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[FR] Wer kann helfen....

Date: 2000/05/03 11:08:15
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Wer kennt sich ein bisschen im Raum Unter-Obererthal, Rossbach, Thuengen, Homburg, Holzkirchen, Geiersnest... aus?
Vielen Dank fuer Hilfe!
Bernd
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Re: [FR] Wer kann helfen....

Date: 2000/05/03 18:58:10
From: Ernst Dürr <Duerr-Wachengrund(a)t-online.de>

Was willst Du denn wissen?
Ernst


> Wer kennt sich ein bisschen im Raum Unter-Obererthal, Rossbach, Thuengen,
> Homburg, Holzkirchen, Geiersnest... aus?
> Vielen Dank fuer Hilfe!
> Bernd
>



[FR] Re: Mueller in Oberfranken at Wurlitz 1700s

Date: 2000/05/03 22:49:29
From: Lew and Trudy Lundy <tlundy(a)mstar2.net>

Stefan,

My ancestor Georg Müller lived in Wurlitz.  He and Sophia SCHERTZER of Rehau
had son Johann Adam born 29 Sep 1745 at Wurlitz whose wife was Anna
WINNERLING born 19 Aug 1747 in Wurlitz.  I have their children:  Johann
Georg, Anna Margareta, Johann Andreas, Margaretha, Nikol, Kunikunda and Anna
Katharina.  Johann Andreas migrated to Theuma in Saxony, he is my gg
grandfather.

I need information on Georg MÜLLER who was a Huf und Waffenschmidts in
Wurlitz about 1745.

Where were your MÜLLER?

Trudy Muller Lundy
tlundy(a)mstar2.net




[FR] Translation

Date: 2000/05/04 02:40:53
From: R. Gumpert <raggedis(a)together.net>

I'm usually able to puzzle things out with the travlang Translator but "durch die erfolgte Ehe der Eltern wurden legitimiert" has me stumped; can someone help?

thanks
R. Gumpert
Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints
P. O. Box 541
Enosburg, VT  05450
802-933-6248
raggedis(a)together.net
We buy and sell anything made of paper or with an image: books, maps, prints, photos, letters, diaries, trade cards, postcards, even those old love letters of Grandma's.


Re: [FR] Translation

Date: 2000/05/04 02:57:35
From: Warren and Vera Distler <warren(a)evansville.net>

by the marriage of parents taking place the child or children were legitimized
(would be my guess)

"R. Gumpert" wrote:

>       I'm usually able to puzzle things out with the travlang Translator
> but "durch die erfolgte Ehe der Eltern wurden legitimiert" has me stumped;
> can someone help?
>
> thanks
> R. Gumpert
> Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints
> P. O. Box 541
> Enosburg, VT  05450
> 802-933-6248
> raggedis(a)together.net
> We buy and sell anything made of paper or with an image: books, maps,
> prints, photos, letters, diaries, trade cards, postcards, even those old
> love letters of Grandma's.
>
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Re: [FR] Translation

Date: 2000/05/04 03:37:55
From: Ginger <gingerh(a)shawneelink.com>

"through the subsequent marriage of the parents were 
legitimized" 


Ginger
gingerh(a)shawneelink.com

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From: R Gumpert <raggedis(a)together.net>
To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:40 PM
Subject: [FR] Translation


>      I'm usually able to puzzle things out with the travlang Translator 
>but "durch die erfolgte Ehe der Eltern wurden legitimiert" has me stumped; 
>can someone help?
>
>thanks
>R. Gumpert
>Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints
>P. O. Box 541
>Enosburg, VT  05450
>802-933-6248
>raggedis(a)together.net
>We buy and sell anything made of paper or with an image: books, maps, 
>prints, photos, letters, diaries, trade cards, postcards, even those old 
>love letters of Grandma's.
>
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[FR] Re: Mueller in Oberfranken at Wurlitz 1700s

Date: 2000/05/04 03:39:16
From: Stefan Probst <stefan.probst(a)opticom.v-nam.net>

At 13:50 03.05.00 -0700, Lew and Trudy Lundy wrote:
-------------------------
> Stefan,
> I need information on Georg MÜLLER who was a Huf und Waffenschmidts in
> Wurlitz about 1745.
> 
> Where were your MÜLLER?

I have one Elisabeth Müller. Her son lived in Stadtsteinach. I therefore
assume that she was also from Stadtsteinach.

Rgds.
Stefan
 


Re: [FR] Translation

Date: 2000/05/04 18:05:08
From: Hanno Trurnit <h.trurnit(a)t-online.de>

Hi R. Gumpert,

the child was illegal when born. Parents married lateron, and so the kid got
legal ("legitimiert").

Hanno Trurnit aus Grünwald

"R. Gumpert" schrieb:

>       I'm usually able to puzzle things out with the travlang Translator
> but "durch die erfolgte Ehe der Eltern wurden legitimiert" has me stumped;
> can someone help?
>
> thanks
> R. Gumpert
> Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints
> P. O. Box 541
> Enosburg, VT  05450
> 802-933-6248
> raggedis(a)together.net
> We buy and sell anything made of paper or with an image: books, maps,
> prints, photos, letters, diaries, trade cards, postcards, even those old
> love letters of Grandma's.
>
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[FR] Translation

Date: 2000/05/04 22:02:49
From: R. Gumpert <raggedis(a)together.net>

I have an occupational listing for g-g-g-g-g-etc. (1770) as "Schuster und Geschworener" which I believe is "cobbler and juryman (or juror)." Can anyone explain the occupation of juryman?
thanks
R. Gumpert
Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints
P. O. Box 541
Enosburg, VT  05450
802-933-6248
raggedis(a)together.net
We buy and sell anything made of paper or with an image: books, maps, prints, photos, letters, diaries, trade cards, postcards, even those old love letters of Grandma's.


[FR] WENNER

Date: 2000/05/04 22:07:15
From: Sarah Swisher <sarahswisher(a)webtv.net>

New to the list. Seeking information on Jacob, born 1732, or other
WENNER's. The family name was listed in Jochsberg, Ransbach areas in
1618-1748. Today WENNER's are found in the area of Mainz, Darmstadt,
etc.

Also where would archives for this area be located?

Thank you for any help.     Sarah







[FR] An alle meine Freunde im Frankenland!

Date: 2000/05/06 03:19:31
From: John Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net>

Ich habe mich eben auf dieser Liste angemeldet, da ich viel nach
Franken hineinschaue. Habe ich ja auch einen Unterfranken auf
meiner Hessenland Liste.

Wer mich noch nicht kennt, ich bin John Merz aus Kanada,
lebe in Hamilton am Ontario See, und mein Hobby sind die
Soldaten die von ihren Fuersten an den englischen Koenig verliehen
wurden, um in Amerika gegen die Rebellen zu kaempfen.
Darunter waren auch zwei Regimneter aus Ansbach und Bayreuth.

Ich werde oft gefragt ob ich weiss wo der und der Soldat herkam,
und zum Beispiel fand ich gerade heraus dass einer namens
RUEHRSCHNECK aus Watzendorf stammt. Ja der hat viele viele
Nachkommen in Virginia, die sich heute  RARESNAKE oder
RASNAKE nennen. Und so sind hier halt noch hunderte anderer.

Ja, ich denke mir schon dass es hier interessant wird. Uebrigens, ich
wohne schon 43 Jahre in Kanada, aber ich spreche und schreibe immer noch
am liebsten DEUTSCH.  Ich lasse mich aber auch in English
ansprechen.
Whoever wants to correspond with me in English, please feel free,
I don't mind at all.

