK./FICK  was a servant to FLUGGE family. she had a
daughter
>>Justine.Wilhelmina Fieck/Fick to a August.FLUGGE,born 15 March.1833 at
>>Wollin.Maria.Christina.FIECK.FICK married 2 June 1833.Justine taking he's
>>last name, there were 2 other childrenfor Maria and
>>Gottlieb.=Frederick.Wilhelm.Naese born 30 Nov.1834 at Schmarsow.Prenslau.
>>and a sister Caroline. Wilhelmina Naese born 18 Oct 1836 at
>>Schmarsow.Prenslau.=Frederick Wilhwlm Naese/Nese/Nasea. migrated to
>>Australia on the Cesar.Godeffroy in 1861 he married Annie.Elizabeth
>>SIMSHAUSER. on the 22 Aug. 1867 in Australia.They had 9 children.
>>Annie.Elizabeth SIMSHAUSER was born 19 Sept 1843 at
>>Frankenberg.Ridnau.Hesse.
>>                       from Belinda.Australia.
>>
>Peter Poehls
>p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca
>Researching;  Poehls, Schloetterlein, Reiter, Frankenstein, Bauer,
>                     Gressman, Gillmeister, Kaehler, Bentin, Kierben,
>                     Schmitt,  Karrig, Vohs, Proesh, Sommer, Coberg,
>                     Wackers, Kargen, Holm, Juerss, Rohde, Schwormstedt,
>                     Grieffels, Lawr.
>


Village of Gartow

Date: 1999/02/24 17:24:30
From: Gregory Wideman <PJWideman(a)worldnet.att.net>

Does anyone have any information on the village of Gartow.  My Weidemann
family came from this village in 1856.  They came New York aboard the
Gerhardt, then to Wisconsin.  I would like to find out any information about
this that I can.  So if you can help at all, please email me at
PJWideman(a)worldnet.att.net
Thank you,
Patricia


Re: Friedland

Date: 1999/02/24 19:47:42
From: Peter Starsy <Erichsohn.MAIL(a)t-online.de>

Hi Chris,

Friedland is one of the oldest towns at the north-east of MST. In 1829 there
lived 4.433 peolpe (1817: 3.900). Most parts of Friedland was destroied at
the end of WWII. To the 1940th years a lot of buildings at Friedland show
impressiones like early 19th century. At the last years there were edited
some german language books with pictures of "old" Friedland. You should have
a look at this. For more informations about the live at Friedland ask for
"Staatskalender" from the grand-dukedom MST; it was yearly statistical books
with a lot in informations about all towns, professions of the inhabitants
and so on. You also can ask for informations to the Heimatmuseum Friedland,
Muehlenstr. 1, D-17098 Friedland. But I guess it will be difficult to find a
lot of English language Informations.

At the early 19th cent. at each town of MEC worked a lot of "Schuhmacher".
They had to produce for towns inhabitants and often also for peolpes from
the villages arround.

Greetings from Burg Stargard / MEC
Peter

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Chris <flopper(a)oneimage.com>
An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Februar 1999 05:29
Betreff: Friedland


>Does anyone have any information on the town of Friedland in
>Mecklenburg-Strelitz in the early to mid 1800's?  Any idea of what the
>population was?  My GG grandmother was born there in 1825.  I would like to
>know about how large a town it was.  There are several Schumachers and I am
>wondering if they may  related.
>Thanks in advance.
>Chris in Colorado
>flopper(a)oneimage.com
>
>


Re: Friedland

Date: 1999/02/25 00:10:36
From: GKobernus <GKobernus(a)aol.com>

In a message dated 2/24/99 1:36:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, Hans-
Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de writes:

<< Does anyone have any information on the town of Friedland in
 > Mecklenburg-Strelitz in the early to mid 1800's?  Any idea of what the
 > population was?  My GG grandmother was born there in 1825.  I would like to
 > know about how large a town it was. >>

Suggest you order the 1819 Mecklenburg fische that I believe gives the
population of all villages in the census. This would be a good thing for your
local FCH to have in file if they don't already have it. It is full of
information that you'll probably want to reference more than once.

