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Date: 2008/04/04 05:44:08
From: Robert Behnen <the.behnen.family(a)sbcglobal.net>
Fellow Researchers! I am assisting a friend with her family's research. From a poorly legible tombstone, we believe Maria Magdalena (Olberding) Meyer was born in the parish of Steinfeld (Oldenburg) on June 18, 1854. In searching previous posts, I see that Fred Rump, Stefan Honkomp and Daniel Kortenkamp have all posted some info about Olberdings from Steinfeld but not about this person. Does someone have easy access the catholic church records in Steinfeld who would be willing to confirm Maria Magdalena Olberding's birth and baptism? Her parents are known to be Henry & Catherine. Once we have confirmed - we will go ahead and order the films through the LDS church. Thanks in advance for anyone able to confirm the above birth. === Ich versuche eine Bekannte mit ihrer Familienforschung zu helfen. Laut einem schwer lesbaren Grabstein sei Maria Magdalena (geborene OLBERDING) Meyer im Kirchspiel Steinfeld (Oldenburg) am 18 Juni 1854 geboren. Aus früheren Nachrichten sehe ich daß Fred Rump, Stefan Honkomp, und Daniel Kortenkamp alle Info über diese Familie Olberding aus Steinfeld mitgeteilt haben aber nicht unbedingt diese Person. Wer kann dieser Geburt oder Taufe bestätigen? Ihre Eltern seien Heinrich und Catharina. Nachdem wir obiger Geburt bestätigt haben, werden wir die Steinfelder KB durch die LDS Kirche leihen. Besten Dank im Voraus für irgendwelche Hilfe oder Info. Bob Behnen Kirksville, Missouri, USA
Date: 2008/04/04 09:45:15
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Bob, you are right. Here the records of Kirchspiel/parish Steinfeld (Oldenburg): * 18.Jun.1854 Maria Magdalena Olberding (no marriage to Meyer) parents: - Johann Heinrich Olberding, farm owner oo 25.Oct.1848 to Maria Agnes Meyer (widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer) + 04.Mar.1858 I hope it hepls, Werner Honkomp > Fellow Researchers! > I am assisting a friend with her family's research. From a poorly > legible tombstone, we believe Maria Magdalena (Olberding) Meyer was born > in the parish of Steinfeld (Oldenburg) > on June 18, 1854. > In searching previous posts, I see that Fred Rump, Stefan Honkomp and > Daniel Kortenkamp have all posted some info about Olberdings from > Steinfeld but not about this person. Does someone have easy access the > catholic church records in Steinfeld who would be willing to confirm > Maria Magdalena Olberding's birth and baptism? Her parents are known to > be Henry & Catherine. > Once we have confirmed - we will go ahead and order the films through > the LDS church. Thanks in advance for anyone able to confirm the above > birth. > === > Ich versuche eine Bekannte mit ihrer Familienforschung zu helfen. Laut > einem schwer lesbaren Grabstein sei Maria Magdalena (geborene OLBERDING) > Meyer im Kirchspiel Steinfeld (Oldenburg) am 18 Juni 1854 geboren. > Aus früheren Nachrichten sehe ich daß Fred Rump, Stefan Honkomp, und > Daniel Kortenkamp alle Info über diese Familie Olberding aus Steinfeld > mitgeteilt haben aber nicht unbedingt diese Person. Wer kann dieser > Geburt oder Taufe bestätigen? Ihre Eltern seien Heinrich und Catharina. > Nachdem wir obiger Geburt bestätigt haben, werden wir die Steinfelder KB > durch die LDS Kirche leihen. Besten Dank im Voraus für irgendwelche > Hilfe oder Info. > Bob Behnen > Kirksville, Missouri, USA > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/04 14:05:07
From: Robert Behnen <the.behnen.family(a)sbcglobal.net>
Werner, Thanks so much. I have passed on your kind reply to Lysle Meyer who is working on this family. Maria Magdalena Olberding was married to John Anthony Meyer who was born in Cincinnatti, Ohio. I have encouraged her to contact you regarding his parents who are John Meyer and Mary Bergman as I believe it is highly likely that they too are from Steinfeld. All my best, Bob Behnen oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:47:32 +0200 From: Werner Honkomp Subject: Re: [OL] Olberding Family - Parish of Steinfeld To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Message-ID: <37qsrmtVFYqLpjdI9B4ydA2trGOxKhEmA6CQP9JX3we(a)akmail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Bob, you are right. Here the records of Kirchspiel/parish Steinfeld (Oldenburg): * 18.Jun.1854 Maria Magdalena Olberding (no marriage to Meyer) parents: - Johann Heinrich Olberding, farm owner oo 25.Oct.1848 to Maria Agnes Meyer (widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer) + 04.Mar.1858 I hope it hepls, Werner Honkomp
Date: 2008/04/04 15:43:31
From: Doug Westerhaus <dwesterhaus(a)everestkc.net>