Herzliche Gruesse,
and Cheers,
John Helmut Merz
http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian



[FR] K.R. Landwehr - Bezirks - Commando

Date: 2000/05/06 05:15:13
From: Warren and Vera Distler <warren(a)evansville.net>

In trying to establish a movement by one of my ancestors from the Franken
area to Heilsbronn, I ran across a stamp affixed to documents that would
allow my relative to take a leave of absense from the military to visit
relatives in America with the understanding that, if needed, he would return
to his unit. After arriving in the U.S. he never returned.  The seal "K.R.
Landwehr-Berzirks-Commando Nurnberg" is affixed to his documents. Was this a
regiment based out of Nurnberg or was this just a seal of some government
official.  Why would my relative have been in Heilsbronn if he were from
Franken?  The year was 1882.



Re: [FR] K.R. Landwehr - Bezirks - Commando

Date: 2000/05/08 12:51:39
From: Phyllis Jachowski <pejachowski(a)surf1.de>

The Landwehr is the equivalent of our reserves or National Guard.  Bezirks
Commando - Nurnberg means the regional command of Nurnberg.
Everyone at that time was required to be registered in the military and to
do some annual training.  The registration stamp verified that your
ancestors had complied with that regulation and was duly registered.
Tim J
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren and Vera Distler <warren(a)evansville.net>
To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Saturday, May 06, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: [FR] K.R. Landwehr - Bezirks - Commando


>In trying to establish a movement by one of my ancestors from the Franken
>area to Heilsbronn, I ran across a stamp affixed to documents that would
>allow my relative to take a leave of absense from the military to visit
>relatives in America with the understanding that, if needed, he would
return
>to his unit. After arriving in the U.S. he never returned.  The seal "K.R.
>Landwehr-Berzirks-Commando Nurnberg" is affixed to his documents. Was this
a
>regiment based out of Nurnberg or was this just a seal of some government
>official.  Why would my relative have been in Heilsbronn if he were from
>Franken?  The year was 1882.
>
>
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Re: [FR] K.R. Landwehr - Bezirks - Commando

Date: 2000/05/08 13:21:41
From: Monika Pertsch <pertsch(a)uni-bonn.de>

Heilsbronn is situated about 17 km east of Ansbach
in Franken (Mittelfranken). May be you mixed up
Heilsbronn (with s) and Heilbronn (without s).

Monika Pertsch
pertsch(a)uni-bonn.de

Warren and Vera Distler wrote:

> In trying to establish a movement by one of my ancestors from the Franken
> area to Heilsbronn, I ran across a stamp affixed to documents that would
> allow my relative to take a leave of absense from the military to visit
> relatives in America with the understanding that, if needed, he would return
> to his unit. After arriving in the U.S. he never returned.  The seal "K.R.
> Landwehr-Berzirks-Commando Nurnberg" is affixed to his documents. Was this a
> regiment based out of Nurnberg or was this just a seal of some government
> official.  Why would my relative have been in Heilsbronn if he were from
> Franken?  The year was 1882.
>
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[FR] Hammelburger Region!

Date: 2000/05/09 10:43:30
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo, kann mir jemand ein paar Fragen bzgl. der Hammelburger Region beantworten?
z.B.
Gibt es in der Naehe ein Neuhof? Neuwirtshaus? Geiersnest?
Wer kennt Thulba und kann mir dazu ein paar Fragen beantworten?
Merci
Bernd

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[FR] Sommerhausen - Dettelbach

Date: 2000/05/09 11:08:32
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Hallo,
ich habe dann noch ein paar Fragen bezueglich Sommerhausen - Dettelbach! Kennt sich dort einer aus?
Merci
Bernd
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[FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/09 20:47:09
From: Frank Dennerlein <frank.dennerlein(a)gmx.de>

Hallo!
Ich forsche seit einiger Zeit nach meinen Vorfahren (Archive, Kirchenbücher...) und habe mal eine Liste von Familiennamen zusammengestellt, die im Stammbaum hauptsächlich vertreten sind. Vielleicht ist jemand von Euch mit denselbigen Personen ebenfalls verwandt:
 - Dennerlein        (Region Bamberg /Oberfranken)
 - Engerer            (Region Feucht/Mittelfr.)
 - Lang                (Stadt Feucht/Mittelfr.) .. u.a. Johann Lang (Feucht) emigrierte ca. 1850 nach San Franzisco
 - Haslbäck
 - Bräutigam        (Neumarkt/Mittelfranken)
 - Fuchs              (Region Bamberg/Bayreuth)
Für evtl. Informationsaustausch stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung.
Viele Grüße
Frank Dennerlein
 

[FR] Waldershof - Summerer

Date: 2000/05/11 20:24:26
From: Mike Summerer <msummerer(a)loudoun.com>

     Ich versuche, die Geburt von Heinrich Summerer 1871/2 in oder um
Waldershof zu
bestätigen. Ich glaube, daß seine Muttersubstanzen Michael u. Theresia
Summerer waren.
Dose jemand schlagen eine Quelle für Sätze dieses Bereiches und
Zeitabschnitts vor.

                            Danke

 I am trying to confirm the birth of Heinrich Summerer in 1871/2 in or
around
Waldershof. I believe his parents were Michael & Theresia Summerer .
   Can someone suggest a source for records of this area and time
period.

Thank You

Michael Summerer



[FR] Neuhof bei Dettelbach ...???

Date: 2000/05/12 10:19:44
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Kennt sich dort einer aus?
Merci fuer Hilfe!
Bernd
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[FR] Suche nach Wuerzberger etc.

Date: 2000/05/12 14:12:15
From: Wuerzberger <Wuerzberger(a)t-online.de>

Hallo,

ich suche alle moeglichen Angaben fuer die Namen
Wuerzberger (Wuerzburger, Wuerzberg...)  (muessten aus dem Raum Franken stammen)
Gaebler
Gloeckner gnt. Schoenfeld
Kohlberg
Espenhain
Loehnicker
Braunschweiger
Naggies

Wer kann helfen ? Im voraus besten Dank !

Lutz




[FR] Re: Mueller in Oberfranken

Date: 2000/05/12 23:07:56
From: Trudy Lundy <tlundy(a)mstar2.net>

Axel,

Sorry, I didn't answer earlier.Here is what a researcher got for me in
1998 -- this is the info on the kids of Johann Adam MÜLLER (it is Johnann
Adam -- not Johann Georg -- his father is Georg MÜLLER with Sophia
Elisabetha SCHERTZER) and Anna WINNNERLING:

Johann George MÜLLER
born 23 April 1772  died 1811

Anna Margareta MÜLLER
born between 1 and 4 March 1776

Johann Andreas MÜLLER (my ancestor)
21 May 1778

Margaretha MÜLLER
born 6 March 1781  died 10 Nov 1857

Nicol MÜLLER
born 10 April 1784

Kunikunda MÜLLER
born 2 November 1786

Anna Katharina MÜLLER
born 28 May 1791    died 25 March 1860

You know that MÜLLER is the most popular (some say common but I don't like
that) name in Germany and it seems to me that everyone at that time was
named Johann.  But like you say it is the same area and if we find enough
similarities.

Thanks much for being persistent!

Regards,

Trudy Muller Lundy
tlundy(a)mstar2.net



[FR] GEGNER : Bavaria-Ostpreussen-USA

Date: 2000/05/14 13:15:47
From: Irmi Gegner-Suenkler <gegner-suenkler(a)gmx.de>

Hi Betty -

I hope you stiil here to read my mail :-)))

I found somesome living in the USA who has Gegner-descendants as well -
for
example HANS GEGNER *in Uehlfeld (Bavaria) married to BARBARA DANN. Son
of both
of them was JOHANNES GEGNER *3.11.1713 in Uehlfeld . Are those YOUR
ancestors as
well ?

