Date: 1998/03/01 04:04:55
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
From: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Date sent: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:56:42 +0100 (CET) To: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: BOUNCE hannover-l(a)genealogy.net: Admin request: /^subject:\s*help\b/i Angelika,I've noticed that you help a lot of people and would appreciate it if you could help me. My wife's greatgreat grandparents came from Germany and we do not have much data on them. Their obituaries list them as being from Nue Folkwerk or Neu Volwerk and Joenko CZ, west Prussia. Do you know if these names are correct and if they still exist? We have not been able to find them. Thank you ever so much for any help you can provide. John Phillips,johnp(a)gdi.net ============= using the word 'help' in the subject header will reject the mail to the list owner. FR
Date: 1998/03/01 16:24:55
From: Angelika Beck <AngBeck(a)t-online.de>
Guten Tag John, Sorry, but I never heard about Neu Folkwerk, Neu Volwerk or Joenko. I cannot locate them on my maps. Perhaps you ask in the Prussia-List. I for myself got very helpful responses there, as I could not locate a place for my own research. I will look for the places when I visit my library the next days and will contact you after that. Sorry, that I could not help more. Viele Gr"usse Angelika Angelika Beck Bielefeld, Germany AngBeck(a)t-online.de W. Fred Rump schrieb: > From: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Date sent: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:56:42 +0100 (CET) > To: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Subject: BOUNCE hannover-l(a)genealogy.net: Admin request: > /^subject:\s*help\b/i > > > Angelika,I've noticed that you help a lot of people and would > appreciate it if you could help me. My wife's greatgreat grandparents > came from Germany and we do not have much data on them. Their > obituaries list them as being from Nue Folkwerk or Neu Volwerk and > Joenko CZ, west Prussia. Do you know if these names are correct and if > they still exist? We have not been able to find them. Thank you ever > so much for any help you can provide. John Phillips,johnp(a)gdi.net > ============= > > using the word 'help' in the subject header will reject the mail to > the list owner. > > FR
Date: 1998/03/01 18:34:51
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
W. Fred Rump schrieb: > From: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Date sent: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:56:42 +0100 (CET) > To: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Subject: BOUNCE hannover-l(a)genealogy.net: Admin request: > /^subject:\s*help\b/i > > > Angelika,I've noticed that you help a lot of people and would > appreciate it if you could help me. My wife's greatgreat grandparents > came from Germany and we do not have much data on them. Their > obituaries list them as being from Nue Folkwerk or Neu Volwerk and > Joenko CZ, west Prussia. Do you know if these names are correct and if > they still exist? We have not been able to find them. Thank you ever > so much for any help you can provide. John Phillips,johnp(a)gdi.net > ============= In the zip-code book I found only 17179 Neu Vorwerk. It is a very very small village and not in my 1:200.000 map. The zip-code say, it is locate in federal state Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, between Laage - Dargun, 25 km south-east of Rostock. Joenko CZ must be in Chechoslowakia(CZ). Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/01 18:36:15
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
Dear Pat, I think your HARTLAGE is a hard nut. May be you need a professionel researcher. A good reseacher for the region between Bremen - Osnabrück and Oldenburg is: Falk Liebezeit Friedrichstr.25 49356 Diepholz GERMANY He have not own eMail-address, you can send eMail via his employer (town hall of Diepholz): Diepholz(a)datenautobahn.de Regards, Werner ------------------------------------------------------------------- Angelika Beck schrieb: > Guten Tag Pat, > > Werner forwarded your message about Hartlage to me. I do not > know any Hartlage who emigrated. > In the current phone-book I found some people with the name > Hartlage, who live in the near of the former border between > Hanover and Westphalia on the side of Hanover: > > Osnabr"uck - 9 entries Hartlage > Niedersachsen > Zip-Code 490... > > Dissen am Teutoburger Wald - 8 entries Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49201 > Dissen is located in the near from Bad Iburg > > Wagenfeld - 6 entries Hartlage > County Diepholz, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49419 > Wagenfeld is located in the near from Rahden > > Twistringen - 2 entries Hartlage > County Diepholz, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 27239 > Twistringen is located in the near from Barnstorf and Diepholz > > Bad Iburg - 6 entries Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49186 > Bad Iburg is located in the near from Dissen and Bad Laer > > Bad Laer - 6 entries Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49196 > Bad Laer is located in the near from Bad Dissen and Bad Iburg > > Bramsche/Hase - 4 entries Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49565 > Bramsche/Hase is located north of Osnabr"uck and Wallenhorst > > Georgsmarienh"utte - 3 entries Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49124 > Georgsmarienh"utte is located between Osnabr"uck and Bad Iburg > > Wallenhorst - 1 entry Hartlage > County Osnabr"uck, Niedersachsen > ZIP-Code 49134 > Wallenhorst is located north from Osnabr"uck > > It seems to be a very difficult research without more informations > than Hanover". In the region around Osnabr"uck the population > is mainly Catholic. If you look at a map, you will take notice, > that all mentioned locations are nearby Osnabr"uck. Perhaps you > can do a try with these places. I hope, your research will be > successful. > > If not done, visit Michael Palmers very helpful web-side > > http://www.genealogy.com/gene/www/emig/emigrati.html > > about German and American sources for German Emigration to > America. Maybe you find an advice for your research. > > Sorry, that I cannot help more. If you need addresses etc. please > contact me. > > Viele Gr"usse > Angelika > > Angelika Beck > Bielefeld, Germany > AngBeck(a)t-online.de > > Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/02 02:31:41
