Date: 2008/05/04 05:21:21
From: Mary Westerback <mwesterback(a)wavecable.com>
My great-grandmother, Mary Coors was born in Germany on August 19, 1839. I am trying to find out about the place where she was born and if she had a brother Henry. It has been impossible to find anything here in the United States. In America she married Friedrick Haeberlin from Lindau. I wonder if there is or was a Lutheran Church in Leeste. Can anyone help me with this information? Is there any way to contact people who might be able to help? The family has a very illegible certificate of her birth and baptism. It does have the church seal and I can e-mail the document if that would help. The document is in terrible condition and the writing is very hard to read. Three of my friends who speak German helped me. They tell me the document is in a combination of Latin and Old German What we think we have deciphered is: It seems a daughter (probably Marie) was born on August 19, 1839 to houseman Hermann Coors and his wife Dorothea Castens in Hagen. It looks like a baptism took place later in 1839 in a month ending in " ber" (September, October, November, December) perhaps in Winkel. (There is a big piece torn out of document) The document (partially destroyed) has a "Seal of the Church" and is apparently signed by Botcher (accent over the o). It records a date of 26 or 28 August, 1879. My friend writes: Finally found some leads in a very detailed old atlas of Germany, looking up place names: Leeste is a small town, a couple of miles south of the city limits of Bremen. There also is a town about 20 miles north of Bremen. First I looked for Geeste, but that turned out to be a river in the same neck of the woods, but when I started looking for Hagen, everything fell into place and started to make sense. Ludeke is a name with a distinct NW German sound to it (might be a Frisian name). So it has to be a document issued by the church in Leeste (not Geeste). My friend's hypothesis: the pastor (?) of the church, writing a document to be mailed to the U.S. tried to use the Latin alphabet, but by habit kept slipping back into the Old German script. P. S, If I had not had such a detailed map and stumbled across the name while trying to locate Hagen by the map coordinates I never would have found out that it was Leeste. .
Date: 2008/05/05 01:15:49
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Here's the church in Leeste: http://www.kirche-weyhe.de/leeste/index.html http://www.kirche-weyhe.de/ Marilyn > My great-grandmother, Mary Coors was born in Germany on August 19, 1839. > I am trying to find out about the place where she was born and if she > had a brother Henry. > It has been impossible to find anything here in the United States. In > America she married Friedrick Haeberlin from Lindau. > > I wonder if there is or was a Lutheran Church in Leeste. Can anyone > help me with this information? Is there any way to contact people who > might be able to help? > > The family has a very illegible certificate of her birth and baptism. It > does have the church seal and I can e-mail the document if that would > help. The document is in terrible condition and the writing is very > hard to read. Three of my friends who speak German helped me. They > tell me the document is in a combination of Latin and Old German > > > What we think we have deciphered is: > > It seems a daughter (probably Marie) was born on August 19, 1839 to > houseman Hermann Coors and his wife Dorothea Castens in Hagen. It looks > like a baptism took place later in 1839 in a month ending in " ber" > (September, October, November, December) perhaps in Winkel. (There is a > big piece torn out of document) > > The document (partially destroyed) has a "Seal of the Church" and is > apparently signed by Botcher (accent over the o). It records a date of > 26 or 28 August, 1879. > > My friend writes: > > Finally found some leads in a very detailed old atlas of Germany, > looking up place names: Leeste is a small town, a couple of miles > south of the city limits of Bremen. There also is a town about 20 miles > north of Bremen. First I looked for Geeste, but that turned out to be a > river in the same