I suddenly saw the names of my oldest ancestors from Ostpreussen -
MICHAEL
GEGNER married to MARIA DORSCH. Now I know there must be a connection :
Bavaria-Ostpreussen-USA. Unfortunately  I still don't know in which way
the
GEGNERs are connected. Do you ? Can you help me ?

Viele Gruesse - Irmi


[FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/14 14:03:32
From: Frank Dennerlein <frank.dennerlein(a)gmx.de>

Hallo!
Ich forsche seit einiger Zeit nach meinen Vorfahren (Archive,
Kirchenbücher...) und habe mal eine Liste von Familiennamen
zusammengestellt, die im Stammbaum hauptsächlich vertreten sind. Vielleicht
ist jemand von Euch mit denselbigen Personen ebenfalls verwandt:
 - Dennerlein        (Region Bamberg /Oberfranken)
 - Engerer            (Region Feucht/Mittelfr.)
 - Lang                (Stadt Feucht/Mittelfr.) .. u.a. Johann Lang (Feucht)
emigrierte ca. 1850 nach San Franzisco
 - Haslbäck
 - Bräutigam        (Neumarkt/Mittelfranken)
 - Fuchs              (Region Bamberg/Bayreuth)
Für evtl. Informationsaustausch stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung.
Viele Grüße
Frank Dennerlein



[FR] Unsubscribe

Date: 2000/05/14 14:38:39
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Re:Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/14 17:58:41
From: Ed Maul <ed_maul(a)prodigy.net>

Hello Frank,
I have no connection to any of your names but I just want to say
greetings from pleasantville, New York.
My Maul shown below was born in Erlangen.
Ed
ed_maul(a)prodigy.net
http//members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Maul.html
http://members.tripod.com/Silvie/Schilling.html

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From: "Frank Dennerlein" <frank.dennerlein(a)gmx.de>
To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:57 AM
Subject: [FR] einige Nachnamen...


Hallo!
Ich forsche seit einiger Zeit nach meinen Vorfahren (Archive,
Kirchenbücher...) und habe mal eine Liste von Familiennamen
zusammengestellt, die im Stammbaum hauptsächlich vertreten sind.
Vielleicht
ist jemand von Euch mit denselbigen Personen ebenfalls verwandt:
 - Dennerlein        (Region Bamberg /Oberfranken)
 - Engerer            (Region Feucht/Mittelfr.)
 - Lang                (Stadt Feucht/Mittelfr.) .. u.a. Johann Lang
(Feucht)
emigrierte ca. 1850 nach San Franzisco
 - Haslbäck
 - Bräutigam        (Neumarkt/Mittelfranken)
 - Fuchs              (Region Bamberg/Bayreuth)
Für evtl. Informationsaustausch stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung.
Viele Grüße
Frank Dennerlein


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Re: [FR] GEGNER : Bavaria-Ostpreussen-USA

Date: 2000/05/14 18:39:57
From: JBKITT <JBKITT(a)email.msn.com>

>for
>example HANS GEGNER *in Uehlfeld (Bavaria) married to BARBARA DANN. Son
>of both
>of them was JOHANNES GEGNER *3.11.1713 in Uehlfeld . Are those YOUR
>ancestors as
>well ?


Yeap, those are as far back as I have gotten.

>I suddenly saw the names of my oldest ancestors from Ostpreussen -
>MICHAEL
>GEGNER married to MARIA DORSCH.

Sitting in my lap right now is a copy of a census. It's only one page and
scanning down I see the names of Michael Gegner and Maria Dorsch. It has
more info but I DON"T KNOW HOW TO READ IT!! :-(((((((

I can tell you what it says and maybe you or someone can help you figure it
out.

It says:

Michael Gegner.................Maria Dorsch
then it has an M (I'm assuming marriage) then under *Event Date* it says 01
Nov 1742. Then it says *State, Co., Town, Par*. Under that it says Pr.
Ostpreussen, Worienen, Koenigsberg.

If I'm reading this correctly, it looks as if they had a daughter named
Maria Elisabeth Gegner born 15 Feb 1745 in Pr. Ostpreussen, Worienen,
Koenigsberg and it looks like Maria Elisabeth married a Michael Wilk or
Woelck on 15 Jan 1765 in Pr. Ostpreussen, Worienen, Koenigsberg.

I only have this one sheet which isn't the entire census (I'm assuming it's
a census), and that's all I see under Gegner/Dorsch. Does any of it sound
familiar?

Betty





Re: [FR] GEGNER : Bavaria-Ostpreussen-USA

Date: 2000/05/14 19:31:45
From: Irmi Gegner-Suenkler <gegner-suenkler(a)gmx.de>

Hi Betty -

JBKITT schrieb:

> Sitting in my lap right now is a copy of a census. It's only one page and
> scanning down I see the names of Michael Gegner and Maria Dorsch. It has
> more info but I DON"T KNOW HOW TO READ IT!! :-(((((((
>
> I can tell you what it says and maybe you or someone can help you figure it
> out.
>
> It says:
>
> Michael Gegner.................Maria Dorsch
> then it has an M (I'm assuming marriage) then under *Event Date* it says 01
> Nov 1742. Then it says *State, Co., Town, Par*. Under that it says Pr.
> Ostpreussen, Worienen, Koenigsberg.
>
> If I'm reading this correctly, it looks as if they had a daughter named
> Maria Elisabeth Gegner born 15 Feb 1745 in Pr. Ostpreussen, Worienen,
> Koenigsberg and it looks like Maria Elisabeth married a Michael Wilk or
> Woelck on 15 Jan 1765 in Pr. Ostpreussen, Worienen, Koenigsberg.

It's Wilk !:-)))

> I only have this one sheet which isn't the entire census (I'm assuming it's
> a census), and that's all I see under Gegner/Dorsch. Does any of it sound
> familiar?

YES - Michael and Maria married in Eichhorn and they had some more children .
All of them were born in Worienen.


Jacob Gegner (* 4.7.1743)
Maria Elisabeth Gegner (15.02.1745)
Anna Catharina Gegner (22.06.1747)
Johann Christian Gegner ( 25.03.1749)
Gottlieb Gegner (21.07.1751)
Wilhelm  Gegner (08.06.1754)
Gottfried Gegner (17.04.1758)
Susanna Dorothea Gegner (02.06.1762)

They were all born in Worienen.

The one who belongs to my ancestors is Wilhelm Gegner.
All my Gegners come from that area !!!
My grandfather was born near Koenigsberg, too.
But where ist the connection ???
Can you try to find it out ???
And what is a census ???

