Date: 1998/10/17 02:54:13
From: John Helmut Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net>
Hallo, Franken, und solche die es gerne sein moechten, warte schon ueber 24 Stunden fuer eine einzige kleine Meldung, aber nichts kommt, was ist los? Niemand zuhause? Hello, listers, I joined this list yesterday and have yet to see the first posting, anybody home? This short note is to let you know that I am not a 'Franke', rather a Hesse, and my hobby is to research the Hessians of the American Revolution, the one's which were hired by King George III to fight those rebels. Many of them were called Hessians, but really came from all corners of Germany, why, there was even a Regiment from Bayreuth, and one from Ansbach, we call them the Ansbach-Bayreuther. Interesting stuff. Just today I researched one who came from Erlangen, the city just north of Nuernberg. His name was Zeilmann. Well, that's all the introduction I give you for today, who wants to know more, by all means put some questions on this list. BTW, does this list have an archive? And if it has, how do I access it? John Helmut Merz, http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian I am at home in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: 1998/10/18 04:59:07
From: John Helmut Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net>
Hello, Frankenland, could not at least the listowner reply to my question? Not only did I not see any postings go through, but this posting of mine was not answered. Or is it just you and me? John John Helmut Merz wrote: > > Hallo, Franken, und solche die es gerne sein moechten, warte schon > ueber 24 Stunden fuer eine einzige kleine Meldung, aber nichts kommt, > was ist los? Niemand zuhause? > > Hello, listers, I joined this list yesterday and have yet to see the > first posting, anybody home? This short note is to let you know that > I am not a 'Franke', rather a Hesse, and my hobby is to research the > Hessians of the American Revolution, the one's which were hired by > King George III to fight those rebels. Many of them were called > Hessians, but really came from all corners of Germany, why, there > was even a Regiment from Bayreuth, and one from Ansbach, we call them > the Ansbach-Bayreuther. Interesting stuff. > Just today I researched one who came from Erlangen, the city just > north of Nuernberg. His name was Zeilmann. > > Well, that's all the introduction I give you for today, who wants > to know more, by all means put some questions on this list. > BTW, does this list have an archive? And if it has, how do I access it? > John Helmut Merz, http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian > I am at home in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: 1998/10/18 05:22:16
From: Jim Amaral <jamaral(a)columbus.rr.com>
OK, I'll play along. What do Hessian soldiers have to do with our franken newsgroup? and did Joan Z get back from her trip? and What happened to Joe's trip to Zanesville? what happened to the energy of the last roll call? I get 3-6 messages a day in my Hannover group. This one has been quiet for weeks. JimA John Helmut Merz wrote: > Hello, Frankenland, could not at least the listowner reply to > my question? Not only did I not see any postings go through, but this > posting of mine was not answered. Or is it just you and me? John > > John Helmut Merz wrote: > > > > Hallo, Franken, und solche die es gerne sein moechten, warte schon > > ueber 24 Stunden fuer eine einzige kleine Meldung, aber nichts kommt, > > was ist los? Niemand zuhause? > > > > Hello, listers, I joined this list yesterday and have yet to see the > > first posting, anybody home? This short note is to let you know that > > I am not a 'Franke', rather a Hesse, and my hobby is to research the > > Hessians of the American Revolution, the one's which were hired by > > King George III to fight those rebels. Many of them were called > > Hessians, but really came from all corners of Germany, why, there > > was even a Regiment from Bayreuth, and one from Ansbach, we call them > > the Ansbach-Bayreuther. Interesting stuff. > > Just today I researched one who came from Erlangen, the city just > > north of Nuernberg. His name was Zeilmann. > > > > Well, that's all the introduction I give you for today, who wants > > to know more, by all means put some questions on this list. > > BTW, does this list have an archive? And if it has, how do I access it? > > John Helmut Merz, http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian > > I am at home in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: 1998/10/18 05:45:35
