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[HN] Deike Cook county ILL

Date: 2006/04/28 23:27:13
From: denny deike <dbdeike(a)msn.com>

I have Deikes'   that settled in Elk Grove / Schaumburg Cook cty, Ill in 1850 s. my G-Grandfather b. 1832 in Germany no info on town, but 1 sister, and 1 brother are listed as b. in Sonnenbrostel, Hannover. 1 b. 1828-- 1 b. 1832 . their parents are listed as Heinrich Deike and Sophia Kahle. both b. abt 1800 in Germany ( no other info ) the Heinrich & Sophia info was supposed to have come from a 25 volume set " Germans to America " ?? I have never seen these volumes.  Denny Deike      dbdeike(a)msn.com<mailto:dbdeike(a)msn.com>

[HN] Aurich Civil Registration

Date: 2006/04/29 08:58:20
From: Joseph E Wolfe <joeedwolfe(a)juno.com>

I am trying to locate a marriage record for Frederick SIEBOLDS AND his
wife Ida Georgs

which  I understand took place in Aurich around 1850....I have checked
all the church

records available and did not find anything....It was most likely a civil
marriage.  Our

civil registration is only for 1811 to 1812 and again from 1863 to
1875......Frederick and

family emigrated to U.S.A. IN 1868 and in 1870 census lists himself and
family as from

Hanover.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help.

Joe Wolfe

[HN] On the tail of Johann Heinrich Decker

Date: 2006/04/30 16:53:50
From: California Auto & Truck Specialties <catsauto(a)earthlink.net>

This is a copy of a previous email that I had sent looking for help. I will continue to lift my sticky finger to the heavens until something sticks to it that will help me end my search, or until a bolt of lightning strikes it on some rainy, cold, gray, Northern European type morning that will also end my search. We have mornings like that you know here on the coast of California. It reminds me of Northern Germany and it makes me feel good. 

> I have come to a brick wall so I will attempt to do what many professional genealogy people do not approve of.
> I will stick my finger into the wind and hope that something may stick to it.
> Johann Heinrich Decker was born somewhere in Königrich Hannover in 1811 or so.
> I find him living in Indiana in 1847 in Santa Claus(Harris Settlement) where he is found in the 1850 census. Also the 1860, and 70 census.
> His wife was named Katherine Maria Engel (perhaps Grubein)  Decker and they had three children who were all born in Ind.
> I believe that they lived in Cincinnati but am not positive about that.
> I will now check my finger every day and see if a miracle can happen.
> Mfg
> Jim Decker aus sonnigen Kalifornien

[HN] Salzgitter - Elizabeth

Date: 2006/05/01 00:26:20
From: Rena McCarthy <rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk>

Hi Elizabeth,
You've discovered my source! I prefer to see things for myself and other listers have given me some good information of how to obtain the book.
Thanks for caring and sharing tho'.

Rena in England on a wet Sunday:-)
=

<<Hello Rena,
The LDS "Family History Library Catalog" lists the following book as held
in their Salt Lake City library, maybe you can e-mail them and ask them to
look up the index for the names that you are looking for. For details see below

Dieck, Alfred, Die Wandermusikanten von Salzgitter : Bd. 1
Wandering musicians of Salzgitter, Hannover, Germany. Indexed.
LDS ref: 943.59/S8 U2w v. 1 - FHL INTL Book

Elizabeth <aliens(a)bigpond.net.au>
Greetings from Australia>>


[HN] Suche nach ELFRING, Anna

Date: 2006/05/01 08:31:18
From: Gerd Lauing <Lauing.Gerd(a)t-online.de>

Liebe Listies,
ich suche nach einer Anna A. ELFRING, geb. im Juni 1847, verh. 1866 in Elmhurst, IL, USA mit John D. LAUING.
Danke für jeden Hinweis.
Mit freundlichen Maigrüßen in die Runde,
Gerd (Lauing)


Re: [HN] OSB Uslar

Date: 2006/05/01 19:27:59
From: Ursula Schlotz <Ursula.Schlotz(a)web.de>

Sehr geehrter Herr Kunze,

Herzlichen Dank für Ihre Auskunft, über die ich mich sehr freute. Sollte ich mit irgendwelchen Vorfahren auf Uslar stoßen - was bislang leider noch nicht der Fall ist - werde ich mir selbstverständlich das OSB Uslar zulegen. Leichter und einfacher kann sich Forschung ansonsten nicht gestalten.

Mit frdl. Grüßen

Ursula Schlotz-Winkel


KlausKunzeUslar(a)aol.com schrieb:

In einer eMail vom 30.04.2006 21:33:21 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt Ursula.Schlotz(a)web.de:
Ursula Schlotz-Winkel

Sehr geehrte Ursula Schlotz-Winkel
ich beantworte keine derartigen Anfrage, sonst könnte ich keine Bücher mehr schreiben. Trotzdem: In der Datei steht kein Nachweis.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Klaus Kunze
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[HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803

Date: 2006/05/02 00:16:35
From: Lex_Bennink <lexbennink(a)wanadoo.nl>

Gutentag,

Für die Ahnentafel meiner Kinder suche ich Jan Berends Hutter. Er war etwa 1803 geburtig in Nesse Ambt Berem ins Königsreich Hannover. Diese Daten fand ich auf seiner Heirats Akte. Er heiratete in die Niederlande am 29sten Oktober 1830 in Blokzijl mit Aaltje Wilgenkamp. Er starb am 66-järigen Alter auf 12, Märx 1868 in Almelo (Niederlande).

Gerne möchte ich sein Geburtstag and die Namen seiner Eltern wissen. Kann jemand mir helfen?

Entschuldigung für mein Fehler auf Deutsch, Ich hoffe daß Sie mir trotzdem verstehen.

Mit freundlichen Grüße,

Lex Bennink

Re: [HN] Suche nach ELFRING, Anna

Date: 2006/05/02 05:50:36
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo,

Found following data:


1870 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385b

LAUING, DEDRICK, Age: 30, Male, Born: HANO
LAUING, ANNA, Age: 33?, Female, Born: Illinois
LAUING, WM, Age 3,Male, Born: Illinois
LAUING, RICHARD, Age 2, Male, Born: Illinois

Can send .pdf file
------------------------------------
Addison Township Cemetery Index
Addison Township Combined Index Sources
Compiled by Ken Madsen**

LAUING Johann Diedrich   1804 1865 ***
LAUING Margaretha Anna M/DIERKS 1833 1925
LAUING Heinrich   1835 1862
LAUING child   1862 1862
LAUING Baby boy   1864 1864
LAUING Rosa Dor. Cath.Caroli   1857 1857

***Johann Diedrich birth data doesn't seem to agree with 1870 census. Perhaps a parent? Perhaps birth data in error.

* Does not indicate source of data..

Only that compiled from following Sources:
Immanuel Luth. Elmhurst, Cemetery & Funeral List
Immanuel Luth. Elmhurst, 1917 Membership
Old Methodist Cemetery List (Bensenville)
Pierce Farm Burial Ground List
Resthaven Cemetery & Methodist Funeral List
St. John's Membership Lists 1899, 1924, 1949
St. John's Cemetery & Funeral List
St. Paul Luth. Cemetery & Funeral List
Zion Luth. Souls Register for 1888
Zion Luth. Cemetery & Funeral List

Illinois Marriage Index:

LAUING, DIEDRICH
ELFING, ANNA
03/12/1866
B/  13
4285 DU PAGE

--------------------------
Possible Anna's relations?

WEGENER, CHRISTIAN
ELFRING, MARIA
09/24/1869   B/  25
4762 DU PAGE

BOKELMANN, J H WILLIAM
ELFRING, MARY FRIEDERIKA
08/20/1880   1/  28
370 DU PAGE

BIERMAN, LOUIS
ELFRING, MINA
11/17/1881   1/  44
578 DU PAGE

ELFRING, BARNEY
HABERSTICH, LAURA
10/16/1890   1/ 165
2255 DU PAGE

Believe family named Habersrich on
1870 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385a**


ELFRING, EDWARD W
BUCHHOLZ, MARY
04/07/1893   1/ 202
2728 DU PAGE

ELFRING, FRANK E
LANGE, ALICE L
11/24/1905 002/0209 00005909
DU PAGE

ELFRING, FRED
LANDWEHR, MARIA
11/11/1884   1/  82
1074 DU PAGE

ELFRING, JOHN BERNHARD
KOBLERMANN, KATHERINE M A
06/13/1869   B/  25
4725 DU PAGE



Liebe Listies,
ich suche nach einer Anna A. ELFRING, geb. im Juni 1847, verh. 1866 in Elmhurst, IL, USA mit John D. LAUING.
Danke für jeden Hinweis.
Mit freundlichen Maigrüßen in die Runde,
Gerd (Lauing)

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[HN] BIELSTEIN "Wandermusikanten von Salzgitter" Buch

Date: 2006/05/02 09:02:06
From: Ruth Ohlhoff <Ruth.Ohlhoff(a)t-online.de>

Hi Rena,

in the book is on sides 54/55 the name Wilhelmine GÜNTHER, Andreas BIELSTEIN
and Christian GÜNTHER.

There must be Kämmerei Rechnungen - accounts - and the number of the houses.

Wilhemine GÜNTHER		Street Töpferreihe 82   tax in 1845  0 Taler 13 Groschen
4 Pfennig
Andreas BIELSTEIN		Street Töpferreihe 96	tax in 1845  0 Taler  8 Groschen 4
Pfennig
Christian GÜNTHER		Street Töpferreihe 148  tax in 1845  1 Taler  2 Groschen
8 Pfennig

Some of the musicians are also railway worker near Minden and Porta
Westfalica in 1844 - 1847.

Ruth


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces+ruth.ohlhoff=t-online.de(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:hannover-l-bounces+ruth.ohlhoff=t-online.de(a)genealogy.net]Im
Auftrag von Rena McCarthy
Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. April 2006 17:44
An: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [HN] "Wandermusikanten von Salzgitter" Buch


Hallo Hans Peter,
Thank you, I am much obliged for the information.  I have visited the
website and see there are 2 books for sale.  Thank you also for informing me
of the book in the Hamburg genealogy archive.  The cost will be the same but
reading the book will be more interesting, yes?

Sincerely,
Rena in England.
--
Hallo Rena McCarthy,
ich weiß nicht, ob sich die Anschaffung des Buches aus dem Antiquariat
lohnt, aber es werden zwei Exemplare unter www.zvab.de, Stichwortsuche
"Wandermusikanten" angeboten, 35,- und 38,-Euro. Ein Exemplar steht auch in
der Bibliothek der Genealogischen Gesellschaft Hamburg.
Gruß    Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

I do not know whether the acquisition of the book from the second-hand
bookshop is worthwhile itself, but two copies are offered under www.zvab.de,
reference search "moving musicians",  35, - and 38, euro.  A copy is located
also in the library of the Genealogi society Hamburg.

"Rena McCarthy" <rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk> schrieb:
> Hallo,
>
> Hat jemand dieses Buch?  Er ist nicht in einer englischen Bibliothek
> Ich suche Familien GUNTHER und BIELSTEIN
> Title:  "Die Wandermusikanten von Salzgitter" : ein Beitrag zur
> Wirtschafts-
> und Kulturgeschichte des nördlichen Harzvorlandes im 19. Jahrhundert
> Stmnt.Resp.von Alfred Dieck
> ENGLISH
> Does anyone have this book?   It is not in an English Library.
> I look for GUNTHER and BIELSTEIN families
>
> Book Title: "Wandering Musicians of Salzgitter, Hannover, Germany.
> Indexed.
> Author: Dieck, Alfred (Main Author).
>
> Thank you
> Rena in England
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[HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/02 09:45:48
From: pharmaxx <pharmaxx(a)charter.net>

Good Morning
Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
Max

Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/02 09:53:46
From: Ruth Ohlhoff <Ruth.Ohlhoff(a)t-online.de>

Good morning, Max

have a nice time in Germany. And have - if possible - a look to other nice
places like Braunschweig, Wolfenbüttel and Goslar.

Ruth

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]Im Auftrag von
pharmaxx(a)charter.net
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 09:46
An: Hannover List
Betreff: [HN] German Friends


Good Morning
Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently
in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica
will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity
to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday
and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
Max
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Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/02 10:07:56
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Max,

Lucky you. I am certain you and yours are having a wonderful time.

May the road rise to meet you
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sunshine warm upon your face
The rains fall soft upon your fields
And, always
May God hold you in the palm of His hand



Good Morning
Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
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Re: [HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803

Date: 2006/05/02 13:26:24
From: Harald Kemm <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de>


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lex_Bennink" <lexbennink(a)wanadoo.nl>


Gutentag,

Für die Ahnentafel meiner Kinder suche ich Jan Berends Hutter. Er war etwa
1803 geburtig in Nesse Ambt Berem ins Königsreich Hannover. Diese Daten fand
ich auf seiner Heirats Akte. Er heiratete in die Niederlande am 29sten
Oktober 1830 in Blokzijl mit Aaltje Wilgenkamp. Er starb am 66-järigen Alter
auf 12, Märx 1868 in Almelo (Niederlande).

Gerne möchte ich sein Geburtstag and die Namen seiner Eltern wissen. Kann
jemand mir helfen?

Entschuldigung für mein Fehler auf Deutsch, Ich hoffe daß Sie mir trotzdem
verstehen.

Mit freundlichen Grüße,

Lex Bennink



Hallo Lex Bennink,

die Ortschaft Nesse liegt zwischen Norden und Dornum in Ostfriesland. Die PLZ für Nesse 26553, die Telefonnr. für die Kirche 04933-914053

Im Orts- u. Gemeindelexikon von 1901 wird Nesse folgendermaßen beschrieben:

Nesse, Dorf Preuß.(Hann.), Kreis Norden, Amtsgericht Berum, Eisenbahn Hage, 949 Einwohner, Post u. ev. Kirche.

Viel Erfolg bei der weiteren Suche und einen schönen Tag noch aus Barsinghausen

Harald (Kemm)
harald.kemm(a)freenet.de



Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/02 13:57:49
From: Bob Doerr <bdoerr(a)msm.umr.edu>

I found Hildeshiem to be a fine town. I'm glad for the second rebuilding.

Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks



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To: "Hannover List" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:45 AM
Subject: [HN] German Friends


Good Morning
Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently
in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica
will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity
to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday
and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
Max
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[HN] BIELSTEIN "Wandermusikanten von Salzgitter" Buch

Date: 2006/05/02 14:39:18
From: Rena McCarthy <rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk>

Superb sleuthing Ruth!!

Thank you so much :-))
I am surprised they paid tax! I think I need to learn under what conditions they were liable for tax. Was it a tax on earnings or a tax for living in the town.

I already have an address of Andreas Bielstein and his wife Wilhelmine Melosine Gunther (b 13/7/1813 Salzgitter, d 30/1/1867 Hull) from the Salzgitter 1852 Court Records, then they next appear in England 1862 running a music school. Living with them in England are several young German apprentices and also a musician Henry Ehlers (22) and THAT's the man I'm also trying to trace. How does he link up with my gt.gt. grandmother Sophie Christine Hedwig Ehlers and musician (known in England as) Conrad Ehlers, son-in- law of Andreas Bielstein.

Much obliged.
Rena in England
=

From: Ruth.Ohlhoff(a)t-online.de (Ruth Ohlhoff)
Hi Rena,

in the book is on sides 54/55 the name Wilhelmine GÜNTHER, Andreas BIELSTEIN
and Christian GÜNTHER.

There must be Kämmerei Rechnungen - accounts - and the number of the houses.

Wilhemine GÜNTHER Street Töpferreihe 82   tax in 1845  0 Taler 13 Groschen
4 Pfennig
Andreas BIELSTEIN Street Töpferreihe 96 tax in 1845  0 Taler  8 Groschen 4
Pfennig
Christian GÜNTHER Street Töpferreihe 148  tax in 1845  1 Taler  2 Groschen
8 Pfennig

Some of the musicians are also railway worker near Minden and Porta
Westfalica in 1844 - 1847.

Ruth


Re: [HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803

Date: 2006/05/02 17:23:12
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hallo Lex,

St. Marien-Kirchengemeinde Nesse

Gemeinde mit rd. 1300 Gemeindegliedern, Tuffsteinkirchenbau mit Sandsteintaufe aus dem jahr 1250/70 - bildet mit dem Glockenturm aus dem Alten Steinhaus zu Nesse ein einzigartiges Ensemble alter ostfriesischer Baukultur

Kirchpfad 1
26553 Nesse
Telefon: 04933 - 914053
Telefax: 04933 - 914054
E-Mail: m.hurtig(a)ewetel.net  (Pastor)

Nachstehend zwei URL über genealogischen Quellen zu Nesse bei Neßmersiel an der Nordsee:

http://www.genealogie-forum.de/ostfrld/kirchen/suchen/ortsliste/ortsliste-n.htm

http://www.genealogie-forum.de/ostfrld/kirchen/nesse.htm

Viel Glück,
Werner Honkomp


> Gutentag,

> Für die Ahnentafel meiner Kinder suche ich Jan Berends Hutter. Er war etwa
> 1803 geburtig in Nesse Ambt Berem ins Königsreich Hannover. Diese Daten
> fand
> ich auf seiner Heirats Akte. Er heiratete in die Niederlande am 29sten
> Oktober 1830 in Blokzijl mit Aaltje Wilgenkamp. Er starb am 66-järigen
> Alter
> auf 12, Märx 1868 in Almelo (Niederlande).

> Gerne möchte ich sein Geburtstag and die Namen seiner Eltern wissen. Kann
> jemand mir helfen?

> Entschuldigung für mein Fehler auf Deutsch, Ich hoffe daß Sie mir trotzdem
> verstehen.

> Mit freundlichen Grüße,

> Lex Bennink

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Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/02 21:30:30
From: J b <johnbrene(a)hotmail.com>

Bring me back a sausage.

Jb

PS. Get Erika all the sausages she wants -- and a little champagne too. :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: <pharmaxx(a)charter.net>
To: "Hannover List" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:45 AM
Subject: [HN] German Friends

Good Morning
Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently
in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica
will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity
to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday
and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
Max

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[HN] LÜLWES in Celle

Date: 2006/05/02 21:50:45
From: Almut Völker <ahvoelker(a)t-online.de>

Liebe Listenleser,
ich suche die Geburt von Theodor Friedrich Leopold LÜLWES, Kaufmann in
Celle, geb. ca. 1812, gestorben 23.11.1892 in Celle. Er heiratet am 24.9.
1837 in Celle Sophie Dorothee Caroline SCHAPER, geb. ca. 1815, gestorben vor
1892.
Einen schönen Mai wünscht
Almut Völker



[HN] LAUW in Hannigsen

Date: 2006/05/02 21:55:35
From: Almut Völker <ahvoelker(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Listenleser,
ich suche die Geburt und Eheschließung von Otto LAUW, königl. Förster in
Hannigsen, geb. ca. 1872, er heiratet Elisabeth Henriette Caroline Ida LA
ROSE, geb. ca 1874
Danke für Hinweise
Almut Völker



[HN] FW: Talk

Date: 2006/05/04 04:35:17
From: Jane Swan <jeswansong(a)earthlink.net>


Jane Swan
jeswansong(a)earthlink.net
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jane Swan 
To: hannover-l-request
Sent: 5/3/2006 10:19:13 PM 
Subject: Talk


Hi everybody:  Before I go off-list for the summer (not for a couple of weeks yet),  I should like to announce that I have been invited to be one of the speakers at the Pal-Am (Palatines to America) national conference in Richmond, VA, 23-25 June.  I shall be speaking about my books, The Saxon Chronicle, naturally.  If you live or know anyone living in the Richmond-Washington area, please spread the word.  I feel very honored and shall have books there to sell and autograph.    Best wishes,   Jane


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Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/04 07:20:53
From: Jim <jimcats(a)earthlink.net>

Be sure to visit the museum and old town. Lots of history there.
Jim

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From: "J b" <johnbrene(a)hotmail.com>
To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [HN] German Friends


Bring me back a sausage.

Jb

PS. Get Erika all the sausages she wants -- and a little champagne too. :-)

>----- Original Message -----
>From: <pharmaxx(a)charter.net>
>To: "Hannover List" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:45 AM
>Subject: [HN] German Friends
>
>Good Morning
>Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently
>in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes.
>Erica
>will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity
>to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here
>yesterday
>and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.
>Max

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Re: [HN] Family v. Schwichel(d/t)

Date: 2006/05/04 07:40:07
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo,

Schwichelde 25+ in index.



Title: Urkundenbuch des altfreien Geschlechtes der Barone, Grafen und Herren von Alten : mit 2 Siegeltafeln : aus gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen als Handschrift gedruckt.

City of Publication:  Weimar

Publisher:  Druck der Hof-Buchdr.

Date:  1901

--------
Example..
(Page 11)
Der Vogt Heinrich von Schwichelde in Hannover stiftet einen Vergeleich zwishchen dem Moritzstift in Hildesheim....++++

(An. 1226 Juni 22)

-reg. Hildesheim, Beverin'sche Bibliotek. Copiar des Moritzstifts zu Hild. Nr. 514 Nr. 69-

Barbie-Lew




Wer hat sich mit der Geschichte der Region Hildesheim, den dortigen
Adelsfamilien in der Zeit um 1500 beschäftigt ?

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[HN] Unterstützung Poznan

Date: 2006/05/04 15:38:14
From: Ursula Wojciechowski <ruhwo(a)gmx.de>


Hallo Harald Dirolf,
ich hoffe, dass ich Dich so erreiche. Im Anschluß die gewünschte Übersetzung

> Archiwum Panstwowe w Poznaniu informuje,
( STAATLICHES ARCHIV IN POSEN INFORMIERT)

> ze kwote 23 Euro prosimy wplacic na rachunek (DEN BETRAG VON 23 € ERBITTEN

WIR EINZUZAHLEN LAUT RECHNUNG)

> bankowy Archiwum Oanstwowego w Poznaniu, ul.23 Lutego 41/43 (STAATLICHES

ARCHIV IN POSEN STRASSE DES 23 FEBRUAR 41/43)

> Jetzt folgt die Kontoangabe ( KONTO NR.: . . . . . . . .)
>
> Weiterer Text:
> Kserokopie dokomentu przeslemy po otrzymaniu bankowego dowodu wplaty (

EINE KOPIE DES DOKUNMETES SCHICKEN WIR IHNEN NACH ERHALT DER BANK
BESTETIGUNG - AUSZUGS)

> dann Unterschrift.
> Da ich den Betrag bereits überwiesen habe, werde ich aus den Zeilen nicht
> schlau.

// Sie schicken dir die Dokumente als Kopie nachdem sie won der Bank
bescheid bekommen daß das Geld angekommen ist. Also Geduldig bleiben bzw.
die Überweisungskonie per Mail schicken.//

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Uschi Wojciechowski


[HN] Help reading German script

Date: 2006/05/04 18:11:00
From: Larry Monk <lmonk33(a)msn.com>


Good morning, all you friendly and helpful Listers!

I'm pouring through the LDS microfilms of the Engerhafe parish records, and finding
relatives I've been looking for.

But I have trouble reading the script. I would like some help transcribing and translating
what I find.

So I would like to send someone, privately, digital photos of a few entries from 1844 and earlier. If you can help, then I will be able to decipher the records with more confidence.

Thanks a great deal!

Larry Monk
Lmonk33(a)msn.com



Re: [HN] Aurich Civil Registration

Date: 2006/05/04 18:16:03
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>


Hi Joe:

I looked at Castle Garden and noted that there were 5 children in the family, born between 1856 and 1868. Have you tried to research them and go back to Fred and Ida?
I would bet they were married 1854 or 1856.

I only know of one Aurich in Ostfriesland, but that does not mean there are not more.

Have you tried the Family History Library? It has Aurich listed and Aurich-Oldendorf listed. They are both in Hannover, and there appears to be substantial material covering the periods you are interested in.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Gale



On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:57:23 -0700
 Joseph E Wolfe <joeedwolfe(a)juno.com> wrote:

I am trying to locate a marriage record for Frederick SIEBOLDS AND his
wife Ida Georgs

which I understand took place in Aurich around 1850....I have checked
all the church

records available and did not find anything....It was most likely a civil
marriage.  Our

civil registration is only for 1811 to 1812 and again from 1863 to
1875......Frederick and

family emigrated to U.S.A. IN 1868 and in 1870 census lists himself and
family as from

Hanover.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help.

Joe Wolfe
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Re: [HN] Help reading German script

Date: 2006/05/04 18:30:16
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>

Hi Larry:

I am no expert on handwriting, but I have found the following helpful:

"If I Can You Can Decipher Germanic Records" by Edna M. Bentz. ISBN 0-9615420-O-4

It has about a dozen variations of script for each upper case letter and a half dozen for lower case script.

Gothic alphabet done the same way.

A discussion on the use of Umlaut's

A script list of relationships between people.

Genealogical terminology and symbols.

Calendar names-months days and symbols for days of the week.

Latin-English-German Script-Danish terms

Glossary of Illnesses Found in German Church Records (Script)

Occupations and Titles German(Script)-English-Latin-Danish

It is spiral bound and 87 pages. I have seen it in almost all of the genealogical libraries I have been to.

Gale


On Thu, 04 May 2006 09:10:48 -0700
 "Larry Monk" <lmonk33(a)msn.com> wrote:

Good morning, all you friendly and helpful Listers!

I'm pouring through the LDS microfilms of the Engerhafe parish records, and finding
relatives I've been looking for.

But I have trouble reading the script. I would like some help transcribing and translating
what I find.

So I would like to send someone, privately, digital photos of a few entries from 1844 and earlier. If you can help, then I will be able to decipher the records with more confidence.

Thanks a great deal!

Larry Monk
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[HN] Familie v. Schwichel(d/t) um 1500

Date: 2006/05/04 19:45:09
From: ViktorHaupt <ViktorHaupt(a)aol.com>

Hallo,
vor einiger Zeit habe ich die Familiengeschichte derer von Schwichel(d/t)  in 
der Zeit um 1500 und davor nach einem Urahn durchleuchtet. Leider bisher ohne 
 Erfolg. Mein Heinrich von Schwichel(l/t) taucht im Herbst 1514 in Königsberg 
 auf, ist ein Glocken- und Geschützgießer und stirbt in Ostpreußen um 1545. 
Das  von ihm erworbene Gut bleibt über 300 Jahre in der Familie. Indizien 
schienen  eine illegitime Geburt anzudeuten. Die Geburt könnte um 1480 anzunehmen 
sein.  Der Name kann auch als Herkunftsname aus dem Ort Schwichelt (bei Peine)  
entstanden sein, ohne direkt mit der adeligen Familie in Verbindung zu 
stehen.  Ich habe hier im Berliner Staatsarchiv noch viele Urkunden und Briefe 
(teils von  ihm selbst) gefunden, die zwar sein ostpreußisches Leben gut 
dokumentieren,  aber leider nichts über seine Herkunft aussagen.
 
Soweit zunächst in Kurzform mein Interesse an den Schwicheldt´s. Es  gibt zu 
der Familie eine riesige Menge von Dokumenten in den  niedersächsischen 
Archiven _izn-AIDA online - © Informatikzentrum  Niedersachsen_ 
(http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/)  Der nebenstehende Link führt zu einer Internetrecherche der 
 angeschlossenen Archive. Ich fürchte nur, daß die meisten Akten nicht viel  
genealogisch verwertbares Material enthalten.
 
Dann habe ich mir über Fernleihe das folgendes Buch besorgt:
F. Vogell: Versuch einer Geschlechts-Geschichte des Reichsgräflichen Hauses  
von Schwicheldt, Celle 1823
 
Ich habe mir eine Kopie davon gemacht und könnte auch die Stammtafeln aus  
dem Anhang als Scan rübermailen. 
 
In der Geschichte der Region Hildesheim kenne ich mich ein bißchen  aus.
 
Wie ist Ihr Interesse an der Familie v. Schwicheldt ...?
 
Grüße aus Berlin  

Viktor Haupt


Re: [HN] Fw: [Hannover-l] Zivildienst während der Militärzeit.