From: Bob Schirmer <schirm(a)hevanet.com>
I am a direct descendant of the family of Wilhelm Otto Schirmer and Charlotte Koerber Schirmer who lived in the village of Sharzfeld or Shargsfeld, Harz, Prussia said to be in the parish of Hanover. They came to the US in 1848-1850 with six of their seven sons and settled in Kentucky in the town of Ghent on the Ohio River. The oldest son remained in Germany. His name: Karl Schirmer, m. to Charlotte Weddecke. He was born in 1855 and died in 1898 in Germany. Am interested in any information about their home village, Sharzfeld or Shargsfeld; informaton about the son and family who remained in Germany or other Schirmers who might be connected to this family. Bob Schirmer Oregon City, OR schirm(a)hevanet.com
Date: 1998/03/02 03:03:53
From: SalomaB <SalomaB(a)aol.com>
Seeking info about the names MELKE, PROBST and/or BEARE. I have posted to this list before with no results. Maybe some new member has heard of my family. Hopefully, someone out there knows the name or names. Any information will be very much appreciated. Thanks, SalomaB(a)aol.com
Date: 1998/03/02 15:36:03
From: Suzanne Bunkers <suzanne.bunkers(a)mankato.msus.edu>
The name PROBST is common in the area around Le Mars (Plymouth County) and Alton (Sioux County), Iowa. I'm not sure where you are located, but you could use web phone directory resources to locate specific names and addresses of PROBSTs. On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 20:15:34 -0500 (EST) SalomaB <SalomaB(a)aol.com> wrote: > Seeking info about the names MELKE, PROBST and/or BEARE. > I have posted to this list before with no results. Maybe some new > member has heard of my family. Hopefully, someone out there knows the > name or names. Any information will be very much appreciated. Thanks, > SalomaB(a)aol.com ---------------------- Suzanne Bunkers suzanne.bunkers(a)Mankato.MSUS.EDU
Date: 1998/03/02 17:55:34
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
- Use electr. zip-code book to find the next greater village/city http://plz.postconsult.de/engindex.htm - Use electr. map http://www.mapquest.com - Federal states of Germany and Cities http://www.entry.de/english/ - Map of Germany in the year 1815 http://toadstool.2u.to/saxony/map1815.html - City-Guide Niedersachsen/Lower Saxony http://www.nds.de/stadtfuehrer/stdatfuehrer_eng.html - Use electr. phone-book to find surname and addresses http://www.teleauskunft.de - e-Mail addresses http://www.suchen.de Regards, Werner http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/
Date: 1998/03/02 22:11:23
From: Angelika Beck <AngBeck(a)t-online.de>
Guten Abend John, At first, sorry, but I have not found anything exactly about the mentioned locations. Using a geographical search engine in my library I got the following answers: Nue Folkwerk 1. Nowy Folwark, Wojewodztwo Chelmskie, Poland located south east from Lublin near to the Russian border. I am sure, that is not "your Nue Folkwerk". 2. Nowy Folwark, Wojewodztwo Kaliskie, Poland located west from Kalisz (former Kalisch)and north from Ostrow. 3. Nowy Folwark, Wojewodztwo Poznanskie, Poland located north from Poznan (former Posen) 4. Folwark, Wojewodztwo Elblaskie, Poland located south from Elblag (former Elbing) 5. Folwark, Wojewodztwo Koninskie, Poland located east from Poznan and Gniezno 6. Folwark, Wojewodztwo Piotrkowskie, Poland located south from Belchatow and Trybunalski Neu Volwerk 1. Neu Vorwerk, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern located north west from Demmin and south from Grimmen 2. Neues Vorwerk, Brandenburg east from Berlin near Alt Mahlisch near the border to Poland 3. Vorwerk 3 x in Niedersachsen and 1 x in Schleswig-Holstein 4. Wolwark, Wojewodztwo Bydgoskie, Poland located south west from Bydgoszcz Joenko 1. Jonkowo, Wojewodztwo Olsztynskie, Poland located north from Olsztyn 2. Jankowo 1 x Wojewodztwo Bydgoskie, Poland, north from Moglino 2 x Wojewodztwo Olsztynskie, Poland 3 x in other regions in Poland 3. Jenkove in Slovakia Please notice, that I do not know, if one of the mentioned places is identical with the places you are looking for. I have only an index about the larger towns with changed names from German to Polish after WWII. But I have the impression, that you have to research in the former German regions in the north of Poland. If you do not like to ask in another list I would easily ask about the places in the newsgroup "soc.genealogy.german", because without an exact birthplace the search is very difficult. Sorry, that I could not help more. When you have any questions please contact me. Viele Gr"usse Angelika Angelika Beck Bielefeld, Germany AngBeck(a)t-online.de W. Fred Rump schrieb: > From: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Date sent: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:56:42 +0100 (CET) > To: owner-hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Subject: BOUNCE hannover-l(a)genealogy.net: Admin request: > /^subject:\s*help\b/i > > > Angelika,I've noticed that you help a lot of people and would > appreciate it if you could help me. My wife's greatgreat grandparents > came from Germany and we do not have much data on them. Their > obituaries list them as being from Nue Folkwerk or Neu Volwerk and > Joenko CZ, west Prussia. Do you know if these names are correct and if > they still exist? We have not been able to find them. Thank you ever > so much for any help you can provide. John Phillips,johnp(a)gdi.net > ============= > > using the word 'help' in the subject header will reject the mail to > the list owner. > > FR
Date: 1998/03/03 01:06:45
From: John Phillips <johnp(a)gdi.net>
Werner, thank you ever so much for the info. If there's anything we can ever help you with on this side of the ocean, please let us know. I spent several weeks in Bremen in 1980/81. I was working at ERNO on the Spacelab. I really enjoyed meeting the people and the countryside. I didn't have time for genealogy until I retired. Anyhow, thanks again for your help. John Phillips
Date: 1998/03/05 05:42:10
From: JOHNFUES <JOHNFUES(a)aol.com>
I am looking for information concerning the ancestors of Albert B. HUELSEBUS
(or HUELSEBUSCH) born 09Jan1812. He emigrated to the US in 1874 from
Hannover. Prior to emigrating, I believe he was living in or near the town of
Steinfeld (Stenderfeld?), Hannover. Also I am looking for information on his
wives' ancestry: Hannah HES(S)ENIUS; Frecke HUSMANN born 19Mar1839, possibly
in Glansdorf Ostfriesland (or Glansdorp); and Gerda HARRIMAN(N).