Irmi



Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/16 05:28:02
From: Elsa Kahler <ekahler(a)sympatico.ca>

Ed Maul wrote:

> Hello Frank,
> I have no connection to any of your names but I just want to say
> greetings from pleasantville, New York.
> My Maul shown below was born in Erlangen.
> Ed
> ed_maul(a)prodigy.net
> http//members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Maul.html
> http://members.tripod.com/Silvie/Schilling.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Dennerlein" <frank.dennerlein(a)gmx.de>
> To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:57 AM
> Subject: [FR] einige Nachnamen...
>
> Hallo!
> Ich forsche seit einiger Zeit nach meinen Vorfahren (Archive,
> Kirchenbücher...) und habe mal eine Liste von Familiennamen
> zusammengestellt, die im Stammbaum hauptsächlich vertreten sind.
> Vielleicht
> ist jemand von Euch mit denselbigen Personen ebenfalls verwandt:
>  - Dennerlein        (Region Bamberg /Oberfranken)
>  - Engerer            (Region Feucht/Mittelfr.)
>  - Lang                (Stadt Feucht/Mittelfr.) .. u.a. Johann Lang
> (Feucht)
> emigrierte ca. 1850 nach San Franzisco
>  - Haslbäck
>  - Bräutigam        (Neumarkt/Mittelfranken)
>  - Fuchs              (Region Bamberg/Bayreuth)
> Für evtl. Informationsaustausch stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung.
> Viele Grüße
> Frank Dennerlein
>
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Finally, another person who is researching in Erlangen.  I was born
there but left for Canada when I was 5.  I'm having a h--- of a time
getting information from the Standesamt there.  What experiences have
you had in finding out anything from Erlangen?
I have no Maul in my background but do have: Wolfel, Schott, Ertl,
Ruffner, Fehn from Erlangen.

Elsa Kahler,
Barrie, Ontario, Canada




Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/16 05:51:32
From: John Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net>

Hallo Elsa,
freut mich mal jemand von Barrie zu hoeren. Bin oft durchgefahren,
nicht oft rein. Ich wohne in Hamilton, ja, das unten am Ontariosee.
Nun die Sache mit Standesaemtern ist nicht so einfach in Deutschland.
Man muss denen erst mal nachweisen dass man ein direkter Nachkomme
ist, sonst geben die keine Information. Um welche Zeitspanne handelt es
sich denn? Vor oder nach 1875?
Vielleicht schauen Sie doch mal auf meiner 
GERMAN-CANADIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com Mail Liste rein, da kann
man auch Genealogie betreiben.
Gruesse,
John Helmut Merz
www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian


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From: Elsa Kahler <ekahler(a)sympatico.ca>
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...





[FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/16 05:52:46
From: Robert Loerzel <loerzel(a)mediaone.net>

I am flying to Europe on Saturday, May 20, and will be visiting Oberstreu
around June 1 and 2. I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to go
about researching family history while I am there. I have already written
letters to the church in Oberstreu, the burgermeister, the Diocese in
Würzburg, and a possible relative in the hope of finding some records of my
family, but I haven't received any reply.
What do you recommend I should do or where I should go when I visit
Unterfranken? Does anyone have advice on the best way for me to find birth,
marriage and death records from the 19th century and earlier?
Many thanks for your help.
****
Ich werde Samstag 20. Mai nach Europa fliegen, und ich werde um 1. und 2.
Juni Oberstreu besuchen. Mir wäre sehr geholfen, wenn jemand mir raten
würde, wie meinen Stammbaum da zu forschen. Ich habe schon Briefe der Kirche
in Oberstreu, dem Burgermeister, der Diözese in Würzburg, und einem
möglichen Verwandte geschrieben, in der Hoffnung, Dockument von meiner
Familie zu finden, aber ich habe kein Antwort bekommen.
Was empfehlt Ihr, daß ich tun soll, und wo ich gehen soll, wenn ich
Unterfranken besuche? Hat irgend jemand einen Rat, über welcher Weg am
besten für mich ist, Tauf-, Todes- und Trauungsbüchern von 19. Jahrhundert
und früher zu finden?
Herzlichen Dank für Eure Hilfe.
Robert Loerzel
Palatine, Illinois, USA



Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/16 11:50:16
From: Seim, Juergen <seimj(a)eu.deca.mil>

Hello John and Elsa 

Auch ich versuche einigen Nachnahme in der Erlanger Gegend nachzugehen.
Meine Mutter ist aus Schellenberg, nur ein paar Kilometer entfernt. Meine
Grosseltern sind beide tod und leider sind kaum bis gar keine Schriftstuecke
uebrig geblieben. Die Namen, denen ich nachgehe sind Nützel und Will. Mein
Grossvaters Vorname war Christoph (Nützel) und meine Grossmutter Kunigunde
(Will). Ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass jemand gerade auf diese Namen
gestossen ist, aber falls doch, bitte lasst es mich wissen. 

Juergen Seim
jseim(a)swin.de <mailto:jseim(a)swin.de> 
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pond/8851
<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pond/8851> 


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From: John Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net <mailto:hessian(a)cgocable.net> >
To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <mailto:Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
<Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <mailto:Franken-L(a)genealogy.net> >
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

>Hallo Elsa,
>freut mich mal jemand von Barrie zu hoeren. Bin oft durchgefahren,
>nicht oft rein. Ich wohne in Hamilton, ja, das unten am Ontariosee.
>Nun die Sache mit Standesaemtern ist nicht so einfach in Deutschland.
>Man muss denen erst mal nachweisen dass man ein direkter Nachkomme
>ist, sonst geben die keine Information. Um welche Zeitspanne handelt es
>sich denn? Vor oder nach 1875?
>Vielleicht schauen Sie doch mal auf meiner 
>GERMAN-CANADIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com <mailto:GERMAN-CANADIAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Mail Liste rein, da kann
>man auch Genealogie betreiben.
>Gruesse,
>John Helmut Merz
>www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian <http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian> 
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Elsa Kahler <ekahler(a)sympatico.ca <mailto:ekahler(a)sympatico.ca> >
>To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <mailto:Franken-L(a)genealogy.net> >
>Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...
>
>
>
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[FR] Höchstadt

Date: 2000/05/16 13:54:51
From: Talia + Axel Macht <talax(a)elogica.com.br>

Hallo,
kann mir bitte jemand folgende Informationen bzgl. Höchstadt/Mittelfranken
geben:

1) evangelische Kirchenbücher
Wo befinden die sich? In Höchstadt? Im ev. Kirchenbucharchiv in Regensburg?
Hat jemand Adressen, TelefonNr., Kontaktperson?

2) Personenstandsregister
Ist das im Standesamt in Höchstadt oder an anderer Stelle? Gibt es da eine
Kontaktperson, evtl. mit Adresse und Telef.Nr?

3) Gibt es irgendeinen Familienforscher für Höchstadt, mit dem ich in
Kontakt treten könnte? Ich wohne in Brasilien, bin aber im Juli/August im
Nürnberger Raum für mögliche Kontaktaufnahme.

Wäre dankbar für jeden Hinweis!

Viele Grüße

Axel Macht
talax(a)elogica.com.br




[FR] Freibott in Mainstockheim, interessante Info:

Date: 2000/05/16 14:06:36
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Freibott in Mainstockheim, interessante Info:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/freibott_in_mainstockheim.html

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Special researches:
Freibott Family
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/1.html
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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/4.html
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Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/16 15:15:40
From: DORISR <DORISR(a)aol.com>

I have found that it takes a long time for anyone to reply from Germany, some 
never do.
But I suggest to go to the "Standesamt" first.  Each reply I received came 
from there, they also can give you (or at least they did me) information on 
church records. In Europe a lot of the records are kept by the church.  
Do you know what religion they were?   Hope that helps
Doris


[FR] Fraenkische Landesherren:

Date: 2000/05/16 15:55:17
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/history/landesherren.html
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[FR] Suche nach Wuerzberger etc.

Date: 2000/05/16 18:50:01
From: Wuerzberger <Wuerzberger(a)t-online.de>

Hallo,

ich suche alle moeglichen Angaben fuer die Namen
Wuerzberger (Wuerzburger, Wuerzberg...)  (muessten aus dem Raum Franken stammen)
Gaebler
Gloeckner gnt. Schoenfeld
Kohlberg
Espenhain
Loehnicker
Braunschweiger
Naggies

Wer kann helfen ? Im voraus besten Dank !