Date: 2006/05/04 21:08:59
From: Pschwenkedu <Pschwenkedu(a)aol.com>

Hallo Herr Schweimler !
Aus dem Berufsweg eines Verwandten 1880 bis 1965 kann ich Parallelen 
aufzeigen.
Mit den Dienstantritt eines länger dienenden Soldaten (so genannte 
Zwölfender, 12 Jahre verpflichtet) war der Soldat in Staatsobhut. Vor Ablauf der 
Dienstzeit konnte der Versorgungsanwärter an einer Armeeschule sich ausbilden lassen. 
Die Möglichkeit konnte je nach Ausbildungslänge des später vorgesehenen 
Dienstes, in der laufenden Dienstzeit
genutzt werden. Diese Einrichtungen waren zumeist im Bereich der Garnison.
Mein Ahne, hatte eine Landwirtschaftschule besucht und damit den Abschluss 
als Verwalter eines Staatlichen Gut erworben.
Da Hitler die Macht übernahm, wurde die Weiterverwendung den staatlichen 
Interessen angepaßt.Die vorgesehene Verwalterstelle war noch nicht frei, Sodas er 
die Wahl hatte 
als Grenzbeamter, Justizbeamter, Postbeamter oder beim Postschutz (Polizei) 
tätig zu werden. Er hat sich dann für die Post entschieden die seiner Familie 
auch eine Wohnung anbot. Eine andere Kuriosität war die Eheerlaubniß. Der Ahne 
war in Hameln stationiert und lernte dort seine spätere Frau kennen. Er durfte 
erst heiraten als er  einen Dienstgrad erreichte, in dem die 
Familienversorgung eingeschlossen war. Darauf hat er dann fast 5 Jahre warten müssen.
Das war auch die Zeit als er die Schulung hatte. In der Zeit wurde er auch 
für  Praktikum freigestellt, was Bestandteil der schulischen Ausbildung war. So 
nahm er statt an den üblichen Sommermanövern, an Ernteeinsätze auf staatlichen 
Gütern teil, wo er auf Domänen die Organisation der Ernte leitete.
Dann bestand noch eine weitere Sonderregelung. Man konnte sich nach Ablauf 
der offiziellen Dienstzeit für einen zum Wehrdienst ausgehobenen Rekruten 
verpflichten, dessen Dienstzeit zu übernehmen.Dafür gab es offiziell eine Geldwerte 
Entschädigung, die aber oft von den Vater des Betroffenen , erheblich 
aufgestockt wurde, es gab auch Naturalleistungen, wenn der Soldat verlobt oder 
verheiratet war, profitierte die Frau  durch einen Arbeitsplatz oder eine Wohnung.Da 
waren die Kaufleute sehr erfinderisch, wenn nur der liebe Junior nicht dienen 
brauchte.
Nun muss man auch bedenken, das diese "Alten Herren" wie man sie in der 
Soldatensprache nannte,wußten wohin der Hase lief. Lange Dienstzeit, tätig als 
Ausbilder und länger bei der Truppe als mancher Offizier, war es der Stamm der 
Armee. Das wussten diese "Alten Herren"
mit Inanspruchnahme mancher Freiheit, zu nutzen. 
Das als Beispiel. Ich kann mir für ihren Fall folgendes erklären. Ihr Ahne 
hat sich sicherlich weiterverpflichtet und die Zeit genutzt um für seine Zukunft 
zu sorgen. Also eine Staatliche Ausbildung aufgenommen. Sicherlich geschult 
als Verwaltungsbeamter, wird er in der staatlichen Saline ein 
Praktikum/Ausbíldung gemacht haben. Da er einer der "Alten Herren" war, also mindestens 12 
Ender, hat er oder seine Ausbilder, eventuell auch zukünftige Vorgesetzte, einen 
Weg gefunden haben das er dort ausgebildet wurde..
Da war Kameradschaft üblich. Was, wenn einer seiner Offiziere, nach deren 
begrenzten Dienstzeit, ein Direktor dieser Einrichtung war. Dann war dieser doch 
sehr interessiert einen guten, zuverlässigen Kammeraden den Posten zu geben, 
denn dieser war von da an sein treuer Untergebener.
Damit möchte ich es bewenden lassen, ich hätte da noch eine Menge mehr 
Eigenarten vorzutragen. Aber ich denke, das Sie die Eigenart der Tätigkeit nun 
einschätzen können.
Es war mit Sicherheit alles hoch offiziell und auch zum Wohle, nicht nur des 
Vaterlandes.
Vergessen Sie nicht den Soldaten Schweik, davon gab es in der Armee eine 
große Zahl.
MfG
Schwenke Archiv
I

Re: [HN] Help reading German script

Date: 2006/05/04 21:31:01
From: edwardssl <edwardssl(a)att.net>

Hi Larry

The following link will provide more links to old handwritten german script samples.

http://www.genealogienetz.de/misc/scripts.html

I would have been lost without it.  Hope it helps you.

Linda

Re: [HN] Help reading German script

Date: 2006/05/04 23:04:53
From: Susanne Schmitz <su-schmitz(a)gmx.net>

Hallo Larry,

send your photos to my adress, I will try to help you.

MfG   Susanne

But I have trouble reading the script. I would like some help transcribing
and translating
what I find.

So I would like to send someone, privately, digital photos of a few entries
from 1844 and
earlier.

Re: [HN] Aurich Civil Registration

Date: 2006/05/04 23:19:56
From: Joseph E Wolfe <joeedwolfe(a)juno.com>

Gale: ;thank you for your answer to my query. there  are actually two
Aurichs in Germany

the bigger one in Hannover and a smaller one in Wurttemberg.  I was at
the Salt Lake

library about two weeks ago and combed through the 5 films from Aurich
Hannover and the 1

from Wurttemberg (all church records) with no success at all.

which led me to believe that Frederick Siebold and his wife  were
actually united in a

civil ceremony and not a church wedding (hence the civil registration
request)  the whole

family came to America in 1868 and settled in Wisconsin.

Many thankx for your reply.

regards

Joe Wolfe

Re: [HN] Aurich Civil Registration

Date: 2006/05/05 04:40:34
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi,
    That is not fun - looking at 5 films and finding nothing.

     I would suggest that you do a search on the LDS page for the name
Georgs and hit "correct spelling" and you will find a number of Georgs
family from other towns near Aurich, like  Timmel, Dornum, Bangstede, etc.
Sometimes the name of a county, larger parish, district, etc is used (like
Aurich) when the small town may be less well-known.  That Georgs name
certainly was prevalent in that area around Aurich.  There are some LDS
films for those towns.  There's even a town called Georgsfeld.

     Of course, you should look for Siebolds that same way.

    You might try this site:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnogsm/queries.htm
    It is the  OSTFRIESEN GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF AMERICA

     Run a search on this  http://www.gencircles.com/

    There are both Georgs And Siebolds there.

     Also, try here: http://geneanet.org/

     And also: http://meta.genealogy.net/metasuche/index.jsp

      You may have done all these things, but there are some results on the
names you are looking for. If the right given name isn't there, write to the
people who placed the information there and maybe they'll have some
suggestions for you.   The "s" on the end may be omitted at times, but it's
basically the same name.  However, it looks to me that the names in the
Aurich area do use that "s".

    Lastly, why do you want the marriage record if you know the names of
both of them already?  I've seen a lot of disappointing marriage records.
Often, all  you can get is the names of the two people and the date of the
marriage.  Grrr..

I wish you luck,
Barbara

    

on 5/4/06 3:11 PM, Joseph E Wolfe at joeedwolfe(a)juno.com wrote:

> Gale: ;thank you for your answer to my query. there  are actually two
> Aurichs in Germany
> 
> the bigger one in Hannover and a smaller one in Wurttemberg.  I was at
> the Salt Lake
> 
> library about two weeks ago and combed through the 5 films from Aurich
> Hannover and the 1
> 
> from Wurttemberg (all church records) with no success at all.
> 
> which led me to believe that Frederick Siebold and his wife  were
> actually united in a
> 
> civil ceremony and not a church wedding (hence the civil registration
> request)  the whole
> 
> family came to America in 1868 and settled in Wisconsin.
> 
> Many thankx for your reply.
> 
> regards
> 
> Joe Wolfe
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Re: [HN] Deike Cook county ILL

Date: 2006/05/05 04:59:12
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hello,

Have you run across the excellent Auroracemeteries.com website?

I noticed surname Kahle at this site.

http://www.auroracemeteries.com/KKK/kahle.htm

For Spring Valley and St. Paul Cemeteries there is actual cemetery lot search. Have not run across the name Deike in name index..but have run across surnames in cemetery lot search that are not in name index...

What I mean is.. if you check lot #'s for Spring Lake or St. Pauls for Kahle you may possibly discover a potential new family line or clue to your own ancestors...

Sorting through papers I have accumlated... I come across surnames that "seem" familiar from hannoverl. Ocassionally the "familiar" surnames I will post obituary or little news tidbit in the chance that might be useful one day to some one...:) Sinse I lack photographic memory once item is posted I usually then forget ...as data often is something I happend to have accumulated doing my own family research...from newspaper copies..book indexes.. I try to include source data when making such a post. If I have ever posted something of interest to anyone on this board and then have ingnored responding to any query over..just remind me in BIG BOLD LETTERS..and I'll recheck my data..or locate source of data if I neglected to include.

Barbie-Lew






Barbie-Lew



I have Deikes' that settled in Elk Grove / Schaumburg Cook cty, Ill in 1850 s. my G-Grandfather b. 1832 in Germany no info on town, but 1 sister, and 1 brother are listed as b. in Sonnenbrostel, Hannover. 1 b. 1828-- 1 b. 1832 . their parents are listed as Heinrich Deike and Sophia Kahle. both b. abt 1800 in Germany ( no other info ) the Heinrich & Sophia info was supposed to have come from a 25 volume set " Germans to America " ?? I have never seen these volumes. Denny Deike dbdeike(a)msn.com<mailto:dbdeike(a)msn.com>
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Re: [HN] Aurich Civil Registration

Date: 2006/05/05 05:21:29
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hiyas,

I think a civil marriage record could be useful when civil records are kept for all marriages.

Have seen U.S. civil records that include ages and address of the couple to be married and sometimes even address and name of priest/minister who performed actual ceremony.

By discovering name of person who performed marriage, or address where marriage took place may be quite helpful in that beloved quest for roots..

Barbie-Lew

    Lastly, why do you want the marriage record if you know the names of
both of them already?  I've seen a lot of disappointing marriage records.
Often, all  you can get is the names of the two people and the date of the
marriage.  Grrr..

I wish you luck,
Barbara



on 5/4/06 3:11 PM, Joseph E Wolfe at joeedwolfe(a)juno.com wrote:

> Gale: ;thank you for your answer to my query. there  are actually two
> Aurichs in Germany
>
> the bigger one in Hannover and a smaller one in Wurttemberg.  I was at
> the Salt Lake
>
> library about two weeks ago and combed through the 5 films from Aurich
> Hannover and the 1
>
> from Wurttemberg (all church records) with no success at all.
>
> which led me to believe that Frederick Siebold and his wife  were
> actually united in a
>
> civil ceremony and not a church wedding (hence the civil registration
> request)  the whole
>
> family came to America in 1868 and settled in Wisconsin.
>
> Many thankx for your reply.
>
> regards
>
> Joe Wolfe
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>
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Re: [HN] Deike Cook county ILL

Date: 2006/05/05 05:21:51
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Denny,

      Large public libraries often have the volumes of Germans to America.
It includes shiplists that are organized by years.  It starts with 1850,
nothing before.  And, of course, not every shiplist is there.

    Have you seen the Deike people on this website?

http://www.karensgen.com/buch/minnesota/ricett1.php

    There is no church on the map for Sonnenborstel. Either my German atlas
is wrong or you have spelled it wrong. The people there likely would have
gone to church in Steimbke.

Good luck,
Barbara

   




on 4/28/06 3:26 PM, denny deike at dbdeike(a)msn.com wrote:

> I have Deikes'   that settled in Elk Grove / Schaumburg Cook cty, Ill in 1850
> s. my G-Grandfather b. 1832 in Germany no info on town, but 1 sister, and 1
> brother are listed as b. in Sonnenbrostel, Hannover. 1 b. 1828-- 1 b. 1832 .
> their parents are listed as Heinrich Deike and Sophia Kahle. both b. abt 1800
> in Germany ( no other info ) the Heinrich & Sophia info was supposed to have
> come from a 25 volume set " Germans to America " ?? I have never seen these
> volumes.  Denny Deike      dbdeike(a)msn.com<mailto:dbdeike(a)msn.com>
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[HN] Deike

Date: 2006/05/05 19:29:47
From: Georgia Bruns <georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com>

 
 
 Hi Denny,
I have an obituary for a Deike and where he was from in Germany if you would
like that?   Died about 1930. Hand dated.  I could scan it for you.
I have some Kahle in my family tree and I am interested in both names.  

A quick check on Ancestry doesn't show many families here in America
1860-1880.  1900 shows 165 people.  Would be glad to help from here to see
if you can get any clues or a connection.  

There are quite a few here as he ( the obit mentioned earlier) left four
sons, and it also states he had two brothers.  There are also some Deike
German obits I could get,  died 1903 and 1919.  Probably parents or Uncles. 


Yours could have family that moved west.  Most did have some relatives that
moved away. 
 http://www.karensgen.com/cgi-bin/htsearch  

I did a search on this webpage myself.  I am guessing that they all are
related and Karen is very happy to help if she has the time.   I have access
to the Deike German obits on this page if you are interested http://www
karensgen.com/buch/iowa/phoenixobits/a-d.php

Karen also has a lot of Kahle information on her pages. 

Let me know if you would like some help from this area.  

georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com

Georgia Bruns

 

[HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/05 21:08:55
From: Patricia Knight <pknight1(a)fidnet.com>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Patricia Knight 
To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net 
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: BUSH, HAMKE




Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.

Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke Bush b. Hanover.  All were from the Hanover area.

It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the above.  The penmanship was good.

Thanks

Pat


[HN] Aurora Illinois

Date: 2006/05/06 03:35:11
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Listies,

Per Wilkapedia:

Aurora is a city located in Kane, DuPage, Will and Kendall counties in Illinois. Huge area with numerous families of German descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Illinois#History

Worth talking a look at:

http://www.auroracemeteries.com/

There are surnames indexed from obituaries published in an Aurora newspaper even those who are not buried in the Arurora area, as well as actual burial records for a couple of cemeteries.

Barbie-Lew

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[HN] Staatsarchiv Bückeburg - Tag der offenen T ür , 06.05.

Date: 2006/05/06 08:47:07
From: Couch gesucht <webmaster(a)couch-gesucht.de>

Hallo,

für alle, die es interessiert:

Ich habe gerade in der heutigen Zeitung gelesen, daß das Staatsarchiv Bückeburg heute am "Tag der offenen Archive" von 11 - 16 Uhr seine Werkstätten öffnet.

Man kann sehen, wie die geschichtlichen Dokumente zur Sicherung verfilmt und wie geschädigte Dokumente repariert werden..

Als besondere Attraktion werden am "Tag der Archive" auch Karten über den ebenso berühmten ie altehrwürdigen Bergbau des Harzes zu sehen sein, di ein den vergangenen Wochen für das Archiv des Oberbergamtes Clausthla im Staatsarchiv Bückeburg restauriert wurden.

Zudem sind auf Tafeln im Eingangsbereich die enthusiastischen Zeitungsberichte zu lesen, die 1954, 1974 und 1990 bei der jeweiligen Fußballweltmeisterschaft erschienen sind.

Prospekte zum Mitnehmen liegen aus und es werden Bücher zum Kauf angeboten.

Viele  Grüße
Marion Heidenreich


[HN] Fw: [OL] Familie Barnstorf.......Blumenthal and laterGeestemunde.......1852- 1920

Date: 2006/05/06 13:07:00
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

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  Datum: 05.05.2006, 13:02:15
Betreff: *** Spam *** [OL] Familie Barnstorf.......Blumenthal and laterGeestemunde.......1852- 1920

Am seeking information on decendants of family of Heinrich Barnstorf born /baptised Blumenthal 28.12.1853  and D. Barnstorf, harbour policeman ,1904 -Geestemunde and Anna Margarethe Hinrieke Barnstorf  born 16.02.1828 died 02.04 .1920.Also Johanne Barnstorf born. 12.02.1893 in Geestemunde.and  Gerhard Barnstorf born 17.02.1896 in Geestemunde Thanks...James Degen
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[HN] Rohwold Family

Date: 2006/05/06 15:34:20
From: janet henriksen <janjans(a)hughes.net>

My g-grandfather was Wilhelm Rohwold born in Linden, Hannover about 1840. His parents were Wilhelm Rohwold and Helene Heumann or Heimann. They were of Lutheran faith. This information comes from his marriage application. Wilhelm immigrated to the US about 1860 and married a Rebecca Armstrong in 1872. Wilhelm junior died in 1882 in New York City (info from death certificate). 
I would like to find records of his birth and immigration. Did Wilhelm have any siblings? When did his parents die?
Any help on these questions would be appreciated. 

Janet

Re: [HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803 [Antwort für Werner und Harald]

Date: 2006/05/06 18:33:25
From: Lex_Bennink <lexbennink(a)wanadoo.nl>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:25:26 +0200
From: "Harald Kemm" <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de>
Subject: Re: [HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803
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Gutentag,

Für die Ahnentafel meiner Kinder suche ich Jan Berends Hutter. Er war etwa
1803 geburtig in Nesse Ambt Berem ins Königsreich Hannover. Diese Daten
fand
ich auf seiner Heirats Akte. Er heiratete in die Niederlande am 29sten
Oktober 1830 in Blokzijl mit Aaltje Wilgenkamp. Er starb am 66-järigen
Alter
auf 12, Märx 1868 in Almelo (Niederlande).

Gerne möchte ich sein Geburtstag and die Namen seiner Eltern wissen. Kann
jemand mir helfen?

Entschuldigung für mein Fehler auf Deutsch, Ich hoffe daß Sie mir trotzdem
verstehen.

Mit freundlichen Grüße,

Lex Bennink



Hallo Lex Bennink,

die Ortschaft Nesse liegt zwischen Norden und Dornum in Ostfriesland. Die
PLZ für Nesse 26553, die Telefonnr. für die Kirche 04933-914053

Im Orts- u. Gemeindelexikon von 1901 wird Nesse folgendermaßen beschrieben:

Nesse,  Dorf  Preuß.(Hann.), Kreis Norden,  Amtsgericht Berum, Eisenbahn
Hage, 949 Einwohner, Post u. ev. Kirche.

Viel Erfolg bei der weiteren Suche und einen schönen Tag noch aus
Barsinghausen

Harald (Kemm)
harald.kemm(a)freenet.de

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Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:22:48 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [HN] Suche nach Ahnen in ambt Berem Hannover etwa 1803
To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
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Hallo Lex,

St. Marien-Kirchengemeinde Nesse

Gemeinde mit rd. 1300 Gemeindegliedern, Tuffsteinkirchenbau mit
Sandsteintaufe aus dem jahr 1250/70 - bildet mit dem Glockenturm aus dem
Alten Steinhaus zu Nesse ein einzigartiges Ensemble alter ostfriesischer
Baukultur

Kirchpfad 1
26553 Nesse
Telefon: 04933 - 914053
Telefax: 04933 - 914054
E-Mail: m.hurtig(a)ewetel.net  (Pastor)

Nachstehend zwei URL über genealogischen Quellen zu Nesse bei Neßmersiel an
der Nordsee:

http://www.genealogie-forum.de/ostfrld/kirchen/suchen/ortsliste/ortsliste-n.htm

http://www.genealogie-forum.de/ostfrld/kirchen/nesse.htm

Viel Glück,
Werner Honkomp

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Antwort Lex Bennink

Harald und Werner,

Entschuldigung für das späte Antwort, ich habe gewartet bis vielleicht mehrere Reaktionen kamen. Vielen Dank für Ihre Reaktionen. Es gibt mir weitere Möglichkeiten zum Nachforschung. Ich würde die Tips nachfolgen.

Mit freundlichen Grüße,

Lex Bennink



Re: [HN] Rohwold Family

Date: 2006/05/06 18:46:33
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Janet,

      Yours is a difficult search since there are a number of towns by the
name of Linden. Do you know which is the correct one?

    If not, I offer this bit of reasoning. From the German telephone book, I
found 3 Rohwolds in the former kingdom of Hannover area: near Gifhorn, the
city of Hannover, and near Burgwedel.

    You may know that there is a listing on the LDS site for a Rohwold:

 William Fritz Rohwold 5 DEC 1863  Sankt Martin,Linden Stkr, Linden,
Hannover, Preussen

     There is a town named Linden close to the center of the city of
Hannover. Then, on the LDS search for Place, I found this listing:

Linden (StKr. Linden)
Germany, Preußen, Hannover, Linden (StKr. Linden)
      That is the same as the William Rohwold above.

      There are quite a number of records on microfilm there (church
records, census, etc)  If you are anywhere near a LDS center, you can order
the films and view them there.  That should give you the information you are
searching for. 

Good luck,
Barbara

      

   




on 5/6/06 7:33 AM, janet henriksen at janjans(a)hughes.net wrote:

> My g-grandfather was Wilhelm Rohwold born in Linden, Hannover about 1840. His
> parents were Wilhelm Rohwold and Helene Heumann or Heimann. They were of
> Lutheran faith. This information comes from his marriage application. Wilhelm
> immigrated to the US about 1860 and married a Rebecca Armstrong in 1872.
> Wilhelm junior died in 1882 in New York City (info from death certificate).
> I would like to find records of his birth and immigration. Did Wilhelm have
> any siblings? When did his parents die?
> Any help on these questions would be appreciated.
> 
> Janet
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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/06 19:28:52
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>

Hi Pat:

I am not sure which word/name you are interested in, but I assume it is the two on your subject line.

The first thing that you have to acknowledge is that while the penmanship may be good, the "H" you see may not have been a "H" to the person who wrote it. However, if it was written in the U.S. in 1910, it is probably an "H". In this case I find in old German script that a lower case "n" could look like a lower case "m" to most of us in the States. The name would then be Hanke. In my GF's home town, there was a family of five Hanke's living three doors down the street. Bush also seems to be a common surname.


On Fri, 5 May 2006 14:03:59 -0500
 "Patricia Knight" <pknight1(a)fidnet.com> wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Knight To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: BUSH, HAMKE




Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.

Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke Bush b. Hanover. All were from the Hanover area.

It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the above. The penmanship was good.

Thanks

Pat

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[HN] Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg

Date: 2006/05/06 21:51:47
From: Sebastian Rautenberg <basti(a)sera-online.net>

Hallo Liebe Listenteilnehmer,
ich bin auf der suche nach der Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg aus dem Gebiet um Hildesheim.

Ist jemandem bekannt wo diese zu finden ist? Ob Museum oder so?

Grüße
Sebastian

Re: [HN] Deike Cook county ILL

Date: 2006/05/06 21:56:14
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   hi,

   sorry, my english is not so good.

   I have here a Dorothee Decke / or Deike . She come from Garstedt ( we
   have 2 towns in germany with this name, one Town is near Salzhausen in
   Niedersachsen, and the second Town was  near Hamburg in Schleswig
   Hollstein. Some Decke, or Deike are found in the Garstedt near
   Hamburg, but i dont found my Dorothea Deicke.

   Dorothea Deike married Johann Andreas Krüger ,a privat from the King
   Germany Legion.  The Son was born1807 in Bally Bay, this is in G.B. in
   Irland . He married later and dead in Celle, near Hannover.

   The name Kahle, i read someone in the little towns near  Neustadt a.
   Rübenberge, near Hannover.

   I hope you can found your ancestor

   some geats send Petra
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   CEST Von: "denny deike"<dbdeike(a)msn.com> > I have Deikes' that settled
   in Elk Grove / Schaumburg Cook cty, Ill in > 1850 s. my G-Grandfather
   b. 1832 in Germany no info on town, but 1 sister, > and 1 brother are
   listed as b. in Sonnenbrostel, Hannover. 1 b. 1828-- 1 b. > 1832 .
   their parents are listed as Heinrich Deike and Sophia Kahle. both b. >
   abt 1800 in Germany ( no other info ) the Heinrich & Sophia info was >
   supposed to have come from a 25 volume set " Germans to America " ?? I
   have > never seen these volumes. Denny Deike > dbdeike(a)msn.com >
   ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing
   list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
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   46945366477541&rgtg=256] 

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Re: [HN] Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg

Date: 2006/05/07 00:24:04
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo,

Index - Rautenberg 25+

Title: Urkundenbuch des altfreien Geschlechtes der Barone, Grafen und Herren von Alten : mit 2 Siegeltafeln : aus gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen als Handschrift gedruckt.

City of Publication: Weimar
Publisher: Druck der Hof-Buchdr.
Date: 1901

Index - Rautenberg 25+

Is German Language Book-
Includes Source citations

I believe is history of von Alten family but if you are interested in data regarding Rautenberg send me a mail.

Barbie-Lew

P.S.  Many familiar surnames from hannoverl indexed in book.
Knigge, Scharnhorst, Homeyer, Homeister, Schulenburg, Wrede, Astenbecke, Jagow, Heym, Macke, and many others..Some numerous references, some few.




Hallo Liebe Listenteilnehmer,
ich bin auf der suche nach der Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg aus dem Gebiet um Hildesheim.

Ist jemandem bekannt wo diese zu finden ist? Ob Museum oder so?

Grüße
Sebastian
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Re: [HN] Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg

Date: 2006/05/07 00:29:11
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo,

Any of your Familie Rautenberg in the U.S.? Have come across Rautenberg while perusing midwestern county histories.

Barbie-Lew

Hallo Liebe Listenteilnehmer,
ich bin auf der suche nach der Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg aus dem Gebiet um Hildesheim.

Ist jemandem bekannt wo diese zu finden ist? Ob Museum oder so?

Grüße
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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/07 00:32:13
From: Patricia Knight <pknight1(a)fidnet.com>

Hi Gale

Your assumption is correct..

I guess , I should have put the name in the body of the query , too!

The writing was not in script...but  pretty plain. I examined letter by
letter and am sure it is Hamke. I have found a Harmke on line ...and this
could be the right spelling....but, it wasn't in Hanover.

I thought , Hamke, might be a title of some sort...like Taalke ...I think,
means widow or it could be a quaint old name from another part of
Europe??????

Thanks for the response.


Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: <gale(a)bosche.info>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE


Hi Pat:

I am not sure which word/name you are interested in, but I
assume it is the two on your subject line.

The first thing that you have to acknowledge is that while
the penmanship may be good, the "H" you see may not have
been a "H" to the person who wrote it.  However, if it was
written in the U.S. in 1910, it is probably an "H".  In
this case I find in old German script that a lower case
"n" could look like a lower case "m" to most of us in the
States.  The name would then be Hanke.  In my GF's home
town, there was a family of five Hanke's living three
doors down the street. Bush also seems to be a common
surname.


On Fri, 5 May 2006 14:03:59 -0500
  "Patricia Knight" <pknight1(a)fidnet.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Patricia Knight
> To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
> Subject: BUSH, HAMKE
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on
>a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder
>Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.
>
> Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke
>Bush b. Hanover.  All were from the Hanover area.
>
> It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the
>above.  The penmanship was good.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pat
>
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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/07 02:36:04
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Pat, 

     There is a Harmke Busch online on the LDS page.  She/he? is from
Timmel. The source of that information is given on the LDS site.That's in
Hannover south of Aurich.  It's a small town, but there is a church there on
my map.

Barbara


on 5/6/06 4:36 PM, Patricia Knight at pknight1(a)fidnet.com wrote:

> Hi Gale
> 
> Your assumption is correct..
> 
> I guess , I should have put the name in the body of the query , too!
> 
> The writing was not in script...but  pretty plain. I examined letter by
> letter and am sure it is Hamke. I have found a Harmke on line ...and this
> could be the right spelling....but, it wasn't in Hanover.
> 
> I thought , Hamke, might be a title of some sort...like Taalke ...I think,
> means widow or it could be a quaint old name from another part of
> Europe??????
> 
> Thanks for the response.
> 
> 
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gale(a)bosche.info>
> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE
> 
> 
> Hi Pat:
> 
> I am not sure which word/name you are interested in, but I
> assume it is the two on your subject line.
> 
> The first thing that you have to acknowledge is that while
> the penmanship may be good, the "H" you see may not have
> been a "H" to the person who wrote it.  However, if it was
> written in the U.S. in 1910, it is probably an "H".  In
> this case I find in old German script that a lower case
> "n" could look like a lower case "m" to most of us in the
> States.  The name would then be Hanke.  In my GF's home
> town, there was a family of five Hanke's living three
> doors down the street. Bush also seems to be a common
> surname.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 5 May 2006 14:03:59 -0500
> "Patricia Knight" <pknight1(a)fidnet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Patricia Knight
>> To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net
>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
>> Subject: BUSH, HAMKE
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on
>> a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder
>> Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.
>> 
>> Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke
>> Bush b. Hanover.  All were from the Hanover area.
>> 
>> It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the
>> above.  The penmanship was good.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Pat
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/07 03:08:38
From: Patricia Knight <pknight1(a)fidnet.com>

Hi Barbara

If, you remember Leadwich Dres that was given on Margaret Schroeder Dedeke's
obit....would that be near this Aurich?