# 6001784........3 fische
#6001785.........3 fische
#6001786.........3 fische
#6001787.........3 fische
#6001788.........5 fische

George in San Antonio

Glassworker Wolbrandt in Groß Poserin

Date: 1999/02/25 00:35:12
From: Henrik Wolffbrandt <wolffbrandt(a)vip.cybercity.dk>

I'm looking for a glassworker-family Wolbrandt/Wulbrand supposed to
stay/live in Gemeinde Groß Poserin in abt. 1700-. (Some of) the family
moved to Norway, maybe Nöstetangen glassverk, Sandsvær glassverk, Jevne
Glas Fabrique, Hadeland glassverk and Hurdal glassverk. Hans Henrich
Wohlbrandt is in Sandsvær 1761. Christian Wolbrandt is in Hurdal 1779
(married to Dorte Mathea Filion).

Who can help me?

Thank you,
Henrik Wolffbrandt, Denmark


Muchow

Date: 1999/02/25 04:51:45
From: Stephen Mueller <steph(a)scescape.net>

I am most grateful for you taking the time to look for this information.  I
am lead to think that this area must have been swampy and thus had numerous
flys.  Is this the right way to think?  The name Muchow does not appear to
be common.  So I am thinking that all people with this name originally came
from this village.

Another person shared with me their findings from "Hans Bahlow: Deutsches
Namenlexikon".  She tells me that Bahlow says: Muchow (Muchau) probably
derives from a name of a place.


Another kind person told me that he found in a book about slavic
locality-names in Mecklenburg for Muchow. Muchow is from the old-slavic
"muha" = fly and means "fly-locality" or from a slavic personal name "muk"
and means "village of muk".

I drove to the village last year to take a look.  Regretably I am not
converstaional with  German.  This was thrilling to me.  I took a picture of
the sign leading into the village if anyone has an interest to take a look.

Http://steph.home.duesouth.net



>>From: "Stephen Mueller" <steph(a)scescape.net>
>>I found many interesting answers in your FAQ.  Would you have a suggestion
>>how I may learn how a village got its name?  I am interested to learn when
>>the village Muchow was named and why it was given this name.
>>Thank you,
>>Stephen Mueller
>
>19300 Muchow is located about 7 miles East of Ludwigslust. It will be
>difficult to find the origins of such small villages (less than 500
>inhabitants). I would try the following:
>1. Ask in this newsgroup :-)
>2. Write the local authorities, there should be a "Gemeindeverwaltung"
>3. Just for fun: make an online search at the regional newspaper:
>   www.svz.de or mail them for help
>4. In a magazine printed by a regional newspaper some explanations are
>   given (in an irregular order)
>   ... I had a look ... and found ...
>Muchow, Kreis Ludwigslust hiess 1377 Muchowe. Die altpolab. Form lautete
>Muchowo, sie ist mit dem poln. ON Muchowo verwandt. Die Ableitung ist von
>einem Wort erfolgt, dem slaw. W"orter mit der Bedeutung "Fliege"
entsprechen,
>z.B. poln. und russ.: mucha. Ein Personenname kommt hier weniger in Frage.
>(the sence is: in 1377 the village name was Muchowe. This is related to
>the polish town name Muchowo. The origin of Muchowo may be the polish/
>russion word for fly. A persons name as the origin for the village name
>is not probably.)
>
>Kind regards
>Dieter
>
>Member of the 'Verein fuer mecklenburgische Familien- und
Personengeschichte'
>http://www.garling.de/                      mailto:garling(a)bigfoot.com
>


Re: Friedland

Date: 1999/02/25 06:22:17
From: Peter Starsy <Erichsohn.MAIL(a)t-online.de>

>Suggest you order the 1819 Mecklenburg fische that I believe gives the
>population of all villages in the census.

The 1819th census only was at Mecklenburg-Schwerin, not at
Mecklenburg-Strelitz! Friedland is MST!!!

Peter

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Datum: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 1999 00:14
Betreff: Re: Friedland


Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert

Date: 1999/02/27 20:09:12
From: Hans Albert Rentsch <Hans-Albert.Rentsch(a)t-online.de>

Liebe Forscher-Freunde,

ich suche die Lebensdaten meiner UrUrgrosseltern (Geburt, Heirat, Tod):

	KELLERMANN, Friederich
	PRESTIN,    Sophia Christina 

Im KB der evangelischen Kirche in Ludwigslust/Mecklenburg ist die Taufe
von sieben Kindern dokumentiert.