John Fuester
Johnfues(a)aol.com
Date: 1998/03/05 06:02:10
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
In soc.genealogy.german, Jim Eggert <EggertJ(a)ll.mit.edu> wrote: jbeck88803(a)aol.com (JBeck88803) writes: > What was the that Hanover was called a town, what year was is changed to the > Kingdom of Hanover? I'm sorry, but this question doesn't parse. I think you are asking when Hannover was a town and when it was a kingdom. Hannover the city was chartered as a city in 1241, but its first recording in extant documents was in 1100. It joined the Hanseatic League in 1386. Starting 1495 it belonged to the Calenberg-Celle line of the House of Welf, and was its seat starting in 1636. It was the capital of the Kingdom of Hannover from 1815 to 1866, of the Prussian and then German province of Hannover from 1866 to 1946, and of the German state of Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony) from 1946 to the current day. Hannover the state was first an electorate of the Holy Roman Empire from 1692 to 1806. It was in personal union with Britain from 1714 to 1837, which means it had the same ruler as Britain, though it was a separate country. Hannover was occupied by the France and the Prussia during the Napoleonic Wars, and was divided between the French Empire and the Kingdom of Westphalia for part of this time. Hannover was a kingdom from 1814 to 1866. Its last ruler was the blind King George V, who fled just before Hannover became a Prussian province in 1866. As part of Prussia, Hannover participated in the German unification in 1871. After WWII it was briefly reestablished as a state, and then combined with some smaller states (Oldenburg, Braunschweig, and Schaumburg-Lippe) to form the German state of Niedersachsen. There is a Regierungsbezirk (district) in Niedersachsen called Hannover; its current boundaries were set in 1977. Most of this stuff you can find in a good encyclopedia. -- =Jim Eggert EggertJ(a)LL.mit.edu W. Fred Rump fred(a)k2nesoft.com 26 Warren St. fred(a)compu.com Beverly, NJ 609-386-6846 http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred
Date: 1998/03/05 06:20:45
From: JOHNFUES <JOHNFUES(a)aol.com>
Thanks for all of the information on Hanover. As I understand it, my great
grandfather was born in the state of Hanover in 1812, which you indicate later
became a kingdom. A family album I have shows the town he was born in was
Stenfelderfelt. But I was told by someone in Germany that it really must be a
town by the name of Steinfeld. Again, thanks for the information.
John F.
Date: 1998/03/05 06:40:59
From: Frank J GA <FrankJGA(a)aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-04 23:36:07 EST, you write: << A family album I have shows the town he was born in was Stenfelderfelt. But I was told by someone in Germany that it really must be a town by the name of Steinfeld. >> How about this: STEENFELDERFELD 5307W 727N Germany 251.6 miles WNW of Berlin <A HREF="http://www1.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm";>JewishGen ShtetlSeeker</A> (My personal favorite site!!!) http://www1.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm Frank Johnston
Date: 1998/03/09 04:53:42
From: Andrea Wetzstein <awetzste(a)ptialaska.net>
Is there a research firm or person available for the Hannover area; more specifically the Equord area (near Peine and Hohenhameln)? Please contact me privately. Thank you. Andrea Wetzstein (awetzste(a)ptialaska.net)
Date: 1998/03/09 05:16:17
From: Ethel Spiers <DIXIE1(a)webtv.net>
Is there anyone researching the AHREND family from the Lautenthal area of the Kingdom of Hannover? I would appreciate any help at all with my GGGF. Wilhelm Augustus Dietrich AHREND b. 3/6/1822 there. Any info. on the surname AHREND appreciated. Thanks Carl
Date: 1998/03/09 06:15:17
From: Wilfred Hoffman <hoffmann(a)telusplanet.net>
If Werner does not see your message -contact him direct.I beleive he can help you find proffessional researcher- http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp Wilf. Andrea Wetzstein wrote: > Is there a research firm or person available for the Hannover area; more specifically the Equord area (near Peine and Hohenhameln)? Please contact me privately. Thank you. > Andrea Wetzstein (awetzste(a)ptialaska.net)
Date: 1998/03/09 14:43:40
From: PHeisel <PHeisel(a)aol.com>
I would like the following information:
Where in Hannover did the ruling family live?
Any help with the name LIEBER. My ggrandfather was GEORGE
LIEBER born in Hannover. My ggrandmother MARIE WANNSCHAFFE or WAHNSCHAFFE born
in Hannover. MY grandfather CARL LIEBER was born Feb.26, 1860 in Hof, Bavaria.
Brother ROBERT LIEBER who came to U.S. in the 1880`s.
Pat Heisel
PHeisel @ aol
Date: 1998/03/09 15:14:18
From: Fred&Sande Kattau <fd.sskattau.kyzr(a)worldnet.att.net>
If you refer to the country for dwelling place of the Hanoverian ruker, it wasw in the City of Hanover in a (currently) park/museum on the southwest side. Of course if you read your history, you.ll find that a portion of the time was spent in Windsor castle near London. The Kingdom, as Kingdoms go, of Hanover, was sort of short lived. But that's another story from the history books. No secrects, just read. -- Another Fred =^.^=
Date: 1998/03/10 04:09:12
From: Andrea Wetzstein <awetzste(a)ptialaska.net>
Yes, Werner did respond directly to my message. Thank you for the information.