And would you know where this given name originated....I have heard a lot of
different names but, never this.....LOL

Or would you or any one on the list know?

Thanks so much!

Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: "R&B Stewart" <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE


Hi Pat,

     There is a Harmke Busch online on the LDS page.  She/he? is from
Timmel. The source of that information is given on the LDS site.That's in
Hannover south of Aurich.  It's a small town, but there is a church there on
my map.

Barbara


on 5/6/06 4:36 PM, Patricia Knight at pknight1(a)fidnet.com wrote:

> Hi Gale
>
> Your assumption is correct..
>
> I guess , I should have put the name in the body of the query , too!
>
> The writing was not in script...but  pretty plain. I examined letter by
> letter and am sure it is Hamke. I have found a Harmke on line ...and this
> could be the right spelling....but, it wasn't in Hanover.
>
> I thought , Hamke, might be a title of some sort...like Taalke ...I think,
> means widow or it could be a quaint old name from another part of
> Europe??????
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
>
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gale(a)bosche.info>
> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE
>
>
> Hi Pat:
>
> I am not sure which word/name you are interested in, but I
> assume it is the two on your subject line.
>
> The first thing that you have to acknowledge is that while
> the penmanship may be good, the "H" you see may not have
> been a "H" to the person who wrote it.  However, if it was
> written in the U.S. in 1910, it is probably an "H".  In
> this case I find in old German script that a lower case
> "n" could look like a lower case "m" to most of us in the
> States.  The name would then be Hanke.  In my GF's home
> town, there was a family of five Hanke's living three
> doors down the street. Bush also seems to be a common
> surname.
>
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2006 14:03:59 -0500
> "Patricia Knight" <pknight1(a)fidnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Patricia Knight
>> To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net
>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
>> Subject: BUSH, HAMKE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on
>> a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder
>> Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.
>>
>> Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke
>> Bush b. Hanover.  All were from the Hanover area.
>>
>> It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the
>> above.  The penmanship was good.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pat
>>
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>>
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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/07 03:27:20
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Pat,

     There is a town called Ludwigsdorf, closer to Aurich than Timmel.
Close your eyes and say Ludwigsdorf.  Does that sound like Leadwich Dres???
It could--maybe--if you mumbled it, or you weren't sure of the name.  I
don't know. 
    I'll keep looking.

Barbara




on 5/6/06 7:13 PM, Patricia Knight at pknight1(a)fidnet.com wrote:

> Hi Barbara
> 
> If, you remember Leadwich Dres that was given on Margaret Schroeder Dedeke's
> obit....would that be near this Aurich?
> 
> And would you know where this given name originated....I have heard a lot of
> different names but, never this.....LOL
> 
> Or would you or any one on the list know?
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R&B Stewart" <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>
> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE
> 
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> There is a Harmke Busch online on the LDS page.  She/he? is from
> Timmel. The source of that information is given on the LDS site.That's in
> Hannover south of Aurich.  It's a small town, but there is a church there on
> my map.
> 
> Barbara
> 
> 
> on 5/6/06 4:36 PM, Patricia Knight at pknight1(a)fidnet.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gale
>> 
>> Your assumption is correct..
>> 
>> I guess , I should have put the name in the body of the query , too!
>> 
>> The writing was not in script...but  pretty plain. I examined letter by
>> letter and am sure it is Hamke. I have found a Harmke on line ...and this
>> could be the right spelling....but, it wasn't in Hanover.
>> 
>> I thought , Hamke, might be a title of some sort...like Taalke ...I think,
>> means widow or it could be a quaint old name from another part of
>> Europe??????
>> 
>> Thanks for the response.
>> 
>> 
>> Pat
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <gale(a)bosche.info>
>> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pat:
>> 
>> I am not sure which word/name you are interested in, but I
>> assume it is the two on your subject line.
>> 
>> The first thing that you have to acknowledge is that while
>> the penmanship may be good, the "H" you see may not have
>> been a "H" to the person who wrote it.  However, if it was
>> written in the U.S. in 1910, it is probably an "H".  In
>> this case I find in old German script that a lower case
>> "n" could look like a lower case "m" to most of us in the
>> States.  The name would then be Hanke.  In my GF's home
>> town, there was a family of five Hanke's living three
>> doors down the street. Bush also seems to be a common
>> surname.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 5 May 2006 14:03:59 -0500
>> "Patricia Knight" <pknight1(a)fidnet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Patricia Knight
>>> To: hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net
>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:00 PM
>>> Subject: BUSH, HAMKE
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone an idea if, this is a given name....it is on
>>> a death certificate that I have for Margaret Schroeder
>>> Dedeke , who I have queried about before, as her mother.
>>> 
>>> Listed was Geo Schroeder b. Hanover and mother Hamke
>>> Bush b. Hanover.  All were from the Hanover area.
>>> 
>>> It was written by in 1910 and was clearly written as the
>>> above.  The penmanship was good.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Pat
>>> 
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Re: [HN] Rohwold Family

Date: 2006/05/07 06:00:10
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Janet,

       I must have gotten off on the wrong thing and didn't answer what you
wanted to know. I was distracted and started off on a search for the
Rohwolds in Germany.  I am sorry about that.

    Here is the New York state genealogy page:
         http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

There are many items there. However, many of them switch you to
Ancestry.com.  There you have to sign up for a fee for most of the records
you may wish to find.  Maybe someone on the list has a subscription to
Ancestry and could look for you. There was likely an obituary that may be
helpful.  

   The LDS site has two of the Rohwolds children listed:
www.familysearch.org   You can just use the Rohwold as a search term.

Good luck,
Barbara

on 5/6/06 10:46 AM, R&B Stewart at raybarbara(a)comcast.net wrote:

> Hi Janet,
> 
> Yours is a difficult search since there are a number of towns by the
> name of Linden. Do you know which is the correct one?
> 
> If not, I offer this bit of reasoning. From the German telephone book, I
> found 3 Rohwolds in the former kingdom of Hannover area: near Gifhorn, the
> city of Hannover, and near Burgwedel.
> 
> You may know that there is a listing on the LDS site for a Rohwold:
> 
> William Fritz Rohwold 5 DEC 1863  Sankt Martin,Linden Stkr, Linden,
> Hannover, Preussen
> 
> There is a town named Linden close to the center of the city of
> Hannover. Then, on the LDS search for Place, I found this listing:
> 
> Linden (StKr. Linden)
> Germany, Preußen, Hannover, Linden (StKr. Linden)
> That is the same as the William Rohwold above.
> 
> There are quite a number of records on microfilm there (church
> records, census, etc)  If you are anywhere near a LDS center, you can order
> the films and view them there.  That should give you the information you are
> searching for. 
> 
> Good luck,
> Barbara
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 5/6/06 7:33 AM, janet henriksen at janjans(a)hughes.net wrote:
> 
>> My g-grandfather was Wilhelm Rohwold born in Linden, Hannover about 1840. His
>> parents were Wilhelm Rohwold and Helene Heumann or Heimann. They were of
>> Lutheran faith. This information comes from his marriage application. Wilhelm
>> immigrated to the US about 1860 and married a Rebecca Armstrong in 1872.
>> Wilhelm junior died in 1882 in New York City (info from death certificate).
>> I would like to find records of his birth and immigration. Did Wilhelm have
>> any siblings? When did his parents die?
>> Any help on these questions would be appreciated.
>> 
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[HN] the Hempels of (possibly) Osterode District

Date: 2006/05/07 08:27:39
From: K E <kenofnocal(a)yahoo.com>

Greetings. I've just begun to research my German
ancestry, and have determined (through census data
from the later 19th century) that my 3rd
great-grandparents Charles Hempel (b abt 1822/23) and
Augusta Klapperodt (b abt 1827) as well as their three
sons (Charles, John, and Ernest) seem to have come
from the Kingdom of Hanover (in present-day Lower
Saxony).

I've contacted a research unit at the University of
Hanover that specializes in Lower Saxony ancestry, but
in the meantime I'm wondering if anyone might speak
German, and be willing to do a lookup in the
apparently free archives linked by this research
service. My German is extremely primitive, and my
attempts to use online translators have been rather
dismal failures. I have little idea what if any
pertinent information might be available in these
archives, but I thought it was worth a try.

Here is everything I know about the Hempels so far:

The Hempels arrived about 1865, and settled in Norfolk
County, Massachusetts. They told census takers in 1870
that they came from Hanover (by which I presume they
meant not the city but Kingdom of Hanover), and
Charles Hempel Sr or his wife Augusta told 1880 census
takers they were from Prussia (which is consistent,
given that Hanover was invaded, and occupied by
Prussia in 1866).

In the 1880 census Charles Hempel Jr told census
takers he was from "Osterow, Germany." There is no
such place as Osterow, Germany, but there is an
Osterode am Harz in Lower Saxony, which happens to be
a few miles from Augusta Klapperodt's possible place
of birth - Herzberg am Harz (this according to her
cemetery record - at least there Herzberg part [there
are multiple Herzbergs in the country but this is as I
understand it the only one in Lower Saxony]).

According to census recrods, Charles Hempel (Sr) (who
may have been named Carl [if not Carl Augustus]
Hempel) was born in 1822/23. Again: we don't know
where in Germany he was born but Osterode am Harz and
Herzberg am Harz are possibilities. He married Augusta
Klapperodt (and this may be only an approximate
spelling) - perhaps sometime in the mid to late 1840s.
Augusta was born about 1828 - again, perhaps in
Herzberg am Harz.

Charles and Augusta's first son Charles William (who
was likely named Carl Willhelm Hempel at birth) was
born in 1850 (perhaps in Osterode am Harz or
thereabouts). Their second son John (perhaps named
Johann) was born in 1856 in Germany.Their third son
Ernest L Hempel was born in 1864, also in Germany.

The Hempels were jewelers by trade, and there has been
some speculation in the family that they might have
been Jewish converts to Christianity before coming to
America. We have no hard evidence to support this
possibility, but the circumstantial case is not
without merit.

The archive is located here:

http://www.staatsarchive.niedersachsen.de:80/master/C504_L20_D0.html

Any other tips or leads that you think may be helpful
would be welcome.

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

Kenneth

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Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/07 14:46:27
From: Merrickwagner <Merrickwagner(a)cs.com>

I would also like to add one other confusing handwritten problem.  I have 
found my Gr. Gr. Grandfather Friedrich Dranse's last name spelled as Drause.  
When you look at the recorded name, the lower case "n" looks like a "u".  Most of 
the mistakes occur in the index files of the census and burial records that 
were transcribed during the depression of the 1930's.  I'm still searching for 
his immigration records.  In light of all the illegal immigration news we are 
hearing about, I wonder???????

[HN] Rohwold Family

Date: 2006/05/07 16:05:34
From: janet henriksen <janjans(a)direcway.com>

Barbara, thank you for the suggestions. I have checked the LDS site and have also looked at the films they have on church records and census 1851. Some of the information on the LDS site comes from a cousin that got the information from me. She has done little research herself even though she is a member of the LDS. I have also been a member of Ancestry for a number of years. They have very little information for German research.

I have been researching this family for about 6 years and have not been able to find the information I need.  

I do believe I have the right Linden because there are several Rohwold families listed in the church records (Saint Martins) but the Wilhelm I found that would have a birth date near mine died when he was 13 days old. Can you tell me where the other towns named Linden are located and I may be able to find Rohwolds there. Are they also in Hannover?

Rohwold is a very uncommon name and today there are only about 6 families in Germany with the name but have not been able to get any information from them. 

Wilhelm also had a naturalization record but it said he received his naturalization from service in the Army but there is no service record. 

The children listed on the LDS site are Elizabeth (my grandmother) and Sarah (Her sister). Both of their parents died when they were small so they did not have any information about them. They were orphans. Wilhelm and his wife are buried in GreenWood Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. I have not found a obit for either one of them. I believe her family all died before she did and I don't think he had family in the US. I do have a copy of a will for both Wilhelm and his wife Rebecca.


Thank you again for your help.

Re: [HN] German Friends

Date: 2006/05/07 23:22:52
From: bobbidoll <bobbidoll(a)myway.com>


Hi Max,

I'm sure you will have a wonderful time.  When my sister and I visited two years ago, looking for old family villages, time and again people went out of their way to be helpful to us.  They truly are wonderful.

Bobbi


 --- On Tue 05/02,  < pharmaxx(a)charter.net > wrote:
From:  [mailto: pharmaxx(a)charter.net]
To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 0:45:34 -0700
Subject: [HN] German Friends

Good Morning

Just a quick note to tell all my message board friends that I am presently in Hildesheim and will be meeting with Ericaa Giftge in a few minutes. Erica will take me and my daughter to Baddeckensted and will have the opportunity to see and visit with the wonderful German people. We arrived here yesterday and have been sightseeing ever since. Hildesheim is a wonderful town.

Max
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[HN] HINTE FAMILY.

Date: 2006/05/08 02:44:54
From: Bill HINTE <whinte(a)froggy.com.au>

Hi Listers.

              I am descendent from the "Bremen" HINTE families.
              I am aware of these families via the DIE MAUS data banks
(which are the best in the world).
             I would be very happy to correspond with any of the researchers
that are researching the HINTE family, or for that matter any  HINTE in
person, who may have an interest in Genealogy.
             I have considerable data dating back to the early 1700's on my
German ancestors & a good deal of data on our USA & Australian HINTE's.
             I am sure that there are many HINTE families with family data
that may be able to fill in some of the gaps I have in my data, Just as I am
more that willing to share with them data that I have, some of which has not
been previously published.
           As I said above I am more than willing to correspond with any
living HINTE or researcher of the HINTE surname.

      Kindest regards Bill HINTE   whinte(a)froggy.com.au

[HN] pschwenkedu(a)aol.com Abmeldung für Mai wegen Systemwechsel

Date: 2006/05/08 16:45:21
From: Pschwenkedu <Pschwenkedu(a)aol.com>

Hallo,
wegen Systemumstellung melde ich mich aus den Listen ab. 
Melde mich dann mit neuer Adresse.
MfG 
Schwenke

Re: [HN] Fw: BUSH, HAMKE

Date: 2006/05/08 17:54:34
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>

Hi:

The one thing you have to remember is that the writing is influenced by the period when it took place and who did the writing.

Your two spellings Dranse and Drause are different only by the n and u. In the old script, the "n"'s left leg and the upward motion for the "hump" are usually separated and the letter tends to look like a "v" leaning to the right. Thus, it could very well be considered an "u" by today's standards. Is the bottom of the letter pointed (like a w) or rounded like our current day "u"? If it was pointed it was more than likely an "n". Also, almost all of the old "u"'s had an accent mark over them.

Once again, you have to consider the when and who factors.

Illegal immigration?????

The more genealogy work I do, I find that many more people followed immigration rules than I originally thought. I think that they worried about the consequences of being caught undocumented. Also is someone in a community accused you of being illegal, you had to be ready to prove you were documented.

YES YES, there were many ways around it and there were a lots of undocumented people wandering around. But, if they wanted to settle down and raise a family, most of them did not want to worry and followed through with requirements.

The problem is finding those records. There was a lot of "Blood Sweat and Tears" in immigration and the same is true in finding those records.

The following URL: has a lot of links, but I still have not found what I am looking for.

Gale



On Sun, 7 May 2006 08:46:05 EDT
 Merrickwagner(a)cs.com wrote:
I would also like to add one other confusing handwritten problem. I have found my Gr. Gr. Grandfather Friedrich Dranse's last name spelled as Drause. When you look at the recorded name, the lower case "n" looks like a "u". Most of the mistakes occur in the index files of the census and burial records that were transcribed during the depression of the 1930's. I'm still searching for his immigration records. In light of all the illegal immigration news we are hearing about, I wonder???????
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[HN] SIMON ALBERTI

Date: 2006/05/08 21:06:56
From: Dirk Alberti <daalberti(a)planet.nl>

Sehr geerter Herr, Frau,

Ich bin schon lange Zeit auf die Suche nach einen *SIMON ALBERTI * (Alvert, Albrecht) geboren in 1625 und gestorben in 1680 in Idstein. Er war zwischen 1652 und 1680 Lehrer und Cantor an das Gymnasium in Idstein. Ich habe viele Forschungen gemacht in Pommern und verschiedene Universitaten in Nordens Deutschlands. Ich schreibe ein Familiengeschichte uber die Familie Alberti in Rhein-Lahn Kreis und die Niederlande. Was Ich sehr gerne wissen mochte ist:

1. Hat jemand in seine Ahnenforsching einen SIMON ALBERTI gefunden in die Tauf, Heirat oder Sterbebuchern 2. Hat jemand einen SIMON ALBERTI gefunden in die Matriklen von einer Universitat oder Gymnasium
3. Hat jemand einen SIMON ALBERTI gefunden als Pate in einen Taufbuch

Mit freundlichen Grussen

Dirk Alberti
Piet Heinstraat 119
Den Haag
Niederlande
Email: daalberti(a)planet.nl


Re: [HN] Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg

Date: 2006/05/09 03:12:56
From: gloepertz <gloepertz(a)comcast.net>

Hello Barbie
The Rautenberg families indexed in your sources, could any of them be Charles A Rautenberg of Toledo, OH, ? He was a musician, came here in 1864 with his mother Elizabeth, nee Hollman, father's name Christ, although I never did find him in the USA, and it appears that his mother remarried. Charles married Ella Hanlon, nee Shinaver, in 1902 in Toledo, her 3rd marriage. He died after 1922.
Guenter in Michigan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com> 

> Hallo, 
> 
> Any of your Familie Rautenberg in the U.S.? Have come across Rautenberg 
> while perusing midwestern county histories. 
> 
> Barbie-Lew 
> 
> Hallo Liebe Listenteilnehmer, 
> ich bin auf der suche nach der Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von 
> Rautenberg aus dem Gebiet um Hildesheim. 
> 
> Ist jemandem bekannt wo diese zu finden ist? Ob Museum oder so? 
> 
> Grüße 
> Sebastian 
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[HN] Wisseler/Wissler/Wisler

Date: 2006/05/09 08:55:27
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>


Wer hat diesen Namen in seiner AL?
Wer hat nähere Daten zu: Jost Wisseler se. geb. etwa 1651 gest. 1736 in Holtensen bei Göttingen, dort begr. 11-11-1736 verh. mit Margaretha Ahlbrecht.

[HN] Thanks for Help

Date: 2006/05/09 09:24:20
From: Gerd Lauing <Lauing.Gerd(a)t-online.de>

Hello "Cactus Flower",

thanks for your help, esp. the possible Elfring relations.
The Lauing branch is well known, because I have connections to the American relatives. And I found the German roots, for they didn't know.
The 1910 United States Federal Census shows, that Anna and her parents were born in Germany. So I hope, someone in Germany will know them. But there is no reaction. Better luck next time?
Best wishes to America,

Gerd (Lauing)


Re: [HN] Wisseler/Wissler/Wisler

Date: 2006/05/09 13:00:33
From: Klaus Gevert <kgevert(a)web.de>

Hallo!
Wer will das denn wissen?
Klaus (Gevert)

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Wolf Igmar
Mispelhorn
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 08:55
An: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [HN] Wisseler/Wissler/Wisler

 
Wer hat diesen Namen in seiner AL?
Wer hat nähere Daten zu: Jost Wisseler se. geb. etwa 1651 gest. 1736 in 
Holtensen bei Göttingen, dort begr. 11-11-1736 verh. mit Margaretha 
Ahlbrecht.
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[HN] BEHNKEN, HOLM, JAHN, KINAU,THYSELIUS , SCHMIDT-BARRIEN, SCHMIDT,HOLSTEN, KRUSE , de VRIES, HARDER, BRUHN, SAX, TAEGE-R ÖHNISCH, BULL, BARANOWSKI, BULLENDIEK, SC HENCK

Date: 2006/05/09 20:25:57
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

kleine Fundsache aus: Norddeutscher Heimatkalender 1998, Voss un Haas, S.55/56:

"Der Fritz-Reuter-Preis / wird von der Alfred Toepfer Stiftung F.V.S. zu Hamburg verliehen ...
jährlich verliehen ... mit 10.000 DM dotiert ... (translation: the Fritz-Reuter-Price is given early by the Alfred-Toepfer-Stiftung F.V.S. in Hamburg and endowed by 10.000 DM)

Preisträger (price winners):

1955 Heinrich BEHNKEN, Hamburg, * 25.12.1880 Ahlerstedt/Kreis stade, + 01.12.1960 Hamburg

1957 Hans Henning HOLM, Hamburg, * 20.11.1908 Nindorf, Kreis Rendsburg, + 25.03.1977 Hamburg

1959 Moritz JAHN, Göttingen, * 27.03.1884 Lilienthal, + 19.02.1979 Göttingen

1962 Rudolf Kinau, Hamburg, * 23.03.1887 Hamburg, + 20.11.1975 Hamburg

1965 Thora THYSELIUS, Brake, * 19.06.1911 Brake, + 08.03.1991 Brake

1968 Heinrich SCHMIDT-BARRIEN, Frankenburg/Niedersachsen, * 19.01.1902 Uthlede/Kreis Wesermünde

1972 Diederich Heinrich SCHMIDT, Leer, * 26.06.1933 Leer

1976 Christian HOLSTEN, Bremen, * 17.10.1922 Otterstedt/Kreis Verden, + 08.08.1993 Bremen

1979 Hinrich KRUSE, Braak b. Neumünster, *27.12.1916 Torflund/Nordschlwg., + 16.07.1994 Braak

1982 Gernot de VRIES, Aurich, *26.10.1925 Völlenerfehn/Kreis Leer

1985 Irmgard HARDER, Kiel, * 20.08.1922 Hamburg

1989 Waltrud BRUHN, Glückstadt, * 08. 02.1936 Bad Segeberg

1991 Ingo SAX, Hamburg, * 22.11.1940 Hamburg

1992 Erna TAEGE-RÖHNISCH, Templin/Uckermark, * 12.01.1909 Bebersee/ Schofheide

1993 Reimer BULL, Kiel, * 16.12.1933 Marne

1994 Ottilie BARANOWSKI, Münster, * 06.11.1925 Bevergern /Tecklenburger Land

1995 Bolko BULLERDIEK, Halstenbek, * 09.01.1939 Rungwe/Tanzania

1996 Jochen Schenck, Elmshorn, * 30.04.1929 Bremen "

Da auch die Dichter bisweilen Verwandschaft haben, mögen die Daten von Nutzen sein ( As also poets do have times by times relatives, the data may be of some use).

mit besten Grüßen and best wishes

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

[HN] Rohwold

Date: 2006/05/09 23:46:31
From: janet henriksen <janjans(a)hughes.net>

Barbara, thank you for the suggestions. I have checked the LDS site and have also looked at the films they have on church records and census 1851. Some of the information on the LDS site comes from a cousin that got the information from me. She has done little research herself even though she is a member of the LDS. I have also been a member of Ancestry for a number of years. They have very little information for German research.

I have been researching this family for about 6 years and have not been able to find the information I need.  

I do believe I have the right Linden because there are several Rohwold families listed in the church records (Saint Martins) but the Wilhelm I found that would have a birth date near mine died when he was 13 days old. Can you tell me where the other towns named Linden are located and I may be able to find Rohwolds there. Are they also in Hannover?

Rohwold is a very uncommon name and today there are only about 6 families in Germany with the name but have not been able to get any information from them. 

Wilhelm also had a naturalization record but it said he received his naturalization from service in the Army but there is no service record. 

The children listed on the LDS site are Elizabeth (my grandmother) and Sarah (Her sister). Both of their parents died when they were small so they did not have any information about them. They were orphans. Wilhelm and his wife are buried in GreenWood Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. I have not found a obit for either one of them. I believe her family all died before she did and I don't think he had family in the US. I do have a copy of a will for both Wilhelm and his wife Rebecca.


Thank you again for your help

Re: [HN] Rohwold

Date: 2006/05/10 02:12:06
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Janet,

    There are something like 15 towns in Germany named Linden.  However, in
the Hannover area, there is a tiny village near Schweinau (straight west of
Uelzen), one to the south of Wolfenbüttel (Braunschweig) and the one you are
familiar within the city of Hannover area. There may be more.

    I would suggest looking to some of the other towns which are listed on
the LDS site as in Kreis Linden.  Kreis means district or area. It could be
that people used the name Linden to mean the district rather than one
individual town. One example of that is the listing of Limmer (Linden).
These towns are part of the city of larger Hannover now. The LDS does have
church records for Limmer.

    I imagine you have posted with message boards, etc.  Some of the best
finds are from such sources.

I hope you find your people - 6 years is a long time.

Barbara


on 5/9/06 3:46 PM, janet henriksen at janjans(a)hughes.net wrote:

> Barbara, thank you for the suggestions. I have checked the LDS site and have
> also looked at the films they have on church records and census 1851. Some of
> the information on the LDS site comes from a cousin that got the information
> from me. She has done little research herself even though she is a member of
> the LDS. I have also been a member of Ancestry for a number of years. They
> have very little information for German research.
> 
> I have been researching this family for about 6 years and have not been able
> to find the information I need.
> 
> I do believe I have the right Linden because there are several Rohwold
> families listed in the church records (Saint Martins) but the Wilhelm I found
> that would have a birth date near mine died when he was 13 days old. Can you
> tell me where the other towns named Linden are located and I may be able to
> find Rohwolds there. Are they also in Hannover?
> 
> Rohwold is a very uncommon name and today there are only about 6 families in
> Germany with the name but have not been able to get any information from them.
> 
> Wilhelm also had a naturalization record but it said he received his
> naturalization from service in the Army but there is no service record.
> 
> The children listed on the LDS site are Elizabeth (my grandmother) and Sarah
> (Her sister). Both of their parents died when they were small so they did not
> have any information about them. They were orphans. Wilhelm and his wife are
> buried in GreenWood Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. I have not found a obit for
> either one of them. I believe her family all died before she did and I don't
> think he had family in the US. I do have a copy of a will for both Wilhelm and
> his wife Rebecca.
> 
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Re: [HN] Thanks for Help

Date: 2006/05/10 05:34:26
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Gerd,

This census?

1910 IL  DUPAGE  DOWNERS GROVE TWP
Series: T624  Roll: 285  Page: 75

Dwelling #267, Family#271
LAUING  D., age 69, farmer, year of immigration 1858/na.,, born Germany,
Annie - age 63, wife, 10 pregnancies, 8 living children...born Germany,
Albert - "" 23, son
Annie - "" 19. daughter

(For Annie does say she was born Germany but no immigration year listed.)
Would think year of immigration might vary from husb. D. Lauing if they married in Illinois 1866.

On this page are also:
Dwelling #266 Family#269
LAUING, William - head  age 63, farmer
Perhaps brother to D.?

This census appears to be D. Lauing and Anna Elfring/Elfing.

1870 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385b

LAUING, DEDRICK, Age: 30, Male, Born: HANO
LAUING, ANNA, Age: 33?, Female, Born: Illinois
LAUING, WM, Age 3,Male, Born: Illinois
LAUING, RICHARD, Age 2, Male, Born: Illinois

Wonder where this family is in 1880, 1900, 1920?

Did notice several Elfring males, various Illinois census' listed as being born Prussia.

Barbie-Lew

If I happen to run across surnames in one of the Illinois county histories with family biographies..I'll write.


















Hello "Cactus Flower",

thanks for your help, esp. the possible Elfring relations.
The Lauing branch is well known, because I have connections to the American relatives. And I found the German roots, for they didn't know.

