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2000/05/12 15:49:47 Stephen Kent Ehat Grauschoff |
Datum | 2000/05/12 16:42:29 Carol M. Duff Re: LAYMAN |
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2000/05/12 05:17:52 Jim Amaral Re: LAYMAN |
Betreff | 2000/05/12 16:42:29 Carol M. Duff Re: LAYMAN |
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2000/05/12 15:49:47 Stephen Kent Ehat Grauschoff |
Autor | 2000/05/12 21:21:04 Stephen Kent Ehat RE: GRAUSCHOFF surname Germany? |
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Date: 2000/05/12 16:22:50
From: Stephen Kent Ehat <ske(a)...
Dear Fred, Here is what I would do in your situation. It's called "the back door approach." I have shared this with others and they praise the approach as much as I do. It's simple. 1. You say your ancestor Frederick LEHMAN (spelled variously) "came to the USA from Hannover, Germany in the middle 1800s." From that I will assume that he can be found in the 1860, 1870, and 1880 U.S. Federal Census reports, and perhaps in the 1900 and even 1910, depending on his longevity. I would look him up on microfilm in every U.S. Federal Census and in every state census in which he appears and copy not only his family's entry but the entry for every family in town with the same surname (indexes help) as well as the entries for the families about 10 to fifteen houses each direction in the census pages surrounding each entry. Keep good notes of film numbers and page numbers. 2. Analyze the entries. You are almost sure to find not only that he came to America with one or more relatives but that they lived in close proximity to one another for a number of years. A next door neighbor's wife, for example, might very well be his sister; a man only three blocks away with the same surname might very well be his first cousin and the old man and woman living in that home might very well be that first cousin's parents, your ancestor's aunt and uncle. Some of these relationships can be pieced together with all sorts of sources: burials at cemeteries, obituaries, Centennial Histories (published count-by-county in or near 1880 in many counties in the nation), death records, mention of the names of witnesses to marriages, oral histories of people you contact with the same surname who presently live in the same town or county as your ancestor, etc. 3. Do someone else's genealogy. Whether it be the genealogy of a now long-deceased former neighbor who lived seven doors away and who had the same surname as your ancestor and whose family appears in the same town as yours in the 1880 Federal Census or whether it be the genealogy of a Lehman who presently lives in the same town now as your ancestor did then, you never know what you might find. Sometimes we feel like we have run up against a dead end on our own line. Often that is true. But if we simply find a sibling or cousin of an immigrant ancestor (or even a child of the direct-line ancestor, other than the child through whom we descend) and then do the genealogy of the sibling or cousin (or try to trace forward in time to discover living descendants of the other child), often we will find that the records of the sibling or cousin are more complete and fruitful (or that the living descendants of the child on the other line have oral tradition or written documents that will help us along). 4. For example, you state that "it has been mentioned by some in the familly that he may have been from the area known as Baden, Germany. But his Military records do state he was from Hannover." Suppose your family did not know that. You likely would not be contacting "hannover-l" if that were the case. But if you found out through the back door approach, for example, that some living descendant of your great grand uncle (your immigrant ancestor's other son), knew of the Hannover connection, you would immediately start to pursue that avenue. Similarly, therefore, imagine the delight if you were to find that in an 1880 history write-up or in a 1900 Census entry for your great great grandfather's brother (or cousin) some hint were made that he was from the town of "X"; I think you would say that the back door approach was quite fruitful. And if some descendant of your great grand uncle had an 1898 obituary that mentioned the town of origin, you'd be delighted. 5. Sometimes "going for the juggler" in the ship lists is direct and fruitful; sometimes not. But with this type of approach, knowing perhaps the name of one or more other possible relatives (even if others in his neighborhood have different surnames), one can even be more discerning when looking at ship lists. To devise an example that surely is impossible but which because of its extreme nature makes the point: If you were to find a ship list without your ancestor but listing instead a Johann LEHMAN and a Richard KRAUS and a Fritz MERGET and a Michael FRITZ, all of whose names (except the Johann LEHMAN) also happened to show up in a census in the same town and in the same neighborhood as your great great grandfather (who shows up as Frederick LEHMAN or LAYMAN), you'd be suspicious, even if the age listed in the ship list for Johann LEHMAN were seven years off of that for your great great grandfather. Sometimes they slip by the record takers. Sometimes they are listed with the wrong age or name or both or an incomplete name. But often performing the ancestral research on the neighbor or on the proven cousin yields the desired results within two generations. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: owner-hannover-l(a)... [mailto:owner-hannover-l(a)... Behalf Of SGO Design Studio Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:53 PM To: hannover-l(a)... Subject: LAYMAN I NEED HELP, I am looking for Different spellings of our surname "LAYMAN". The only information I have is that my GG Grandfather came to the USA from Hannover, Germany in the middle 1800"s. Upon his arrival here, his name was Americanized to "LAYMAN". He traveled here via an indirect route (England), and because of his enlistment into the Union Army during the Cival War, he became a citizen without needing to apply through the courts. It has been mentioned by some in the familly that he may have been from the area known as Baden, Germany. But his Military records do state he was from Hannover.I can find no listing on any ship records with the spelling of Frederick (Layman) (Lehmann) (Laman) (Leiman) (Lyman) that matches his bith date. Any help would be much appreciated. He was born in Feb. 1830 and may have arrived here around 1855-57. Thanks to everyone. Fred Layman