       01  KELLERMANN, Friderika Henriette Soph.    *  22.08.1815
|      02  KELLERMANN, Friedrich Wilhelm            *  24.02.1818
|      03  KELLERMANN, Otto Detlov Karl             *  15.01.1822
|      04  KELLERMANN, Carl Ludwig Friederich       *  09.05.1825
|      05  KELLERMANN, Heinrich Johannes Anton      *  16.05.1827
|      06  KELLERMANN, Ludwig Albert                *  27.08.1829
|      07  KELLERMANN, Sophie(iadg)Auguste Helene   *  11.07.1832 


Friederich Kellermann war 1812  Diener bei Lt. v. Buch in Ludwigslust/MV
                          1818  Bedienster bei Kammerjunker Buch   "
                          1847  Holzaufseher in Ludwigslust
                          1853  Holzaufseher in Kleinow

Paten beim 1. Kind: Fr. Friderica von Buch aus Zapkendorf
		    Jgfr. Friderica Henriette Zarnekow Wirtschafterin
		    zu Zapkendorf

Paten beim 6. Kind: Ludwig v. Buch, Berlin
		    H. Leutenant Albert v. Buch, Grabow

Die Haeufung von Paten aus der Familie v. Buch aus Zapkendorf laesst die
Schlussfolgerung zu, dass Friederich Kellermann oder Sophia Christina Prestin
eine Beziehung zu v. Buchs gehabt haben muessen, zumindest aber aus Zapkendorf 
bzw. aus der Umgebung von Zapkendorf stammen. Es ist daher zu vermuten, dass
auch die Eltern dort ansaessig waren.
Zapkendorf gehoert zum Kirchspiel Rechnitz und liegt 11 Km NO von Guestrow.     
An dieser Stelle meinen Dank an Dieter Gronau und Mitstreiter fuer die fabelhafte
Ortsdatei. 
Ich bitte Forscherkollegen, die im Besitz der entsprechenden Trauregister
von Schubert sind, die Namen Kellermann und Prestin auf der maennlichen Seite zu 
checken. Vielleicht besteht ja die Chance, diesen toten Punkt zu ueberwinden. 
Ich selber habe die Schubert'schen Kasetten XIV + XVI.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen,

Hans Albert aus Wetzlar 


1819 Mecklenburg Census

Date: 1999/02/28 04:09:29
From: RMASON4 <RMASON4(a)aol.com>

Attn:  Prof. Dr. Gronau:

If you have the opportunity, could you check the subject census for the
surname PIEBLOW.

If this surname does appear, could you also check for the surnames ROHDE and
RHODE in the same village or town.

I appreciate your kind assistance.

Best regards,

Russ Mason
    


Re: Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert

Date: 1999/02/28 08:20:21
From: Ingeburg Wittholz <wittholz-(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Hans Albert;
ich habe keine Heirat Friedrich Kellermann - Sophie Ch. Prestin in
Recknitz/
Zapkendorf gefunden, aber es gibt viele Namensträger in den Orten.

Die Trauregister gehen ja nur bis 1800 und nach den Geburten der Kinder
war die Trauung wohl eher später.
Ich warte auch sehr auf die Fortsetzung der Schubert-Schriften!

Viele Grüße Ingeburg
--------Inzwischen bin ich auch in der AMF-Forscherdatenbank
vertreten---------

>ich suche die Lebensdaten meiner UrUrgrosseltern (Geburt, Heirat, Tod):
>KELLERMANN, Friederich
>PRESTIN,    Sophia Christina
>Im KB der evangelischen Kirche in Ludwigslust/Mecklenburg ist die Taufe
>von sieben Kindern dokumentiert.
       01  KELLERMANN, Friderika Henriette Soph.    *  22.08.1815
|      02  KELLERMANN, Friedrich Wilhelm            *  24.02.1818
|      03  KELLERMANN, Otto Detlov Karl             *  15.01.1822
|      04  KELLERMANN, Carl Ludwig Friederich       *  09.05.1825
|      05  KELLERMANN, Heinrich Johannes Anton      *  16.05.1827
|      06  KELLERMANN, Ludwig Albert                *  27.08.1829
|      07  KELLERMANN, Sophie(iadg)Auguste Helene   *  11.07.1832
>Friederich Kellermann war 1812  Diener bei Lt. v. Buch in
Ludwigslust/MV
                          1818  Bedienster bei Kammerjunker Buch   "
                          1847  Holzaufseher in Ludwigslust
                          1853  Holzaufseher in Kleinow
>Paten beim 1. Kind: Fr. Friderica von Buch aus Zapkendorf
    Jgfr. Friderica Henriette Zarnekow Wirtschafterin
    zu Zapkendorf
>Paten beim 6. Kind: Ludwig v. Buch, Berlin
    H. Leutenant Albert v. Buch, Grabow
>Die Haeufung von Paten aus der Familie v. Buch aus Zapkendorf laesst
die
>Schlussfolgerung zu, dass Friederich Kellermann oder Sophia Christina
Prestin
>eine Beziehung zu v. Buchs gehabt haben muessen, zumindest aber aus
Zapkendorf
>bzw. aus der Umgebung von Zapkendorf stammen. Es ist daher zu vermuten,
dass
>auch die Eltern dort ansaessig waren.
>Zapkendorf gehoert zum Kirchspiel Rechnitz und liegt 11 Km NO von
Guestrow.
>An dieser Stelle meinen Dank an Dieter Gronau und Mitstreiter fuer die
fabelhafte
>Ortsdatei.
>Ich bitte Forscherkollegen, die im Besitz der entsprechenden
Trauregister
>von Schubert sind, die Namen Kellermann und Prestin auf der maennlichen
Seite zu
>checken. Vielleicht besteht ja die Chance, diesen toten Punkt zu
ueberwinden.
>Ich selber habe die Schubert'schen Kasetten XIV + XVI.
>Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>Hans Albert aus Wetzlar