The 1910 United States Federal Census shows, that Anna and her parents were born in Germany. So I hope, someone in Germany will know them. But there is no reaction. Better luck next time?
Best wishes to America,

Gerd (Lauing)

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[HN] Scheife

Date: 2006/05/10 05:38:01
From: Fred Rump <fredrump(a)earthlink.net>

Hello,   My name is Richard W. Scheife, I am 80 years old and live in
Jupiter Florida USA. I have been trying for a couple of years to find out
where my family origonated in Germany. I have not been very successful.
 
While checking Google again on "Name Scheife" , I ran across this listing
that showed you had the family name of Scheife as one you had information
on. I hope this is true. The name Wolfgang Ewig was shown along with
"hannover-Monatsdigest  2005-07.
 
My greatgrandfathers name was Carl Scheife born in 1823 and migrated to
America in mid- 1800s, He married, in Germany, Caroline Schumacher who was
born in 1833. They had two sons that I know of and I believe both were born
in Gemany. Their names were Lewis born in 1855, my grandfather and
Henry.That is about as much as what I know.
 
 I have had corresponse with two German men, Dr. Hanno Scheife from Hamburgh
Univ. and Mr. Lutz Scheife.  We are still trying to determine if we are
related. They believe the clan was from the pommeran area.
 
Hope infomation can be be obtained.
 
Thank You,
 
Richard W Scheife                                            E-mail Hello,
My name is Richard W. Scheife, I am 80 years old and live in Jupiter Florida
USA. I have been trying for a couple of years to find out where my family
origonated in Germany. I have not been very successful.
 
While checking Google again on "Name Scheife" , I ran across this listing
that showed you had the family name of Scheife as one you had information
on. I hope this is true. The name Wolfgang Ewig was shown along with
"hannover-Monatsdigest  2005-07.
 
My greatgrandfathers name was Carl Scheife born in 1823 and migrated to
America in mid- 1800s, He married, in Germany, Caroline Schumacher who was
born in 1833. They had two sons that I know of and I believe both were born
in Gemany. Their names were Lewis born in 1855, my grandfather and
Henry.That is about as much as what I know.
 
 I have had corresponse with two German men, Dr. Hanno Scheife from Hamburgh
Univ. and Mr. Lutz Scheife.  We are still trying to determine if we are
related. They believe the clan was from the pommeran area.
 
Hope infomation can be be obtained.
 
Thank You,
 
Richard W Scheife                                            E-mail
rwscheife(a)aol.com

===================================

See the below site for Scheife

www.wolfgang-ewig.de
 



Re: [HN] Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von Rautenberg

Date: 2006/05/10 08:21:52
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Guenter,

I'll take a little time and see if I can find Rautenberg of Ohio.

Quick search for name Rautenberg gives Logan County Illinois.. though not a Charles. An E.F.L Rauntenberg, who started a German newspaper called the Journal, which was sold and the purchasers of that paper merged it with the Volksblatt

Source:

Title: History of Logan County, Illinois : its past and present : containing a history of the county, its cities, towns, etc., a biographical directory of its citizens, war record of its volunteers in the late rebellion, portraits of its early settlers and prominent men, general and local statistics, history of the Northwest, history of Illinois, Constitution of the United States, map of Logan County, miscellaneous matters, etc., etc.

City of Publication:  Chicago

Publisher:  Donnelley, Loyd & Co.

Date:  1878

Page Count:  565

Page 281

Haven't come across Charles A. Rautenberg so far. Tell me variations of spelling and other names associated with Rautenberg. What was Charles dad's name?

Barbie-Lew

Hello Barbie
The Rautenberg families indexed in your sources, could any of them be Charles A Rautenberg of Toledo, OH, ? He was a musician, came here in 1864 with his mother Elizabeth, nee Hollman, father's name Christ, although I never did find him in the USA, and it appears that his mother remarried. Charles married Ella Hanlon, nee Shinaver, in 1902 in Toledo, her 3rd marriage. He died after 1922.
Guenter in Michigan

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Cactus Flower" <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

> Hallo,
>
> Any of your Familie Rautenberg in the U.S.? Have come across Rautenberg
> while perusing midwestern county histories.
>
> Barbie-Lew
>
> Hallo Liebe Listenteilnehmer,
> ich bin auf der suche nach der Ahnentafel der Familie Rautenberg / von
> Rautenberg aus dem Gebiet um Hildesheim.
>
> Ist jemandem bekannt wo diese zu finden ist? Ob Museum oder so?
>
> Grüße
> Sebastian
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[HN] ELFRING

Date: 2006/05/10 08:38:11
From: Gerd Lauing <Lauing.Gerd(a)t-online.de>

Dear Barbie,

thanks for your reply. I see, I didn't say you, that I'm member of ancestry.com. So I know the census records. And I have good connections with Shannon, she knows a lot of Lauing history. Besides, we will have family reunion this year.
Our ancestor "Johann Diederich" came as stowed away in 1848 to America. Than he was soldier in Civil War, he is told to be one of the people who caught J. W. Booth.

"Cactus Flower" <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com> schrieb:
> Dear Gerd,
> 
> This census?
> 
> 1910 IL  DUPAGE  DOWNERS GROVE TWP
> Series: T624  Roll: 285  Page: 75
> 
> Dwelling #267, Family#271

Yes I know.
Marriage was Illinois, but the first child was born in MS. Thereafter they moved to IL, various places. Last benefit: Belmont, IL.

> Dwelling #266 Family#269
> LAUING, William - head  age 63, farmer
> Perhaps brother to D.?

No he isn't. The siblings of J. D. are well known from German parish-registers.

> ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
> Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385b
> 
> LAUING, DEDRICK, Age: 30, Male, Born: HANO
> LAUING, ANNA, Age: 33?, Female, Born: Illinois (other lists show GERMANY)
> LAUING, W(illia)M, Age 3,Male, Born: Illinois
> LAUING, RICHARD, Age 2, Male, Born: Illinois
> 
> Wonder where this family is in 1880, 1900, 1920?

1871 they were in MS, later in IL, the stations are well known from Shannon.

> Did notice several Elfring males, various Illinois census' listed as being 
> born Prussia.
> 
> Barbie-Lew
> 
> If I happen to run across surnames in one of the Illinois county histories 
> with family biographies..I'll write.

Thank you for your help, once again.

Gerd (Lauing)



Re: [HN] ELFRING

Date: 2006/05/10 11:38:05
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Gerd,

I wonder if a cousin perhaps. He is on same census page as D. and Anna in 1910.

The Johan Diedrich Lauing listered in Addison Twsp burial data doesn't appear to be same person as the D. Lauing in 1910. Do you think the J. D. Lauing buried 1865 wife was named Margaret Anna Dierkes?..

Barbie-Lew


Dear Barbie,

thanks for your reply. I see, I didn't say you, that I'm member of ancestry.com. So I know the census records. And I have good connections with Shannon, she knows a lot of Lauing history. Besides, we will have family reunion this year.

Our ancestor "Johann Diederich" came as stowed away in 1848 to America. Than he was soldier in Civil War, he is told to be one of the people who caught J. W. Booth.

"Cactus Flower" <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com> schrieb:
> Dear Gerd,
>
> This census?
>
> 1910 IL  DUPAGE  DOWNERS GROVE TWP
> Series: T624  Roll: 285  Page: 75
>
> Dwelling #267, Family#271

Yes I know.
Marriage was Illinois, but the first child was born in MS. Thereafter they moved to IL, various places. Last benefit: Belmont, IL.

> Dwelling #266 Family#269
> LAUING, William - head  age 63, farmer
> Perhaps brother to D.?

No he isn't. The siblings of J. D. are well known from German parish-registers.
-------------------------------------------------
I wonder if a cousin perhaps. He is on same census page as D. and Anna in 1910.

The Johan Diedrich Lauing listered in Addison Twsp burial data doesn't appear to be same person as the D. Lauing in 1910. Do you think the J. D. Lauing buried 1865 wife was named Margaret Anna Dierkes?..

Barbie-Lew






> ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
> Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385b
>
> LAUING, DEDRICK, Age: 30, Male, Born: HANO
> LAUING, ANNA, Age: 33?, Female, Born: Illinois (other lists show GERMANY)
> LAUING, W(illia)M, Age 3,Male, Born: Illinois
> LAUING, RICHARD, Age 2, Male, Born: Illinois
>
> Wonder where this family is in 1880, 1900, 1920?

1871 they were in MS, later in IL, the stations are well known from Shannon.

> Did notice several Elfring males, various Illinois census' listed as being
> born Prussia.
>
> Barbie-Lew
>
> If I happen to run across surnames in one of the Illinois county histories
> with family biographies..I'll write.

Thank you for your help, once again.

Gerd (Lauing)


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[HN] Ahlbrecht

Date: 2006/05/10 13:44:40
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Ich suche Eltern von Margaretha Ahlbrecht, * um 1657, ++ 28-4-1695 in Holtensen ( bei Göttingen), verh. mit Jost Wisseler sen.

Re: [HN] Scheife

Date: 2006/05/10 18:17:12
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Richard,
      The LDS has this listing for Carl Scheife:

CARL WILHELM SCHEIFE

Birth: 20 APR 1823 
Christening: 
27 APR 1823      Kratzig Koeslin, Pommern, PreussenDeath: 
Parents:
     Father:     JOHANN LUDWIG SCHEIFE
     Mother:     MARIE ELIES REICHOWEN


This could be the father of Carl:

JOHANN LUDWIG SCHEIFE         
Birth: 
08 OCT 1787  Christening: 
14 OCT 1787      Kratzig Koeslin, Pommern, PreussenDeath:  
Parents:
     Father:     CHRISTIAN FRIEDRICH SCHEIFE
     Mother:     EVA ELISABETH TONNEN      

If you run a search on the LDS www.familysearch.org - put in only the name
and  you will find many entries for Scheife.  There are also many Reichow
and Reichowen.  It looks as though all the records from that town have been
put on the LDS website.  There are listings also from other other towns in
Pommern  that have those names.

If you wish to see the original records:
   
The LDS page shows this for  Kratzig Koeslin:
Kirchenbuch, 1752-1866  Evangelische Kirche Kratzig (Kr. Köslin)
Kirchenbuchduplikat Bitziker, Kratzig, Kothlow und Nassow, 1588-1751
 Evangelische Kirche Kratzig (Kr. Köslin)
Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1794-1874  Evangelische Kirche Kratzig (Kr. Köslin)
Parish register printouts of Kratzig Köslin, Pommern, Prussia ; births,
1752-1860  Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical Society

If you are near a LDS center, you can order these records on microfilm and
view them there.  

Good luck!
Barbara


on 5/9/06 9:37 PM, Fred Rump at fredrump(a)earthlink.net wrote:

> Hello,   My name is Richard W. Scheife, I am 80 years old and live in
> Jupiter Florida USA. I have been trying for a couple of years to find out
> where my family origonated in Germany. I have not been very successful.
> 
> While checking Google again on "Name Scheife" , I ran across this listing
> that showed you had the family name of Scheife as one you had information
> on. I hope this is true. The name Wolfgang Ewig was shown along with
> "hannover-Monatsdigest  2005-07.
> 
> My greatgrandfathers name was Carl Scheife born in 1823 and migrated to
> America in mid- 1800s, He married, in Germany, Caroline Schumacher who was
> born in 1833. They had two sons that I know of and I believe both were born
> in Gemany. Their names were Lewis born in 1855, my grandfather and
> Henry.That is about as much as what I know.
> 
> I have had corresponse with two German men, Dr. Hanno Scheife from Hamburgh
> Univ. and Mr. Lutz Scheife.  We are still trying to determine if we are
> related. They believe the clan was from the pommeran area.
> 
> Hope infomation can be be obtained.
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Richard W Scheife                                            E-mail Hello,
> My name is Richard W. Scheife, I am 80 years old and live in Jupiter Florida
> USA. I have been trying for a couple of years to find out where my family
> origonated in Germany. I have not been very successful.
> 
> While checking Google again on "Name Scheife" , I ran across this listing
> that showed you had the family name of Scheife as one you had information
> on. I hope this is true. The name Wolfgang Ewig was shown along with
> "hannover-Monatsdigest  2005-07.
> 
> My greatgrandfathers name was Carl Scheife born in 1823 and migrated to
> America in mid- 1800s, He married, in Germany, Caroline Schumacher who was
> born in 1833. They had two sons that I know of and I believe both were born
> in Gemany. Their names were Lewis born in 1855, my grandfather and
> Henry.That is about as much as what I know.
> 
> I have had corresponse with two German men, Dr. Hanno Scheife from Hamburgh
> Univ. and Mr. Lutz Scheife.  We are still trying to determine if we are
> related. They believe the clan was from the pommeran area.
> 
> Hope infomation can be be obtained.
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Richard W Scheife                                            E-mail
> rwscheife(a)aol.com
> 
> ===================================
> 
> See the below site for Scheife
> 
> www.wolfgang-ewig.de
> 
> 
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[HN] The story of the Linen

Date: 2006/05/10 18:31:34
From: Mangold & Dittes <mangolddittes(a)comcast.net>

Dear Listers

There is a family story about how my great grandparents left Germany by ship from Bremen in 1889. My great grandmother was a weaver of linen. According to the story she brought several lengths of linen with her on the ship to America by wrapping it around her body, hiding it under her skirts.

Can anyone suggest why this was necessary? Was there a prohibition against taking linen out of the country in 1889? Or, was it that families were limited on the amount of baggage they could carry on board the ship? Or, was it that their trunk and boxes were full and this was a last minute decision by my great grandmother to take her precious linen with her?

Thanks for your help with this puzzle.

Myra
Seattle, Washington


Re: [HN] Rohwold

Date: 2006/05/10 18:38:42
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

"janet henriksen" <janjans(a)hughes.net> schrieb:
>
> I do believe I have the right Linden because there are several Rohwold families listed in the church records (Saint Martins) but the Wilhelm I found that would have a birth date near mine died when he was 13 days old. Can you tell me where the other towns named Linden are located and I may be able to find Rohwolds there. Are they also in Hannover?
> 
> Rohwold is a very uncommon name and today there are only about 6 families in Germany with the name but have not been able to get any information from them. 

Hello Janet Henriksen,

the name isn't as seldom as you think, if you take into consideration, that there might have been changes in writing. Specially the "h" even in modern times was often thrown out of words if not accentuated. For example "Hut", which means "hat" was written earlier as "Huth". there are more examples. So, if you leave out of ROHWOLD the "h" you get ROWOLD. In the common telephone directory for Hannover and Linden are given in 1998

- ROWOLD, Gerda u. FRITZSCHE, Peter, Blumhardthof 7, 30625 Hannover, Tel. 0511 552256
- ROWOLD, Gerda, Frisurenstudio, marktstr. 45, 30159 hannover, Tel. 0511 3632000
- ROWOLD, Günter, Lebensm., Uhlhornstr. 1, 30625 Hannover, Tel. 0511 552491 
- ROWOLD, Herbert, Friseurmstr., Gernsstr. 13, 30659 Hannover, Tel. 0511 6476375

But even other writings of the name are given as ROWOHLT, ROWOLDT, ROWOLT, ROHWOLT, ROHWOLDT.
The meaning of the name should be always the same, thatwhy all writings and readings are very close to each other. 

Linden as a place in Lower Saxony:

Only three out of totaally 60 Linden are given as part of other towns inside Lower-Saxony.
1. Linden as part of Hannover city, 2. Linden as part of Schwienau nearby Uelzen, very little none of the name variations is given in 1998, 3. Linden as part of 38800 Wolfenbüttel, you will find about three ROWOLD in Linden as part of 38300 Wolfenbüttel, but no ROHWOLD.

Best wishes and good luck with Wolfenbüttel

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

[HN] Otte - Gross marriage, circa 1835, Baccum?

Date: 2006/05/10 19:01:06
From: Joan Carlson <carlsonjm(a)hotmail.com>

I am searching for the marriage and parents of Jacob Otte and Geertruida Gross, whose son may have been born in the Baccum area in 1837. I have searched http://www.online-ofb.de/ with no luck. I would appreciate any further advice.

Thank you.

Joan



[HN] Surnames

Date: 2006/05/11 04:26:03
From: bobbidoll <bobbidoll(a)myway.com>

Hi Hans Peter Albers,

I noticed your post where you speak of surnames.  I was hoping that you might give me some input on one of mine.  

My grandmother was born in Saxony (I know it is not in Hannover.)  Her maiden name was Theussert, sometimes given as Theusser/Teusser by other family members.  I have looked in the German phone book.  The name seems to have disappeared.  On the LDS familysearch.org I found 1 Theussert, not of the same area.  (The listings on Ancestry.com are my family.)

Do you have any idea what the name might have changed into?

Thank you for your time.

Bobbi



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[HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/11 05:20:37
From: FSAFlowers <FSAFlowers(a)aol.com>

Hello,
 
Is anybody out there related to the Barenkamp family?  They came from  the 
Hannover area and traveled to New Orleans in the early 1800s.  
 
Anna Catherine Barenkamp married James Clement Kathmann in New Orleans  about 
1840.  Her sisters were named Theresa and Regina.  I believe she  had a 
brother named Frank, also.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Suzanne

Re: [HN] Surnames THEUSSERT,

Date: 2006/05/11 06:48:08
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

"bobbidoll" <bobbidoll(a)myway.com> schrieb:
> 
> Hi Hans Peter Albers,
> 
> I noticed your post where you speak of surnames.  I was hoping that you might give me some input on one of mine.  
> 
> My grandmother was born in Saxony (I know it is not in Hannover.)  Her maiden name was Theussert, sometimes given as Theusser/Teusser by other family members.  I have looked in the German phone book.  The name seems to have disappeared.  On the LDS familysearch.org I found 1 Theussert, not of the same area.  (The listings on Ancestry.com are my family.)
> 
> Do you have any idea what the name might have changed into?
> 
> Thank you for your time.
> 
> Bobbi

Hi Bobbi,

found also no one with exactly that writing THEUSSERT. There are lots of THEUS, especially in North-Rhine-Westfalia and a larger centre in Berlin and THEUSSEN in a special area in North-Rhine-Westfalia, which do have the same stem. THEUSSERT may also be derived from THEUS and the ending may be formed in the sense of "one of these THEUSS people". Another possibility maybe a transforming of the "e" out of the umlaut "ae", Then you might look for example for TÄUSCHERT or TAUSCHERT. Without the last "t" there are about 850 TAUSCHER, with the "ending-T" only one in 1998: TAUSCHERT, Betti, Gaudystr.16, 12167 Berlin, Tel. 030 4491319. Perhaps you might also look for the 11 given THÄUSER in 1998. Maybe it is already a bit to far away, but going only by hearing, THEUSSER(T) might be even once transformed out of the French TOUSSAINT into some German writing. TOUISSANT can be found as a meanwhile "German" name about 400 times in the directory. There were a lot of French soldiers in the country at a time, when a lot of mothers, who could not read or write, got children ...

Hope that gives at least some ideas, to what look for more. First of all should be in any case to try to trace back your anchestor directly in Saxony. If there was a change in name reading and writing, it should be documented there.

[HN] Ahlborn-Lutze

Date: 2006/05/11 08:56:40
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
Ich suche ergänzende Daten und Eltern von: Andreas Ahlborn * ca 1632, ++ 4-2-1717 in Holtensen bei Göttingen er heiratete am 13-11-1677 in Holtensen: Margaretha Lutze * um 1646, ++ 30-11-1738 in Holtensen, ihr Stiefvater war Wilhelm Bethen.
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/11 09:59:08
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

There is a Barenkamp concentration in the Lingen area, now Emsland county.
The emigration book of the former county "Kreis Lingen" (catholic area) listed some Barenkamp, but not Anna Catherine.
It could be this:

Maria Catharina Barenkamp, born 31.Jan.1819 in Gross-Bawinkel, parish Bawinkel,
emigrated 1937.
Parents: Farmer Joan Hermann Barenkamp - Ana Maria Tebben.

Kathmann is a name of the catholic area Vechta in the Oldenburg province.

I hope it helps,
Werner Honkomp

> Hello,

> Is anybody out there related to the Barenkamp family?  They came from  the
> Hannover area and traveled to New Orleans in the early 1800s.

> Anna Catherine Barenkamp married James Clement Kathmann in New Orleans
> about
> 1840.  Her sisters were named Theresa and Regina.  I believe she  had a
> brother named Frank, also.

> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> Suzanne
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[HN] Heise/ Jeep aus Esebeck/ Knutbühren bei G öttingen

Date: 2006/05/11 11:35:52
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
Ich suche weitere Daten und Vorfahren von: Hans Heise, * um 1626 in Esebeck, + 14-8-1699 in Esebeck, Beruf: Halbmeier, er heiratete am 23-02-1658 in Esebeck: Catharina Jeep, * um 1625 in Knutbühren, + 20-3-1692 in Esebeck
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

Re: [HN] Fw: [Hannover-l] Zivildienst während der Militärzeit.

Date: 2006/05/11 14:27:22
From: Jürgen Schweimler <schweimler(a)tiscali.de>

Sehr geehrter Herr Schwenke!

Ich danke Ihnen für Ihre interessanten und ausführlichen Hinweise.Es könnte ähnlich auch bei meinem Urgroßvater so gewesen sein. Er hatte auch in seiner 20 jährigen Dienstzeit zweimal gegen Entgeld als Stellvertreter für einen Wehrpflichtigen fungiert. Einmal für einen Gastwirtssohn und dann für den Sohn eines adeligen Bürgermeisters. Ob der Direktor der Saline ein ehemaliger Offizier war, müßte ich eigentlich einmal prüfen.Wär ja interessant zu wissen.

Freundliche Grüße

Jürgen Schweimler

PS.: Ich hatte Ihnen vor längerer Zeit meine jüngsten Forschungsergebnisse zu den Schwenkes im Raum Lauenstein, Liebstadt, Döbra,Löwenhain,Geising übermittelt. Sie wollten mir Ihre Stellungnahme dazu mitteilen.
Hatten Sie schon Gelegenheit, sich damit zu befassen?

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Hallo Herr Schweimler !
Aus dem Berufsweg eines Verwandten 1880 bis 1965 kann ich Parallelen
aufzeigen.
Mit den Dienstantritt eines länger dienenden Soldaten (so genannte
Zwölfender, 12 Jahre verpflichtet) war der Soldat in Staatsobhut. Vor Ablauf der Dienstzeit konnte der Versorgungsanwärter an einer Armeeschule sich ausbilden lassen.
Die Möglichkeit konnte je nach Ausbildungslänge des später vorgesehenen
Dienstes, in der laufenden Dienstzeit
genutzt werden. Diese Einrichtungen waren zumeist im Bereich der Garnison.
Mein Ahne, hatte eine Landwirtschaftschule besucht und damit den Abschluss
als Verwalter eines Staatlichen Gut erworben.
Da Hitler die Macht übernahm, wurde die Weiterverwendung den staatlichen
Interessen angepaßt.Die vorgesehene Verwalterstelle war noch nicht frei, Sodas er
die Wahl hatte
als Grenzbeamter, Justizbeamter, Postbeamter oder beim Postschutz (Polizei)
tätig zu werden. Er hat sich dann für die Post entschieden die seiner Familie auch eine Wohnung anbot. Eine andere Kuriosität war die Eheerlaubniß. Der Ahne war in Hameln stationiert und lernte dort seine spätere Frau kennen. Er durfte
erst heiraten als er  einen Dienstgrad erreichte, in dem die
Familienversorgung eingeschlossen war. Darauf hat er dann fast 5 Jahre warten müssen.
Das war auch die Zeit als er die Schulung hatte. In der Zeit wurde er auch
für Praktikum freigestellt, was Bestandteil der schulischen Ausbildung war. So nahm er statt an den üblichen Sommermanövern, an Ernteeinsätze auf staatlichen
Gütern teil, wo er auf Domänen die Organisation der Ernte leitete.
Dann bestand noch eine weitere Sonderregelung. Man konnte sich nach Ablauf
der offiziellen Dienstzeit für einen zum Wehrdienst ausgehobenen Rekruten
verpflichten, dessen Dienstzeit zu übernehmen.Dafür gab es offiziell eine Geldwerte
Entschädigung, die aber oft von den Vater des Betroffenen , erheblich
aufgestockt wurde, es gab auch Naturalleistungen, wenn der Soldat verlobt oder verheiratet war, profitierte die Frau durch einen Arbeitsplatz oder eine Wohnung.Da waren die Kaufleute sehr erfinderisch, wenn nur der liebe Junior nicht dienen
brauchte.
Nun muss man auch bedenken, das diese "Alten Herren" wie man sie in der
Soldatensprache nannte,wußten wohin der Hase lief. Lange Dienstzeit, tätig als Ausbilder und länger bei der Truppe als mancher Offizier, war es der Stamm der
Armee. Das wussten diese "Alten Herren"
mit Inanspruchnahme mancher Freiheit, zu nutzen.
Das als Beispiel. Ich kann mir für ihren Fall folgendes erklären. Ihr Ahne
hat sich sicherlich weiterverpflichtet und die Zeit genutzt um für seine Zukunft
zu sorgen. Also eine Staatliche Ausbildung aufgenommen. Sicherlich geschult
als Verwaltungsbeamter, wird er in der staatlichen Saline ein
Praktikum/Ausbíldung gemacht haben. Da er einer der "Alten Herren" war, also mindestens 12 Ender, hat er oder seine Ausbilder, eventuell auch zukünftige Vorgesetzte, einen
Weg gefunden haben das er dort ausgebildet wurde..
Da war Kameradschaft üblich. Was, wenn einer seiner Offiziere, nach deren
begrenzten Dienstzeit, ein Direktor dieser Einrichtung war. Dann war dieser doch
sehr interessiert einen guten, zuverlässigen Kammeraden den Posten zu geben,
denn dieser war von da an sein treuer Untergebener.
Damit möchte ich es bewenden lassen, ich hätte da noch eine Menge mehr
Eigenarten vorzutragen. Aber ich denke, das Sie die Eigenart der Tätigkeit nun
einschätzen können.
Es war mit Sicherheit alles hoch offiziell und auch zum Wohle, nicht nur des
Vaterlandes.
Vergessen Sie nicht den Soldaten Schweik, davon gab es in der Armee eine
große Zahl.
MfG
Schwenke Archiv
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[HN] Entfesslungskünstler und Knotenlöser ( =Fw: [bavaria-L] Namensliste)

Date: 2006/05/11 17:15:27
From: the <the(a)vestner.net>

Lieber Empfänger,

danke fürs Lesen. Manchmal bringts was die Rund zu erweitern, manchmal nicht.
Melden Sie sich doch direkt bei Frau Grieder. Sie wird sich freuen.

Viel Erfolg und nette Grüsse,
Peter Vestner

Weltweite Sippenforschung seit 1993
http://www.FESTNER.net
[inkl. FAESSNER, FECTNER, FESNER, FESSNER, FESTNER, FOESSNER, VOESTNER usw.]

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Subject: [bavaria-L] Namensliste
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:27:45 +0200 (MEST)


[HN] Ernst aus Sieboldshausen

Date: 2006/05/11 18:21:18
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Ich suche nach weiteren Daten von: Jacob Ernst, * um 1620, + nach 15-11-1681 in Sieboldshausenbei Göttingen.
Wer war seine Frau und wer sind seine Eltern?
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.


Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/11 18:47:10
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Suzanne,
       
       On castlegarden.org (ship lists) there is a listing in 1837, Ship
Anna, for M.C. Barenkamp, age 18, female. No other Barenkamp at the same
time. Other Barenkamps arrived in different years. Four of them are women,
but not the names you mention. If you go to that website and run a search on
the name Barenkamp, you will see the others arriving in different years.  I
thought your Anna Catherine may be Anna Maria Catherine Barenkamp, and she
dropped the Maria.

      Were your family Catholic? I have found Barenkamp in some Catholic
records I have.  Not Anna Catherine directly however. This would be in the
area called Emsland, close to the Ems river.

      If you run a search here, you will find many Barenkamps from Baccum.
That is near Lingen, that Werner Honkamp mentioned.

   http://meta.genealogy.net/metasuche/index.jsp

      The emigration lists for Osnabrück list these people, but not your
Anna Catherine.  They are all from Baccum.