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Date: 1998/03/12 20:35:47
From: Kenneth K. Schubring <rkschubr(a)bellsouth.net>
I am doing research for my husband, Kenneth Karl Schubring, Atlanta, Georgia. His parents and grandparents are deceased and he is looking for any relatives of the following family. From our records we have been told this: August WILKE ( Came to America 1880 and first settled in Wisconsin) b. January 26, 1850 Berlin d. February 4, 1926 Manistique, Michigan m. Lissette PLAFS 1870 Hannover b.March 17,1854 Hannover d.April 27, 1927 Manistique, Michigan Their children were: Augusta WILKE b.May 29, 1876 Hannover d.November 22, 1959 Manistique, Michigan m.August 25,1894 Manistique, Michigan Carl Frederick SCHUBRING Their son Otto Karl SCHUBRING is the father of Kenneth Karl SCHUBRING Charles WILKE b. 1880 Germany d.August 14, 1915 Manistique, Michigan m Mary_____________ who was born in Wisconsin 1888 Twins born in Germany and died very young of diphteria Anna WILKE b.September 26, 1878 Hannover d.September 26, 1956 m.Jessie CROSBY August WILKE,Jr. b. June ?, 1885 Price County, Wisconsin Alvina WILKE b.January 28, 1893 Price County, Wisconsin d.December ?, 1982 Statesville, North Carolina m. Chris FREDRIKSON We were told that AUGUST WILKE and his brothers were in the weaving business in Germany. August decided to come to America after his brothers died of cedar asthma, today called industrial white lung disease. He brought with him many fine linens. Their final home was in Manistique, the upper peninsula of Michigan where they are buried. We would hope to get in contact with some grandchildren of the WILKE brothers or Lissette's family in Germany. We thank you for any information you can share with us. Ruth and Ken Schubring, Atlanta, Ga.
Date: 1998/03/12 21:43:39
From: Joseph Broom <broomjoe(a)email.msn.com>
I am very interested in corresponding with people who are researching in the
following towns in Ostfriesland (East Friesland), which was a part of the
Kingdom of Hannover:
NORDEN -- AURICH --- ESENS --- WITTMUND -- HAGE -- LUTETSBURG
My ancestral lines in these towns include the following names:
KETTLER ARENS GRUBEN BECKER
MENCKE HOPPE FRIDAG DAMMEYER
MUELLER HEGELER WIARDA STINDT
ALTENA VON HONARD/T KUCHENBAKER
Thanks!
Date: 1998/03/12 22:42:34
From: RNieh22936 <RNieh22936(a)aol.com>
Hello all, I am searching for traces of my GGrandfather Heinrich NIEHAUS, b about august 15, 1845, emigrated to U.S., to Cincinnati, Ohio before 16 November 1869, when he married Elisabeth FERNEDING b about September 27, 1843 in Oldenburg. Heinrich(Henry) d 14 March 1895 in Cincinnati, father of six children, including his eldest, Joseph, my grandfather. I am seeking confirmation of Heinrich's birth and Catholic Baptism in the Neunkirchen, east of Bremen, near Soltau-Fallingbostel, or in the Neuenkirchen near VECHTA, Oldenburg. These are the two likely towns of the 17 with this name in Germany! Any information on Heinrich's records or on his parents and other family members names, his emigration as a child or an adult from Hannover to U.S. would be most appreciated. I have NIEHAUS, BRINKER, BROXTERMAN Cincinnati family histories information to share. Thanks for any help. Bob Niehaus
Date: 1998/03/12 23:11:09
From: Mona J HOUSER <mona_houser(a)juno.com>
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:45:36 -0800 "Kenneth K. Schubring" <rkschubr(a)bellsouth.net> writes: >I am doing research for my husband, Kenneth Karl Schubring, Atlanta, >Georgia. Hi, Ruth and Ken, I 'm making reference to your other note. You had a first name Cutlip or something like that. It doesn't look at all like any German name I'd seen before, so I was saying it different ways trying to come up with a more expected name, and thought of Gottlieb just as I hit "delete". Have you seen Cutlip in writing, or is a name you've just heard? Anyway, if you can't find Cutlip written, try this other spelling and maybe you can find it. Just a thought. Good luck! Mona Mona_Houser(a)juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Date: 1998/03/14 00:29:41
From: Loretta Krumwiede Barlow <lorbar(a)fortwayne.infi.net>
Earl Armbrust wrote: > ---snip--- > > The following are from my research database. A few are my ancestors. Others > are from other genealogists, US church records, Germans to America, German > Immigrants Bremen to New York, and ancestral File. There are many others > from nearby villages. > > In Rodewald, I have BENNINGER, BERGMANN, BOETTCHER, BUCHHOLZ, DANNENBERG, > DEEKE, DEGENER, DIERCKS, DIERKING, DUENSING, DOVE, EHLERS, FIENE, GAYHMANN, > HARTJE, HEUER, HOPPENSTEDT, KAHLE, KLAUSKRAGE, KUEHNE, KRUSE, KRUMWIEDEL (I > wonder if that may be Krumwiede), I have to wonder that as well. I have someone born in Rodewald in one of my families, but not, I think, with the surname Krumwiede. Can't find it right now. Might be in my Theesfeld line. Wonder if Hartje and Hartke are the same name? KUEKER, LEESEBERG, MAGERS, MESENBRINK, > MEYER, PLUMHOFF, POLLWORTH, PRUESZNER, RATHJE, RIDDER, SCHARNHORST and > WIGGERS. > > In Steimbke, I have BEERMANN, BEUKMANN, BIERMANN, BOHNHORST, BRUNS, > BURGENAY, BUSING, DUENSING, HACHMEISTER, HASSELBRING, HUMPKE, KNOP, > KRUMWEIDE, There we go again, and I think either Fred Sprehe or his wives were born there. KUHLS, LUHRING, MEINER, MEYER, POPPE, There are some Poppes in Iroquois County, Illinois as well. Not in my files, BUT in the cemetery files you can reach from my page. POTTHORST, RODEWALD, > SCHARRINGHAUSEN, SCHRADNER, STADEN, THIES, THIESSE, THIEZE, VAN EMPEDE, > VOEGLER, VOLBERDING, Volberding, too. A Volberding family was instrumental in settling Buckley. WIHLE > > In Stoecken, I have EBELING, LUESSENHOP and WEGENER. > > In Wendenborstal, I have