Date: 1998/12/02 02:36:01
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
On 29 Nov 98, at 20:09, Bruno Bauernschmidt wrote about Genealogical archive in Nuernberg: > Please be a > little bit patient, my answer can take two or three weeks. At the end a > general question to all members: Should the answer to a question, which > was send to the list, also send to the list, means readable for all, or > should the answer send to the private adress? >From experience with many genealogical discussion lists over the years I know that many if not all readers enjoy reading knowledgeable responses to the questions others ask. It is a way of learning new things that are otherwise very difficult to obtain. We even learn from the questions as others ask things we haven't even thought of. Obviously there are situations where private answers are in order but generally speaking everyone hopes to learn from everyone else and public discussions are in order - everything about genealogy and especially from Northern Bavaria, ie Franken. Fred The Rumps at Pelican Lake Motorcoach Resort 4788 Corian Court Naples, FL 34114-9418 941-775-7838 PS Genealogists live in the past lane
Date: 1998/12/02 17:25:37
From: Bill Ruff <ruffbj(a)juno.com>
Hello to Bruno Bauernschmidt: I would like to take advantage of your very kind offer about the Archives. My ancestors came to the US in 1852 from Eichenb"uhl, near Miltenberg, Lower Franconia. I would like to learn of any earlier family details that the Archives might hold. RUFF(Anselm; father Franz Philip); SCHMITT(Christine) - Eichenb"uhl, near Miltenberg, Unterfranken, Bayern RUFF - Riedern, near Eichenb"uhl NEUBERGER(Anna Maria; father Anton) - Reinhardsachsen, near Eichenb"uhl KIRCHGASSNER - Kaltenbrunn, near Eichenb"uhl TAUBERSCHMITT - possible Kaltenbrunn MUSSIG(Franziska) - Reinhardsachsen Many thanks for any help you can give. Bill Ruff ruffbj(a)juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Date: 1998/12/02 22:17:08
From: Peter Probst <peteprobst(a)rmplc.co.uk>
Dear Bruno Thank you for your offer of help, which is very generous. you certainly know how to warm up the list!! My name is Peter Probst. I am researching the PROBST family name,also ROSLAR, ENDLEIN, SALZNER, from the area of Schillingsfurst, Feuchtwangen and possibly the Ansbach-Rothenburg-Wurzburg areas. The details I have so far gained relate to my Grandfather and GreatGrandfather. My Grandfather was Johannes Jacob Probst, born 06-08-1871 in Schillingsfürst, Mittlefranken, Bayern, Germany. He was the child of Johann Martin Probst and Margaretha Rößlar (his 1st wife). He lived at 60 Schillingsfürst. His birth is documented in the Church records. He came to England circa 1891. I have details of my Great Grandfather, Johann Martin Probst, he was born in 12. April 1827, in Heilbronn near Feuchtwangen? (Heilsbronn near Ansbach). His first marriage was with Eva Margaretha Rößler, born 31 March 1842, They married 13 February 1870. Their first child was Johannes Jacob Probst, my grandfather. Margaretha Rößler and child died during the next birth on 6 December 1873. Johann Martin Probst, second marriage was on the 5 July 1874 with Anna Rosina Endlein, born on 13 March 1838 in Haundorf, she died on the 20 March 1886. Johann Martin Probst married his third wife on the 1 May 1887, named Sybilla Elisabetha Salzner, born 12 April 1836 in Würzburg, she died 22 January 1911. Johann Martin Probst died 23 March 1907 in Schillingsfürst. I am interested in connections with other relatives. This is all the information I have concerning my Bavarian ancestors, I would be grateful for your help and if I can help you in any way, please contact me. Regards to you and all franken-l subscribers. Pete Probst peteprobst(a)rmplc.co.uk
Date: 1998/12/03 01:11:55
From: Karl Federschmidt <karl(a)feder.wupper.de>
Hi Bruno Bauernschmidt, compared with most of the franken-list subscribers I live just round your corner (at Wuppertal, Germany). But from a German perspective, Nuernberg ist far enough away, and I never heard about the archive of the "Gesellschaft fuer Familienforschung" there. So you might allow me to take up your geneous offer, too: I am searching my familiy name "Federschmidt" or "Federschmid", which is not totally uncommon in Germany. According to my findings, the forefathers of all (!!) bearers of this name come from an area around Gunzenhausen. I can follow my own family tree back to the 17th century, but there are some more branches about which I know very little or nothing. Does the genealogical archive contain any hint about this name? By the way: If the archive is interested in the genealogical tree of my family, I could provide it to the archive. All the best to you, and greetings to the whole list! karl(a)feder.wupper.de Karl Federschmidt Duisbergstr. 25 42327 Wuppertal