   Barenkamp, Bernard Gerhard Henrich    16923
   Barenkamp, Bernhard Gerhard Henrich    16924
   Barenkamp, Bernhard Gerhard Henrich    16925
   Barenkamp, Margaretha Aleid    16950
   Barenkamp, ohne Vorn., männl.    16922

Good luck to you!
Barbara
       




on 5/10/06 9:13 PM, FSAFlowers(a)aol.com at FSAFlowers(a)aol.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Is anybody out there related to the Barenkamp family?  They came from  the
> Hannover area and traveled to New Orleans in the early 1800s.
> 
> Anna Catherine Barenkamp married James Clement Kathmann in New Orleans  about
> 1840.  Her sisters were named Theresa and Regina.  I believe she  had a
> brother named Frank, also.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> Suzanne
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[HN] Zufallsfund Schumacher/ Wiechmann Asendorf

Date: 2006/05/12 00:03:33
From: Sebastian Rautenberg <basti(a)sera-online.net>

Hallo...
grade in einer Ausgabe des Hoyaer Wochenblatt vom 03.September 1939 gefunden:

Stebeanzeige:

Meta Schumacher 
 verw. Wiechmann 
starb am 03.09.1936 im Alter von 48 Jahren nach langer Krankheit. Betrauert von Heinrich Schumacher Heinrich Wiechmann und Johann Wiechmann.

Vielleicht kanns jemand gebrauchen
Grüße
Sebastian

[HN] Castlegarden - Easy Search

Date: 2006/05/12 06:46:44
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear List,

I recently discovered:

http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html

Neat thing about this tool is that once you find the suspected ship arrival for your ancestor....

Try using this tool to search year (ex. 1860-1860) + ship name only.

And browse the shplist of your ancestor and possibly find lateral connections.......or perhaps a relative whose name was massacred .....though pay attention to dates..ship may have traveled back and forth more than one time in a single year.

Barbie

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Re: [HN] Castlegarden - Easy Search

Date: 2006/05/12 07:08:39
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Listies,

Once you locate that possible ship...

You can also try searching year + ship + First letter of last name...A, B, or C. or go through entire alphabet...as the site can only show limited number of results per search...

Finding lateral connections might be useful in that if your ancestors place of origin is not listed..perhaps there is lateral relative or even a neighbor who traveled that ship that settled in the same neighborhood as your ancestor..Perhaps they knew each other in Germany. Perhaps they may have come for same or nearby town.

There were many who immigrated in groups.

I think good possibility that my immigrant ancestor knew at least one person on the ship he arrived on that was from his home area.



Barbie-Lew







Dear List,

I recently discovered:

http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html

Neat thing about this tool is that once you find the suspected ship arrival for your ancestor....

Try using this tool to search year (ex. 1860-1860) + ship name only.

And browse the shiplist of your ancestor and possibly find lateral connections.......or perhaps a relative whose name was massacred .....though pay attention to dates..ship may have traveled back and forth more than one time in a single year.

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[HN] Entfesslungskünstler und Knotenlöser (i nkl. zuvor abgeschnittene Namensliste)

Date: 2006/05/12 13:29:00
From: the <the(a)vestner.net>

Lieber Empfänger,

danke fürs Lesen. Manchmal bringts was die Runde zu erweitern, manchmal nicht.
Melden Sie sich doch direkt bei Frau Grieder. Sie wird sich freuen.

Viel Erfolg und nette Grüsse,
Peter Vestner

Weltweite Sippenforschung seit 1993
http://www.FESTNER.net
[inkl. FAESSNER, FECTNER, FESNER, FESSNER, FESTNER, FOESSNER, VOESTNER usw.]


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Subject: [bavaria-L] Namensliste
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:27:45 +0200 (MEST)


Liebe Listenteilnehmer,

nach längerer Zeit des Mitlesens möchte ich wieder einmal meine
gesuchten Namen/Orte vorstellen. Vielleicht ergeben sich neue
Anknüpfungspunkte.

Holzapfel     Wolfersdorf, Nörting, Wippenhausen und Umgebung
Kressierer    Oberappersdorf und Umgebung
Ehrmeier      Dellnhausen
Menzinger     Gebrontshausen
Mittermaier   Hörgertshausen
Brandl        Landshut, Eichendorf
Frammelsberger Eichendorf, Galgweis
Koppelstetter  Baumgarten bei Arnstorf, Eichendorf
Kettl         Winklarn b. Osterhofen
Wimmer        Vilsbiburg
Grasberger    Panzing/Gangkofen
Koller        Hamberg, Oberpfalz
Vestner       Herrnried/Parsberg,
Frauenknecht  Herrnried, Bischberg Opf.
Döbler        Schwäb. Gmünd


Mit freundlichen Grüssen aus Basel
Johanna Grieder


Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/13 01:07:20
From: FSAFlowers <FSAFlowers(a)aol.com>

Hello Barbara,
 
Thank you so much for your help.  
 
I'm working on the Barenkamps for a family friend of mine.  
 
Her mother's birth name was Marie Catherine Kathman (born 1902).   Little 
Marie and her older brother Louis William Kathman were orphaned when  their 
mother (only known as Mary E.) died about 1908 in Memphis,  Tennessee.  Their 
father had been killed a few years earlier.
 
Marie was adopted by a family there in Memphis, and Louis was adopted by  
somebody else.  Marie's grown daughter (my friend, who is now 71 years old)  has 
wanted to know about her mom Marie's biological background for many  years.  
Back when Marie was coming up, people did not talk about the  biological 
background of adopted children.  So unfortunately Marie always  felt like there was 
something "bad" about her background.
 
Through much hard work and digging, we have discovered that Marie's (and  
brother Louis) parents were Louis William Kathman and Mary E. ?  from the  1900 
Lowndes Co. Mississippi census.  
 
This Louis William Kathman was the last child born to James Clement Kathman  
and Catherine Barenkamp of New Orleans.  He was born in Sept. of 1860 in  New 
Orleans.  
 
So that's the Barenkamp connection here.
 
Through working on this case for my friend, I have come to learn so much  
about early 20th century adoptions.  I am just an amateur who wanted to  help out 
a friend.  
 
Yes, I think both the Barenkamps and Kathmanns were Catholic.  James  Clement 
Kathman is buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2 there in New  Orleans.  His 
wife Catherine Barenkamp was not.  We don't know where  she is buried yet.  
 
James Clement Kathman and wife Catherine Barenkamp ran a boarding and  coffee 
house with some 72 guests in New Orleans according to the 1860  census.  
 
Again, I appreciate your help!!
 
Suzanne

Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/13 01:08:50
From: FSAFlowers <FSAFlowers(a)aol.com>

Hello Werner,
 
Thank you so much for this information.  
 
I just sent a reply addressed to Barbara on the mailing list.  It's a  long 
one, but it explains how I came to be involved in researching this  family.
 
Again, I appreciate your help so much!
 
Suzanne

Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/13 05:42:25
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi,
    That is indeed an interesting  story.  It is kind of you to try to find
information on that family.

    The problem with learning a lot about the family from Germany is that
the particular area where they likely came from has not allowed the LDS to
copy their church records.  There is an office in Meppen in the Osnabrück
Catholic diocese where they have church records.  If your friend merely
wants to know the birthplace, it likely would not cost so much.  To do a
whole family tree search would add to the cost.  Here it is:

http://www.KGVerband-Meppen.de/familienforschung.html

    The page is in German - you can get a rough translation by using
Google's translation page:

   http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

    Basically it says you can come to that office to do research or you can
have them do it at the rate of 16 euros per hour.  I would guess that  the
people there would have a pretty good idea of where to find those names and
could do it rather quickly.  If what your friend merely wants to know the
birthplaces of her family, this might be a good source.

   Have you used this genealogy source?
  http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/newsearch.htm

   I searched there and chose Louisiana.  There were 10 records for
Barenkamp and 73 for Kathmann. A search in Tenn. and Mississippi did not
produce very much.  I would guess that some Kathmanns dropped the second
"n". 

  I'll be thinking of other places to look as well.

Barbara





on 5/12/06 5:07 PM, FSAFlowers(a)aol.com at FSAFlowers(a)aol.com wrote:

> Hello Barbara,
> 
> Thank you so much for your help.
> 
> I'm working on the Barenkamps for a family friend of mine.
> 
> Her mother's birth name was Marie Catherine Kathman (born 1902).   Little
> Marie and her older brother Louis William Kathman were orphaned when  their
> mother (only known as Mary E.) died about 1908 in Memphis,  Tennessee.  Their
> father had been killed a few years earlier.
> 
> Marie was adopted by a family there in Memphis, and Louis was adopted by
> somebody else.  Marie's grown daughter (my friend, who is now 71 years old)
> has 
> wanted to know about her mom Marie's biological background for many  years.
> Back when Marie was coming up, people did not talk about the  biological
> background of adopted children.  So unfortunately Marie always  felt like
> there was 
> something "bad" about her background.
> 
> Through much hard work and digging, we have discovered that Marie's (and
> brother Louis) parents were Louis William Kathman and Mary E. ?  from the
> 1900 
> Lowndes Co. Mississippi census.
> 
> This Louis William Kathman was the last child born to James Clement Kathman
> and Catherine Barenkamp of New Orleans.  He was born in Sept. of 1860 in  New
> Orleans.  
> 
> So that's the Barenkamp connection here.
> 
> Through working on this case for my friend, I have come to learn so much
> about early 20th century adoptions.  I am just an amateur who wanted to  help
> out 
> a friend.  
> 
> Yes, I think both the Barenkamps and Kathmanns were Catholic.  James  Clement
> Kathman is buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2 there in New  Orleans.  His
> wife Catherine Barenkamp was not.  We don't know where  she is buried yet.
> 
> James Clement Kathman and wife Catherine Barenkamp ran a boarding and  coffee
> house with some 72 guests in New Orleans according to the 1860  census.
> 
> Again, I appreciate your help!!
> 
> Suzanne
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Re: [HN] Surnames THEUSSERT,

Date: 2006/05/14 03:19:55
From: bobbidoll <bobbidoll(a)myway.com>


Hi Hans Peter Albers,

Thank you so much for your reply.  I would like to think that the family hasn't completely died out.  I will look further into the place where my grandmother was born.

Bobbi


 --- On Wed 05/10,  < 320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de > wrote:
From:  [mailto: 320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de]
To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Date: 11 May 2006 03:40 GMT
Subject: Re: [HN] Surnames THEUSSERT,

Hi Bobbi,

found also no one with exactly that writing THEUSSERT. There are lots of THEUS, especially in North-Rhine-Westfalia and a larger centre in Berlin and THEUSSEN in a special area in North-Rhine-Westfalia, which do have the same stem. THEUSSERT may also be derived from THEUS and the ending may be formed in the sense of "one of these THEUSS people". Another possibility maybe a transforming of the "e" out of the umlaut "ae", Then you might look for example for TÄUSCHERT or TAUSCHERT. Without the last "t" there are about 850 TAUSCHER, with the "ending-T" only one in 1998: TAUSCHERT, Betti, Gaudystr.16, 12167 Berlin, Tel. 030 4491319. Perhaps you might also look for the 11 given THÄUSER in 1998. Maybe it is already a bit to far away, but going only by hearing, THEUSSER(T) might be even once transformed out of the French TOUSSAINT into some German writing. TOUISSANT can be found as a meanwhile "German" name about 400 times in the directory. There were a lot of French soldiers in the 
country at a time, when a lot of mothers, who could not read or write, got children ...

Hope that gives at least some ideas, to what look for more. First of all should be in any case to try to trace back your anchestor directly in Saxony. If there was a change in name reading and writing, it should be documented there. 


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[HN] Hafertepe

Date: 2006/05/14 14:35:44
From: paula schwartz <oomis(a)centurytel.net>

I am researching the Hafertepe family. Bernard Heinrich and Gehrend (probably spelled incorrectly)Hafertepe immigrated to St. Louis, Mo. Some people believe the story begins in Hannover with one family. Maybe spelled Hafertepen or ? Any suggestions or directions would be very appreciated. Thank You ...........Paula


Re: [HN] Hafertepe

Date: 2006/05/14 17:24:12
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

"paula schwartz" <oomis(a)centurytel.net> schrieb:
> I am researching the Hafertepe family.  Bernard Heinrich and Gehrend 
> (probably spelled incorrectly)Hafertepe immigrated to St. Louis, Mo.  
> Some people believe the story begins in Hannover with one family.  Maybe 
> spelled Hafertepen or ?  Any suggestions or directions would be very 
> appreciated. Thank You ...........Paula

Hello Paula Schwartz,

there are 4 enties HAFERTEPE in 1998, so the name is given and not needable wrong, mispelled or -written. Here they are, by the way all places are still in Lower-Saxony or former Kingdom of Hannover, but all very nearby the border to North-Rhine-Westfalia:

- HAFERTEPE, Bernhard, Exterbrock 40, 49124 Georgsmarienhütte, Tel. 05421 40594
- HAFERTEPE, Doris und Ralf, Im Dreskamp 1a, 49170 Hagen, Tel. 05401 98160
- HAFERTEPE, Leo, Prozessionsweg 3, 49586 Merzen, Tel. 05466 1337
- HAFERTEPE, Otto, Landw., 49586 Merzen, Tel. 05466 1256

Good luck in your research   Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel


[HN] Ludewig/Beermann

Date: 2006/05/14 19:56:15
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
Ich suche nähere Daten zu :Valentin Ludewig, * um 1620 in Volkerode, + nach 6.4.1681 in Sieboldshausen Heirat am 14.10.1651 in Sieboldshausen mit Orthia Beermann * um 1630 in Sieboldshausen, + 25-4-1691 in Sieboldshausen. Eltern : Andreas Beermann und Maria Hausmann

Für jeden Hinweis bin ich dankbar.

[HN] Dippel, Obernolte, Holzwirt in der Gegend um Einbeck und Nordhausen

Date: 2006/05/14 22:32:25
From: Wilfried Doll <1951wido(a)schlundmail.de>

Liebe Forscherkollegen,
vielleicht hat jemand etwas um meine spärlichen Daten aufzubessern?

1. Dippel, Wilhelm, Schlosser
oo Emilie Baade

4 Kinder von Nr. 1

2. Dippel, Else
oo Nordhausen,,NS,D Willi-1 Holzwirt, Schneidermeister
3. Dippel, Harry
oo Martha Gese
4. Dippel, Heinrich
oo ABT 1931 Emmi Obernolte
5. Dippel, Willi
oo Else Laube

Matha Gese, die mit Harry Dippel verheiratet war wohnte in Einbeck. Die Ehe war kinderlos
Beide sind vor einigen Jahren verstorben
Der Vater von Matha Gese war Schneidermeister mit eigenem Geschäft.

mit freundlichen Grüßen
Wilfried (Doll)





Re: [HN] Hafertepe

Date: 2006/05/14 23:53:02
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Paula,

   There are two records with the name of Hafertepe in the emigration
records of Osnabrück.  These are not the names you have, but the surname is
the same.  Dirk Hafertepe and Maria Catherina emigrated from the area of
Merzen.  This corresponds with what Hans Peter has said.

    Merzen is southeast of Fürstenau.  The LDS have films from the Catholic
church there. It includes the nearby town of Lechtrop:

Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1808-1874  Katholische Kirche Merzen (Lechtrup-Merzen)

Civil registers and transcripts of church records for births, baptisms,
marriages, and deaths of Merzen, later Lechtrup-Merzen. Includes some
indexes. Part of the records are in Latin. Some of records are filmed
backwards.

   Those records filmed backwards just might be a bit difficult!

   Have you seen the Hafertepe listed on World Connect with Rootsweb.  There
is a Hafertepe marriage there at Sudmerzen. That is the same area.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=beckman&id=I0935

Good luck,
Barbara

   


on 5/14/06 8:00 AM, 320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de at
320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de wrote:

> "paula schwartz" <oomis(a)centurytel.net> schrieb:
>> I am researching the Hafertepe family.  Bernard Heinrich and Gehrend
>> (probably spelled incorrectly)Hafertepe immigrated to St. Louis, Mo.
>> Some people believe the story begins in Hannover with one family.  Maybe
>> spelled Hafertepen or ?  Any suggestions or directions would be very
>> appreciated. Thank You ...........Paula
> 
> Hello Paula Schwartz,
> 
> there are 4 enties HAFERTEPE in 1998, so the name is given and not needable
> wrong, mispelled or -written. Here they are, by the way all places are still
> in Lower-Saxony or former Kingdom of Hannover, but all very nearby the border
> to North-Rhine-Westfalia:
> 
> - HAFERTEPE, Bernhard, Exterbrock 40, 49124 Georgsmarienhütte, Tel. 05421
> 40594
> - HAFERTEPE, Doris und Ralf, Im Dreskamp 1a, 49170 Hagen, Tel. 05401 98160
> - HAFERTEPE, Leo, Prozessionsweg 3, 49586 Merzen, Tel. 05466 1337
> - HAFERTEPE, Otto, Landw., 49586 Merzen, Tel. 05466 1256
> 
> Good luck in your research   Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel
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Re: [HN] Barenkamp

Date: 2006/05/15 00:32:19
From: FSAFlowers <FSAFlowers(a)aol.com>

Barbara,
 
I really thank you for taking the time to think about the Barenkamps.  
 
I have to drive to Atlanta this coming week for graduation, and when I  
return I'll jump back into this project with both feet.  
 
I'm saving these emails in the meantime.  Thank you again.
Suzanne

Re: [HN] Hafertepe

Date: 2006/05/15 05:22:49
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Paula,

Came a across biography of a Fr. Angelicus Hafertepe, Pastor Sacred Heart Parish of Calumet, Michigan, educated Cincinatti, Ohio, ordained 15 June 1878 by Archbishop J.B. Purcell as a priest in the catholic church.

Mentions birth Voltlage, Furstenau, Osnabrueck, Hannover and came to U.S. with his parents when he was just 2 years old....

** J.B. Purcell, (irish) Archbishop of Cincinnatti, Ohio was first Bishop of Alton, Illinois..per Caltholic Encylopedia..mentions Holy Trinity Church also..but I think Ohio rather than St. Louis but is not clear.

Interesting that this Fr. Angelicus Hafertepe was from Furtenau though...seems to agree with data given here.....if you wan entire bio I can send .pdf.

Barbie-Lew



In this title:

Title:  Memorial record of the northern peninsula of Michigan

City of Publication:  Chicago

Publisher:  Lewis Pub. Co.

Date:  1895


Hello Paula,

   There are two records with the name of Hafertepe in the emigration
records of Osnabrück.  These are not the names you have, but the surname is
the same.  Dirk Hafertepe and Maria Catherina emigrated from the area of
Merzen.  This corresponds with what Hans Peter has said.

    Merzen is southeast of Fürstenau.  The LDS have films from the Catholic
church there. It includes the nearby town of Lechtrop:

Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1808-1874  Katholische Kirche Merzen (Lechtrup-Merzen)

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Re: [HN] Hafertepe

Date: 2006/05/15 05:53:01
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Paula,

City Directory - Cincinnatti - 1878

Hafertepe - 201 Hopkins
Benj - tinner
Henry - carpenter
Jos - stonecutter

Hafertepe - 65 W. Mulberry
Jos - lab.
Lizzie - tailoress

Source citation.

Title: Williams' Cincinnati directory : embracing a full alphabetical record of the names of the inhabitants of Cincinnati, a business directory, municipal record, United States Post Office directory, etc., etc., etc.

City of Publication:  Cincinnati

Publisher: Printed at the Cincinnati Directory Office, Williams & Co., proprietors, A.V. Williams, superintendent

Date:  1878

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Re: [HN] Hafertepe Fürstenau

Date: 2006/05/15 09:16:34
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

> ** J.B. Purcell, (irish)  Archbishop of Cincinnatti, Ohio was first Bishop
> of Alton, Illinois..per Caltholic Encylopedia..mentions Holy Trinity
> Church
> also..but I think Ohio rather than St. Louis but is not clear.

> Interesting that this Fr. Angelicus Hafertepe was from Furtenau
> though...seems to agree with data given here....

I think it should be "Fürstenau" or "Fuerstenau"!

Have a nice day,
Werner


[HN] HN] Subject: Re: Duemmermann Family

Date: 2006/05/15 10:00:46
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hello,

Belated thought and a longshot. If any Duemmermann in U.S. Depending on old script, pronounciation, perhaps Daudermann an alternative name??

Posten in Feb. 2006 :

[HN] Edwardsville, Madison, Illinois USA News Tidbits - HannoverL Relatives Perhaps?

Tidbits other surnames in this dull thread :)

Was new item surname Daudermann....

Laverne Dauderman, a student at Elmhurst College is spending the Christmas holidays with his parents.

Miss Merle L. Dauderman who attends school in St. Louis visiting her parents Mr. and Mrs. Walter J. Dauderman.

Source was:

Edwardsville Intelligencer (Newspaper)
Edwardsville, Madison, Illinois, USA.
12/26/1935

------------------------------------------------

Effingham, Illinois

Area of Blue Point Lutheran Community (1874) mention persons named:

Albrecht - General Store
Ziegler - General Store
Klitzing - General Store & Grain Elevator
Kopplin - Black Smith Shop
Munzel- Grain Elevator
Luehrmann - Stockyards

& also that Bill Dammermann ran a grist mill east of town...

Last business Blue Point...
Gust Laugel - Cold Beer Storage

Source...

Title:  Effingham County, Illinois, past and present

City of Publication:  Effingham, Ill.

Publisher:  The Society

Date:  1968


Also mentions:

St. Johns Lutheran Cemetery in Douglas Township. The Church established 1866. Gaborn Muk was first person buried circa 1864.

Early settles buried include: (not all)
Dammermann, Krumreich, Haack, Ziegler, Hoefflicker, Zimdars, Thoma, Ruether, Stortzum, Reinhardt, Buhnerkemper???...

--------------- Also mentions:


St. Anthony Cemetery..(Douglas Township)
Land donated 1857 by Mr. & Mrs. William Altoff to Bishop Juncker...

Some well known names buried..(not all)
Dasenbrock, Bloemer, Grunloh, Fuerborn, Apke,
------------------------------------
Pfc. Cecil Dammermann of Effingham died WWII.

------------------------

Effingham to Edwardsville, Madison (Illinois)
( > 85 miles)

Effingham to Nashville, Washington (Illinois)
( > 95 miles)

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Re: [HN] Hafertepe Frstenau

Date: 2006/05/15 10:06:40
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Werner,

My bad.

Your absolutely positively right!!!

Crud!!!

Failed that New Years resolution..
(to check spelling/typing before posting message)

Sorry.

Barbie-Lew




> ** J.B. Purcell, (irish) Archbishop of Cincinnatti, Ohio was first Bishop
> of Alton, Illinois..per Caltholic Encylopedia..mentions Holy Trinity
> Church
> also..but I think Ohio rather than St. Louis but is not clear.

> Interesting that this Fr. Angelicus Hafertepe was from Furtenau
> though...seems to agree with data given here....

I think it should be "Fürstenau" or "Fuerstenau"!

Have a nice day,
Werner

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[HN] For B. Marhenke

Date: 2006/05/15 10:43:29
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Hello,

Perusing and came across longshot tidbit.

History of Barrington Township [[Cook County].

Town located NW corner of [Cook County].
Bounded by :
Lake County to the north.
Town of Palatine to the east.
Schaumburg and Hanover to the south.
Dundee (Kane county) to the west.

1847 Henry Mundhenke came to the township.

Source citation.

Title: History of Cook County, Illinois : from the earliest period to the present time

Authors:  Andreas, A. T.

City of Publication:  Chicago

Publisher:  A.T. Andreas

Date:  1884





1847 Henry Mundhenke came to the township.

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[HN] Diehle/Ernst

Date: 2006/05/15 12:47:40
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
Ich suche ergänzende Daten zu Charlotte Wilhelmine Diehle, * um 1725, + 22.3.1792 in grone bei Göttingen, Heirat am 5.11.1752 in Grone mit Johann Friedrich Ernst * 11.11.1719 in Sieboldshausen, + 22-8-1787 in Grone, Beruf: Zimmermann, Eltern: Johann Daniel Ernst und Margaretha Ludewig.
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

[HN] Familienstammbuch der Familie Kiene/Kühne

Date: 2006/05/15 18:46:30
From: Sarah Schiebold <sarah_schiebold(a)lycos.de>

Suche das Familienstammbuch oder Auszüge daraus von der Familie Kiene/Kühne. Bei Informationen shreibt bitte eine e-mail an: Sarah_schiebold(a)lyocs.de
Ich freue mich auf jede Hilfreiche e-mail!

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Sarah Schiebold

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[HN] Masch

Date: 2006/05/15 19:27:29
From: KarlMasch <KarlMasch(a)aol.com>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer(innen),
 
Seit Jahren erforsche ich die Familie Masch aus Fürstenau. Die ältesten  
ermittelten FDamilienmitglieder sind Johan Hinrich Masch * um 1690 +1756 und  
Jürgen Masch * um 1660. Erforscht jemand diese Familie ebenfalls? Für  einen 
Meldung würde ich mich freuen.
 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Karl Masch

Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 30, Eintrag 19

Date: 2006/05/16 12:23:09
From: Erika Trueman <erika.trueman(a)ntlworld.com>

Hi Barbie,

Thanks for thinking of me... I now got a chronic of Guenterode from which my
Duemermann ancestor came, which lists all families from that village as they
were recorded in the church records. I also found my g-grandmother in there.
Whilst on the original certificates I received from the Registry office in
Guenterode her name was given as Duemermann, in the chronic it is listed as
Thiemermann (in brackets also Diemermann), and her father as Thiemermann. It
seems that there was no definite spelling at that time. Luckily, the chronic
goes back a few generations and I was able to add more ancestors to my list.

Greetings from Leeds, UK

Erika


>Belated thought and a longshot. If any Duemmermann in U.S.  Depending on
old
>script, pronounciation, perhaps Daudermann an alternative name??



[HN] Trieselmann aus Sieboldshausen

Date: 2006/05/16 15:59:25
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Ich suche die Eltern von Andreas Trieselmann, * um 1634 in Sieboldshausen, + 11-2-1714 in Sieboldshausen Ehefrau: Catharina Beermann 5 Kinder: Catharina, Anna, Jürgen, Margareta und Andreas.
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.


[HN] Help in former Kingdom of Hannover

Date: 2006/05/16 18:21:26
From: DKnoepfel <DKnoepfel(a)aol.com>

I wonder if there is someone on the liste living in Amt Hoya who would be  
willing to do some research for me in the Amt. records  for a fee.  If  so, 
would they contact me at _DKnoepfel(a)aol.com_ (mailto:DKnoepfel(a)aol.com) .
 
I seem to have hit a brick wall some years ago.  This is what I know  about 
my family.
 
Heinrich Dieke  ( I understand the name in Germany may have been  Deike)
born:  7 January 1817 in the Kingdom of Hannover, probably in Amt  Hoya
name of father ?
name of mother ?
brother's or sister's ?
religion - evangelical 
 
 1. He married in 1845 (possibly in November).  It is not known  if he 
married in 
                                   Hannover or in the U.S.
 
  2.  He married Louise Sophie Dorothee  Wilhelmine Wesemann.  She was born 
       10 July 1820 in Landesbergen, daughter  of Johann Cord Wesemann and 
Ilse 
       Margarethe Meyer.
 
The 1900 U.S. census says they had been married 55 years and had been in  the 
U.S. for 55
years.
 
They settled in Cook County, Illlinois, outside of Chicago, in an area  where 
many of their neighbors also came from Amt Hoya and Amt Stolzenau.
 
Family history says he spent 5 years in the army in Hannover.  
 
Sincere thanks.
 