neck of the woods, but when I started looking for > Hagen, everything fell into place and started to make sense. Ludeke is > a name with a distinct NW German sound to it (might be a Frisian name). > So it has to be a document issued by the church in Leeste (not Geeste). > > My friend's hypothesis: the pastor (?) of the church, writing a document > to be mailed to the U.S. tried to use the Latin alphabet, but by habit > kept slipping back into the Old German script. > > P. S, If I had not had such a detailed map and stumbled across the name > while trying to locate Hagen by the map coordinates I never would have > found out that it was Leeste. . > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2008/05/05 18:08:07
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
This Google Map-Link shows Hagen im Bremischen: http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&ie=UTF8&q=Hagen+Deutschland&ll=53.35301,8.651218&spn=0.390175,0.928345&z=10&iwloc=addr > It seems a daughter (probably Marie) was born on August 19, 1839 to > houseman Hermann Coors and his wife Dorothea Castens in Hagen. It looks > like a baptism took place later in 1839 in a month ending in " ber" > (September, October, November, December) perhaps in Winkel. (There is a > big piece torn out of document) Leeste is a part of Weyhe, about 30 miles south from Hagen. About 15 miles south-east from Leeste is a place Winkel, as part of the villages Blender, close to the Weser river. Maybe it helps, Werner Honkomp
Date: 2008/05/05 18:13:05
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
About 15 miles south-east from Leeste is a place Winkel, as part of the villages Blender, close to the Weser river. Here some Coors addresses in Blender: Coors, A. 27337 Blender Coors, Carsten u. Petra 27337 Blender Coors, Fritz Ostpreußenstr. 8 27337 Blender Maybe it helps, Werner Honkomp
Date: 2008/05/06 06:42:09
From: Bernd Salewski <salewski.hambergen(a)ewetel.net>
My great-grandmother, Mary Coors was born in Germany on August 19, 1839. I am trying to find out about the place where she was born and if she had a brother Henry. It has been impossible to find anything here in the United States. In America she married Friedrick Haeberlin from Lindau.
I wonder if there is or was a Lutheran Church in Leeste. Can anyone help me with this information? Is there any way to contact people who might be able to help?
The family has a very illegible certificate of her birth and baptism. It does have the church seal and I can e-mail the document if that would help. The document is in terrible condition and the writing is very hard to read. Three of my friends who speak German helped me. They tell me the document is in a combination of Latin and Old German
What we think we have deciphered is:
It seems a daughter (probably Marie) was born on August 19, 1839 to houseman Hermann Coors and his wife Dorothea Castens in Hagen. It looks like a baptism took place later in 1839 in a month ending in " ber" (September, October, November, December) perhaps in Winkel. (There is a big piece torn out of document)
The document (partially destroyed) has a "Seal of the Church" and is apparently signed by Botcher (accent over the o). It records a date of 26 or 28 August, 1879.
My friend writes:
Finally found some leads in a very detailed old atlas of Germany, looking up place names: Leeste is a small town, a couple of miles south of the city limits of Bremen. There also is a town about 20 miles north of Bremen. First I looked for Geeste, but that turned out to be a river in the same neck of the woods, but when I started looking for Hagen, everything fell into place and started to make sense. Ludeke is a name with a distinct NW German sound to it (might be a Frisian name). So it has to be a document issued by the church in Leeste (not Geeste).
My friend's hypothesis: the pastor (?) of the church, writing a document to be mailed to the U.S. tried to use the Latin alphabet, but by habit kept slipping back into the Old German script.
P. S, If I had not had such a detailed map and stumbled across the name
while trying to locate Hagen by the map coordinates I never would have
found out that it was Leeste. .