BRASE,DUENSING, HAASE, THIESSE AND THIEZE. > > Loretta Krumwiede, on her excellant web page(s), Thank you. was a Krumwiede immigrant > from Woelpke. That spelling is from the Germans to America reference. Since > there is no Woelpke and since there is a Woelpe (now is a part of > Erichshagen) in the Nienberg to Steimbke to Rodewald area and since all of > the villages mentioned are in this area, I believe that Woelpe is the > primary target village. There is a church symbol at Erichshagen in the atlas. > > **** Now maybe the best part *** > ---snip--- > > I hope that all of you find this helpful, if not, at least interesting. > Anyone else out there with immigrants from this area of the Old Kingdom of > Hannover? I, for one, am fascinated, Earl, and finally hopeful of information. -- Loretta Iroquois County ILGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/index.htm Ford County ILGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/index.htm Krumwiede Family Tree http://www.SwiftSite.com/loretta/index.htm
Date: 1998/03/14 17:38:58
From: Linda Marks Pauling <11870(a)www1.utech.net>
Hi Fellow Hannovarians! I have a book that was written in commemoration of the 1000 Anniversary of the village of Norddrebber, Gemeinde Gilten, Neustadt, entitled NORDDREBBER 990-1990. The history was writted by Herr Hans Ehlich while the other sections were written by residents of the village. Nearby villages include Stoeckendrebber, Gilten, Schwarmstedt, Niederstoecken, Rodewald, Grindau, Buchholz, Stiembke, Suderbruck, Nienhagen. The names found there in 1572 are: Johann BOCK, Dietrich BOCK, Heinrich THIES, Pawel MARTENS, Dietrich PAULING, Hermann BUCHHOLZ, Hermann RUNGE, Beneke LAMMERS, Johann WEDEKINDT, Johann LINCAMP, Johann MEYER, Juergen LUESSENHOP, Hermann ARPS, Arent ASCHEN, Dietrich LUEHRS, Wichmann MESENBRINK, Dieterich BACKHAUS, Heinrich ASCHEN. This book is in German which I do not read. However, one section lists each house and the people who lived there through the years. However, (and this is a big "however") this book is NOT indexed. I do note the following surnames are frequent in this village in addition to those listed above: DIERKING, RUMP, GLEUE, RIDDER, GARMS, BACKHAUS, BARTLING. On Haus Nr. 11 appears: 1875/1915 Adolf GLEUE - gefallen Im I. Weltkrieg 1916/1935 Witwe KRUMWIEDE geb GLEUE aus Stoeckendrebber erbt 1935/1941 Grossneffe Friedrich KRUMWIEDE - Elli OEHLERKING aus Hof 13 1941/1946 Witwe Elli KRUMWIEDE geb Oehlerking 1946/1984 2. Ehe mit Otto MINDERMANN, Ostenholz, geb. in Oberhode. I hope this helps some of you find the village of your roots. Linda Loretta Krumwiede Barlow wrote: > > Earl Armbrust wrote: > > > ---snip--- > > > > The following are from my research database. A few are my ancestors. Others > > are from other genealogists, US church records, Germans to America, German > > Immigrants Bremen to New York, and ancestral File. There are many others > > from nearby villages. > > > > In Rodewald, I have BENNINGER, BERGMANN, BOETTCHER, BUCHHOLZ, DANNENBERG, > > DEEKE, DEGENER, DIERCKS, DIERKING, DUENSING, DOVE, EHLERS, FIENE, GAYHMANN, > > HARTJE, HEUER, HOPPENSTEDT, KAHLE, KLAUSKRAGE, KUEHNE, KRUSE, KRUMWIEDEL (I > > wonder if that may be Krumwiede), > > I have to wonder that as well. I have someone born in Rodewald in one of > my families, but not, I think, with the surname Krumwiede. Can't find it > right now. Might be in my Theesfeld line. > > Wonder if Hartje and Hartke are the same name? > > KUEKER, LEESEBERG, MAGERS, MESENBRINK, > > MEYER, PLUMHOFF, POLLWORTH, PRUESZNER, RATHJE, RIDDER, SCHARNHORST and > > WIGGERS. > > > > In Steimbke, I have BEERMANN, BEUKMANN, BIERMANN, BOHNHORST, BRUNS, > > BURGENAY, BUSING, DUENSING, HACHMEISTER, HASSELBRING, HUMPKE, KNOP, > > KRUMWEIDE, > > There we go again, and I think either Fred Sprehe or his wives were born > there. > > KUHLS, LUHRING, MEINER, MEYER, POPPE, > > There are some Poppes in Iroquois County, Illinois as well. Not in my > files, BUT in the cemetery files you can reach from my page. > > POTTHORST, RODEWALD, > > SCHARRINGHAUSEN, SCHRADNER, STADEN, THIES, THIESSE, THIEZE, VAN EMPEDE, > > VOEGLER, VOLBERDING, > > Volberding, too. A Volberding family was instrumental in settling > Buckley. > > WIHLE > > > > In Stoecken, I have EBELING, LUESSENHOP and WEGENER. > > > > In Wendenborstal, I have BRASE,DUENSING, HAASE, THIESSE AND THIEZE. > > > > Loretta Krumwiede, on her excellant web page(s), > > Thank you. > > was a Krumwiede immigrant > > from Woelpke. That spelling is from the Germans to America reference. Since > > there is no Woelpke and since there is a Woelpe (now is a part of > > Erichshagen) in the Nienberg to Steimbke to Rodewald area and since all of > > the villages mentioned are in this area, I believe that Woelpe is the > > primary target village. There is a church symbol at Erichshagen in the atlas. > > > > **** Now maybe the best part *** > > ---snip--- > > > > I hope that all of you find this helpful, if not, at least interesting. > > Anyone else out there with immigrants from this area of the Old Kingdom of > > Hannover? > > I, for one, am fascinated, Earl, and finally hopeful of information. > -- > Loretta > Iroquois County ILGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/index.htm > Ford County ILGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/index.htm > Krumwiede Family Tree > http://www.SwiftSite.com/loretta/index.htm
Date: 1998/03/16 06:06:53
From: Fred Layman <sgo(a)adweb.net>