Lutz




Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/16 18:50:41
From: ruffbj <ruffbj(a)juno.com>

Greetings Robert- After two visits and many letters myself, I suggest
(1)visit the appropriate local church, (2) the Standesamt, (3)ask around
for a local genealogist - they will know what works out well there, and
can help you later by correspondence.  I even went door-to-door looking
for "Schmitt" relatives, with no luck, but met many interseting, helpful
people.  Very enjoyable, even with my poor German skills.  The officials
may frustrate you but every now and then one comes through!  Viel Glück. 
Bill

On Mon, 15 May 2000 22:48:49 -0500 "Robert Loerzel"
<loerzel(a)mediaone.net> writes:
>I am flying to Europe on Saturday, May 20, and will be visiting 
>Oberstreu
>around June 1 and 2. I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to 
>go

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[FR] Suche nach Wuerzberger etc.

Date: 2000/05/16 20:36:04
From: Wuerzberger <Wuerzberger(a)t-online.de>

Hallo,

ich suche alle moeglichen Angaben fuer die Namen
Wuerzberger (Wuerzburger, Wuerzberg...)  (muessten aus dem Raum Franken stammen)
Gaebler
Gloeckner gnt. Schoenfeld, was koennte das genannt bedeuten ?
Kohlberg
Espenhain
Loehnicker
Braunschweiger
Naggies (wahrscheinlich aus Ostpreussen)

Wer kann helfen ? Im voraus besten Dank !

Lutz



Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/16 23:37:15
From: Phyllis Jachowski <pejachowski(a)surf1.de>

Hi;
You might try the diocese at Würzburg first if your ancestor is Catholic.
The reason I say that is two weeks ago I went to Bamberg which is the
adjoining diocese and they had all the old parish records at the diocese
archives on microfische and they were all indexed.  I was able to find my
entire group in just an hour.  I dont know though if Wurzburg is organized
the same way, but if they are it would save a lot of time.
Good luck,
Tim Jachowski


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Loerzel <loerzel(a)mediaone.net>
To: Franken <franken-l(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:19 AM
Subject: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu


>I am flying to Europe on Saturday, May 20, and will be visiting Oberstreu
>around June 1 and 2. I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to go
>about researching family history while I am there. I have already written
>letters to the church in Oberstreu, the burgermeister, the Diocese in
>Würzburg, and a possible relative in the hope of finding some records of my
>family, but I haven't received any reply.
>What do you recommend I should do or where I should go when I visit
>Unterfranken? Does anyone have advice on the best way for me to find birth,
>marriage and death records from the 19th century and earlier?
>Many thanks for your help.
>****
>Ich werde Samstag 20. Mai nach Europa fliegen, und ich werde um 1. und 2.
>Juni Oberstreu besuchen. Mir wäre sehr geholfen, wenn jemand mir raten
>würde, wie meinen Stammbaum da zu forschen. Ich habe schon Briefe der
Kirche
>in Oberstreu, dem Burgermeister, der Diözese in Würzburg, und einem
>möglichen Verwandte geschrieben, in der Hoffnung, Dockument von meiner
>Familie zu finden, aber ich habe kein Antwort bekommen.
>Was empfehlt Ihr, daß ich tun soll, und wo ich gehen soll, wenn ich
>Unterfranken besuche? Hat irgend jemand einen Rat, über welcher Weg am
>besten für mich ist, Tauf-, Todes- und Trauungsbüchern von 19. Jahrhundert
>und früher zu finden?
>Herzlichen Dank für Eure Hilfe.
>Robert Loerzel
>Palatine, Illinois, USA
>
>
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[FR] Nachfahrenuebersichten (2 Verschiedene)

Date: 2000/05/17 09:44:19
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/family/11.html
http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/family/12.html

Beide Familien stammen aus dem Raum Salz-Loehrieth-BadKoenigshofen. Vielleicht ist was fuer Euch dabei!
Ciao
Bernd
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Re:Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...

Date: 2000/05/17 17:21:59
From: Ed Maul <ed_maul(a)prodigy.net>

Hi Elsa,
I have not researched in Erlangen except
to find out if there is any kind of monument
that would have my Cousin Willi Maul's name on it.
Also was searching if there may be a grave without
a body but a gravestone.
I will see if I can help you with your Erlangen by contacting some
friends in Germany.
A native American that loves the country of his ancestors.
Cheers,
Ed
Family Names in the Oberpfalz: Stauber, Wittmann, Gradl,
Rittel, Friedl, Thaler, Mederer, Paulus, Lutz, etc.
I have more names on the Rootsurname List.

ed_maul(a)prodigy.net
http//members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Maul.html
http://members.tripod.com/Silvie/Schilling.html

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From: "Elsa Kahler" <ekahler(a)sympatico.ca>
To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FR] einige Nachnamen...




Ed Maul wrote:

> Hello Frank,
> I have no connection to any of your names but I just want to say
> greetings from pleasantville, New York.
> My Maul shown below was born in Erlangen.
> Ed
> ed_maul(a)prodigy.net
> http//members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Maul.html
> http://members.tripod.com/Silvie/Schilling.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Dennerlein" <frank.dennerlein(a)gmx.de>
> To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:57 AM
> Subject: [FR] einige Nachnamen...
>
> Hallo!
> Ich forsche seit einiger Zeit nach meinen Vorfahren (Archive,
> Kirchenbücher...) und habe mal eine Liste von Familiennamen
> zusammengestellt, die im Stammbaum hauptsächlich vertreten sind.
> Vielleicht
> ist jemand von Euch mit denselbigen Personen ebenfalls verwandt:
>  - Dennerlein        (Region Bamberg /Oberfranken)
>  - Engerer            (Region Feucht/Mittelfr.)
>  - Lang                (Stadt Feucht/Mittelfr.) .. u.a. Johann Lang
> (Feucht)
> emigrierte ca. 1850 nach San Franzisco
>  - Haslbäck
>  - Bräutigam        (Neumarkt/Mittelfranken)
>  - Fuchs              (Region Bamberg/Bayreuth)
> Für evtl. Informationsaustausch stehe ich gerne zur Verfügung.
> Viele Grüße
> Frank Dennerlein
>
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Finally, another person who is researching in Erlangen.  I was born
there but left for Canada when I was 5.  I'm having a h--- of a time
getting information from the Standesamt there.  What experiences have
you had in finding out anything from Erlangen?
I have no Maul in my background but do have: Wolfel, Schott, Ertl,
Ruffner, Fehn from Erlangen.