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Date: 2008/05/09 21:56:54
From: MHuenken <MHuenken(a)aol.com>
Hallo Liste, ich habe bei einem Vorfahren in Ganderkesee den Begriff Junckermeyer gefunden. Kann mir vielleicht jemand sagen was das bedeutet? Viele Grüß und schon mal Frohe Pfingsten Inge (Hünken)
Date: 2008/05/10 09:55:30
From: Heiko Ahlers <HeikoAhlers(a)t-online.de>
Hallo, der war wohl "Meyer" (eine Art Erbpächter) bei einem "Junker" (Kleinadel). Heiko Ahlers <MHuenken(a)aol.com> schrieb: >Hallo Liste, > >ich habe bei einem Vorfahren in Ganderkesee den Begriff Junckermeyer >gefunden. > >Kann mir vielleicht jemand sagen was das bedeutet? > >Viele Grüß und schon mal Frohe Pfingsten > >Inge (Hünken) > > > > > >Oldenburg-L mailing list >Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2008/05/10 09:58:19
From: MHuenken <MHuenken(a)aol.com>
Danke für die Aufklärung Inge
Date: 2008/05/10 11:30:36
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Date: 2008/05/10 14:59:15
From: Fritz Buentemeyer <Fritz(a)Buentemeyer.name>
Fritz (Büntemeyer) Wiefelstede
Date: 2008/05/12 20:40:39
From: Gabriele Landwehr <gabriele_landwehr(a)msn.com>
Liebe Listenteilnehmer, beigefügten Artikel empfehle ich zur Kenntnisnahme. http://www.welt.de/welt_print/article1886854/Das_Geschft_mit_der_Suche_nach_ den_Wurzeln.html Mit freundlichen Grüßen Gabriele
Date: 2008/05/12 20:41:18
From: Gabriele Landwehr <gabriele_landwehr(a)msn.com>
Liebe Listenteilnehmer, beigefügten Artikel empfehle ich zur Kenntnisnahme. http://www.welt.de/welt_print/article1886854/Das_Geschft_mit_der_Suche_nach_ den_Wurzeln.html Mit freundlichen Grüßen Gabriele
Date: 2008/05/13 17:40:46
From: Rolf Froböse <rolf.froboese(a)t-online.de>
Liebe Forscherkolleginnen und Kollegen, mein Name ist Rolf Froböse. Gemeinsam mit einem Verwandten habe ich eine Datenbank aufgebaut, in der sich aktuell 3690 Namen befinden. Siehe http://wanderer-familie.de/ahnen/index.php?ctype=gedcom Bei der Gelegenheit möchte ich mich kurz vorstellen. Ich bin 58 Jahre alt und lebe mit meiner Familie in Wasserburg a. Inn. Mein Beruf ist der Wissenschaftsjournalismus. Eine aktuelle Kostprobe mit einem Thema, das bei Ahnenforschern sicher auch auf Interesse stoßen dürfte, findet sich hier http://www.morgenpost.de/desk/1938328.html Mit sonnigen Grüßen aus Wasserburg Rolf Froböse
Date: 2008/05/13 18:11:21
From: AphoebeM <AphoebeM(a)aol.com>
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Date: 2008/05/13 18:20:52
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
The Saxon Chronicle: The Capitalists The Heirs The Millers' Daughters
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Date: 2008/05/13 20:19:47
From: Gene <jansseng(a)cornernet.com>
I've been looking for several years for such books.
The best that I've run across is actually a historical fiction series by Jane Ellen Swan:
The Saxon Chronicle: The Capitalists The Heirs The Millers' Daughters
These novels are based on the author's genealogy. They are fictional, but based on historical facts and how they may have affected her ancestors. They are set in the Kingdom of Hanover with travels
to other parts of Germany and Europe.
Highly recommended read for people of German ancestry.
AphoebeM(a)aol.com wrote:Our German Genealogy group is looking for books in English on the social, cultural and history of the various German states. Any suggestions??