From: John Helmut Merz <hessian(a)cgocable.net>
My goodness, here is an answer, but really, your questions are a bit off the mark, or are you just kidding me? What have Hessians to do with the Franken? I left the explanation of my first posting for you to read and digest once more. Unless Bayreuth, Ansbach and Erlangen don't belong to the Franken, then we don't have anything to talk about, but if this places belong to the Franken area which this list is supposed to cover, then we have a lot to talk about, does that agree with you? Cheerfully, John :) Jim Amaral wrote: > > OK, I'll play along. What do Hessian soldiers have to do with our franken > newsgroup? > and did Joan Z get back from her trip? > and What happened to Joe's trip to Zanesville? > what happened to the energy of the last roll call? I get 3-6 messages a day > in my Hannover group. This one has been quiet for weeks. > JimA > > John Helmut Merz wrote: > > > Hello, Frankenland, could not at least the listowner reply to > > > Hessians of the American Revolution, the one's which were hired by > > > King George III to fight those rebels. Many of them were called > > > Hessians, but really came from all corners of Germany, why, there > > > was even a Regiment from Bayreuth, and one from Ansbach, we call them > > > the Ansbach-Bayreuther. Interesting stuff. > > > Just today I researched one who came from Erlangen, the city just > > > north of Nuernberg. His name was Zeilmann. > > > BTW, does this list have an archive? > > > John Helmut Merz, http://www.cgo.wave.ca/~hessian
Date: 1998/10/18 06:07:16
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
On 17 Oct 98, at 23:30, Jim Amaral wrote about Re: Ins Land der Franken fahren.: > OK, I'll play along. What do Hessian soldiers have to do with our franken > newsgroup? and did Joan Z get back from her trip? and What happened to > Joe's trip to Zanesville? what happened to the energy of the last roll > call? I get 3-6 messages a day in my Hannover group. This one has been > quiet for weeks. JimA > > John Helmut Merz wrote: > > > Hello, Frankenland, could not at least the listowner reply to Maybe John tried to encourage some discussion? :-) Seriously, the Ansbacher Jäger were from Frankenland. John mentions Erlangen, that was in the Markgraftentum Ansbach- Bayreuth-Kulmbach or short the Fürstentum Ansbach. These Jägers who were shipped here to serve the British are often referred to as the Hessian Jägers when they really were Franken folk. Quite a few died here and others stayed. Fred 26 Warren St. Beverly, NJ 08010 or 4788 Corian Court at 4555 Southern Breeze Drive, Naples, FL 34114 or 6281 Hwy 20, Foster, OR 97345 fred(a)compu.com, fred(a)k2nesoft.com, FredRump(a)home.com http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred
Date: 1998/10/19 06:13:22
From: Joan Zeller <71163.573(a)compuserve.com>
Hello Jim and Group, Yes, I'm back from my trip, and what a fantastic trip it was! I haven't forgotten the list, just haven't had time to post. Haven't even organized my photos, entered my data, or finished all my thank you notes yet. The trip was most fruitful. I answered all the questions I had hoped to, solved some old mysteries, and found many more questions and mysteries to work on. I do plan on letting you folks know details, especially about archives, but I'm still trying to catch up on my life. In short, accessibility to records was completely variable depending on local interpretation of the regulations, from letting me see and copy anything I wanted, to not even letting me SEE records that were not my direct ancestors. More later. One question: does anyone know what the letters "S.S.r.b.d.S." at the bottom of a tombstone stand for? I found this on several graves in Kleinbardorf. Joan Zeller Rochester, NY
Date: 1998/10/20 04:26:57
From: W. Fred Rump <fred(a)k2nesoft.com>
Schreib eine email an majordomo(a)genealogy.net mit text: "get" franken-l franken-l.archive.9810 the 98 is the year the 10 is Oct.or sub your own dates or first send and "info" request don't use the quotes above. That's only to get by the mailserv software Fred 26 Warren St. Beverly, NJ 08010 or 4788 Corian Court at 4555 Southern Breeze Drive, Naples, FL 34114 or 6281 Hwy 20, Foster, OR 97345 fred(a)compu.com, fred(a)k2nesoft.com, FredRump(a)home.com http://www.k2nesoft.com/~fred
Date: 1998/10/28 13:07:59
From: SISTER ANNAMARY FELLNER <afellner(a)mail.usmo.com>