Elsa Kahler,
Barrie, Ontario, Canada



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Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/18 03:26:08
From: E. J. HERTERICK <EJSMAPS(a)worldnet.att.net>

Phyllis Jachowski wrote:
> 
> Hi;
> You might try the diocese at Würzburg first if your ancestor is Catholic.
> The reason I say that is two weeks ago I went to Bamberg which is the
> adjoining diocese and they had all the old parish records at the diocese
> archives on microfische and they were all indexed.  I was able to find my
> entire group in just an hour.  I dont know though if Wurzburg is organized
> the same way, but if they are it would save a lot of time.
> Good luck,
> Tim Jachowski
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Loerzel <loerzel(a)mediaone.net>
> To: Franken <franken-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:19 AM
> Subject: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu
> 
> >I am flying to Europe on Saturday, May 20, and will be visiting Oberstreu
> >around June 1 and 2. I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to go
> >about researching family history while I am there. I have already written
> >letters to the church in Oberstreu, the burgermeister, the Diocese in
> >Würzburg, and a possible relative in the hope of finding some records of my
> >family, but I haven't received any reply.
> >What do you recommend I should do or where I should go when I visit
> >Unterfranken? Does anyone have advice on the best way for me to find birth,
> >marriage and death records from the 19th century and earlier?
> >Many thanks for your help.
> >****
> >Ich werde Samstag 20. Mai nach Europa fliegen, und ich werde um 1. und 2.
> >Juni Oberstreu besuchen. Mir wäre sehr geholfen, wenn jemand mir raten
> >würde, wie meinen Stammbaum da zu forschen. Ich habe schon Briefe der
> Kirche
> >in Oberstreu, dem Burgermeister, der Diözese in Würzburg, und einem
> >möglichen Verwandte geschrieben, in der Hoffnung, Dockument von meiner
> >Familie zu finden, aber ich habe kein Antwort bekommen.
> >Was empfehlt Ihr, daß ich tun soll, und wo ich gehen soll, wenn ich
> >Unterfranken besuche? Hat irgend jemand einen Rat, über welcher Weg am
> >besten für mich ist, Tauf-, Todes- und Trauungsbüchern von 19. Jahrhundert
> >und früher zu finden?
> >Herzlichen Dank für Eure Hilfe.
> >Robert Loerzel
> >Palatine, Illinois, USA
> >
> >
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Phyllis: Thanks for your insight on visiting Germany. Do you speak
German? I would like to go to Bamberg since most of the Herterich"s in
Bavaria live in that area. ej



[FR] Wir sind keine Bayern!

Date: 2000/05/18 10:22:20
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Ein interessanter Artikel fuer Franken ...vielleicht auch fuer Bayern!? ;)
http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/history/dehler.html


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Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/18 19:23:43
From: Phyllis Jachowski <pejachowski(a)surf1.de>

Hi;
I speak passable German, at least enough to get me out of trouble.  If you
havent been there before, Bamberg is definitely worth a visit, although
Würzburg isnt bad either.  The Bamberg diocese archive is located across the
street, in front of the cathedral and the people there are very helpful.

Tim Jachowski

-----Original Message-----
From: E. J. HERTERICK <EJSMAPS(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2000 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu


>Phyllis Jachowski wrote:
>>
>> Hi;
>> You might try the diocese at Würzburg first if your ancestor is Catholic.
>> The reason I say that is two weeks ago I went to Bamberg which is the
>> adjoining diocese and they had all the old parish records at the diocese
>> archives on microfische and they were all indexed.  I was able to find my
>> entire group in just an hour.  I dont know though if Wurzburg is
organized
>> the same way, but if they are it would save a lot of time.
>> Good luck,
>> Tim Jachowski
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Loerzel <loerzel(a)mediaone.net>
>> To: Franken <franken-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 8:19 AM
>> Subject: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu
>>
>> >I am flying to Europe on Saturday, May 20, and will be visiting
Oberstreu
>> >around June 1 and 2. I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to go
>> >about researching family history while I am there. I have already
written
>> >letters to the church in Oberstreu, the burgermeister, the Diocese in
>> >Würzburg, and a possible relative in the hope of finding some records of
my
>> >family, but I haven't received any reply.
>> >What do you recommend I should do or where I should go when I visit
>> >Unterfranken? Does anyone have advice on the best way for me to find
birth,
>> >marriage and death records from the 19th century and earlier?
>> >Many thanks for your help.
>> >****
>> >Ich werde Samstag 20. Mai nach Europa fliegen, und ich werde um 1. und
2.
>> >Juni Oberstreu besuchen. Mir wäre sehr geholfen, wenn jemand mir raten
>> >würde, wie meinen Stammbaum da zu forschen. Ich habe schon Briefe der
>> Kirche
>> >in Oberstreu, dem Burgermeister, der Diözese in Würzburg, und einem
>> >möglichen Verwandte geschrieben, in der Hoffnung, Dockument von meiner
>> >Familie zu finden, aber ich habe kein Antwort bekommen.
>> >Was empfehlt Ihr, daß ich tun soll, und wo ich gehen soll, wenn ich
>> >Unterfranken besuche? Hat irgend jemand einen Rat, über welcher Weg am
>> >besten für mich ist, Tauf-, Todes- und Trauungsbüchern von 19.
Jahrhundert
>> >und früher zu finden?
>> >Herzlichen Dank für Eure Hilfe.
>> >Robert Loerzel
>> >Palatine, Illinois, USA
>> >
>> >
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>Phyllis: Thanks for your insight on visiting Germany. Do you speak
>German? I would like to go to Bamberg since most of the Herterich"s in
>Bavaria live in that area. ej
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[FR] unsubscribe Dirk Unterbrink

Date: 2000/05/19 08:20:02
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Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/19 23:18:20
From: FOX105 <FOX105(a)aol.com>

Do you know where the Catholic records for Bruckenau would be? Would they be 
in Bamberg?
Thanks
Gerry


Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/20 00:40:40
From: Jim Amaral <jamaral(a)columbus.rr.com>

Bad Brukenau should be in Wurzburg, but they aren't. Last I checked Herr
Leonhard Rugle had them at his house. He is the historian for the region, and a
genealogist for hire. He doesn't speak much English, but his wife's OK at it.
What village are you really looking for? Shondra, Oberleichtersback, Modlas,
and a couple others all share one priest; he rotates thru the churches. Motten
has their own priest.

The address for Mr. Rugel is:

Leonhard Rugel
Hochwaldstra§e 9
97769 Bad Brückenau
B.R.D.
Tel. 09741/2375

JimA
Columbus, OH

FOX105(a)aol.com wrote:

> Do you know where the Catholic records for Bruckenau would be? Would they be
> in Bamberg?
> Thanks
> Gerry
>
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Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/20 02:34:59
From: Larry Flinner, Jr. <llflinner(a)webtv.net>

Do you know if Herr Rugel possesses or researches the records for the
Evangelische Pfarramt at Geroda?  My ancestors lived in Platz
(pre--1770's)  which is served by Geroda.  I've been trying to figure
out how to access the records there.

Larry Flinner
Walnut Creek, Ohio

jamaral(a)columbus.rr.com wrote:

Bad Brukenau should be in Wurzburg, but they aren't. Last I checked Herr
Leonhard Rugle had them at his house. He is the historian for the
region, and a genealogist for hire. He doesn't speak much English, but
his wife's OK at it. What village are you really looking for? Shondra,
Oberleichtersback, Modlas, and a couple others all share one priest; he
rotates thru the churches. Motten has their own priest. 
The address for Mr. Rugel is: 
Leonhard Rugel
Hochwaldstra§e 9
97769 Bad Brückenau
B.R.D.
Tel. 09741/2375 

JimA
Columbus, OH 



Re: [FR] Visit to Oberstreu

Date: 2000/05/20 03:12:10
From: Jim Amaral <jamaral(a)columbus.rr.com>

I'm pretty sure that was one of the 5. I'll have to dig in the stuff
upstairs. Ironically, the letter I accessed to get his address was from
Walnut Creek. But in CA!
I'll check and repost.
JimA

"Larry Flinner, Jr." wrote:

> Do you know if Herr Rugel possesses or researches the records for the
> Evangelische Pfarramt at Geroda?  My ancestors lived in Platz
> (pre--1770's)  which is served by Geroda.  I've been trying to figure
> out how to access the records there.
>
> Larry Flinner
> Walnut Creek, Ohio
>
> jamaral(a)columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Bad Brukenau should be in Wurzburg, but they aren't. Last I checked Herr
> Leonhard Rugle had them at his house. He is the historian for the
> region, and a genealogist for hire. He doesn't speak much English, but
> his wife's OK at it. What village are you really looking for? Shondra,
> Oberleichtersback, Modlas, and a couple others all share one priest; he
> rotates thru the churches. Motten has their own priest.
> The address for Mr. Rugel is:
> Leonhard Rugel
> Hochwaldstra§e 9
> 97769 Bad Brückenau
> B.R.D.
> Tel. 09741/2375
>
> JimA
> Columbus, OH
>
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[FR] Hammelburg ... answers...