Don Knoepfel
 
 
 
                                   
 

Re: [HN] Help in former Kingdom of Hannover

Date: 2006/05/16 23:33:07
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   The curchbook in Hoya : Adress:

   Ev,- luth. Kirchengemeinde Hoya.

   von Staffhorststr.. 7

   27318 HoYa

   Germany

   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] Help in former Kingdom of Hannover Gesendet: Di 16 Mai
   2006 18:21:45 CEST Von: DKnoepfel(a)aol.com > I wonder if there is
   someone on the liste living in Amt Hoya who would be > willing to do
   some research for me in the Amt. records for a fee. If so, > > would
   they contact me at _DKnoepfel(a)aol.com_ (mailto:DKnoepfel(a)aol.com) . >
   > I seem to have hit a brick wall some years ago. This is what I know
   about > > my family. > > Heinrich Dieke ( I understand the name in
   Germany may have been Deike) > born: 7 January 1817 in the Kingdom of
   Hannover, probably in Amt Hoya > name of father ? > name of mother ? >
   brother's or sister's ? > religion - evangelical > > 1. He married in
   1845 (possibly in November). It is not known if he > married in >
   Hannover or in the U.S. > > 2. He married Louise Sophie Dorothee
   Wilhelmine Wesemann. She was born > > 10 July 1820 in Landesbergen,
   daughter of Johann Cord Wesemann and > Ilse > Margarethe Meyer. > >
   The 1900 U.S. census says they had been married 55 years and had been
   in > the > U.S. for 55 > years. > > They settled in Cook County,
   Illlinois, outside of Chicago, in an area > where > many of their
   neighbors also came from Amt Hoya and Amt Stolzenau. > > Family
   history says he spent 5 years in the army in Hannover. > > Sincere
   thanks. > > Don Knoepfel > > > > > >
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Re: [HN] Help in former Kingdom of Hannover

Date: 2006/05/16 23:46:50
From: DKnoepfel <DKnoepfel(a)aol.com>

Thank you very much.
Don Knoepfel

[HN] Ritter

Date: 2006/05/17 01:16:56
From: Diego Pufal <diegopufal(a)gmail.com>

 Hallo listen,

 Ich suche information Herrmann Heinrich Anton Ritter, *Altenmann von
Schleswe, Holstein, son von HERRMANN HEINRICH CONRAD RITTER und MARIA
RECHTER, aus HANOVER.

  Viele GrüBe,
  Diego Pufal
   aus Brasilien.

[HN] Suche SANDMANN in Kirchlinteln - Hermann Diederich SANDMANN (*err. 1746) und Johann Hinrich SANDMANN (*err. 1772)

Date: 2006/05/17 08:41:57
From: guenter . bassen <guenter.bassen(a)arcor.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer,

im Kirchspiel Rotenburg/Wümme habe ich wieder einen Auswärtigen gefunden:

Hermann Diederich SANDMANN, *err. 1746 in Kirchlinteln ???, + 06.05.1808 in Borchel
verheiratet mit Rebecka UNBEKANNT, *err. 1742 in ???, + 29.04.1808 in Borchel

Sohn:
Johann Hinrich SANDMANN, *err. 1772 in Kirchlinteln ???, + 17.02.1823 in Borchel
heiratet am 16.11.1813 in Rotenburg
Anne Margarethe JUNCK, Daten bekannt

Wer kann mir zu der Familie SANDMANN mehr sagen?


Viele Grüße     Günter


Günter Bassen
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27419 Klein Meckelsen

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Suche in Windershusen (Ksp. Selsingen): Meyer
Suche in Lerbach bei Osterode am Harz:  Oppermann

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[HN] Reuter aus Güntersen bei Göttingen

Date: 2006/05/17 16:33:36
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Wer hat Reuter aus Südniedersachsen in seiner AL?
Ich suche weitere Daten zu Johann Heinrich Reuter, * um 1705 in Güntersen, + vor 1776
Seine Ehefrau war Dorothea Elisabeth Diebholz. keine Daten vorhanden
Seine Eltern : Hans Koine Reuter * um 1670, und Anna Maria Alruetz * um 1675 keine weiteren Daten.
Wer kann helfen? ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

Re: [HN] Reuter aus Güntersen bei Göttingen

Date: 2006/05/17 18:21:32
From: Herbert.Kunkel <Herbert(a)theKunkels.com>

Hallo.

REUTER ist unter Glashuetten-Interessierten kein unbekannter Name. Er wird im angesprochenen Bereich zitiert bei:
Otto Bloss: Die aelteren Glashuetten in Suedniedersachsen"
und natuerlich auch bei
Klaus Kunze: Glasmacher-Sippenbuch.

Ein Blick in diese Veroeffenlichungen zeigt moeglicherweise Perspektiven auf.

Herbert



----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn" <wimisp(a)online.de>
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Sent: 17 May 2006 16:32
Subject: [HN] Reuter aus Güntersen bei Göttingen


Wer hat Reuter aus Südniedersachsen in seiner AL?
Ich suche weitere Daten zu Johann Heinrich Reuter, * um 1705 in
Güntersen, + vor 1776
Seine Ehefrau war Dorothea Elisabeth Diebholz. keine Daten vorhanden
Seine Eltern : Hans Koine Reuter * um 1670, und Anna Maria Alruetz * um
1675 keine weiteren Daten.
Wer kann helfen? ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.
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[HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/17 23:25:39
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hallo liebe Forschergemeinde,

   ich suche meinen Vorfahren , der bei der Königlich Deutschen Legion
   gedient hat. Weiß einer ob da im Internet schon irgendwelche Links
   sind, auf denen man suchen kann ? Es geht mir um Namen, Daten und
   Hilfsgeistliche im Feld .Gibt es da irgendwas , worin ich stöbern
   könnte ?

   Jeder Hinweiß ist gut !

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Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 00:42:36
From: Harald Kemm <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de>


----- Original Message ----- From: <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>



  Hallo liebe Forschergemeinde,

  ich suche meinen Vorfahren , der bei der Königlich Deutschen Legion
  gedient hat. Weiß einer ob da im Internet schon irgendwelche Links
  sind, auf denen man suchen kann ? Es geht mir um Namen, Daten und
>  Hilfsgeistliche im Feld .Gibt es da irgendwas , worin ich stöbern
>  könnte ?

  Jeder Hinweiß ist gut !

  Liebe Grüße an alle.... Petra
  --


Hallo Petra,

versuch es mal unter http://www.hannoversche-militaergeschichte.org.

Wenn Du mir den Namen gibst kann ich auch mal im "Kirchenbuch der Brigade der Linien-Infantrie" nachschauen ob ich da was finde.

Viele Grüße aus Barsinghausen

Harald (Kemm)
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Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 04:29:59
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

Ein Kontakt mit http://www.kgl.info/Verein/verein.html wäre wohl auch
angebracht.
Fred


On 5/17/06, Harald Kemm <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de> wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>



>   Hallo liebe Forschergemeinde,

>   ich suche meinen Vorfahren , der bei der Königlich Deutschen Legion
>   gedient hat. Weiß einer ob da im Internet schon irgendwelche Links
>   sind, auf denen man suchen kann ? Es geht mir um Namen, Daten und
>  Hilfsgeistliche im Feld .Gibt es da irgendwas , worin ich stöbern
>  könnte ?

>   Jeder Hinweiß ist gut !

>   Liebe Grüße an alle.... Petra
>   --


Hallo Petra,

versuch es mal unter http://www.hannoversche-militaergeschichte.org.

Wenn Du mir den Namen gibst kann ich auch mal im "Kirchenbuch der Brigade
der Linien-Infantrie" nachschauen ob ich da was finde.

Viele Grüße aus Barsinghausen

Harald (Kemm)
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[HN] Luthin/ Weymar

Date: 2006/05/18 14:37:00
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Liene Listenteilnehmer,
wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
Ich suche weitere Daten von: Johann Jobst Luthin * um 1665. + nach 24-11-1685, Heirat am 24-11-1685 in Meensen bei Göttingen mit: Anna Margarete Weymar, * um 1655, + nach 24-11-1685, Eltern: Georg Weymar und Anna Maria Nolte.
Wer kann helfen?
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 15:30:52
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hallo Harald,

   das wäre nett wenn du mal schauen könntest.  Hier die Daten:

   Johann Andreas (John Andrew ) Krüger (Krueger), war wahrscheinlich bei
   der Infantrie der KGL,  wahrscheinlich 1tes leichtes Bataaillon in der
   5. Kompanie. Er war zeitweise in Gibraltar.

   Sein Sohn Carl Traugott Krüger wurde geboren  : Orginal Text  : geb.
   22. März 1807 in England, getauft den 2.April von Curate
   (Hilfsgeistlicher) Conelly, Geburtsort unleserlich, vielleicht Bally
   Bay.

   Als Mutter ist  Dorothea geb.Deike aus Garstedt angegeben

   Der Pastor hatte wahrscheinlich den Text aus einer vorgelegten
   Beschreibung entnommen.

   Liebe Grüße sendet Petra
   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: Re: [HN] King German Legion Gesendet: Do 18 Mai 2006 00:42:55
   CEST Von: "Harald Kemm"<harald.kemm(a)freenet.de> > > ----- Original
   Message ----- > From: > > > > > Hallo liebe Forschergemeinde, > > >
   ich suche meinen Vorfahren , der bei der Königlich Deutschen Legion >
   > gedient hat. Weiß einer ob da im Internet schon irgendwelche Links >
   > sind, auf denen man suchen kann ? Es geht mir um Namen, Daten und >
   > Hilfsgeistliche im Feld .Gibt es da irgendwas , worin ich stöbern >
   > könnte ? > > > Jeder Hinweiß ist gut ! > > > Liebe Grüße an alle....
   Petra > > -- > > > Hallo Petra, > > versuch es mal unter
   http://www.hannoversche-militaergeschichte.org. > > Wenn Du mir den
   Namen gibst kann ich auch mal im "Kirchenbuch der Brigade > der
   Linien-Infantrie" nachschauen ob ich da was finde. > > Viele Grüße aus
   Barsinghausen > > Harald (Kemm) > harald.kemm(a)freenet.de > > >
   ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing
   list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
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[HN] Masch

Date: 2006/05/18 15:40:37
From: KarlMasch <KarlMasch(a)aol.com>

Liebe Listernteilnehmer(innen),
 
Seit Jahren erforsche ich die Familie Masch aus Fürstenau. Die ältesten  
ermittelten Familienmitglieder sind Johan Hinrich Masch * um 1690 und + 1756  
sowie Jürgen Masch * um 1660. Erforscht jemand diese Familie  ebenfalls? Über eine 
Meldung würde ich mich freuen.
 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Karl Masch

[HN] Kühne

Date: 2006/05/18 16:15:58
From: Georgia Bruns <georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com>

 Auf dieser Seite finden Sie einen Artikel über Pastor Kühne. Ich habe eine
Kopie des Artikels auf Deutsch, wenn Sie es möchten.  

Ein sehr gut erzogener Mann. Er reiste auch viele Plätze.

Die maschinelle Übersetzung bitte entschuldigen. Meine deutsche Sprache ist
nicht gut.  

http://iagenweb.org/boards/allamakee/biographies/index.cgi?read=109646

On this page you will find an article about Pastor Kühne.   I have a copy of
the article in German if you would like it.  
 
A very well educated man.  He also traveled many places.
 
Please excuse the computer translation.  My German language is not good.  

 
Georgia Nuehring Bruns
researching Nuhring, Nuehring, Nehring, Kreplin, Warnholtz, Grossman,
Yauslin, Homeyer, Sander,Kregel,Stade, Von Stade, Rohn,
 Borcherding, Schultz, and many others.  From Iowa, Husum, Krein, Germany,
and other places.
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/u/Georgia-A-Bruns/
Have a great day and may God Bless You!
 
 
 

Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 16:31:08
From: Harald Kemm <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de>


----- Original Message ----- From: <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>



  Hallo Harald,

  das wäre nett wenn du mal schauen könntest.  Hier die Daten:

  Johann Andreas (John Andrew ) Krüger (Krueger), war wahrscheinlich bei
  der Infantrie der KGL,  wahrscheinlich 1tes leichtes Bataaillon in der
  5. Kompanie. Er war zeitweise in Gibraltar.

  Sein Sohn Carl Traugott Krüger wurde geboren  : Orginal Text  : geb.
  22. März 1807 in England, getauft den 2.April von Curate
  (Hilfsgeistlicher) Conelly, Geburtsort unleserlich, vielleicht Bally
  Bay.

  Als Mutter ist  Dorothea geb.Deike aus Garstedt angegeben

  Der Pastor hatte wahrscheinlich den Text aus einer vorgelegten
  Beschreibung entnommen.

  Liebe Grüße sendet Petra



Hallo Petra,

den einzigsten Eintrag mit Namen Krüger

Lfd. Nr. 23  Actum: d. 20. April 1808 zu Bexhill in Sussex

Getauft der Sohn des Soldaten Wilhelm Krüger, 2. Comp. 7. Batt. Linie K.G.L. und dessen Ehefrau Amalia, geb. Heisen. Das Kind war gebohren d. 13. April 1808 und ihm in der Taufe der Nahme Gustav Ernst beigelegt.
Taufpathen: Gustav Ernst Krüger.

(Quelle: KB der Brigade der Linien.Infanterie der Königlich Deutschen Legion v. 1806 - 1814. Geführt von Feldprediger Friedrich Rambke).

Aber das passt ja wohl nicht.

MfG
Harald

[HN] Archive im Bereich Lingen

Date: 2006/05/18 18:36:13
From: Jürgen Schweimler <schweimler(a)tiscali.de>

Hallo Forscherkolleginnen und -kollegen!

Ich suche nach Personenstandsregistern und Zivilstandsregister für die Zeit vor und nach 1876 für Lingen an der Ems. Wer könnte mir sagen in welchen Archiven diese eventuell zu finden wären?

Gruß Jürgen

Dipl.- Ing.Jürgen Schweimler
Harnischstraße 4
41515 Grevenbroich
Telefon: 02181/6 15 35
e-mail: < schweimler(a)tiscali.de>

Re: [HN] Archive im Bereich Lingen

Date: 2006/05/18 19:08:00
From: Oliver Bund <ollibund(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Jürgen,

da wäre das Stadtarchiv Lingen

http://www.lingen.de/index.php?parent=8&idcat=50&idart=353&idlang=1

oder der Heimatverein kann dir sicherlich auch Auskunft geben

http://www.heimatverein-lingen.de/Beta-Version/Heimatverein-Lingen-30/index.htm

Viele Grüße

Heike (Bund)



----- Original Message ----- From: "Jürgen Schweimler" <schweimler(a)tiscali.de>
To: "AMF-Hannover Liste" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:34 PM
Subject: [HN] Archive im Bereich Lingen


Hallo Forscherkolleginnen und -kollegen!

Ich suche nach Personenstandsregistern und Zivilstandsregister für die Zeit
vor und nach 1876  für Lingen an der Ems. Wer könnte mir sagen in welchen
Archiven diese eventuell zu finden wären?

Gruß Jürgen

Dipl.- Ing.Jürgen Schweimler
Harnischstraße 4
41515 Grevenbroich
Telefon: 02181/6 15 35
e-mail:  < schweimler(a)tiscali.de>

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Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 22:56:13
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: Re: [HN] King German Legion Gesendet: Do 18 Mai 2006 16:31:26
   CEST Von: "Harald Kemm"<harald.kemm(a)freenet.de> > > ----- Original
   Message ----- > From: > > > > Hallo Harald, > > das wäre nett wenn du
   mal schauen könntest. Hier die Daten: > > Johann Andreas (John Andrew
   ) Krüger (Krueger), war wahrscheinlich bei > der Infantrie der KGL,
   wahrscheinlich 1tes leichtes Bataaillon in der > 5. Kompanie. Er war
   zeitweise in Gibraltar. > > Sein Sohn Carl Traugott Krüger wurde
   geboren : Orginal Text : geb. > 22. März 1807 in England, getauft den
   2.April von Curate > (Hilfsgeistlicher) Conelly, Geburtsort
   unleserlich, vielleicht Bally > Bay. > > Als Mutter ist Dorothea
   geb.Deike aus Garstedt angegeben > > Der Pastor hatte wahrscheinlich
   den Text aus einer vorgelegten > Beschreibung entnommen. > > Liebe
   Grüße sendet Petra > > > > Hallo Petra, > > den einzigsten Eintrag mit
   Namen Krüger > > Lfd. Nr. 23 Actum: d. 20. April 1808 zu Bexhill in
   Sussex > > Getauft der Sohn des Soldaten Wilhelm Krüger, 2. Comp. 7.
   Batt. Linie K.G.L. > > und dessen Ehefrau Amalia, geb. Heisen. Das
   Kind war gebohren d. 13. April > 1808 und ihm in der Taufe der Nahme
   Gustav Ernst beigelegt. > Taufpathen: Gustav Ernst Krüger. > >
   (Quelle: KB der Brigade der Linien.Infanterie der Königlich Deutschen
   Legion > > v. 1806 - 1814. Geführt von Feldprediger Friedrich Rambke).
   > > Aber das passt ja wohl nicht. > > MfG > Harald > >
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   list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
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   --- original Nachricht Ende ----
   Hallo Harald,

   das passt leider wirklich nicht. Schade. Es passt sowieso wenig
   zusammen hier. Bally Bay liegt in Nordirland und nicht in England. Die
   Mutter sollte, nach Familienüberlieferungen aus Mauretanien kommen und
   nicht aus Garstedt. Aber trotzdem toll das du nachgeschaut hast. Danke
   dir. Liebe grüße Petra
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Re: [HN] King German Legion

Date: 2006/05/18 23:04:17
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hallo Fred,

   ich glaube bei denen hatte ich schon mal nachgefragt , werde aber noch
   mal auf die Seite gehen. Sitzen die nicht sogar in H ? Liebe Grüße
   Petra
   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: Re: [HN] King German Legion Gesendet: Do 18 Mai 2006 04:30:40
   CEST Von: "W. Fred Rump"<fredrump(a)gmail.com> > Ein Kontakt mit
   http://www.kgl.info/Verein/verein.html wäre wohl auch > angebracht. >
   Fred > > > On 5/17/06, Harald Kemm wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original
   Message ----- > > From: > > > > > > > > > Hallo liebe
   Forschergemeinde, > > > > > ich suche meinen Vorfahren , der bei der
   Königlich Deutschen Legion > > > gedient hat. Weiß einer ob da im
   Internet schon irgendwelche Links > > > sind, auf denen man suchen
   kann ? Es geht mir um Namen, Daten und > > > Hilfsgeistliche im Feld
   .Gibt es da irgendwas , worin ich stöbern > > > könnte ? > > > > >
   Jeder Hinweiß ist gut ! > > > > > Liebe Grüße an alle.... Petra > > >
   -- > > > > > > Hallo Petra, > > > > versuch es mal unter
   http://www.hannoversche-militaergeschichte.org. > > > > Wenn Du mir
   den Namen gibst kann ich auch mal im "Kirchenbuch der Brigade > > der
   Linien-Infantrie" nachschauen ob ich da was finde. > > > > Viele Grüße
   aus Barsinghausen > > > > Harald (Kemm) > > harald.kemm(a)freenet.de > >
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[HN] Nolte gest. in Meensen

Date: 2006/05/19 14:55:08
From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn <wimisp(a)online.de>

Liebe Listen-Leser
Wer hat Anna maria Nolte  in seiner AL?
Anna Maria Nolte * um 1628, + 3-9-1695 in Meensen bei Göttingen
verh. mit Georg Weymar, * 4.6.1602 in Annaberg, +24-02-1668 in Meensen, Pastor in Meensen.
Wer kann helfen, ergänzende Daten von Anna Maria , wer waren ihre Eltern?
Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

[HN] Vater aus Toronto ????

Date: 2006/05/19 22:44:54
From: Ruth Decker <ruth.decker(a)gmx.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer.
Wer kann einer Bekannten von mir helfen?
Sie ist im März 1946 in Cloppenburg nichtehelich geboren.
Ihre Mutter hatte im Sommer 1945 in CLP eine kurze Beziehung zu einem
Kanadischen Besatzungssoldaten.
Die Mutter ist früh verstorben und hat keinerlei Informationen an die Tochter weitergegeben.
Im Geburts- und auch im Taufregister ist kein Name erwähnt.
Die Bekannte hatte in ihrer Kinderzeit einmal einen Zettel mit dem Namen
Jack Jackson Toronto gefunden.
Eine Anfrage über die Botschaft war erfolglos.
Was kann sie noch tun?
Über jeden Hinweis würde sie sich sehr freuen.
Danke.
Ruth

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Re: [HN] Luthin/ Weymar

Date: 2006/05/19 23:15:44
From: Reinhard Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

Herr Mispelhorn, hier noch einige Tips
:
Antworten zu Ihren Fragen Pastor Weymar und seine Ehefrau
Nolte finden Sie vielleicht auch im PASTORENBUCH   nds.
Landfeskirche von Meyer.

Ggf. gibt es auch ein sächssiches Pastorenbuch (Wegen
Herkunft Weymar aus Annaberg)



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-----Original Message-----
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:36:19 +0200
> Subject: [HN] Luthin/ Weymar
> From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn 
> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net

> Liene Listenteilnehmer,
> wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
> Ich suche weitere Daten von: Johann Jobst Luthin * um
1665. + nach 
> 24-11-1685, Heirat am 24-11-1685 in Meensen bei Göttingen
mit:
> Anna Margarete Weymar, * um 1655, + nach 24-11-1685,
Eltern: Georg 
> Weymar und Anna Maria Nolte.
> Wer kann helfen?
> Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.
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[HN] Leaving

Date: 2006/05/20 05:18:41
From: Jane Swan <jeswansong(a)earthlink.net>

Dear friends and Listers:  Auf Wiedersehen for the summer.  I shall be
going to Massachusetts in a few days and unfortunately have no computer up
there. So it's up to you - John, Rena, Gale and everyone else to keep the
pot stirring until I return in mid-Sep.
I'll miss you until then.     Jane


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Re: [HN] Lauing - ( Was Elfring)

Date: 2006/05/20 07:39:20
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Gerd,

Was persuing rootsweb/ancestry.com message boards.

Because my grandmother traveled the ship Duetschland that departed Hamburg 7 May 1926 I thought to post little bits of data I also aquired on others that traveled this ship.

To make a long story short...

There was an Ernst Hemminger on this same ship. I noticed someone by the name of A. Gustofson that posted a message regarding surname Hemmiger.

On the Gustofson board there is posting by a Shannon Lauing Tupy. She includes Gustason, Gustofson in her post. There is a bio for an Oscar Gustason in history regarding Kane County Illinois.

I had noticed Lauing mentioned Dupage County Illinois area. Kane is neighboring county and I wondered if would be of interest to yourself.

Barbie-Lew





Dear Gerd,

This census?

1910 IL  DUPAGE  DOWNERS GROVE TWP
Series: T624  Roll: 285  Page: 75

Dwelling #267, Family#271
LAUING  D., age 69, farmer, year of immigration 1858/na.,, born Germany,
Annie - age 63, wife, 10 pregnancies, 8 living children...born Germany,
Albert - "" 23, son
Annie - "" 19. daughter

(For Annie does say she was born Germany but no immigration year listed.)
Would think year of immigration might vary from husb. D. Lauing if they married in Illinois 1866.

On this page are also:
Dwelling #266 Family#269
LAUING, William - head  age 63, farmer
Perhaps brother to D.?

This census appears to be D. Lauing and Anna Elfring/Elfing.

1870 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , DUPAGE, ADDISON
Series: M593 Roll: 217 Page: 385b

LAUING, DEDRICK, Age: 30, Male, Born: HANO
LAUING, ANNA, Age: 33?, Female, Born: Illinois
LAUING, WM, Age 3,Male, Born: Illinois
LAUING, RICHARD, Age 2, Male, Born: Illinois

Wonder where this family is in 1880, 1900, 1920?

Did notice several Elfring males, various Illinois census' listed as being born Prussia.

Barbie-Lew

If I happen to run across surnames in one of the Illinois county histories with family biographies..I'll write.


















Hello "Cactus Flower",

thanks for your help, esp. the possible Elfring relations.
The Lauing branch is well known, because I have connections to the American relatives. And I found the German roots, for they didn't know.

The 1910 United States Federal Census shows, that Anna and her parents were born in Germany. So I hope, someone in Germany will know them. But there is no reaction. Better luck next time?
Best wishes to America,

Gerd (Lauing)

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Re: [HN] Leaving

Date: 2006/05/20 08:03:45
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Jane,

Enjoy that clam chowder :)

Will miss learning from you and the historical knowledge bank of your brain.

Barbie-Lew

Dear friends and Listers:  Auf Wiedersehen for the summer.  I shall be
going to Massachusetts in a few days and unfortunately have no computer up
there. So it's up to you - John, Rena, Gale and everyone else to keep the
pot stirring until I return in mid-Sep.
I'll miss you until then.     Jane


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Re: [HN] Luthin/ Weymar

Date: 2006/05/20 09:43:38
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>

Hallo,

WEYMAR kommt in Meyer, Philipp nicht vor.

Gruß

Klaus Riecken
www.Riecken-online.de

----- Original Message -----
From: "Reinhard Freytag" <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [HN] Luthin/ Weymar


Herr Mispelhorn, hier noch einige Tips
:
Antworten zu Ihren Fragen Pastor Weymar und seine Ehefrau
Nolte finden Sie vielleicht auch im PASTORENBUCH   nds.
Landfeskirche von Meyer.

Ggf. gibt es auch ein sächssiches Pastorenbuch (Wegen
Herkunft Weymar aus Annaberg)



--
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vorwärts

Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
Universitätsstadt Göttingen
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-----Original Message-----
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:36:19 +0200
> Subject: [HN] Luthin/ Weymar
> From: Wolf Igmar Mispelhorn
> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net

> Liene Listenteilnehmer,
> wer hat diese Namen in seiner AL?
> Ich suche weitere Daten von: Johann Jobst Luthin * um
1665. + nach
> 24-11-1685, Heirat am 24-11-1685 in Meensen bei Göttingen
mit:
> Anna Margarete Weymar, * um 1655, + nach 24-11-1685,
Eltern: Georg
> Weymar und Anna Maria Nolte.
> Wer kann helfen?
> Ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.
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>
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Re: [HN] Daten Freudenhammer (22 Jan. 2006)

Date: 2006/05/20 10:00:19
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Mr. Hannema,

Is belated reply.

And long shot.

There is biography of a Carl Firehammer born 23 May 1841 at Dabercow, Pommern. He is the son of John (born 1810) and Lotte nee, Schultz born 1821. J

John (the father) left his native country in 1854 and 1855 came to Dodge, Wisconson locating on a farm in Herman Township.

Carl "Firehammer" married Caroline Franke a native of Altruetnitz in the provence of Brandenburg.

If you would like this biography I can send .pdf.

Source Citation:

Title:  Dodge County, Wisconsin, past and present

Authors:  Hubbell, Homer Bishop.

City of Publication:  Chicago

Publisher:  S.J. Clarke Pub. Co.

Date:  1913

Page

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Re: [HN] Vater aus Toronto ????

Date: 2006/05/20 14:34:00
From: magenta <magenta4c(a)yahoo.de>

hallo ruth,

vielleicht irgendwie rausfinden*, in welcher einheit er stationiert war und evtl über die Canadian Forces versuchen?!
das telefonbuch findet 135 jack jackson. einfach mal anrufen :-D

* versuchen rauszufinden, wer noch kanadische väter in der gegend hat. vielleicht erinnern die sich?


bernadette


> Liebe Listenteilnehmer.
> Wer kann einer Bekannten von mir helfen?
> Sie ist im März 1946 in Cloppenburg nichtehelich geboren.
> Ihre Mutter hatte im Sommer 1945 in CLP eine kurze Beziehung zu einem
> Kanadischen Besatzungssoldaten.
> Die Mutter ist früh verstorben und hat keinerlei Informationen an die 
> Tochter weitergegeben.
> Im Geburts- und auch im Taufregister ist kein Name erwähnt.
> Die Bekannte hatte in ihrer Kinderzeit einmal einen Zettel mit dem Namen
> Jack Jackson Toronto gefunden.
> Eine Anfrage über die Botschaft war erfolglos.
> Was kann sie noch tun?
> Über jeden Hinweis würde sie sich sehr freuen.
> Danke.
> Ruth






[HN] Vater aus Toronto ???? > Korrektur

Date: 2006/05/20 14:35:17
From: magenta <magenta4c(a)yahoo.de>

es sind sogar nur 9 jacks:

http://411.ca/

bernadette




Re: [HN] Vater aus Toronto ???? > zusatz

Date: 2006/05/20 14:45:50
From: magenta <magenta4c(a)yahoo.de>

übrigens ziehen die kanadier in 5 jahren 10 mal um. 
also unbedingt in ganz kanada suchen! 

bernadette

> es sind sogar nur 9 jacks:

> http://411.ca/

bernadette







Re: [HN] Leaving

Date: 2006/05/20 20:34:51
From: maryjane O'C-L <maryjane_ocl(a)hotmail.com>


  Hi Jane,

  Have a wonderful  summer and I hope it is much better than the one we
  are having at the present time in the Uk........wet and windy !!!!