Can anyone help me. I am a point that I can't seem to get any more information. I am searching the surname of LEHMANN, first name FREDERICK from Hannover. Immigrated to the USA in the early 1850's via England. Changed spelling of last name to LAYMAN once in this country. He was born in 1827 and his father was also named Frederick and was an officer in the Imperial Prussian Army. I do find a Note of a Frederick Lehmann listed in the Index To Records Of Aliens from Pennsylvania. I also located a Friederick Wilhelm Lehmann born 1827 from (Bernickow, Brandenburg) who had a father also by the same name. This is all I have, I'm not even sure this is the same family. Any help would be appreciated. Any ideas? Thanks Fred Layman
Date: 1998/03/18 02:46:29
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
Also sprach Andrea Wetzstein on 8 Mar 98 at 17:57 about Hannover Research: > Is there a research firm or person available for the Hannover area; > more specifically the Equord area (near Peine and Hohenhameln)? > Please contact me privately. Thank you. Andrea Wetzstein > (awetzste(a)ptialaska.net) > Sylvia.Moehle(a)t-online.de does research in the Hanover area. Fred Fred Rump http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred 26 Warren St Beverly, NJ 08010 fred(a)compu.com or 609-386-6846 fred(a)k2nesoft.com
Date: 1998/03/18 03:01:25
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
Dear Folks Thanks to everyone for answering my question about spelling. I received 13 replies and found that in Neufirrel, the correct spelling is JELKEN. Sorry this message is getting to you so late - my isp has been down for two weeks. Diana Church new email dianac(a)mci2000.com
Date: 1998/03/19 22:00:38
From: RNieh22936 <RNieh22936(a)aol.com>
Dear Werner,
Many thanks for your information in the Vechta
Bishop Archive for Heinrich NIEHAUS. I am assuming the
names after <zeugen> were godparents or witnesses at
Heinrich's baptism. Was the Bishop Archive from a Catholic
record?
If I can help you with anything here in the U.S. please
let me know. We live near Charlottesville, VA, a beautiful area
on the eastern slope of hte Blue Ridge Mountains, where
Thomas Jefferson was born and lived in Monticello.
Regards and thanks
Bob Niehaus
615 Panorama Rd.
Earlysville, VA 22936 U.S.A.
Date: 1998/03/19 22:39:25
From: Peggy Pollitt <peggy(a)zoomnet.net>
1880 Missouri census states that my great-grandfather, Herman Hoberg, was born in Hannover. He was born c 1851-1852. I do not know when he came to America, but I know he was in Ohio in 1874, and living in Butler County, Missouri in 1876. He died between 1880 and 1883. I would like to find out where I could obtain further information about him. What agency, church, etc. could I write to to find out where in Hannover and when he was born and who his parents were. Sincerely, Peggy Pollitt peggy(a)zoomnet.net
Date: 1998/03/20 19:30:29
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
Maybe you can help a profession researcher near Hannover. The email address: Jens-Kaufmann(a)t-online.de Werner Peggy Pollitt schrieb: > 1880 Missouri census states that my great-grandfather, Herman Hoberg, was > born in Hannover. He was born c 1851-1852. I do not know when he came to > America, but I know he was in Ohio in 1874, and living in Butler County, > Missouri > in 1876. He died between 1880 and 1883. I would like to find out where I > could > obtain further information about him. What agency, church, etc. could I > write to > to find out where in Hannover and when he was born and who his parents > were. > > Sincerely, > > Peggy Pollitt > peggy(a)zoomnet.net Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/20 19:30:47
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
RNieh22936 schrieb: > Dear Werner, > Many thanks for your information in the Vechta > Bishop Archive for Heinrich NIEHAUS. I am assuming the > names after <zeugen> were godparents or witnesses at > Heinrich's baptism. Was the Bishop Archive from a Catholic > record? ----------------------------- Dear Bob, the Bishop Archive in Vechta is a Catholic Archive for the administrative district of Oldenburg. The translation for "Zeugen" is witnesses, but meaning also godparents. I think Virginia is a good place to live. Maybe I visite this region anyone. Regards, Werner Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/21 14:03:51
From: JBeck88803 <JBeck88803(a)aol.com>
Hi, I have a question the e-mail address that you gave for Jen-Kaufmann(a)t- online.de is it right, I tried it and keeps getting returned. Please reply as I am interested in finding someone to do some professional research for me in Hanover. Thank you, Joan Beckman JBec88803(a)aol.com
Date: 1998/03/21 19:28:58
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
JBeck88803 schrieb: > Hi, I have a question the e-mail address that you gave for Jen-Kaufmann(a)t- > online.de is it right, I tried it and keeps getting returned. Please reply as > I am interested in finding someone to do some professional research for me in > Hanover. Thank you, Joan Beckman > > JBec88803(a)aol.com -------------------------------------- The correct address is: Jens-Kaufmann(a)t-online.de You have vorgotten a "s" Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/21 20:35:16
From: JBeck88803 <JBeck88803(a)aol.com>
Thank you Werner, I will try that e-mail address, maybe he can help do some research. Thanks again, Joan
Date: 1998/03/22 22:28:01
From: Paul Adams <padams(a)summitsoftware.com>
My MUENNINK ancestors are said to have emmigrated from Hannover in the mid 1850s. They settled in Medina County, Texas, USA. Can anyone give me an idea of where to look to find their town of orgin? Are there any Muenninks in that area of Germany today? The Muenninks intermarried with the SAATHOFF family who emmigrated from Aurich-Oldendorf, Ostfriesland in 1846 or so. If anyone has any connections with or info on either family, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Details on the families can be found at my web pages: http://www.summitsoftware.com/pwa/interest.htm thanks, Paul Paul Adams / Summit Software Systems padams(a)summitsoftware.com 303-443-9866 x205 / fax: 303-443-9934 1966 13th St. Suite 200 Boulder CO 80302