Date: 2000/05/22 11:52:50
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Do you know where the Catholic records for Bruckenau would be? Would they be
in Bamberg?
Thanks
Gerry

Well, until Bishop Julius Echter from Wuerzburg, we can say that Hammelburg belonged to Fulda. After then it belonged to Wuerzburg. You have to ask either in Wuerzburg or in Fulda, depending on the time you are researching in. For the time of Echter see:
http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/history/landesherren.html
For names in the Hammelburg region:
http://www.geocities.com/freibott_b/family/surnames.htm
ciao
Bernd

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Re: [FR] Hammelburg ... answers...

Date: 2000/05/23 00:54:18
From: FOX105 <FOX105(a)aol.com>

Bernd.
Thank you for your reply.
Gerry in Ma


[FR] Old book

Date: 2000/05/25 22:42:10
From: gerald KISABETH <geraldkisabeth(a)hotmail.com>

Hello all subscribers. I am looking for someone who may have access to a copy of an old book. Perhaps someone may have an address as to where I could write to have someone do a quick lookup on my old medieval surname of Kueschwert. Here is the title:

"Landbuch der Sechsamter von 1499"
This is the area located in the Fichtelgebirge in Oberfranken in NE Bavaria.

Perhaps someone that's a subscriber to FRANKEN-L may have have some contacts to someone from this area.
Thank you for your time.
Gerald Kisabeth
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Re: [FR] Old book

Date: 2000/05/26 09:14:54
From: Ralph Habersack <R-Hab(a)t-online.de>

Gerald:

My library owns the book. I will look up the name Kueschwert for you, however, 
only if this book has a name index. It has 454 pages!
Send details!

Ralph

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Re: [FR] Old book

Date: 2000/05/26 16:15:28
From: gerald KISABETH <geraldkisabeth(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Ralph, Thanks so much. I am researching my old medeival name of Kueschwert in the Fichtelgebirge. This name was gradually changed to Küspert-Kispert & Kisseberth starting in the 16th century. I am trying to gather as many early (15th-16th century) Küschwer(d)t names as possible. I know that on page 167 in the village of Reichenbach there lists an Albrecht & Hans Kueschwert as farmers although I cannot translate the old German writing. The Kueschwerts were mainly in the villages surrounding Wunsiedel, Marktredwitz and Weißenstadt. I really appreciate your efforts. If there is no surname index, could you please perhaps ask someone if they would check for Kueschwerts in the book. I would gladly handle all costs for time spent looking through the book.
Again, many thanks.
Where do you live in franken?
Gerald Kisabeth
41599 Haggerty Woods Ct.
Canton, Michigan  48187  USA

From: R-Hab(a)t-online.de (Ralph Habersack)
Reply-To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net
To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net
Subject: Re: [FR] Old book
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:10:06 +0200

Gerald:

My library owns the book. I will look up the name Kueschwert for you, however,
only if this book has a name index. It has 454 pages!
Send details!

Ralph

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[FR] Franken

Date: 2000/05/26 17:38:53
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

History in Franken:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/history/frankenhome.html
Genealogy in Franken:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm
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[FR] Wahler

Date: 2000/05/26 18:30:40
From: Christoph Wahler <cwahler(a)addcom.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer,

ich suche nach allen informationen über die Familie Wahler. Da Unterfranken
und auch Mittelfranken eine Hochburg der Familie Wahler ist, wende ich mich
an diese Liste. Wäre über jegliche Information glücklich.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Christoph Wahler



[FR] Scheinfeld

Date: 2000/05/26 18:57:26
From: Ingolf Vogel <vogeling(a)planet-interkom.de>

Deutsch :
Hallo,
Ich suche in Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpsersdorf &
Oberscheinfeld nach den folgenden Namen :

Albert, Grün, Ruhl, Müller, Wirsching, Dornberger, Schwarz, Storch, Weckert,
Schneider, Wegelein, Rückel, Rodamer, Hofmann, Vogel, Heinlein & Bauer

Wer weiß etwas über fränkische Orte in denen der Name Wirsching vorkommt ?

English:
Hello,
In the towns of Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpersdorf &
Oberscheinfeld, I'm looking for the obove names.

Does anyone know of a town in Franken where the Family Wirsching lives/lived
?

Dank im voraus,
Thanks,



[FR] archives or another lesson

Date: 2000/05/27 23:53:35
From: Wolfgang Fred Rump <fredrump(a)home.com>

Buffys97 asks in mail to me how she can research the archives. I 
gave a few URLs the other day as to how to get to your password, 
profile and make changes to same. 

The archives are open to the general public. You therefore do not require a 
password to use them. Simply go to:
http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo-e/Oldenburg-L
chose the appropriate language and click on the blue field at the end of this 
sentence:
To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the {HYPERLINK "/archiv/oldenburg-l/"}Oldenburg-L 
Archives. 

Regradless of language you're no confroted with German. All you need 
to know is two things though: Nach Datum and Nach Thema. That is do 
you wish to see the archives based upon date or theme? Pressing on or 
the other in the month of your choice will get you into the messages and 
the rest should be pretty much self-explanitory.

There is no search mechanism yet which would permit searching the 
entire file for some specific word(s). That will come as soon as we get 
more hardware power at the back end. 

Hope this helps

Fred
 

fred(a)compu.com


Re: [FR] Scheinfeld

Date: 2000/05/28 18:02:49
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Hi,
as far as I know there are Wirsing in Ebern in Unterfranken!
ciao
Bernd

------------------------------------------------------------
Don't forget to check sometimes the Genealogy pages:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/0.html
Special researches:
Freibott Family
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/1.html
Limpert Family
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/4.html
Index of family names:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm
------------------------------------------------------------





From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling(a)planet-interkom.de>
Reply-To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net
To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: [FR] Scheinfeld
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:36:23 +0200

Deutsch :
Hallo,
Ich suche in Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpsersdorf &
Oberscheinfeld nach den folgenden Namen :

Albert, Grün, Ruhl, Müller, Wirsching, Dornberger, Schwarz, Storch, Weckert,
Schneider, Wegelein, Rückel, Rodamer, Hofmann, Vogel, Heinlein & Bauer

Wer weiß etwas über fränkische Orte in denen der Name Wirsching vorkommt ?

English:
Hello,
In the towns of Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpersdorf &
Oberscheinfeld, I'm looking for the obove names.

Does anyone know of a town in Franken where the Family Wirsching lives/lived
?