Date: 1998/12/03 22:24:39
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
Hi, I'm sorry to have to announce that Brigitte and Fred Lloyd yesterday sold the site name genealogy.com to Broderbund. They made this decision without consulting with anybody on the German genealogy team and cut off access to the system to all page maintainers even before they announced the transaction. Personally I feel betrayed that not I, not anybody, could be trusted with this news, so that an orderly transfer could have taken place, before the actyal access was cut off. The physical name title transfer will not happen until later this month so that there would have been plenty of time. The members of the 'team' have worked for many years to make genealogy.com into an address most genealogists have in their bookmark files for easy and quick access. It will provide Broderbund with easy and cheap access to what will now become their site. The data is of course not part of the deal and we have quickly made www.genealogy.net and www2.genealogy.net into alternative access sites. As one of your list managers and one of the individuals involved in building up German internet genealogy from scratch, I must say that they certainly had a right to sell the name but it will forever leave black marks on my fingers were I, at any future time, to type 'www.genealogy.com' to access anything there as a Broderbund URL. Fred The Rumps at Pelican Lake Motorcoach Resort 4788 Corian Court Naples, FL 34114-9418 941-775-7838 PS Genealogists live in the past lane
Date: 1998/12/04 17:44:35
From: Bruno Bauernschmidt <bauernschmidt(a)odn.de>
To all members of the Franken-list: [same message also in the Bavaria-list published] about one and a half week ago I offerd in this list to do lookups in the archive of the 'Gesellschaft fuer Familienforschung in Franken ' (GFF) in Nuernberg in Franconia, northern Bavaria. Since this day I got about 200 mails, most of them private, with little or great questions. Now I begin to work down this mountain, but I think it will take three or four months, until I reach the last mail. Today I will make a little overview about the material in our archive and about the possibilities to search. So you can see, what kind of help (also in the future!) is possible (and sloe, what is impossible): The archive contents: 1. A collection of about 8000 genealogical books and periodicals (authors, titles and catchwords can be searched in a database) 2. A collection of about 900 Ahnenlisten (family-trees), which we got from our members since the last 70 years 3. A paper card-index with about 80.000 filing-cards, sorted by surname. This card-index contents the surnames of about 400 of the Ahnenlisten (the other 500 are mostly not searchable!) 4. A electronical database with about 450.000 records. This database contents the records of about 100 members, who works with the computer and gave their records together. The background is to find out connections between different members and therefore most of this members are interested to get contact with other peoples, who are searching for the same surnames or in the same region, town or village. 5. A special list with about 6.000 persons, who emigrated between 1834 and 1867 (only the region of middle Franconia [Mittelfranken] and only 'official' emigrants, which were published in the newspaper. The list is a extract of this newspaper). 6. A special database with about 20.000 names of villages (and also single farmhouses or mills) in Franconia. This are the possibilities to make searches for you. Please notice, that the database and the card-index contains only records, which belongs to Franconia (that means only the northern part of Bavaria without the Oberpfalz). Therefore I am not able to find something for each of your questions. Some of your questions belongs to other parts of Bavaria or to other parts of germany. Bruno Bauernschmidt from Franconia bauernschmidt(a)odn.de
Date: 1998/12/06 17:38:21
From: Bob Dubel <rvdubel(a)email.msn.com>