Date: 1998/03/23 00:47:23
From: Wilfred Hoffman <hoffmann(a)telusplanet.net>
Imformation Available-Ernst Theodor Hoffmann-b-05-27-1837 Hildersheim Deu. Immigated to USA>Summer of 1856-Destination Unknown. Have name & occupation of parents.. Possible Brother & sister- Wilf.Hoffman hoffmann(a)telusplanet.net
Date: 1998/03/23 01:12:15
From: Jeff Nelson <kleist(a)ix.netcom.com>
I have been searching for information on Henry CARY for many years. His civil war pension files and census files show his birth date to be 1834 in Hanover, Germany. Since Hanover was a "city state" then, that is like knowing that he is from New Jersey! He emigrated to Shawnee Township, Allen County and first shows up on the 1850 census. On the 1900 Census, he shows as John Henry CARY. He was married to Rebecca WHYMAN of Van Wert County, Ohio. His son Nelson Lorenzo Dow CARY moved to Manhattan, Riley, Kansas. My grandmother, Florence Adelia Cary NELSON was Nelson's daughter. Any researchers on this line out there? I would love to correspond with you! -- J. Jeff Nelson <kleist(a)ix.netcom.com> Searching the following surnames: Nelson, Gudkjaersen, Lorentzen, Larsen, Cary, Whyman, Pitman, Strawn, Redd, Hancock, Workman, Turner, Bryner, Gubler, Worthen, Heaps, and their ancestors.
Date: 1998/03/23 01:18:26
From: Elaine Keeling <emkee(a)netbistro.com>
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I am seeking information about the family of my great
grandfather
John BARTELS b. Mar. 22, 1847 d. June 6, 1894 in Stephen, Minnesota his mother's name is listed as Wetta and his father Jurgen in his death registration. He is only listed as coming from Germany - however family believe he was from Hanover, Germany Any leads or suggestions for searching would be most appreciated. Elaine |
Date: 1998/03/24 02:05:54
From: RJH885 <RJH885(a)aol.com>
I would like to locate a copy of the book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus
dem ehemaligen Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika." Several years ago a German
correspondent sent me copies of the pages from that book that included my
Hilver/Hilvert ancestors. I would also like to have copies of the pages that
contain information about the following surnames: Rohling/Roling; Hovel; and
Buers. Many, many thanks for any help. Becky Hilbert
Date: 1998/03/24 03:17:36
From: James Maxeiner <maxeiner(a)worldnet.att.net>
Dear Ms. Hilbert, Your book is in print at DM 40 (circa $25). Here is the author/title information and ISBN: Tenfelde, Walter: Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus dem ehemaligen Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika ISBN 3-9800064-6-8, Linson, Preis 40,- DM. Anyone can easily search the German books in print (VLB) and get the books from Germany. Two Grman book dealers I have used for years (pre-Internet) with excellent results are: Struppe & Winckler (Berlin), website http://www.struppe-online.de/datenbank/vlb/index.html and Schweitzer Sortiment (Munich) http://www.buchhandel.de/cgi-bin/bksuche.exe?opacdb=VLB+Buchkatalog&Aktion=Start&Caller=47075 In both instances, these are the pages that search Verzeichnis Lieferbarer Bücher, the German books in print. The home pages are respectively: http://www.struppe-online.de/index.html http://www.schweitzer-sortiment.de/ Struppe & Winckler offers the choice of English for its pages. Both, I believe, now accept Master Card or Visa. Surface postage is cheap. Were you to order the book from either of these dealers you would probably have it surface mail in six to eight weeks. Regards, James Maxeiner
Date: 1998/03/24 06:10:44
From: Bob Behnen <rjbehnen(a)kvmo.net>
Becky, If you find out where and how to get a copy, let me know too please. Thanks, Bob Behnen ---------- > From: RJH885 <RJH885(a)aol.com> > To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net > Subject: Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika > Date: Monday, March 23, 1998 7:05 PM > > I would like to locate a copy of the book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus > dem ehemaligen Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika." Several years ago a German > correspondent sent me copies of the pages from that book that included my > Hilver/Hilvert ancestors. I would also like to have copies of the pages that > contain information about the following surnames: Rohling/Roling; Hovel; and > Buers. Many, many thanks for any help. Becky Hilbert >
Date: 1998/03/24 18:08:54
From: Werner Honkomp <Werner.Honkomp(a)t-online.de>
James Maxeiner schrieb: > Dear Ms. Hilbert, > > Your book is in print at DM 40 (circa $25). Here is the author/title > information and ISBN: Tenfelde, Walter: Auswanderungen und Auswanderer > aus dem ehemaligen Kreise Lingen nach Nordamerika ISBN 3-9800064-6-8, > Linson, Preis 40,- DM. > > Anyone can easily search the German books in print (VLB) and get the > books from Germany. Two Grman book dealers I have used for years > (pre-Internet) with excellent results are: > > Struppe & Winckler (Berlin), website > > http://www.struppe-online.de/datenbank/vlb/index.html > > and > > Schweitzer Sortiment (Munich) > > http://www.buchhandel.de/cgi-bin/bksuche.exe?opacdb=VLB+Buchkatalog&Aktion=Sta > rt&Caller=47075 > > In both instances, these are the pages that search Verzeichnis > Lieferbarer Bücher, the German books in print. The home pages are > respectively: > > http://www.struppe-online.de/index.html > > http://www.schweitzer-sortiment.de/ > > Struppe & Winckler offers the choice of English for its pages. Both, I > believe, now accept Master Card or Visa. Surface postage is cheap. Were > you to order the book from either of these dealers you would probably > have it surface mail in six to eight weeks. > > Regards, > > James Maxeiner ---------------------------------- On the same way you can order a good map of Germany 1:200,000 This map include the most small village and have a index of the next greater village/places: ADAC Reiseatlas Deutschland 97/98 ISBN 3-87003-753-9 DM 14.80 Werner Honkomp eMail: werner.honkomp(a)t-online.de Ziegelhofstr. 35B URL: http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.honkomp/ 26121 Oldenburg GERMANY