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Date: 2008/05/13 21:50:35
From: Womartens <Womartens(a)aol.com>
Liebe Mitglieder und Listenteilnehmer, am Sonnabend, dem 17. Mai 2008, findet die 8. Norddeutsche Computergenealogiebörse in der Ostsee-Akademie im Pommern-Zentrum in Travemünde statt, Beginn ist um 10.00 Uhr und Gastgeber ist der Pommersche Greif e.V. Auch die Oldenburgische Gesellschaft für Familienkunde e.V. aus Niedersachsen wird dort mit einem Stand vertreten sein. Neben Auskünften und Informationen werden wir folgende Publikationen präsentieren: Oldenburgische Ortsfamilienbücher auf CD-ROM (seit 2002) von Varel, Barßel, Waddens, Berne, Jade und Wiefelstede; die aktuellen Hefte der Schriftenreihe "Oldenburgische Familienkunde"(seit 1959) und "Gelbe Reihe - Quellen und Hilfsmittel zur Familienforschung"(seit 2003) sowie die neue Reihe "Quellen und Forschungen zur oldenburgischen Familienkunde auf CD-ROM" (seit 2006). Weitere Informationen über die 21 Aussteller siehe unter: _www.pommerscher-greif.de_ (http://www.pommerscher-greif.de) Wir freuen uns auf Ihren Besuch Wolfgang Martens _www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de_ (http://www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de)
Date: 2008/05/14 16:33:15
From: Roger Engels <atacama(a)verizon.net>
-An excellent tale is "The Burgermeister's Daughter," by Steven Ozment. A story of social mores and women's rights in the 16th century. Roger Engels
Date: 2008/05/14 22:03:37
From: Marie Renken <marie.renken(a)ewetel.net>
Am kommenden Samstag (17. Mai 2008) findet die wichtigste ( :-) ) Veranstaltung für Familienforscher in diesem Frühjahr in Norddeutschland statt:
die 8. Norddeutsche Computergenealogiebörse im Pommern-Zentrum in der Ostsee-Akademie im Europaweg 3 in Travemünde.
Ca. 25 Aussteller informieren über - genealogische Vereine - genealogische Software und - andere Dienstleistungen rund um die Familienforschung.
Marie Renken Sprecherin der Organisationsgruppe im Pommerschen Greif e.V.
Date: 2008/05/15 15:33:38
From: Rolf Froböse <rolf.froboese(a)t-online.de>
Liebe Forscherkolleginnen und Kollegen, ich hatte mich vor einigen Tagen in dieser Liste mit einer umfangreichen Datenbank und einen kurzen Hinweis auf einen Artikel aus meiner Feder vorgestellt. Da dieser Artikel aus urheberrechtlichen Gründen einen Fußnotenvermerk auf mein neuestes Buch Die geheime Physik des Zufalls enthielt, wurde dieser Link von einigen als unzulässige Werbung reklamiert. Andere wiederum haben meinen Zeitungsartikel konstruktiv kommentiert, wofür ich mich herzlich bedanken möchte. Hauptanstoß der Kritiker war der Umstand, dass ein ursächlicher Zusammenhang zwischen dem Inhalt des Zeitungsartikels und der Genealogie nicht ersichtlich war. Ich muss dem entgegen halten, dass der Kommissar Zufall mich in meinem Leben häufig begleitet hat, so auch in der Genealogie, wie der unten aufgeführte Ausschnitt aus meinem Buch verdeutlichen soll. Wenn jemand etwas Vergleichbares erlebt hat, würde ich mich über eine Resonanz sehr freuen. Bitte schicken Sie mir evtl. Mitteilungen aber unter rolf.froboese(a)t-online.de, damit sich andere Listenmitglieder nicht belästigt fühlen. Ich wünsche allen anderen Ahnenforschern, dass Kommissar Zufall einen guten Beitrag leistet, um fehlende Mosaiksteinchen zu finden. Herzlich grüßt Rolf (Froböse) Das Familienwappen Seit Mitte der 1990er Jahre interessiere ich mich für die Genealogie. In diesem Zusammenhang stieß ich auf einen Literaturhinweis, dass sich in der Sakristei der Lübecker St. Jacobi Kirche ein aus dem Jahre 1667 stammendes Wappen der Familie befindet. Um in den Besitz einer Fotographie des Wappens zu kommen, hätte ich von meinem oberbayerischen Wohnsitz aus eine 900 km lange Reise antreten müssen. Zum Glück gibt es für Ahnenforscher regionale Mailinglisten. Also trug ich mein Anliegen in die Mailing-Liste für Schleswig-Holstein ein in der ich nach einem ortsansässigen Ahnenforscher suchte, der gegen Erstattung sämtlicher Auslagen bereit war, ein Foto für mich anzufertigen. Bereits nach einem Tag erhielt ich von einem anderen Hobby-Genealogen eine Zusage. Während des ersten Telefonats erfuhr ich, dass dieser nicht in Lübeck sondern in einer 50 km entfernten Kleinstadt wohnte. Da mir an dem Foto sehr gelegen war, bot ich ihm selbstverständlich an, neben dem Filmmaterial (es war vor der Digitalkamera-Ära) auch noch die Auslagen für die Anreise zu übernehmen. Er lehnte dieses ab und sagte mir wörtlich: Ich habe das Gefühl, dass ich das für Dich tun muss! Hoch erfreut aber auch leicht beschämt nahm ich das Angebot des Unbekannten an. Nach wenigen Tagen meldete er sich aufgeregt am Telefon: Ich habe Unglaubliches zu berichten, sagte er mit bebender Stimme. Um Himmel Willen, ist etwas Besonderes mit dem Wappen los? fragte ich ihn nichts ahnend. Das kann man wohl sagen, beim Fotografieren wäre ich beinahe von einer Leiter gefallen! Er teilte mir mit, dass das gesuchte Froböse-Wappen zusammen mit einigen anderen Familienwappen in einer Höhe von etwa 4 Metern an der Wand der Sakristei befestigt sei. Um dieses Fotografieren zu können, habe er sich vom Küster eine Leiter ausgeliehen. Und als ich an der obersten Sprosse angelangt war, musste ich mich vor Erregung stark festhalten, berichtete er. Denn neben Deinem Wappen hing das meiner Familie! Diese Geschichte macht mich heute noch genau so sprachlos wie vor etwa zehn Jahren. Welche innere Stimme vermittelte ihm, ausgerechnet für mich ein Anliegen erfüllen zu müssen? Copyright: Rolf Froböse: Die geheime Physik des Zufalls. Verlag: BoD GmbH, Norderstedt, 2008.