Re: Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert

Date: 1999/02/28 08:50:18
From: Peter Starsy <Erichsohn.MAIL(a)t-online.de>

>Ich warte auch sehr auf die Fortsetzung der Schubert-Schriften!

Hallo Ingeburg,

inzwischen liegen die ersten beiden Hefte der Fortsetzungsreihe vor.
Schubert begann in MST (Stargarder Land):

KOPULATIONSREGISTER  AUS  MECKLENBURGISCHEN  KIRCHENBUECHERN.
Von 1801 bis 1825.

    Teil M, 1. Lief.: Neubrandenburg - Friedland. (ISBN 3-89364-324-9)
    Teil M, 2. Lief.: Woldegk - Stargard. (ISBN 3-89364-327-3)

Beste Grüße aus Stargard
Peter Starsy

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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An: mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net <mecklenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Datum: Sonntag, 28. Februar 1999 08:22
Betreff: Re: Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert




Re: 1819 Mecklenburg Census

Date: 1999/02/28 10:03:48
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Hi,

> If you have the opportunity, could you check the subject census for the
> surname PIEBLOW.

The 1819 census of Mecklenburg does not contain the name PIEBLOW.

But there are several places with PIEPLOW.

> If this surname does appear, could you also check for the surnames ROHDE and
> RHODE in the same village or town.

Here are the places with Pieplow and Rhode, Rohde or Rode. Fortunately,
these places are relatively concentrated !

Malchin
Ribnitz
Rostock
Ko"rkwitz - parish Ribnitz
Klockenhagen - Ribnitz
Mandelshagen - Blankenhagen
Völkshagen, Gresenhorst - Blankenhagen
Bru"nkendorf, Rostocker-Wulfshagen, Bartelshagen - Kuhlrade
Schulenberg, Guthendorf, Alt-Steinhorst - Marlow
Sanitz

In case, your ancestors are from the parish, it seems to be worth to
contact Dr. Alm, see our homepage welcome.to/MFP. He is ajn expert for
that parish !

Sincerely,
H.-D.Gronau


Re: Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert

Date: 1999/02/28 15:37:12
From: Ingeburg Wittholz <wittholz-(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Peter Starsy,
vielen Dank für den Literaturhinweis,

und für Hans Albert  habe ich noch einen Nachtrag, der vielleicht
die Verwandtschaft der Patin  Zarnekow  zu Prestien erklärt:

Herr Adam Christian ZARNEKOW, Pens.Drölitz
oo Recknitz 03.11.1789 Fr. Georgina Justina Otte
(Wwe. H. Ernst PRESTIEN, Pens.Drölitz)
V: H. Chrphfer Gottfried Otte, gew. Pens.Lunestorff

MfG Ingeburg


Venzmer-family

Date: 1999/02/28 16:43:12
From: Prof. Dr. H.-D. Gronau <Hans-Dietrich.Gronau(a)t-online.de>

Looking for infos on the Venzmer-family in Ribnitz (at least one was a
senator).