Date: 1998/03/26 02:20:21
From: Chris Lamesfield <cjl(a)tir.com>
Thought this would be interesting to some. >X-Envelope-From: BANAT-L-request(a)rootsweb.com Wed Mar 25 06:17 EST 1998 >Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:03:44 -0800 (PST) >From: "Bob Madler" <madler(a)sierra.net> >To: "Banat" <banat-L(a)rootsweb.com> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:59:38 -0800 >X-Msmail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >Importance: Normal >X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 >Subject: [BANAT-L] FW: Hannover Findbuch Project HomePage >Resent-From: BANAT-L(a)rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BANAT-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1981 >X-Loop: BANAT-L(a)rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: BANAT-L-request(a)rootsweb.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Movius [mailto:feefhs(a)feefhs.org] >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 7:57 AM >Dear Hannover genealogist: > >This is addressed to all persons who have posted on the HANRL (Hannover >Research List) FEEFHS Website. The cc: list represents FEEFHS leaders, >member organization representatives and others on my copy list. > >I thought you all might like to know about the "Hannover Emigrants >Findbuch" project that is being spearheaded by Horst Reschke. FEEFHS is >indebted to Horst, a Hannover native and columnist for Heritage Quest, >for binging this important project to our attention last fall athe the >IGS Seminar and in working with us since then to publicize it. > >Considering the difficulty of doing genealogy in the greater Hannover >area, due in part to the absence of FHL microfilm, I am sure you will >agree - after looking at what is being done - that this is a pioneering >effort on behalf of genealogists by the Hannover archivists. > >The best way to get an overview of the three pages posted so far is to >open the HEF HomePage and index at > > http://feefhs.org/de/han/hef/hfp-hp.html > >We are now seeking to make Hannover record searchers workldwide aware of >this project and of its need for funds to complete the work. > >Yesterday Horst FAXed me so sample pages he brought back from Germany >earlier this month. I am impressed with what I see in the kind of detail >that the archivists are extracting. I am looking forward to starting to >post the personen index and later the location index sometime later this >spring. > >I hope you will read the pages we have placed on line, make others in >your genealogy organizations (including the newsletter editor) aware of >this and will support this effort to underwrite the completion of the >project in any other way that you can. > >Sincerely, > >John Movius >FEEFHS Webmaster > > >==== BANAT Mailing List ==== >No part of these messages nor the archives file containing them may be published >or redistributed in any form by a "FOR PROFIT" or commercial organization. All >publication requires the permission of each message author. > > > >
Date: 1998/03/26 04:46:31
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:26:33 -0600 From: Diana Church <dianac(a)mci2000.com> Subject: Announce Hannover Chronicle I would like to reach as many descendants of these 14 different families as possible - however before I post it to the general mailing list, I would like to know if this is OK to do so. Please post the following announcement to the Hannover mail list if it has your approval. Thanks Diana Church dianac(a)mci2000.com The Hannover Chronicle is a newsletter which traces the migration and settlement of the following families: ADEN * DOORN/DORN * EHMEN * EILERS * FECHT * FOCKENGA * JANSSEN/JOHNSON * JELKEN/YELKEN * MEINTS * MUELLER/MILLER * REMMERS * SCHOON/SCHOENE * SCHUSTER * ZIMMERMANN These families emigrated between 1850-1880, from OSTFRIESLAND, Hannover, Germany to Illinois (Adams, Champaign, Menard, Sangamon or St. Clair Counties) and then to Gage County, Nebraska, where they founded Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church. In this community, Zion was generally known as "Hannover Church" for over one hundred years. For more information, contact dianac(a)mci2000.com Please write Hannover Chronicle Query in the subject line of your email.
Date: 1998/03/26 17:19:35
From: Rowena White <herbrow(a)pld.com>
RNieh22936 wrote: > I have NIEHAUS, BRINKER, BROXTERMAN Cincinnati family histories information > to share. Thanks for any help. Bob Niehaus Hello Bob, I have no help, only questions. Do you have any reference material from Cincinatti in regard to German immigrants, settlements, birth/death/marriage records etc. 1820-1830? My immigrant seems to have come a little earlier than most. George Henry Nodurft in 1820/possible name of father, John. All I know is that they came from Hanover. I have been led to belief that most records were lost. Thanks for any leads. Rowena
Date: 1998/03/30 20:45:18
From: Steve Knapp <sknapp(a)nova.wright.edu>
I am looking for information on the Knapp and Thuener families in the Hannover area. My ancestors were George H. Knapp and Elizabeth Thuener, both from the Hannover area. Born around 1870's and immigrated to Cincinnati in 1887 and 1883. Steve Knapp