  Love MaryJane .

Re: [HN] On the tail of Johann Heinrich Decker

Date: 2006/05/20 21:23:46
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello!
     I was "cleaning out my inbox" when I came across this email and it
looks  like you never got a response.  I found this listing on a immigrant
ship in 1846:
    
172  J. H.        Decker       Hunteburg        Farmer    25
173  Engel        Grube        Hunteburg                  28

    Do you think they could be your people?  The trouble is the birthdate
seems to be about 10 years off.  That name of Engel Grube could be the
eventual wife?  Maybe mispelled?

    Here's the webpage and you can see others on the same ship:

http://immigrantships.net/v7/1800v7/johannes18461007.html

    Hunteburg is north and a little east of Osnabrück. It is north of the
town of Bohmte. 

     Maybe these are your relatives? The LDS have some church records for
Hunteburg (both Evangelical and Catholic).

    I don't want to mislead you at all.

Good luck,
Barbara

     There are several Deckers in the German telephone in that area today




on 4/30/06 9:02 AM, California Auto & Truck Specialties at
catsauto(a)earthlink.net wrote:

> This is a copy of a previous email that I had sent looking for help. I will
> continue to lift my sticky finger to the heavens until something sticks to it
> that will help me end my search, or until a bolt of lightning strikes it on
> some rainy, cold, gray, Northern European type morning that will also end my
> search. We have mornings like that you know here on the coast of California.
> It reminds me of Northern Germany and it makes me feel good.
> 
>> I have come to a brick wall so I will attempt to do what many professional
>> genealogy people do not approve of.
>> I will stick my finger into the wind and hope that something may stick to it.
>> Johann Heinrich Decker was born somewhere in Königrich Hannover in 1811 or
>> so.
>> I find him living in Indiana in 1847 in Santa Claus(Harris Settlement) where
>> he is found in the 1850 census. Also the 1860, and 70 census.
>> His wife was named Katherine Maria Engel (perhaps Grubein)  Decker and they
>> had three children who were all born in Ind.
>> I believe that they lived in Cincinnati but am not positive about that.
>> I will now check my finger every day and see if a miracle can happen.
>> Mfg
>> Jim Decker aus sonnigen Kalifornien
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Re: [HN] Leaving

Date: 2006/05/21 01:17:16
From: J b <johnbrene(a)hotmail.com>

Have a pleasant respite Jane. Wishing you lots of fair weather along the way. Whatever you do, watch out for various high flying Kennedy's, doubly so once the sun sets. My advice: take the bus - or order in - instead! Woof.

MFG und Sonnenschein, Jb

Dear friends and Listers:  Auf Wiedersehen for the summer.  I shall be
going to Massachusetts in a few days and unfortunately have no computer up
there. So it's up to you - John, Rena, Gale and everyone else to keep the
pot stirring until I return in mid-Sep.
I'll miss you until then.     Jane

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Re: [HN] On the tail of Johann Heinrich Decker

Date: 2006/05/22 06:51:31
From: Jim <jimcats(a)earthlink.net>

Hello Barbara
Thanks for taking time to send me this info. I will check with the LDS files
and see if I can find more information about Hunteburg. I looked at the
other names on the list and did not recognize any of them. I do have a
feeling that they from the Osnabrück as so many of their neighbors came from
around there.
Best regards
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "R&B Stewart" <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [HN] On the tail of Johann Heinrich Decker


Hello!
     I was "cleaning out my inbox" when I came across this email and it
looks  like you never got a response.  I found this listing on a immigrant
ship in 1846:

172  J. H.        Decker       Hunteburg        Farmer    25
173  Engel        Grube        Hunteburg                  28

    Do you think they could be your people?  The trouble is the birthdate
seems to be about 10 years off.  That name of Engel Grube could be the
eventual wife?  Maybe mispelled?

    Here's the webpage and you can see others on the same ship:

http://immigrantships.net/v7/1800v7/johannes18461007.html

    Hunteburg is north and a little east of Osnabrück. It is north of the
town of Bohmte.

     Maybe these are your relatives? The LDS have some church records for
Hunteburg (both Evangelical and Catholic).

    I don't want to mislead you at all.

Good luck,
Barbara

     There are several Deckers in the German telephone in that area today




on 4/30/06 9:02 AM, California Auto & Truck Specialties at
catsauto(a)earthlink.net wrote:

> This is a copy of a previous email that I had sent looking for help. I
will
> continue to lift my sticky finger to the heavens until something sticks to
it
> that will help me end my search, or until a bolt of lightning strikes it
on
> some rainy, cold, gray, Northern European type morning that will also end
my
> search. We have mornings like that you know here on the coast of
California.
> It reminds me of Northern Germany and it makes me feel good.
>
>> I have come to a brick wall so I will attempt to do what many
professional
>> genealogy people do not approve of.
>> I will stick my finger into the wind and hope that something may stick to
it.
>> Johann Heinrich Decker was born somewhere in Königrich Hannover in 1811
or
>> so.
>> I find him living in Indiana in 1847 in Santa Claus(Harris Settlement)
where
>> he is found in the 1850 census. Also the 1860, and 70 census.
>> His wife was named Katherine Maria Engel (perhaps Grubein)  Decker and
they
>> had three children who were all born in Ind.
>> I believe that they lived in Cincinnati but am not positive about that.
>> I will now check my finger every day and see if a miracle can happen.
>> Mfg
>> Jim Decker aus sonnigen Kalifornien
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[HN] Lila Burmeister

Date: 2006/05/22 12:44:05
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Lila,

Did broad search at Ellisiland.org for persons from Bergedorf.

Noted:  Ship S.S.  America 19.2.1908 (Cuxhaven)


Burmeister, Joachim
"    ''         Franz
"    ".        Doris

Destination - Chicago Illinois!
This family has a br.in.l. Carl Schroeder (I think?)

I noticed also this burial data - Of course I don't know if related to your Burmeisters or the Burmeisters from Bergedorf.

http://www.aurcem.com/Sect%20HW/lot_hw-18.htm

Barbie-Lew

Thought interesting because Bergedorf is where my grandfather Edmund Sahs/Sass was from.

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[HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS

Date: 2006/05/22 13:31:57
From: Rena McCarthy <rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk>

Hi,

I look for help to find the origins of a couple who married in Hull, England 1869.  Maybe they met each other in England.

HAGEDORN Dorathea Louise Wilhelmine, geb. about 1842.
father :            Peter Friederich HAGEDORN (died before September 1869).

EHLERS        Johann Heinrich, geb. about 1838
father :            Johann EHLERS (died before September 1869)

In the 1881 English census they stated their country of origin was 'GERMANY' which may mean they were not from the area covered by this list.

I am searching for these people for a cousin who is descended from my own Flamme/Ehlers family from the Salzgitter area.   His wife is from the Hagedorn/Ehlers family.  I have looked in my records but have not found a Johann Heinrich Ehlers baptism.

Regards,
Rena, living in the wettest drought England has ever had :-)

[HN] Wittgräfe, Engelbostel

Date: 2006/05/22 20:21:01
From: Mattias Laage <geny(a)laage.de>

Hallo zusammen,

ich suche

Johann Heinrich WITTGRÄFE
   geb geschätzt 1785, gest vor 1842.
   Eingesessener zu Engelbostel im Alt-Hannoverschen

sein Sohn
August Christian WITTGRÄFE, geb 1814.
heiratete 1842 in Lingen(Ems)   Sophie Höcker

vielen Dank für jeden Hinweis
   
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Mattias (Laage)

___________________________________________________________
Mattias Laage ...........  F-Sauerbruch-Weg 25, D 89075 Ulm
.................... Tel: +49 731 57084, Fax: +49 731 57085
............... mailto:mattias(a)laage.de http://www.laage.de



[HN] Alte Waehrung - Old Currency

Date: 2006/05/23 17:47:58
From: Erika Trueman <erika.trueman(a)ntlworld.com>

Hallo an alle,

Kann mir jemand sage, wieviel 20 Taler gegen 1631 wert waren? Es wurde als
Preis angegeben, den mein Vorvater fuer etwas Land bezahlte.

Can someone tell me, please, the value of 20 Taler around 1631? It was named
as price for some land one of my ancestors bought.

Vielen Dank / Many thanks.

Erika



Re: [HN] Leaving

Date: 2006/05/24 01:27:29
From: Captruro <Captruro(a)aol.com>

Dear Jane--We year-rounders on Cape Cod get very busy this time of year 
(making our money from the tourists who visit us here); however, sometime I wish 
you would consider a genealogy meeting as you have had in Florida (we have a LDS 
center in Brewster, MA, on the Cape)--maybe I'll see you in our Farmstand in 
Truro.
 
Claire Perry

[HN] Wo ist Johann Gottfried OHM * 1726, gebor en ? Er starb am 23.11.1781 in Börry

Date: 2006/05/24 08:12:47
From: alexaroettger <alexaroettger(a)web.de>

Liebe Listenmitglieder,
kann mir jemand Auskunft geben, wo Johann Gottfried OHM 1726 (errechnet aus
Sterbealter) geboren wurde. Er heiratete  am 17 Mai 1755 Anna Dorothea
Elisabeth Amalie SCHAPER * 1725 in Börry. Sollte jemand zu Ihr weitere Daten
haben, wäre das auch interessant.
Viele Grüße
Alexandra Röttger



[HN] Job titles

Date: 2006/05/24 17:30:49
From: pharmaxx <pharmaxx(a)charter.net>

Hello
While you guys are discussing the translation of old job titles, I have one also. The name of the occupation given to my gggrandfather is Erzgraber (umlate over the a). My German dictionay dies not list it. Also, his title is listed as 'jun.' Could this possibly be Junior? Son of? He is from Freudenstadt.
Thanks,
Max

Re: [HN] Job titles

Date: 2006/05/24 18:16:39
From: FuP Hestermann <frohestory(a)web.de>

Hello,

your gggrandfather ist digger of ore.

Junior means that there is an elder father or grandfather or perhaps uncle
who has the same first name.

regards

Felicitas und Peter (Hestermann)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
> [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of
> pharmaxx(a)charter.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:31 PM
> To: Hannover List
> Subject: [HN] Job titles
>
>
> Hello
> While you guys are discussing the translation of old job titles,
> I have one also. The name of the occupation given to my
> gggrandfather is Erzgraber (umlate over the a). My German
> dictionay dies not list it. Also, his title is listed as 'jun.'
> Could this possibly be Junior? Son of? He is from Freudenstadt.
> Thanks,
> Max
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Re: [HN] Job titles

Date: 2006/05/24 18:19:23
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>

Hi Max:

Edna M. Bentz (ISBN 0-9615420-0-4) lists Erzgräber as "ore miner (metalminer).

I didn't expect this, but my German dictionary agrees with you on jun being junior.

Gale

On Wed, 24 May 2006 8:30:36 -0700
 <pharmaxx(a)charter.net> wrote:
Hello
While you guys are discussing the translation of old job titles, I have one also. The name of the occupation given to my gggrandfather is Erzgraber (umlate over the a). My German dictionay dies not list it. Also, his title is listed as 'jun.' Could this possibly be Junior? Son of? He is from Freudenstadt.
Thanks,
Max
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Re: [HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS

Date: 2006/05/24 21:30:02
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hi Rena,

   my friend send me Ehlers data, i hope it is a help.

   Ehlers, Auguste Elise Frederike was born 14.5.1876. in Hannover -
   Lingen.

   Parents was: Heinrich Ernst  Christian Ehlers + Johanna Conradine
   Jordan.

   They marriet  at the 27.6.1870 in Hildesheim .

   Heinrich Ernst Christian  Ehlers was born  31.5.1840 in Flackstöckheim
   (by Salzgitter )

   His parents was Christian Ehlers and Luiese Kassler to Flackstöckheim.


   Some greats send Petra and Ron
   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS Gesendet: Mo 22 Mai 2006
   13:32:31 CEST Von: "Rena McCarthy"<rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk> > Hi, > >
   I look for help to find the origins of a couple who married in Hull,
   England > 1869. Maybe they met each other in England. > > HAGEDORN
   Dorathea Louise Wilhelmine, geb. about 1842. > father : Peter
   Friederich HAGEDORN (died before September 1869). > > EHLERS Johann
   Heinrich, geb. about 1838 > father : Johann EHLERS (died before
   September 1869) > > In the 1881 English census they stated their
   country of origin was 'GERMANY' > which may mean they were not from
   the area covered by this list. > > I am searching for these people for
   a cousin who is descended from my own > Flamme/Ehlers family from the
   Salzgitter area. His wife is from the > Hagedorn/Ehlers family. I have
   looked in my records but have not found a > Johann Heinrich Ehlers
   baptism. > > Regards, > Rena, living in the wettest drought England
   has ever had :-) > ______________________________________________ > >
   Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
   --- original Nachricht Ende ----
   --
   [1][site=fn&prod=chetools&kat=rub&tbl=webmail&ppos=14&TransactionID=11
   48498994387708&rgtg=256] 

Verweise

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Re: [HN] Job titles - Junior & Senior

Date: 2006/05/25 00:45:14
From: Bonnie Hartmann <Gidget398(a)cox.net>

Junior and Senior didn't always mean father and son, or even necessarily imply any relationship between the two people. It sometimes just meant two people in the same village with the same name - and one was younger (junior), and the other older (senior).

Bonnie H.


[HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS

Date: 2006/05/25 13:22:13
From: Rena McCarthy <rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk>

Petra and Ron !!!
Thank you! thank you! for the information for my relative.

I am also excited to find information of Salzgitter! :-))

Does your friend have information of this other EHLERS family living in Flackstöckheim (by Salzgitter ) ?

Sophie Christine Hedwig EHLERS geb. 16 Juli 1824 Gr.Floethe

Her parents were:
Ackerknecht JOHANN HEINRICH EHLERS zu Flackstöckheim
Johanna Katharina Mõlm zu Gr.Flõthe

I search for ALL their Ehlers children because Sophie C. Hedwig Ehlers sent her 8 year old son away to England with a man who I think was a relative.

I search for an EHLERS man born 1829-1831 who did not marry in Saltzgitter area. I also search for all EHLERS grandchildren born in the 1850's in my search for Wilhelmina Flemme/Flamme. I found Heinrich Flemme aged 2 and Sophie Flemme aged 4 living with grandparents Heinrich & Katharina Ehlers in 1852.

Thank you again.
Greetings from England
Rena
=

From: p.kuske(a)freenet.de
  Hi Rena,
  my friend send me Ehlers data, i hope it is a help.

  Ehlers, Auguste Elise Frederike was born 14.5.1876. in Hannover -
  Lingen.
  Parents was: Heinrich Ernst  Christian Ehlers + Johanna Conradine
  Jordan.
  They marriet  at the 27.6.1870 in Hildesheim .
  Heinrich Ernst Christian  Ehlers was born  31.5.1840 in Flackstöckheim
  (by Salzgitter )
  His parents was Christian Ehlers and Luiese Kassler to Flackstöckheim.
  Some greats send Petra and Ron

  Betreff: [HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS Gesendet: Mo 22 Mai 2006
  13:32:31 CEST Von: "Rena McCarthy"<rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk> > Hi, > >
  I look for help to find the origins of a couple who married in Hull,
  England > 1869. Maybe they met each other in England. > > HAGEDORN
  Dorathea Louise Wilhelmine, geb. about 1842. > father : Peter
  Friederich HAGEDORN (died before September 1869). > > EHLERS Johann
  Heinrich, geb. about 1838 > father : Johann EHLERS (died before
  September 1869) > > In the 1881 English census they stated their
  country of origin was 'GERMANY' > which may mean they were not from
  the area covered by this list. > > I am searching for these people for
  a cousin who is descended from my own > Flamme/Ehlers family from the
  Salzgitter area. His wife is from the > Hagedorn/Ehlers family. I have
  looked in my records but have not found a > Johann Heinrich Ehlers
  baptism. > > Regards, > Rena, living in the wettest drought England
has ever had :-) >


Re: [HN] Wo ist Johann Gottfried OHM * 1726, gebore n ? Er starb am 23.11.1781 in Börry

Date: 2006/05/25 14:44:30
From: Daniel Franken <daniel.franken(a)daniel-franken.de>

Hallo Alexandra Röttger,

gegenwärtig bereitet der Niedersächische Landesverein für Familienkunde e. V., Hannover die "Edition Familienkunde Niedersachsen Nr. 6" vor. Autor ist Dr. W. Fredebold, Ratingen. Er schöpft seine Informationen aus einem Manuskript von Hans Börner, 1946, dass als Nachlass in der Spezialbibliothek des NLF vorliegt. Titel der Publikation (vorauss. Ende 2006): "Die Meierhöfe, Kötner- und Beibauerstellen in Bessinghausen und Börry, Amt Grohnde, Kreis Hameln-Pyrmont
Besitzerfolgen und Vorfahrenlisten Hannover 2006".

Der mir zur Edition und Drucklegung anvertraute Text enthält leider auch nicht mehr an Informationen:

Ohm, Johann Gottfried, * . .1726, Schaper, Dorothea Elisabeth Amalie, * . .1725, + 16.10.1783, ook 17.06.1755 in KB Oberbörry Urkunde 1755, S. 301, Nr. 4, Kötner in Börry
22, Mittelmüller, + . .1762 in Börry

Die Quellenangabe für die Heirat hingegen sagt mir, dass ein Besuch beim ev. Kirchenbucharchiv in Hannover, Hildesheimerst. ggf. Erfolg haben könnte. Leider sind mir gegenwärtig die zeitlichen Reichweiten der Kirchenbuchbestände aus Börry und Bessinghausen noch nicht bekannt. Vielleicht sind Sie so nett und teilen mir diese ggf. nach einem Besuch mit.

Kirchenbuchamt Hannover, Hildesheimerstr. 165, D-30173 Hannover, 0511 9878555 email: kirchenbuch.staki.hannover(a)evlka.de

Viel Erfolg!

Daniel Franken
Kötherkamp 59a
D-31228 Peine

daniel.franken(a)daniel-franken.de
www.daniel-franken.de

040-2716 77 88 Mo-Do HH
05171-23837    Fr-So PE



alexaroettger(a)web.de wrote:

Liebe Listenmitglieder,
kann mir jemand Auskunft geben, wo Johann Gottfried OHM 1726 (errechnet aus
Sterbealter) geboren wurde. Er heiratete  am 17 Mai 1755 Anna Dorothea
Elisabeth Amalie SCHAPER * 1725 in Börry. Sollte jemand zu Ihr weitere Daten
haben, wäre das auch interessant.
Viele Grüße
Alexandra Röttger


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Re: [HN] Wo ist Johann Gottfried OHM * 1726, gebore n ? Er starb am 23.11.1781 in Börry

Date: 2006/05/25 14:47:30
From: Daniel Franken <daniel.franken(a)daniel-franken.de>

Hallo Frau Röttger,

das fand ich noch nachträglich. Ein Müller mit Wandertrieb ...

Johann Gottfried Ohm, * ... 1726/27, + Börry 1762, Sohn des Müllers in Sievershagen Johann
Heinrich Ohm, Mittelmüller, durch Einheirat Kötner 1755 bis 1762;
oo 1755 Dorothea Elisabeth Amalie Schaper, * 1725, + 1783, Tochter des vor. - Gld 1759;
Amt 1762, 1764; KB Ob Bö 1755, 1762; KB Nd Bö 1783. -

Gld Geldregister Amt Grohnde: 1619, 1622, 1629, 1631 - 1681 jährlich,
1727, 1730, 1734, 1735, 1740, 1750, 1759, 1769, 1779, 1808, 1819, 1829, 1840,
1850, 1858. des 76 c Bb Amt Grohnde (Bestand NdsStA Hann?)
Amt a) Ehestiftungen des Amtes Grohnde 1705 - 1883, Signatur?
b) Ehekontraktenbücher 1719 - 1730 und 1743 - 1745. des. 72 Hameln A.V. 2
KB   Kirchenbuch (Ob)erbörry, (Nd) Niederbörry
Gruß Daniel Franken

Daniel Franken
Kötherkamp 59a
D-31228 Peine

daniel.franken(a)daniel-franken.de
www.daniel-franken.de

040-2716 77 88 Mo-Do HH
05171-23837    Fr-So PE



alexaroettger(a)web.de wrote:

Liebe Listenmitglieder,
kann mir jemand Auskunft geben, wo Johann Gottfried OHM 1726 (errechnet aus
Sterbealter) geboren wurde. Er heiratete  am 17 Mai 1755 Anna Dorothea
Elisabeth Amalie SCHAPER * 1725 in Börry. Sollte jemand zu Ihr weitere Daten
haben, wäre das auch interessant.
Viele Grüße
Alexandra Röttger


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[HN] Cole Camp

Date: 2006/05/25 22:12:29
From: JRodenburg <JRodenburg(a)aol.com>

Congratulations to Neil Heimsoth for fine interview and help with article in 
June/July 2006 German Life. I encourage all readers to subscribe to this 
magazine. There is also travelogue on city of Hannover in this issue. 

A happy subscriber und,
Viele Grüße aus Illinois
John Rodenburg
Rodenburg (Tarmstedt, Hannover)
Brunkhorst (Hannover)
Werner (Langen, Hesse-Darmstadt),
Steinke (Kreis Schlochou, Pommern)
Krause (Kreis Schlochou, Pommern)
Schröder (Warsow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin), 
Meyer (Wechold, Kreis Hoya, Hannover)
Zum Mallen (Schierholz, Kreis Hoya, Hannover) 
Röhrdanz (Mecklenburg-Schwerin)

Re: [HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS

Date: 2006/05/25 22:40:19
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hi rena,

   I thing, Ron dont havent this Information, i have send him this Mail.
   Sorry, my English is not so good. At time , he works in the moments at
   ather familie names, this here was a ...we said, a happy durch , or
   chance.

   Thank  and some greettings from Germany send Petra !

   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] HAGEDORN married EHLERS Gesendet: Do 25 Mai 2006
   13:22:33 CEST Von: "Rena McCarthy"<rena(a)rena24.fsnet.co.uk> > Petra
   and Ron !!! > Thank you! thank you! for the information for my
   relative. > > I am also excited to find information of Salzgitter!
   :-)) > > Does your friend have information of this other EHLERS family
   living in > Flackstöckheim (by Salzgitter ) ? > > Sophie Christine
   Hedwig EHLERS geb. 16 Juli 1824 Gr.Floethe > > Her parents were: >
   Ackerknecht JOHANN HEINRICH EHLERS zu Flackstöckheim > Johanna
   Katharina Mõlm zu Gr.Flõthe > > I search for ALL their Ehlers children
   because Sophie C. Hedwig Ehlers sent > > her 8 year old son away to
   England with a man who I think was a relative. > > I search for an
   EHLERS man born 1829-1831 who did not marry in Saltzgitter > area. > I
   also search for all EHLERS grandchildren born in the 1850's in my
   search > for Wilhelmina Flemme/Flamme. I found Heinrich Flemme aged 2
   and Sophie > Flemme aged 4 living with grandparents Heinrich &
   Katharina Ehlers in 1852. > > Thank you again. > Greetings from
   England > Rena > = > > From: p.kuske(a)freenet.de > Hi Rena, > my friend
   send me Ehlers data, i hope it is a help. > > Ehlers, Auguste Elise
   Frederike was born 14.5.1876. in Hannover - > Lingen. > Parents was:
   Heinrich Ernst Christian Ehlers Johanna Conradine > Jordan. > They
   marriet at the 27.6.1870 in Hildesheim . > Heinrich Ernst Christian
   Ehlers was born 31.5.1840 in Flackstöckheim > (by Salzgitter ) > His
   parents was Christian Ehlers and Luiese Kassler to Flackstöckheim. >
   Some greats send Petra and Ron > > Betreff: [HN] HAGEDORN married
   EHLERS Gesendet: Mo 22 Mai 2006 > 13:32:31 CEST Von: "Rena McCarthy" >
   Hi, > > > I look for help to find the origins of a couple who married
   in Hull, > England > 1869. Maybe they met each other in England. > >
   HAGEDORN > Dorathea Louise Wilhelmine, geb. about 1842. > father :
   Peter > Friederich HAGEDORN (died before September 1869). > > EHLERS
   Johann > Heinrich, geb. about 1838 > father : Johann EHLERS (died
   before > September 1869) > > In the 1881 English census they stated
   their > country of origin was 'GERMANY' > which may mean they were not
   from > the area covered by this list. > > I am searching for these
   people for > a cousin who is descended from my own > Flamme/Ehlers
   family from the > Salzgitter area. His wife is from the >
   Hagedorn/Ehlers family. I have > looked in my records but have not
   found a > Johann Heinrich Ehlers > baptism. > > Regards, > Rena,
   living in the wettest drought England > has ever had :-) > > > >
   ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing
   list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
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Re: [HN] Cole Camp

Date: 2006/05/25 23:48:44
From: Beardjf <Beardjf(a)aol.com>

John,
 
    I second your recommendation; I have been a  subscriber for years.  I 
feel the same about the publication of the  Sacramento German Genealogy Society.
 
Gary Beard

[HN] Attn: Richard Bultemeier

Date: 2006/05/26 23:47:52
From: Loretta Krumwiede Barlow <krumbar(a)comcast.net>

Richard, please contact me off-list regarding a Bultemeier family death.

Loretta

[HN] Grosse Genealgieboerse am 10. Juni in Osnabrueck

Date: 2006/05/27 22:42:24
From: Michael Ortmann <ortmann(a)osfa.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer,
Der Arbeitskreis Familienforschung Osnabrück richtet am 10. Juni die 
Norddeutsche Genealogiebörse aus:

6. Norddeutsche Genealogiebörse am 10. Juni 2006
von 10.00 - 17.00 Uhr im Solarlux-Forum, Bissendorf bei Osnabrück
www.genealogieboerse.de

Die seit fünf Jahren jährlich stattfindende norddeutsche 
Genealogiebörse ist zu einer etablierten und gut besuchten 
genealogischen Großveranstaltung geworden. Familienforscher können 
sich bei 49 Ausstellern, darunter 22 genealogischen Vereinen, über 
alles informieren, was mit dem Hobby Familienforschung zu tun hat.

Bei fünf Anbietern genealogischer Software kann man auf die Suche 
gehen nach dem geeigneten PC-Programm für die Ahnenforschung. Wer 
sich einen dekorativen Stammbaum malen lassen möchte, hat die Wahl 
zwischen zwei Stammbaumzeichnern. Der Heraldische Verein "Zum 
Kleeblatt", der die niedersächsische Wappenrolle führt, bietet 
Beratung bei der Erstellung eines Familienwappens.

Zwei genealogische Verlage, zwei Berufsgenealogen, zwei 
Sütterlin-Schreibbüros, mehrere Familienforscher, die 
Kirchenbuchabschriften anbieten und die Firma Ancestry.com runden das 
Angebot ab.

Natürlich sind auch das Staatsarchiv Osnabrück, das Bistumsarchiv 
Osnabrück, sowie die Forschungsstelle der Mormonen vertreten.

Erstmals finden parallel zur Ausstellung genealogische Vorträge 
statt.

Der Eintritt ist frei!

Informationen zu Ausstellern, Vorträgen und eine Anfahrtsbeschreibung 
finden Sie unter
www.genealogieboerse.de


Michael Ortmann
Vorsitzender Arbeitskreis Familienforschung Osnabrück e.V.


[HN] Famile Plasse

Date: 2006/05/28 09:34:42
From: Bodewig <bodewig(a)web.de>

Hallo Liste
Ich suche die Eltern von 
Plasse, August Karl, ev, Reichsbahn Oberinspektor, 
* Hannover 08.06.1889( kann auch ein anderer Ort sein), 
+ Hannover 18.08.1967
oo Caroline Dorothea Luise Frieda Plasse
Bei Family search finde ich viele Plasses doch fehlt die Verbindung zum Großonkel.
Vielen Dank 
Hans Bodewig

Re: [HN] Alte Waehrung - Old Currency

Date: 2006/05/28 14:02:00
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Mittlere Münsterische Kornpreise 1630-1639:

- 1 Malter Weizen 7 Taler und 23 Schillinge
- 1 Malter Roggen 6 Taler und  6 Schillinge
- 1 Malter Gerste 5 Taler und 25 Schillinge
- 1 Malter Hafer  3 Taler und  7 Schillinge

- 1 Taler = 28 Schillinge
- 1 Malter = etwa 11 Scheffel
- 1 Scheffel etwa 20 Kannen
- 1 Kanne = 1,3737 Liter

- und jetzt mal schön weiter rechnen und mit heutigen Getreidepreisen vergleichen.
Das Ergebnis bitte mitteilen.

