franken-l - Nachricht 2001-11 00046

[gerald KISABETH <geraldkisabeth(a)...]

Dear Mr. Will, Thank you so much for the great translation, I really 
appreciate it.
As to your view on the Bajuwaren not occupying the area of the 
Fichtelgebirge area, I disagree somewhat. The area of my ancestors which is 
at the northern Oberpfalz/southern Oberfranken boarder is 
Wunsiedel/Marktredwitz towns. This area has many Baiern connections of the 
past. It belonged to Eger district which was in Bavarian hands well back to 
the 12th century. Many historians have informed me that the tribes occuping 
this area were the (possible ancestors of the bajuwaren) Narisci, Marcomanni 
etc... It was the major trade route used in the very first centuries but 
very sparsely populated. It was later in the 900s that the Bajuwaren 
migrated up the rivers settling in the the Oberpfalz area. I am told that 
the dialect spoken in Marktredwitz is a bavarian type as opposed to a 
Franken one. Also some Slavic tribes migrated west and were absorbed into 
the population. All old Germanic maps show the Narisci which was part of the 
larger Marcommanni.

I am still researching this topic, but it seems that this is true.
Thanks again for your translation & insight.

Gerald Kisabeth


> From: "Fritz G. Will" <santabwill(a)...
> Reply-To: franken-l(a)...
> To: franken-l(a)...
> Subject: Re: [FR] Translation from Franken History page
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:14:00 -0800
>
> Dear Gerald:
>
> Here is a translation :
>
> "Prior to the migration of nations, the Regnitz-Maun region was occupied by
> the Markomannen. Later, they moved to Bohemia and are considered to be a
> tribe of the Bajuwaren. However, to this day, the origin of the Bavarians
> has not been established definitively. What is known is that they settled
> near the Danube river around 550 A.D. and are comprised of residues of
> Celto-Roman population and Germanic mercenaries in the service of the
> Romans."
>
> In my humble opinion, this description is a gross simplification of a very
> complex situation. More importantly, the region of the Fichtelgebirge was
> not occupied by the  Bajuwaren or Bayern. I suggest you study an historic
> atlas. That will give you an idea what tribes moved in and out of that
> region in the course of time.
>
> Best of luck!
> Fritz Will, Santa Barbara
>
>
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