Date: 2008/05/22 15:38:54
From: Klaus Meyer <KlausWernerMeyer(a)web.de>
US Military Collections free online this week
Jane Foley
Part of an announcement from Dick Eastman's newsletter at http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/05/ancestrycom-and.html
"Free Public Access on Ancestry.com
"To commemorate the NARA-Ancestry.com agreement on the eve of Memorial Day, Ancestry.com is making its entire U.S. Military Collection -- the largest online collection of American military records -- available for free to the public. From May 20 through May 31, people can log on to [ http://ancestry.com/military/landing./collections.aspx ] to view more than 100 million names and 700 titles and databases of military records, the majority of which come from NARA, from all 50 U.S. states."
Here is a list of the records available: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/grouplist.aspx?group=war_all
These are probably the most helpful records: Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934 World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 ["Old Man's Draft"]
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Date: 2008/05/23 15:29:59
From: Marlys <itsbirdie2u(a)yahoo.com>
Hello Werner and Listmembers,
We're working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and "Oldenburg". Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child by his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting.
In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper, but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but that they were a second family.
From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died (1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in 1913). This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is buried in St Michaels Cemetery there.
My question is: who was Gerhards' father? We can't seem to find records that connect him to anyone.
Thank you for any help you can give us!
Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky
P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in Minnesota, let me know, ok?
Date: 2008/05/23 17:15:47
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Dear Marlys, The book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus dem ehemeligem Kreise Lingen nach Amerika" by Walter Tenfelde listed this record: Gerhard Henrich Naber, born 24.March.1825 in Elbergen, parish Emsbühren (catholic) emigrated 1847. Parents: Heuermann (tenant farmer) Joan Henrich Naber and Anna Maria Sand For more you should check the LDS Microfilms Emsbühren Good luck, Werner Honkomp > Hello Werner and Listmembers, > We're working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and > "Oldenburg". Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child by > his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting. > In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper, > but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom > said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but > that they were a second family. >>From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that >>Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died >>(1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in >>1913). This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is >>buried in St Michaels Cemetery there. > My question is: who was Gerhards' father? We can't seem to find records > that connect him to anyone. > Thank you for any help you can give us! > Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky > P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in > Minnesota, let me know, ok? > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/05/23 17:56:52
From: Klaus Meyer <KlausWernerMeyer(a)web.de>
a) in Emsbüren e.g. Gerhard Heinrich Naber 1825, parents etc. http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=NABER&ofb=emsbueren&modus=&lang=de
b) Nordhorn http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=NABER&ofb=nordhorn&modus=&lang=de
Dear Marlys, The book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus dem ehemeligem Kreise Lingen nach Amerika" by Walter Tenfelde listed this record:
Gerhard Henrich Naber, born 24.March.1825 in Elbergen, parish Emsbühren (catholic) emigrated 1847. Parents: Heuermann (tenant farmer) Joan Henrich Naber and Anna Maria Sand
Good luck, Werner Honkomp
Hello Werner and Listmembers, We're working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and "Oldenburg". Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child by his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting. In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper, but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but that they were a second family.From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died (1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in 1913). This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is buried in St Michaels Cemetery there.My question is: who was Gerhards' father? We can't seem to find records that connect him to anyone. Thank you for any help you can give us! Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in Minnesota, let me know, ok?