Thanks
Dieter


Re: Suche in Trauregistern von Schubert

Date: 1999/02/28 20:51:11
From: Hans Albert Rentsch <Hans-Albert.Rentsch(a)t-online.de>

Ingeburg Wittholz schrieb:

> Hallo Hans Albert;
> ich habe keine Heirat Friedrich Kellermann - Sophie Ch. Prestin in
> Recknitz/
> Zapkendorf gefunden, aber es gibt viele Namenstraeger in den Orten.
>
> Die Trauregister gehen ja nur bis 1800 und nach den Geburten der Kinder
> war die Trauung wohl eher spaeter.
> Ich warte auch sehr auf die Fortsetzung der Schubert-Schriften!
>
>und fuer Hans Albert  habe ich noch einen Nachtrag, der vielleicht
>die Verwandtschaft der Patin  Zarnekow  zu Prestien erklaert:
>
>Herr Adam Christian ZARNEKOW, Pens.Droelitz
>oo Recknitz 03.11.1789 Fr. Georgina Justina Otte
>(Wwe. H. Ernst PRESTIEN, Pens.Droelitz)
>V: H. Chrphfer Gottfried Otte, gew. Pens.Lunestorff
>


> >ich suche die Lebensdaten meiner UrUrgrosseltern (Geburt, Heirat, Tod):
> >KELLERMANN, Friederich
> >PRESTIN,    Sophia Christina
> >Im KB der evangelischen Kirche in Ludwigslust/Mecklenburg ist die Taufe
> >von sieben Kindern dokumentiert.
>        01  KELLERMANN, Friderika Henriette Soph.    *  22.08.1815
> |      02  KELLERMANN, Friedrich Wilhelm            *  24.02.1818
> |      03  KELLERMANN, Otto Detlov Karl             *  15.01.1822
> |      04  KELLERMANN, Carl Ludwig Friederich       *  09.05.1825
> |      05  KELLERMANN, Heinrich Johannes Anton      *  16.05.1827
> |      06  KELLERMANN, Ludwig Albert                *  27.08.1829
> |      07  KELLERMANN, Sophie(iadg)Auguste Helene   *  11.07.1832
> >Friederich Kellermann war 1812  Diener bei Lt. v. Buch in
> Ludwigslust/MV
>                           1818  Bedienster bei Kammerjunker Buch   "
>                           1847  Holzaufseher in Ludwigslust
>                           1853  Holzaufseher in Kleinow
> >Paten beim 1. Kind: Fr. Friderica von Buch aus Zapkendorf
>     Jgfr. Friderica Henriette Zarnekow Wirtschafterin
>     zu Zapkendorf
> >Paten beim 6. Kind: Ludwig v. Buch, Berlin
>     H. Leutenant Albert v. Buch, Grabow
> >Die Haeufung von Paten aus der Familie v. Buch aus Zapkendorf laesst
> die
> >Schlussfolgerung zu, dass Friederich Kellermann oder Sophia Christina
> Prestin
> >eine Beziehung zu v. Buchs gehabt haben muessen, zumindest aber aus
> Zapkendorf
> >bzw. aus der Umgebung von Zapkendorf stammen. Es ist daher zu vermuten,
> dass
> >auch die Eltern dort ansaessig waren.
> >Zapkendorf gehoert zum Kirchspiel Rechnitz und liegt 11 Km NO von
> Guestrow.
> >An dieser Stelle meinen Dank an Dieter Gronau und Mitstreiter fuer die
> fabelhafte
> >Ortsdatei.
> >Ich bitte Forscherkollegen, die im Besitz der entsprechenden
> Trauregister
> >von Schubert sind, die Namen Kellermann und Prestin auf der maennlichen
> Seite zu
> >checken. Vielleicht besteht ja die Chance, diesen toten Punkt zu
> ueberwinden.
> >Ich selber habe die Schubert'schen Kasetten XIV + XVI.
> >Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
> >Hans Albert aus Wetzlar
>
>

Liebe Ingeburg,

da bin ich missverstanden worden. Da es nach 1800 noch keine Trauregister
gibt, wollte ich den Suchansatz bei den Eltern von Friederich Kellermann
und Sophia Christina Prestin vornehmen. Wenn man davon ausgeht, dass Friederich
1814 geheiratet hat und er 26 Jahre alt war, dann waere er 1788 geboren.
Seine Eltern haetten dann vor 1788 geheiratet. Unterstellt man ein Heirats-
alter von Sophia mit 20 Jahren, haetten die Eltern vor 1796 geheiratet.
Die verfilmten Kirchenbuecher koennte ich mir bei den Mormonen ansehen. Es
waere hilfreich, wenn ich die Heiratszeiten und die dazugehoerigen Parochien
der Kellermanns und Prestin haette. Darf ich dich darum herzlichst bitten? 
Fuer den oben erwaehnten Nachtrag sage ich Dir besten Dank.


Mit freundlichen Gruessen,

Hans Albert aus Wetzlar