Gruß,
Werner Honkomp

> Hallo an alle,

> Kann mir jemand sage, wieviel 20 Taler gegen 1631 wert waren? Es wurde als
> Preis angegeben, den mein Vorvater fuer etwas Land bezahlte.

> Can someone tell me, please, the value of 20 Taler around 1631? It was
> named
> as price for some land one of my ancestors bought.

> Vielen Dank / Many thanks.

> Erika


> ______________________________________________

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> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l



[HN] GEHRKE

Date: 2006/05/28 17:59:01
From: Klaus Kunze <KJ.Kunze(a)t-online.de>


Hallo Liste,

wer hat den Namen GEHRKE aus Alt-Wallmoden - Goslar in seiner Ahnenliste ???

GEHRKE / GERICKE   Heinrich Conrad             * 11.04.1784  Alt Wallmoden
                                               + wann und wo ???


                               00  wann und wo ????


BÜLTEMANN Johanna Marie Sophie Eleonore        * 21.04.1788  in Haverlah
                                               + wann und wo ???


Ferner suche ich die Eltern von oben genannten Personen.


Mit freundlichem Gruß
Klaus


[HN] KUNZE

Date: 2006/05/28 18:20:11
From: Klaus Kunze <KJ.Kunze(a)t-online.de>


Hallo Liste,

wer forscht im Weserbergland ? im Umkreis von Brökeln ( Bodenwerder ) nach der
Familie KUNZE. Der letzte Eintrag im Kirchbuch der ev.Kirchengemeinde Brökeln ist
von 1799.

                      Heinrich Friedrich Anton KUNZE    * 07.03.1799  in Brökeln
                                                        + wann und wo ??

                                oo wann und wo ????

Ehefrau  ????

Danach habe ich keine gesicherten Daten aus Brökeln mehr. Sollte jemand  in den
ev.luth. + kath. Kirchengemeinden forschen, bitte ich, wenn es möglich ist, auf den Namen KUNZE zu achten.Vielleicht habe ich ja etwas Glück.

Mit freundlichem Gruß
Klaus



[HN] VERWOHL

Date: 2006/05/28 18:29:24
From: Klaus Kunze <KJ.Kunze(a)t-online.de>


Hallo Liste,

wer forscht im Weserbergland im Umkreis von Holenberg / Golmbach ( Holzminden )
nach der Familie VERWOHL. Die letzten Eintragungen im Kirchbuch der ev.Klosterkirche
Amelungsborn ist die Heirat vom 11.11.1800

           Heinrich Friedrich VERWOHL              * wann und wo
                                                   + wann und wo

                   oo 11.11.1800 in der Klosterkirche Amelungsborn

           Wilhelmine Justine Johanne RITTERBUSCH  * wann und wo
                                                   + wann und wo

Danach verliert sich die Spur.Sollte jemand im Umkreis von Holenberg - Golmbach usw.
forschen, bitte ich , wenns möglich auf den Namen VERWOHL ( es gibt auch andere
Schreibweisen) sowie auf Ritterbusch zu achten. Vielleicht habe ich ja Glück.

Mit freundlichem Gruß 
Klaus



[HN] Mittlere Münsterische Kornpreise 1630-1639

Date: 2006/05/29 13:24:52
From: Erika Trueman <erika.trueman(a)ntlworld.com>

Hallo Werner,

Vielen Dank fuer die hervorragende Information ueber die Kornpreise. Jetzt
kann ich das so in etwa umrechnen, wenn ich bedenke, dass mein Vorfahr fuer
ein bestimmtes Stueck Land, das er dazukaufte, 20 Taler ausgibt. Das waeren
dann etwa 774 Liter Weizen. Ich habe mir das gleich kopiert und ausgedruckt.

Ich bin dabei, eine (deutsche) Familienchronik zu schreiben und fuer meine
(englischen) Kinder so einiges aus Familien- und Ortsbuechern zu
uebersetzen. Hast Du auch noch Informationen ueber die (allgemeine Groesse)
von Kothoefen? Oder Grosskothoefen? Was ist ein Halbspannerhof, oder ein
Brinksitzer, ein Ganzkoeter und Halbkoeter, ein Pfarrmeierhof? Auch einen
Ackermann habe ich among meinen Vorfahren.

Ich wuerde mich freuen mehr zu erfahren.

Vielen Dank schon mal im Voraus und Gruesse aus dem verregneten Yorkshire
Erika



Re: [HN] Famile Plasse

Date: 2006/05/29 22:46:33
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   In meinen Listen habe ich keine, aber ich weiß, in Celle wohnen
   Familien mit dem Namen Plasse. Hoffe es kann helfen. LG Petra
   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] Famile Plasse Gesendet: So 28 Mai 2006 19:35:57 CEST
   Von: "Bodewig"<bodewig(a)web.de> > Hallo Liste > Ich suche die Eltern
   von > Plasse, August Karl, ev, Reichsbahn Oberinspektor, > * Hannover
   08.06.1889( kann auch ein anderer Ort sein), > Hannover 18.08.1967 >
   oo Caroline Dorothea Luise Frieda Plasse > Bei Family search finde ich
   viele Plasses doch fehlt die Verbindung zum > Großonkel. > Vielen Dank
   > Hans Bodewig > ______________________________________________ > >
   Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
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[HN] Marie Hattorf und Herr Schrader

Date: 2006/05/30 22:19:57
From: Gernot Becker <Gernot.Becker(a)wtnet.de>

Date: 2006/03/02 11:17:28
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>
---------
Hallo und guten Abend,
ich komme erst heute dazu, meine "Weisheit" über dieses Paar einzufügen.

Der Herr Kämmerer Schrader war insgesamt viermal verheiratet. Frau Hattorf
hat ihn überlebt und noch ein (mindestens) drittes Mal geheiratet.

Nachstehend meine Liste SCHRADER  (An dem Wappen Schrader, das ich bisher
nicht kenne, wäre ich sehr interessiert).

Schrader

10. Generation

637.  Schrader, Anna Illina (Juliana)
  geb. Wildemann 12.12.1690;
  get.  Wildemann 13.12.1690;
  gest. Langelsheim 03.04.1758;
  begr. Langelsheim 06.04.1758

 "Ao.1690 haben tauffen laßen ...; d. 13. Xbr. H(err) Hier.SCHRADER, eine
Tochter benahmet; Anna Illina, deren Tauffzeugen gewesen; 1. Uxor des
Hüttenm(eisters) H(errn) SCHLÖßER; 2. Vidua POSTERSHAUSEN; 3. Ux. Thiele
WALTER";
 Aufgebot Langelsheim 13. u.20.7.1710; (Dom.IV. et V p.Trin.);
 Gestorben Langelsheim 3.April , begraben 6. April 1758:
 "des Herrn Johann SEUTHER Witwe, 68 Jahre" (Q.3);
 Q: 1. KB. Taufreg. der ev.luth. Kirche Wildemann;
 2. Hess.Familienkunde 1960/61, S.392;
 3. KB Langelsheim Sterbereg. S.397,Nr.34,1758, Braunschw.;
Staatsarchiv,Wolfenbüttel;

 verh.  Wildemann 1710
 Seuther, Johann;
 Kaufmann;
 geb. Falkenhagen 07.02.1681
 gest. Falkenhagen 14.05.1752
 begr. Falkenhagen 19.05.1752

 Kind:
 1) Seuther; Christian Henrich; Kaufmann; T  Langelsheim 06.01.1724; D
Langelsheim 24.02.1767
 verh.  Seesen 25.09.1753
 Tiemann; Sophie Elisabeth; G  Seesen 04.02.1731; T  Seesen 07.12.1731; D
Langelsheim 09.04.1771; B  Langelsheim 12.04.1771

11. Generation

1274. Schrader, Johann Hieronymus
  Bürger und Kaufmann in Wildemann; (Q.1)
  geb. Osterode, Harz um 1666;
  gest. Wildemann Donca.23 post Trinitat. 1699
  "Ao.1689 sind alhir ehlig copuliret ...; Dnca.Cantate H(err) Johan
Hieronymus SCHRADER, ein Handelsmann alhir, filius H(errn) Mich. SCHRADERN,
auß Osteroden; und J(ungfer) Dorothea Catharina WALTER, filia H(errn); Joh.
Adam WALTERS. " (Q.3);
 Gest. Wildemann Donca.23 post Trinitat. "Herr Johan Hieronimus SCHRADER,
gewesener Kauffman alhier, welcher an einem schädlichen Zufall gestorben
ao.aet.33.Jahr 7 Wochen und 5 Tage" (Q.2);
 Q: 1. KB Langelsheim (Heirat d. To. Anna Illina,1710);  2. KB Wildemann
Sterbereg.1699;  3. KB Wildemann, Traureg. 1689;

 verh. Wildemann, (Dnca. Cantate) 1689
 Walter, Dorothea Catherina
 geb. Wildemann 1667;
 get.  Wildemann, 4.Sonnt.n.Ostern 1667;
 gest.  Goslar

 Kind:
 1) Schrader; Anna Juliana Illina; G  Wildemann 12.12.1690; T  Wildemann
13.12.1690; D  Langelsheim 03.04.1758; B  Langelsheim 06.04.1758
 verh.  Wildemann 1710
 Seuther; Johann; Kaufmann; G  Falkenhagen 07.02.1681; D  Falkenhagen
14.05.1752; B  Falkenhagen 19.05.1752

12. Generation

2548. Schrader, Michael
  1678 Ratsherr in Osterode/Harz; 1689 Kämmerer;
  gest.  Osterode vor 1699
 Kopfst.beschr.1689,Bd.11,S.316,Osterode, Bürgersch. am Kohlmarkt: "Michael
SCHRADER, Kämmerer (4 Th.) oo NN (1 Th.18Gr); Base N.N. (12 Gr.),Magd
N.N.(12 Gr.) - (4)      Anm.1678: Ratsherr, Vorname der Frau Catharina.
  KB. Trauungen Nr. 1034, Osterode, St. Aegidien, 26.04.1640;  Michael
Schrader verh. mit Orthia Ruier (Nachname unleserlich); KB. Trauungen Nr. 4,
Osterode, St.Jacobi, 27.04.1640;  Michel Schrader verh. Dorothea Elisabeth
Roer (Nachname unleserlich); ;
 Q: 1. Kopfsteuerbeschr.Bd.11,S.316,Osterode;

 verh. 1. Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien 26.04.1640 (Nr.1034)
           Osterode, St. Jacobi  27.04.1640 (Nr. 4)  mit
 Roer (?), Dorothea Elisabeth
 gest.  Osterode  vor 1655

 verh. 2 Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien 18.02.1655 (Nr.1523)
 Nöse, Catharina
 gest. Osterode vo5 1662

 verh. 3. Ehe  Osterode St.Aegidien 27.05.1662 (Nr.1732)
              (KB: Herr Michael Schrader, Witwer, Rathsverwandter und
Handelsmann)
2549. Ilse, Maria Margarethe
   (V.: Herr Johann Ilse, Pfarrer zu Ellensen und Einbeck)
 geb.  Ellensen um 1640
 gest. Osterode um 1689/1691

 verh. 4. Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien 20.10.1691 (Nr.2557) mit
   (KB: Herr N. Schrader, Cämmerer)
 Hattorf, Elisabeth Maria
   sie verh. 1. Ehe
     Hertzer, Georg, Rathsverwandter in Zellerfeld
     gest. vor 1691
   sie verh. 3. Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien, 20.06.1699 (Nr.2775)
     Ranke, Hinrich Gerhard
     Pastor St. Marien in Osterode
     (Witwe Cämmerer Schrader, Osterode)

 Kind 1. Ehe
          1) Schrader, Michael
   Bürger (1.6.1675) und Handelsmann in Osterode

   verh. 1. Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien 18.05.1675 (Nr.2097)
    (V.: Herr Michael Schrader, Rathsverwandter und Handelsmann)
   Volmer, Christina
    (Jungfer, V.: + Herr Johann Volmer, Handelsmann Herzberg)
   gest. vor 1688

   verh. 2. Ehe Osterode St.Aegidien 24.09.1688 (Nr. 2469)
    (Michel Schrader, Handelsmann, Osterode)
   Struve, Ilsebei
    (Witwe Christopher Glaser, Clausthal)


 Kind 3. Ehe
 1) Schrader; Johann Hieronymus; Kaufmann; G  Osterode, Harz um 1666; D
Wildemann 1699
 verh. Wildemann, (Dnca.Cantate) 1689
 Walter; Dorothea Catherina; G  Wildemann 1667; T  Wildemann,
4.Sonnt.n.Ostern 1667; D  Goslar

Ganz hervorragend das Trauregister von Osterode unter

http://www.zeisberg-laudert.de/index.php?module=Static_Docs&func=view&f=trauregister/eingabe.html

Sollte jemand Ergänzungen und Berichtigungen anbringen können, würde ich
mich freuen.

Gernot Becker
Gernot.Becker(a)wtnet.de



Hallo liebe Listenmitglieder

Nachdem ich jetzt ein paarmal irgendwie den Namen Schrader in der Liste
wahrgenommen habe, ist mir wieder eingefallen, daß mein Vater mir einen
Ordner
mit Abbildungen von Familienwappen hinterlassen hat.

Ich habe daraufhin nachgesehen und finde dort ein Wappen einer Familie
Schrader aus Osterode.
Auf dem beiliegenden Zettel, steht:

Wappen Schrader
wurde vom Familienverband Schrader zur Verfügung gestellt.
Am 20.10.1691 heiratete Marie Hattorf den Kämmerer Schrader in  Osterode.

Soweit so gut, nur finde ich im Stammbaum Osterode und auch den restlichen
Stammbaumteilen weder eine Marie Hattorf noch einen Herrn Schrader.

Kennt jemand eine der Personen?

Vielen Dank und schöne Grüße



[HN] cementary documents Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana

Date: 2006/05/31 09:17:14
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Who can help? I need burial documents of:

- John Henry Niehaus, emigrated before 1839 from Damme to USA,
  died on December 24, 1901 in Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana

Should be born April 17, 1814 in Damme, but the date of birth is wrong, no parents is given.
Married 1839 Cumberland, Maryland to Maria Agnes Grevenkamp.

- Herman Ruhe, should be born May 27, 1829 in Damme, but must be wrong,
  married in USA to Bernardina Rottinghaus from Damme,
  died on June 2, 1902 in Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana

I hope to find the names of the parents.

Thank you,
Werner Honkomp
---------------------------------------------------------
Werner Honkomp                  werner(a)honkomp.de
Ziegelhofstr. 35b                    www.honkomp.de
26121 Oldenburg                 Tel: 0441-87230, Fax: 0441-883499

[HN] Vardegötzen.

Date: 2006/05/31 10:00:05
From: Rolf Kammer <rokammer(a)t-online.de>

Liebe Freunde. Ich suche Informationen über die Arbeit von sogenannten " Sachsengängern" (Saisonarbeiter aus der Posener Region) in oder um Vardegötzen. Freundliche Grüße. Rolf Kammer, Remscheider Str. 16/40, 01696 Pirna

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[HN] off-topic: Computerproblem Windows - Apple

Date: 2006/05/31 10:09:53
From: Oliver Bund <ollibund(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Liste,

ich hoffe hier kann mir evtl. jemand weiter helfen. Ich habe einem Bekannten in Amerika ein paar Filme über Lingen geschickt, da seine Vorfahren aus Lingen kommen. 
Ich habe sie mit meinem "Windows-Rechner" gemacht und als mpg Datei gebrannt auf einer CD-R
Er hat einen Apple Computer und kann die CD's nicht öffnen, was sehr schade ist.

Die Frage ist, Warum und was kann man machen, damit er die Filme sehen kann ?

I sent to an acquaintance in America a few films over Lingen, because his ancestors come from Lingen.  
I made it with my "Windows computer" and as mpg file burned on a CD-R. He has a Apple computer and can the CD's not open
The question is, why and which one can make, so that he can see the films?    

Sorry for my bad english..:-))

Viele Grüße und Danke

Heike (Bund)

[HN] Croupp

Date: 2006/05/31 12:56:27
From: Oliver Bund <ollibund(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Liste,

forscht evtl. zufällig jemand nach dem Familiennamen Croupp ?
Meine Suche erstreckt sich über Stade, Buxtehude, Bentheim, Walsrode, Celle

Die Familie stammt wohl gebürtig aus Frankreich, denn 1655 flüchtete der Marquis de Croupp aus Frankreich nach Deutschland und fand Aufnahme in Celle.

Alle Kinder hatten irgendwie etwas mit dem Millitär zu tun und waren in hohen Positionen.

Wenn jemand Daten zur dieser Familie hat, wäre ich doch sehr dankbar.

Viele Grüße

Heike (Bund)

[HN] Searching Engelmann Family name

Date: 2006/05/31 13:39:03
From: Frost Nite <frost_nite(a)hotmail.com>

Hello I'm searching for Engelmann's that came from the old kingdom of hannover. I belive the city is called Schlemm*, not completely sure about the spelling. My great... grandfather's name was Christioph* or Christopher* Engelmann. He came to the U.S. in 1845, and settled in MO.

please contact me back at frost_nite(a)hotmail.com



Re: [HN] Croupp

Date: 2006/05/31 14:20:58
From: Harald Kemm <harald.kemm(a)freenet.de>


----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Bund" <ollibund(a)gmx.de> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>; "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>; <famnord(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: [HN] Croupp


Hallo Liste,

forscht evtl. zufällig jemand nach dem Familiennamen Croupp ?
Meine Suche erstreckt sich über Stade, Buxtehude, Bentheim, Walsrode, Celle

Die Familie stammt wohl gebürtig aus Frankreich, denn 1655 flüchtete der Marquis de Croupp aus Frankreich nach Deutschland und fand Aufnahme in Celle.

Alle Kinder hatten irgendwie etwas mit dem Millitär zu tun und waren in hohen Positionen.

Wenn jemand Daten zur dieser Familie hat, wäre ich doch sehr dankbar.

Viele Grüße

Heike (Bund)



Hallo Heike,

in den Offizierslisten der churhannoverschen Armee sind folgende Einträge zu finden:

5. Inf.-Regt. A  1773 = Johann Gotthelf Croupp
                       1789 =   dito
                       1791 =   dito  = 9. Komp.
5. Inf.-Regt. B  1763 = Johann Gotthelf Croupp
6. Inf.-Regt. A  1793 = Johann Gotthelf Croupp,  Oberstleutnant

5. Inf.-Regt. A  1802 = Christian Heinrich Croupp

5. Inf.-Regt. B  1708 = Johann Georg Croupp

5. Inf.-Regt. B  1737 = Johann Christoph Crupp (Krupp), Capitänleutnant

Dazu müsstest Du allerdings im Hannov. Hauptstaatsarchiv nachfragen ob es dafür noch Stammrollen gibt.

MfG aus Barsinghausen

Harald (Kemm)


Familienforschung Kemm
Postfach 1409
30884 Barsinghausen
harald.kemm(a)freenet.de

Re: [HN] cementary documents Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana

Date: 2006/05/31 16:05:44
From: Cindy Ball <jordon85(a)earthlink.net>

Werner,
I just contacted the Church and they said there are about 5 other people
helping to get this info for you. The lady i spoke to said it may take a
couple of months to get to but she would get.
>From what i could find, they are buried at the St Ferdinand Cemetery.
Beradina Ruhe born 1 July 1834    died  5 Mar 1916 Section A
Herman Ruhe born  27 May 1829  died Feb 1902 Section B
Henry Niehaus born 17 Apr 1814    died 24 DEC 1901 Section B
Cindy


> [Original Message]
> From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Cc: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Date: 5/31/2006 7:38:08 AM
> Subject: [HN] cementary documents Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana
>
> Who can help? I need burial documents of:
>
> - John Henry Niehaus, emigrated before 1839 from Damme to USA,
>   died on December 24, 1901 in Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana
>
> Should be born April 17, 1814 in Damme, but the date of birth is wrong,
no parents is given.
> Married 1839 Cumberland, Maryland to Maria Agnes Grevenkamp.
>
> - Herman Ruhe, should be born May 27, 1829 in Damme, but must be wrong,
>   married in USA to Bernardina Rottinghaus from Damme,
>   died on June 2, 1902 in Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana
>
> I hope to find the names of the parents.
>
> Thank you,
> Werner Honkomp
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Re: [HN] off-topic: Computerproblem Windows - Apple

Date: 2006/05/31 20:00:05
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

On 5/31/06, Oliver Bund <ollibund(a)gmx.de> wrote:

Ich habe sie mit meinem "Windows-Rechner" gemacht und als mpg Datei gebrannt auf einer CD-R
Er hat einen Apple Computer und kann die CD's nicht öffnen, was sehr schade ist.


Apple Computer sagt eigentlich nicht viel. Die heutigen 'modernen'
Apples können natürlich multi-media in allen Formen verstehen. Also,
was hat er?

Fred




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730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120
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Re: [HN] Searching Engelmann Family name

Date: 2006/05/31 20:28:58
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello,
      
  On the emigration archives for Hannover, there are these names:

    Christoph Engelmann, Johann Heinrich Ernst, Wilhelmine, and one unnamed
child. They are all from Alfeld in Hannover.

    On Castlegarden.org there is this listing for Engelmann:
     Christ. age 20
     Christ. age 48
     Ernst  age   6
     Heinr   age  15
     Minna  age 45  (which is often used for Wilhelmina
     They traveled from Bremen on 20 Dec 1845 on the ship Brunswick.  These
people all were from "Germany" Schlemm, wherever that is....They did not say
Hannover. You can see the whole shiplist by choosing Ship Brunswick and put
the dates as 1845-1845. It appears that Germany was used as the origin for
all of them. 

     I don't know where Schlemm is.  Sometimes people will list a very tiny
town that doesn't show up on maps. Perhaps that shiplist is where you found
Schlemm?  There are 3 towns listed in my German autoatlas by the name of
Schlemmin.  None of those towns are in Hannover. That shiplist says Germany,
not Hannover. 

    Sometimes, there are small towns that people will list as a point of
origin, but it is so small and it is not listed in an index, but is on a
map. I looked around Alfeld, but don't see anything like Schlemm.

    You can decide for yourself if these are you family.  The one from the
emigration archives is from the Alfeld area.  The Engelmann family on the
two lists look very similiar. Do you have any other verification on the town
besides on the shiplist??

Good luck,
Barbara 
     
  
   




on 5/31/06 5:38 AM, Frost Nite at frost_nite(a)hotmail.com wrote:

> Hello I'm searching for Engelmann's that came from the old kingdom of
> hannover. I belive the city is called Schlemm*, not completely sure about
> the spelling. My great... grandfather's name was Christioph* or Christopher*
> Engelmann. He came to the U.S. in 1845, and settled in MO.
> 
> please contact me back at frost_nite(a)hotmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: [HN] Searching Engelmann Family name

Date: 2006/05/31 20:40:57
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Missed this the first time, but maybe this is the town: Sehlum is east of
Alfeld and south of Bad Salzdetfurth.  Depending how it is pronounced??
Maybe?
Barbara

on 5/31/06 12:28 PM, R&B Stewart at raybarbara(a)comcast.net wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On the emigration archives for Hannover, there are these names:
> 
> Christoph Engelmann, Johann Heinrich Ernst, Wilhelmine, and one unnamed
> child. They are all from Alfeld in Hannover.
> 
> On Castlegarden.org there is this listing for Engelmann:
> Christ. age 20
> Christ. age 48
> Ernst  age   6
> Heinr   age  15
> Minna  age 45  (which is often used for Wilhelmina
> They traveled from Bremen on 20 Dec 1845 on the ship Brunswick.  These
> people all were from "Germany" Schlemm, wherever that is....They did not say
> Hannover. You can see the whole shiplist by choosing Ship Brunswick and put
> the dates as 1845-1845. It appears that Germany was used as the origin for
> all of them. 
> 
> I don't know where Schlemm is.  Sometimes people will list a very tiny
> town that doesn't show up on maps. Perhaps that shiplist is where you found
> Schlemm?  There are 3 towns listed in my German autoatlas by the name of
> Schlemmin.  None of those towns are in Hannover. That shiplist says Germany,
> not Hannover. 
> 
> Sometimes, there are small towns that people will list as a point of
> origin, but it is so small and it is not listed in an index, but is on a
> map. I looked around Alfeld, but don't see anything like Schlemm.
> 
> You can decide for yourself if these are you family.  The one from the
> emigration archives is from the Alfeld area.  The Engelmann family on the
> two lists look very similiar. Do you have any other verification on the town
> besides on the shiplist??
> 
> Good luck,
> Barbara 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 5/31/06 5:38 AM, Frost Nite at frost_nite(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello I'm searching for Engelmann's that came from the old kingdom of
>> hannover. I belive the city is called Schlemm*, not completely sure about
>> the spelling. My great... grandfather's name was Christioph* or Christopher*
>> Engelmann. He came to the U.S. in 1845, and settled in MO.
>> 
>> please contact me back at frost_nite(a)hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [HN] Croupp

Date: 2006/05/31 21:09:21
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Hallo Heike,

   in Celle fanden sehr viele  Franzosen, die wegen ihres Glaubens
   vertrieben wurden , eine neue Heimat. Selbst eine eigene Kirche hatten
   sie, wenn mich nicht alles täuscht, sogar mit eigenen Geburts, Heirats
   und Sterberegistern. Später wurden einige Namen leicht eingedeutscht .
   Es gab in unserer Celler-Zeitung eine Serie über die Flüchtlinge ,
   muss mal sehen ob ich die noch habe.

   Liebe Grüße sendet dir Petra

   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] Croupp Gesendet: Mi 31 Mai 2006 12:56:50 CEST Von:
   "Oliver Bund"<ollibund(a)gmx.de> > Hallo Liste, > > forscht evtl.
   zufällig jemand nach dem Familiennamen Croupp ? > Meine Suche
   erstreckt sich über Stade, Buxtehude, Bentheim, Walsrode, Celle > >
   Die Familie stammt wohl gebürtig aus Frankreich, denn 1655 flüchtete
   der > Marquis de Croupp aus Frankreich nach Deutschland und fand
   Aufnahme in > Celle. > > Alle Kinder hatten irgendwie etwas mit dem
   Millitär zu tun und waren in > hohen Positionen. > > Wenn jemand Daten
   zur dieser Familie hat, wäre ich doch sehr dankbar. > > Viele Grüße >
   > Heike (Bund) > ______________________________________________ > >
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Re: [HN] Croupp

Date: 2006/05/31 21:43:27
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

   Habe noch mal nach gesehen aber nichts gefunden ! Ich weiß das die
   Deutsche Hugenottengesellschaft in Bad Karlshafen ? hagen ? ein Archiv
   hat. Des weiteren hat die Evangelisch reformierte Kirche in Celle wohl
   diese Kirchenbücher.

   LG Petra
   ----- original Nachricht --------
   Betreff: [HN] Croupp Gesendet: Mi 31 Mai 2006 12:56:50 CEST Von:
   "Oliver Bund"<ollibund(a)gmx.de> > Hallo Liste, > > forscht evtl.
   zufällig jemand nach dem Familiennamen Croupp ? > Meine Suche
   erstreckt sich über Stade, Buxtehude, Bentheim, Walsrode, Celle > >
   Die Familie stammt wohl gebürtig aus Frankreich, denn 1655 flüchtete
   der > Marquis de Croupp aus Frankreich nach Deutschland und fand
   Aufnahme in > Celle. > > Alle Kinder hatten irgendwie etwas mit dem
   Millitär zu tun und waren in > hohen Positionen. > > Wenn jemand Daten
   zur dieser Familie hat, wäre ich doch sehr dankbar. > > Viele Grüße >
   > Heike (Bund) > ______________________________________________ > >
   Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net >
   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
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