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Date: 2008/05/25 01:41:35
From: Klaus Meyer <KlausWernerMeyer(a)web.de>
Moin, http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=vegesack&ID=33560 = connection Gerhard Conrad Naber oo Regine Christine Schierholz in Bremen Vegesack His father was married twice. Klaus (Meyer) > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Gesendet: 23.05.08 15:30:16 > An: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net > Betreff: [OL] Gerhard Naber 1829 > Hello Werner and Listmembers, > We're working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and "Oldenburg". Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child by his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting. > In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper, but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but that they were a second family. > >From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died (1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in 1913). This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is buried in St Michaels Cemetery there. > My question is: who was Gerhards' father? We can't seem to find records that connect him to anyone. > Thank you for any help you can give us! > Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky > P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in Minnesota, let me know, ok? > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > _________________________________________________________________________ In 5 Schritten zur eigenen Homepage. Jetzt Domain sichern und gestalten! Nur 3,99 EUR/Monat! http://www.maildomain.web.de/?mc=021114
Date: 2008/05/25 01:44:09
From: Marlys <itsbirdie2u(a)yahoo.com>
Dear Werner and Klaus,
Thank you for your quick replies!
As always, though, answers bring more questions:
--My grandmothers' death certificate says her father was John Naber of Petersburg, Iowa, but mom always said his name was Gerhard, so I assumed Johann Gerhardt Naber was my great grandfather. The records from the stones in Sts. Peter & Paul cemetery there include these:
Johann Gerhart Naber, b 1832....d 13 April 1891
J. H. Naber, b 1822....d 18 August 1888
We believe he died in Petersburg, Iowa, but neither of these dates or names match the records you cite, or even the one I gave originally .
Also, the Emsburen heritage book says he left for the USA in 1847, but the Stephani brought Diederich, Hermann, Margaretha, Heinrich and Gerhard Naber from Oldenburg in August of 1851. Of these, Hermann was 25, but the others were 15, 18, 16, and 18 years old.
It looks as though Gerhard used that name as his legal name in the United States (census and land ownership), not John. Could this be the same man?
Thank you again!
Marlys
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 06:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marlys <itsbirdie2u(a)yahoo.com>
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Hello Werner and Listmembers,
We're?working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and "Oldenburg".? Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child?by his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting.
In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper, but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but that they were a second family.
>From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died (1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in 1913).? This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is buried in St Michaels Cemetery there.
My question is: who was Gerhards' father?? We can't seem to find records that connect him to anyone.
Thank you for any help you can give us!
Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky
P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in Minnesota, let me know, ok?
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:18:46 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Gerhard Naber 1829
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Dear Marlys,
The book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus dem ehemeligem Kreise Lingen nach Amerika" by Walter Tenfelde listed this record:
Gerhard Henrich Naber, born 24.March.1825 in Elbergen, parish Emsb?hren (catholic)
emigrated 1847.
Parents: Heuermann (tenant farmer) Joan Henrich Naber and Anna Maria Sand
For more you should check the LDS Microfilms Emsb?hren
Good luck,
Werner Honkomp
> Hello Werner and Listmembers,
> We're?working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and
> "Oldenburg".? Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child?by
> his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting.
> In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper,
> but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom
> said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but
> that they were a second family.