My great grandparents, George and Anna (LOOSHORN) FELLNER emigrated from Geusmanns (near Elbersberg) Oberfranken to the U.s. in 1877. George's father (also named George) and his brother (George Peter) followed them to the U.S. several years later. George had three sisters who remained in Germany. One of them (Anna Fellner) married Lawrence DRESSEL and they moved to Etzdorf. Three of the Dressel children (George, Marie, and Margaret) moved to the U.S. The other three remained in Germany: one became a Carmelite nun (Sister Romana) and the other two (Christine Helldorfer and Anna Heumann) married. George's grandparents were JOHANNES & MAGDALENA (STROBEL) FELLNER. George's mother's maiden name was ZITZMANN. Anna (Looshorn) Fellner had several brothers and sisters; one of these was JOHN LOOSHORN who died in 1942 and who still has descendants living in the Geusmanns/Elbersberg area. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who might have a suggestion as to how I could discover more about my Germany ancestry. Thank you very much! Sister Annamary Fellner Union, Missouri USA
Date: 1998/10/28 13:50:43
From: Mueller Lothar <Lothar.Mueller(a)nbgm.siemens.de>
Hallo, in der Linie meiner Frau bin ich auf eine Familie Rössel aus Schwabach (Mittelfranken) gestoßen, bei der ich bisher noch nicht so recht weitergekommen bin. Wer ist in dieser Linie schon weiter gekommen als ich und hat eventuell weitere Informationen zu den u.g. Personen? Für jede zusätzliche Information wäre ich sehr dankbar. Viele Grüße Lothar Müller -------------------------------------------------------------------- Georg Albrecht RÖSSEL (1) Geburt : 14.05.1766 Schwabach Taufe : 15.05.1766 Schwabach Tod : 20.04.1831 Weißenburg Beruf : Bortenmachermeister Religion: evangelisch verheiratet mit Catharina Barbara STIEBER am 20.11.1798 in Weißenburg Kinder : 16.05.1800 Christian Georg RÖSSEL ----------------------------------------------------------- Burkhard Albrecht RÖSSEL (2) Geburt : 27.10.1731 Schwabach Taufe : 28.10.1731 Schwabach Beruf : Bortenmacher Religion: evangelisch verheiratet mit Margaretha Barbara HOLZBERGER am 13.11.1758 in Schwabach verheiratet mit Agnes Maria KÄSTER am 22.07.1765 in Schwabach ----------------------------------------------------------- Agnes Maria KÄSTER (3) Geburt : 11.08.1739 Schwabach Taufe : 11.08.1739 Schwabach Religion: evangelisch ----------------------------------------------------------- Johann Georg RÖSSEL (4) verheiratet mit Elisabeth OSSWALD (5) am 26.02.1726 in Schwabach ----------------------------------------------------------- Andreas KÄSTER (6) Beruf : Gold- u. Silberarbeiter verheiratet mit Maria N. (7)
Date: 1998/10/28 14:50:43
From: Ragged Island Books Maps & Prints <raggedis(a)together.net>
I can't offer any help with Rossel (if with the help of my Cassell's German & English I came anywhere close to the meaning of your message) but perhaps you can help me. As they say leave not stone (well, in the case, Mueller) unturned. I'm looking for any information on Nicholas Mueller who married Elizabeth Hubbman in Buchold. Dick Gumpert At 01:50 PM 10/28/98 +0100, you wrote: >Hallo, > >in der Linie meiner Frau bin ich auf eine Familie Rössel aus Schwabach >(Mittelfranken) gestoßen, bei der ich bisher noch nicht so recht >weitergekommen bin. >Wer ist in dieser Linie schon weiter gekommen als ich und hat eventuell >weitere Informationen zu den u.g. Personen? >Für jede zusätzliche Information wäre ich sehr dankbar. > >Viele Grüße >Lothar Müller >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Georg Albrecht RÖSSEL (1) >Geburt : 14.05.1766 Schwabach >Taufe : 15.05.1766 Schwabach >Tod : 20.04.1831 Weißenburg >Beruf : Bortenmachermeister >Religion: evangelisch >verheiratet mit Catharina Barbara STIEBER am 20.11.1798 in Weißenburg >Kinder : 16.05.1800 Christian Georg RÖSSEL >----------------------------------------------------------- >Burkhard Albrecht RÖSSEL (2) >Geburt : 27.10.1731 Schwabach >Taufe : 28.10.1731 Schwabach >Beruf : Bortenmacher >Religion: evangelisch >verheiratet mit Margaretha Barbara HOLZBERGER am 13.11.1758 in Schwabach >verheiratet mit Agnes Maria KÄSTER am 22.07.1765 in Schwabach >----------------------------------------------------------- >Agnes Maria KÄSTER (3) >Geburt : 11.08.1739 Schwabach >Taufe : 11.08.1739 Schwabach >Religion: evangelisch >----------------------------------------------------------- >Johann Georg RÖSSEL (4) >verheiratet mit Elisabeth OSSWALD (5) am 26.02.1726 in Schwabach >----------------------------------------------------------- >Andreas KÄSTER (6) >Beruf : Gold- u. Silberarbeiter >verheiratet mit Maria N. (7) > > > >