>From the Nuernberg area, my ancestors came from the towns of Oedenreuth, Rosstal, Grosshabersdorf, Fernabrunst, Muncherl-bach, Buchschwabach and Trettendorf. BETTSCHNITT, resided there ca 1730-1830. BEHMAN, resided there ca 1610-1700. GASTNER, resided there ca 1640-1810. KNOD, resided there ca 1620-1750. LIST, resided there ca 1610-1730. WACKERSREUTHER, resided there ca 1710-1840. WARNICK, resided there ca 1650-1750. Margaretha Bettschnitt was the only one who came to USA, in 1855. Mattias Bettschnitt (1738-1794) was master weaver in Fernabrunst. Religion Protestant. I would like to correspond with anyone who is researching these names in this area. Thank you. Zelda Zeuge Dubel, rvdubel(a)email.msn.com
Date: 1998/12/06 17:38:22
From: Bob Dubel <rvdubel(a)email.msn.com>
1st generation: Mattias BETTSCHNITT, b 23 Jun 1738 Fernabrunst? near Nuernberg, d 16 Mar 1794 Grosshabersdorf near Nuernberg, m ca 1768 Oedenreuth? near Nuernberg to Unknown. 2nd generation: Johann Leonhard BETTSCHNITT, b 13 Mar 1771 Oedenreuth near Nuernberg, d 30 Aug 1839 Oedenreuth near Nuernberg, m 6 July 1800 in Oedenreuth near Nuernberg to Kunigunde WACKERSREUTHER. Johann had a brother Johann Casper BETTSCHNITT, b ca 1770 Grosshabersdorf near Nuernberg, m Barbara ---. 3rd generation: Anna Elizabeth BETTSCHNITT, b 6 Feb 1802 Oedenreuth near Nuernberg, d 27 Nov 1834 Oedenreuth near Nuernberg, m Unknown or was unmarried. 4th generation: Margaretha BETTSCHNITT, b 6 Aug 1832 Oedenreuth near Nuernberg, immigrated to IA, USA 1855, m 1856 in IA to Johann Jacob WEISCHEDEL. She d 7 Aug 1911 SD, he d 1869 IA. I know nothing more about Bettschnitt nor Wackersreuther and have no other correspondents who work on those surnames. I know Weischedel descendants who are also Margaretha Bettschnitt's descendants. In Dec. 1997 I published a book Weischedel and Related Families from Feuerbach, Wuerttemberg, Germany 1550-1997; a Genealogy, by Zelda Zeuge Dubel, $51.00 postpaid. The book contains the information that I know about Bettschnitt and related names from the Nuernberg area. I will post a separate query about those names. I'm seeking Bettschnitt and Wackersreuther research in Germany at this time. Zelda Zeuge Dubel
Date: 1998/12/06 19:09:36
From: Joseph Kempf <a046898t(a)bc.seflin.org>
Hi! An searching KEMPF, WEIPPERT, BESLER all from Buchold HERGENROTHER from Euerdotf and Buchold AlsoKEMPF from Uengerhausen. Would like to correspond with those of same towns Regards, Joe Joe Kempf a046898t(a)bc.seflin.org
Date: 1998/12/13 12:04:02
From: Rafal Prinke <rafalp(a)amu.edu.pl>
Hello, I am trying to find information about the "von Stiebar" or "Stiebar von Buttenheim" family from Franken. They were medieval knighthood and later received the titles of barons and counts from Austrian emperors. Among other towns and castles, they held Pretzfeld (in the centre of Nürnberg-Bamberg-Bayreuth triangle) which has their coat-of-arms incorporated into the municipal arms. The little information I have comes from Ernst Heinrich Kneschke, _Neuses allgemeines Deutsches Adels-Lexicon_, vol. 9, Leipzig 1870, p. 36-38. The time period I am interested in is the second half of the 16th c. I would be most grateful for help in tracing any monograph of that family covering that period (if such exists), or a reference on nobility/knighthood in Franken. Best regards, Rafal T. Prinke rafalp(a)amu.edu.pl http://hum.amu.edu.pl/~rafalp
Date: 1998/12/15 04:16:48
From: Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints <raggedis(a)together.net>
Joe,
I'm also looking for people from Buchold, namely Muller, Hubbman, and
Gumpert. I'm also interested in knowing more about the town and area; have
you any info on Buchold, Arnstein (of which Buchold is now part),
Bergthiem, Opferbaum, or other area towns?
Were we in touch once before?
Dick Gumpert
At 01:09 PM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote:
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>Hi!
>An searching KEMPF, WEIPPERT, BESLER all from Buchold
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>HERGENROTHER from Euerdotf and Buchold
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>AlsoKEMPF from Uengerhausen.
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>Would like to correspond with those of same towns
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>Regards, Joe
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>Joe Kempf
>a046898t(a)bc.seflin.org
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Date: 1998/12/19 02:36:17
From: Peter Poehls <p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca>
I am researching the Schloetterlein family of Lauda. I would be happy to hear from anyone who has come across this family in their research. Better still perhaps someone is related. My GGGrandfather was Moritz Anton Schloetterlein a farmer from Lauda. Thank you. Peter Poehls Moonstone p.poehls(a)sympatico.ca