>>From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that
>>Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died
>>(1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in
>>1913).? This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is
>>buried in St Michaels Cemetery there.
> My question is: who was Gerhards' father?? We can't seem to find records
> that connect him to anyone.
> Thank you for any help you can give us!
> Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky
> P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in
> Minnesota, let me know, ok?
> Oldenburg-L mailing list
> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:56:48 +0200
From: "Klaus Meyer" <KlausWernerMeyer(a)web.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Gerhard Naber 1825 - additional: lookup OSB online
Emsb?ren and aerea
To: "Werner Honkomp" <werner(a)honkomp.de>, "Oldenburg-L"
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Dear Marlys,
There are a lot of NABER:
a) in Emsb?ren e.g. Gerhard Heinrich Naber 1825, parents etc.
http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=NABER&ofb=emsbueren&modus=&lang=de
b) Nordhorn
http://www.online-ofb.de/namelist.php?nachname=NABER&ofb=nordhorn&modus=&lang=de
Klaus Meyer
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From: "Werner Honkomp" <werner(a)honkomp.de>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Gerhard Naber 1829
Dear Marlys,
The book "Auswanderungen und Auswanderer aus dem ehemeligem Kreise Lingen
nach Amerika" by Walter Tenfelde listed this record:
Gerhard Henrich Naber, born 24.March.1825 in Elbergen, parish Emsb?hren
(catholic)
emigrated 1847.
Parents: Heuermann (tenant farmer) Joan Henrich Naber and Anna Maria Sand
For more you should check the LDS Microfilms Emsb?hren
Good luck,
Werner Honkomp
> Hello Werner and Listmembers,
> We're working on my mothers' ancestry, the Nabers from "Hannover" and
> "Oldenburg". Mom's mother was Margaret Naber, Gerhard's youngest child by
> his second wife, Elizabeth Schlichting.
> In back-issues of this list, I found that he married Elizabeth Rupiper,
> but Margarets' death certificate claims Elizabeth Schlichting, and Mom
> said her mother had 4 children: John, Gerhard, Catherine and Margaret, but
> that they were a second family.
>>From census, gravestones, local records and family lore, we believe that
>>Gerhards' second Elizabeth moved to Buckman, Minnesota after he died
>>(1891) and before Margaret married my grandfather, Anton Janson (in
>>1913). This Elizabeth lived 3 miles from the Jansons in Buckman, and is
>>buried in St Michaels Cemetery there.
> My question is: who was Gerhards' father? We can't seem to find records
> that connect him to anyone.
> Thank you for any help you can give us!
> Marlys (Hesch) Sebasky
> P.S. If anyone needs look-ups in Morrison or Stearns Counties in
> Minnesota, let me know, ok?
> Oldenburg-L mailing list
> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2008/05/27 20:49:17
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Dear Brigitte,I have some details on Johanne Barnstorf * 12.02.1893...Please let me have your email and I will send what I have to you. -I apologise I do not speak or write German........James Degen.....----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Brigitte Strickstrack Sent: May 28, 2008 9:36 AM To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: [OL] Johanne Barnstorf geb. 12.02.1893 in Geestemuende Guten Tag, durch Zufall erfahre ich von der Suche nach Informationen über meine Großmutter, Johanne Barnstorf. Gerne gebe ich Auskunft, wenn Sie mir mitteilen wofür Sie die Auskünfte erfragen. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Brigitte Strickstrack geb. Krämer Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Wer es gerne ausführlich mag - im Tagebuch http://www.kracke.org/blog/?p=81
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Date: 2008/05/30 12:23:48
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Hallo, ich bin auf der Suche nach Daten/Informationen über Edo Eden Hayen - geboren ca. 1865(+/- 1 Jahr). Verheiratet war er mit Elise Maria (von) Eilers Gewohnt haben sie später in Drielakermoor / Oldenburg Ihr Sohn hieß Albert Gustav Hayen, geboren am 29.10.1910. Hat hier zufällig jemand einen Edo Eden Hayen in seiner Datei? Viele Grüße Nicola