Dank im voraus,
Thanks,


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[FR] Mittelfranken Surnames

Date: 2000/05/29 04:16:05
From: REBARTH <REBARTH(a)aol.com>

Hi,
I'm new on this list. By way of introduction please check the list of my main 
Mittelfranken Surnames below. I'd be glad to exchange information on these 
with anyone.
I am a member of the "Gesellschaft für Familienforschung in Franken". Spreche 
auch Deutsch.
Roland Barth


BARTH           (-1600) Lauf
RÖMISCH     (1836-1774) Pensendorf/Ullersricht/Sperlhammer (Oberpfalz)
DORNAUER    (1797-1740) Brand-Eschenbach
RAAB            (1673-1563) Lauf
REHM            (1782-1675) Grosshaslach
BRUNSTEIN   (1702-1650) Engelthal

PFAU            (-1675) Fürth/Halle a.d.Saale
REUTER      ( 1750-1720)Fürth
WEGHORN     (1802-1590) Gonnersdorf/Exulant
LEYKAUF     (1776-1670) Hagenbüchach/Lieritzhofen
KEPPNER     (1745-1600) Unterschlauersbach/Buttendorf
FARNBACHER  (1692-1635) Hagenbüchach
WEISS           (1730-1616) Tuchenbach/Puschendorf

KÖRBER      (-1540) Stettberg/Schwand/Brunst/Gastenfelden
ZANZINGER   (1688-1600) Brunst/Röttenbach/Exulant
PFEFFER     (1690-1615) Schwand
RATHSAM     (1645-1530) Brunst
FEUERLEIN   (1600-1550) Gutenhard/Geslau
SCHEYENSTUHL(1600-1585)Rosenbach/Exulant
LEITENBERGER(1711-1570)Häslabronn/Geslau/Dornhausen
GUNDERMANN  (1589-1540) Geslau
KAHR            (1734-1606) Rosenbach/Flachslanden/Exulant
BINDER      (1620-1589) Gutenhard/Exulant
EDER            (1815-1600) Spielberg/Exulant
DOPPELHAMMER(1777-1632)Berndorf/Exulant
HENNINGER   (1814-1650) Oberdachstetten/Jochsberg
RATTELMÜLLER(1773-1601)Neureuth/Lenzersdorf/Erlach/Exulant
SCHOLL      (1658-1618) Lenzersdorf
CASTNER     (1630-1600) Jochsberg/Exulant
HAUF            (1764-1560) Bieg/Hürbel
WIESINGER   (1734-1620) Bieg/Gräfenbuch/Exulant
KERN            (1702-1642) Höchstetten/Zweiflingen
GACKSTÄTTER(1679-1650)  Auerbach
DÄNZER      (1800-1587) Altengreuth/Baimhofen/Vehlberg/Exulant
LILLI           (1701-1676) Schönbronn

GABSTEIGER/GASTSTEIGER (-1582)Cadolzburg/Ottensoos
STANG           (1807-1640) Seubersdorf/Unterreichenbach/Ober-Schlehenmühle
CHRISTGAU   (1770-1740) Neidhardswinden
SIEGLING        (1850-1765) Cadolzburg/Mkt. Erlbach
BÖSENDÖRFER(1823-1775)Cadolzburg/Deberndorf/Hornsegen


Re: [FR] Scheinfeld

Date: 2000/05/29 22:09:12
From: Ingolf Vogel <vogeling(a)planet-interkom.de>

Thanks a lot/Herzlichen Dank

Ingolf


----- Original Message -----
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>
To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FR] Scheinfeld


> Hi,
> as far as I know there are Wirsing in Ebern in Unterfranken!
> ciao
> Bernd
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Don't forget to check sometimes the Genealogy pages:
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/0.html
> Special researches:
> Freibott Family
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/1.html
> Limpert Family
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/4.html
> Index of family names:
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling(a)planet-interkom.de>
> >Reply-To: Franken-L(a)genealogy.net
> >To: <Franken-L(a)genealogy.net>
> >Subject: [FR] Scheinfeld
> >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:36:23 +0200
> >
> >Deutsch :
> >Hallo,
> >Ich suche in Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpsersdorf &
> >Oberscheinfeld nach den folgenden Namen :
> >
> >Albert, Grün, Ruhl, Müller, Wirsching, Dornberger, Schwarz, Storch,
> >Weckert,
> >Schneider, Wegelein, Rückel, Rodamer, Hofmann, Vogel, Heinlein & Bauer
> >
> >Wer weiß etwas über fränkische Orte in denen der Name Wirsching vorkommt
?
> >
> >English:
> >Hello,
> >In the towns of Scheinfeld, Altmannshausen, Markt Bibart, Herpersdorf &
> >Oberscheinfeld, I'm looking for the obove names.
> >
> >Does anyone know of a town in Franken where the Family Wirsching
> >lives/lived
> >?
> >
> >Dank im voraus,
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
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[FR] Oberfranken

Date: 2000/05/31 04:28:02
From: Dwolff3 <Dwolff3(a)aol.com>

My mothers family came to America from the Oberfranken area of Bavaria about 
1840-1850. They were Lutheran.  Surnames: Neicum, Kieffner, Krodel, Arneth, 
Hacker, Beck, Eisenhuth.  Is anyone familiar with these names?
Jo Ann



[FR] Article about 'mediatized'!

Date: 2000/05/31 10:32:27
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

See here:
Hier eine Erklaerung:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/history/mediatisierunge.html
Hier eine GenDatenbank:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm

------------------------------------------------------------
Don't forget to check sometimes the Genealogy pages:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/0.html
Special researches:
Freibott Family
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/1.html
Limpert Family
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/4.html
Index of family names:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm
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[FR] Fuerst Wrede

Date: 2000/05/31 11:17:11
From: Bernd Freibott <freibott(a)hotmail.com>

Fuerst Wrede
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/history/wrede.html

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[FR] Bach Familie Gunzenhausen

Date: 2000/05/31 12:18:31
From: Gisela Bach <ghbach(a)home.com>

An alle Listen Teilnehmer,  suche noch mehr Information ueber die Bach's....
Auszug der Stammtafel Bach:
Hans Bach geb. 1603 in Burck am Hesselberg starb 1673 in Sausenhofen
Er kam 1627 als Buerger und Uebereiter (?) nach Gunzenhausen, wo er
saemtliche Leiden und Drangsale des 30jaehrigen Krieges mitmachte. Er
heiratete 1635 Veronika Funk von Frickenfelden. 1638 wurde er Buerger in
Gunzenhausen. Er zog 1650 mit seiner Ehefrau nach Sausenhofen, wo die Bach
Muehlbesitzer waren, sie waren Freibauern.
Daniel Bach geb. 20.8.1639 zu Gunzenhausen. Er war dann Freibauer in in
Sausenhofen und 1673 verheiratete sich mit der Tochter Agathe, des Bauern
und Steiners Federschmidt . Im Jahre 1695 kaufteer zu seinem Freibauernhof
noch
den 120 Tagwerk grossen Hanselbauernhof.

Johannes Bach geb. 31.3.1674 zu Sausenhofen, Freibauer und Muehlbesitzer
heiratete
1697 Maragrethe Kleemann aus Dittenheim. Danach liegt keine Information vor
bis ins
19. Jahrhundert.
Vielen Gruesse,
Gisela H. Bach, Toronto Canada



Re: [FR] Article about 'mediatized'!

Date: 2000/05/31 21:25:15
From: LTBoehmke <LTBoehmke(a)aol.com>

Hello, I just tried your address for Mediatized and was told that address was 
not on geocities. Any ideas?

LaVerne
ltboehmke(a)aol.com


[FR] Roll Call

Date: 2000/05/31 22:19:13
From: Bob Hegerich <hegerich(a)starpower.net>

Hi:

Since I haven't done so in a long time,  thought I would post my
Unterfranken research interest which is the HÄGERICH family that lived in
Geroda and Platz (and later Detter) Bavaria from before 1603 to the present.

-----Bob Hegerich-----
----Annandale, VA----


[no subject]

Date: 2009/07/05 22:30:53
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