My records reflect the following: My Great-grandfather, Bernard Hinrich Westerhaus (11 JUN 1844 Neuenkirchen - 11 JUL 1933 Burns, KS) was married to Caroline Olberding (25 DEC 1850 Steinfeld - 20 JUN 1925 Burns, KS), the daughter of Joseph John Henry Olberding (10 SEP 1824 Steinfeld - 23 NOV 1908 Burns, KS) and Maria Agnes Meyer 24 OCT 1807 Oldenburg - 04 MAR 1858 Oldenburg). I also do not have specific information about where she was born or died. I have her parents as Carl Joseph Meyer (12 Aug 1777 Steinfeld - 03 DEC 1826 Steinfeld) and Maria Elisabeth Kramer (07 Oct 1778 Steinfeld - 24 Jan 1827). I do not have in my record a Maria Magdalena (Olberding) Meyer who was born on June 18, 1854 to Joseph John Henry Olberding and Maria Agnes Meyer; and, I do not have Maria Agnes Meyer as being the widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer. Rather, I have Joseph John Henry Olberding as being married twice - first to Maria Agnes Meyer; and, after her death, to Catherina J. Kramer (16 Feb 1834 - 21 Feb 1908). Of course, the other reference to Kramer is through the maternal bloodline of Maria Agnes Meyer. It appears that Werner Honkomp's information relates to my great-great grandfather Olberding, so I am VERY interested in resolving these differences and in connecting with Bob Behnen to share Olberding information! Most of my help concerning OLBERDING in Germany has come from Marlies Vagedes, whose mother was an Olberding. Marlies has helped me extensively with genealogy of the Olberdings of Steinfeld, and has been a marvelous help to me and to many others. THANK YOU MARLIES! Marlies can be reached at marlies(a)vagedes.net I welcome help with this history! Also, I am quite willing to share my electronic file with anyone interested. I use Family Treemaker software, but can either send pdf files or convert to GEDCOM using that software. Doug Westerhaus Overland Park, KS -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:00 AM To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Today's Topics: 1. Olberding Family - Parish of Steinfeld (Robert Behnen) 2. Re: Olberding Family - Parish of Steinfeld (Werner Honkomp)
Date: 2008/04/04 19:15:40
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Bob, maybe this the marriage record: Hermann Henrich Meyer oo 05.May.1807 in Steinfeld - Maria Agnes Bergmann Regards, Werner Honkomp > Werner, > Thanks so much. I have passed on your kind reply to Lysle Meyer who > is working on this family. Maria Magdalena Olberding was married to > John Anthony Meyer who was born in Cincinnatti, Ohio. > I have encouraged her to contact you regarding his parents who are > John Meyer and Mary Bergman as I believe it is highly likely that > they too are from Steinfeld. > All my best, > Bob Behnen
Date: 2008/04/04 19:15:40
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Doug and Bob,
I sorted your records a bit to better understand.
- Maria Agnes Meyer is born 27.Oct.1807 in Steinfeld, died 04.Mar.1858 in Steinfeld
her husband Johann Henrich Olberding was on this time farm owner
My records reflect the following: My Great-grandfather,
- Bernard Hinrich Westerhaus (11 JUN 1844 Neuenkirchen - 11 JUL 1933 Burns, KS)
was married to
- Caroline Olberding (25 DEC 1850 Steinfeld - 20 JUN 1925 Burns, KS),
the daughter of
Joseph John Henry Olberding (10 SEP 1824 Steinfeld - 23 NOV 1908 Burns, KS)
and Maria Agnes Meyer 24 OCT 1807 Oldenburg - 04 MAR 1858 Oldenburg).
I also do not have specific information about where she was born or died.
I have her parents as
- Carl Joseph Meyer (12 Aug 1777 Steinfeld - 03 DEC 1826 Steinfeld) - owner
and (oo 03.Nov.1802) Maria Elisabeth Kramer (07 Oct 1778 Steinfeld - 24 Jan 1827 STEINFELD).
I do not have in my record a
- Maria Magdalena (Olberding) Meyer who was born on June 18, 1854
to Joseph John Henry Olberding and Maria Agnes Meyer;
and,I do not have Maria Agnes Meyer as being the widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer.
Rather, I have
- Joseph John Henry Olberding as being married twice
- first to Maria Agnes Meyer; and, after her death,
to Catherina J. Kramer (16 Feb 1834 - 21 Feb 1908).
>>> I'm suspect, I have only this marriage record, no second:
- Johann Heinrich Olberding, farm owner (no Joseph)
oo 25.Oct.1848 to Maria Agnes Meyer (widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer + 07.Mar.1844) + 04.Mar.1858
children only:
*25.Dec.1850 Carolina
*18.Jun.1854 Maria Magdalena
Regards,
Werner Honkomp
Date: 2008/04/04 20:55:53
From: APUND <APUND(a)aol.com>
In a message dated 04/04/2008 6:06:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Werner
Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> writes:
>Here the records of Kirchspiel/parish Steinfeld (Oldenburg):
>* 18.Jun.1854 Maria Magdalena Olberding (no marriage to Meyer)
>parents:
>- Johann Heinrich Olberding, farm owner
> oo 25.Oct.1848 to Maria Agnes Meyer (widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer) +
04.Mar.1858
Robert,
You might also want to check for the records of Henrick Arnd Kramer, who
lived from 17 Nov 1811 to 7 March 1844. He married a Maria Agnes Meyer. They
had at least one child, Franz, born 1842.
This Henrick Kramer had a sister who married a Carl Joseph Olberding, too.
This information was given to me so I have no idea of its accuracy. Nor do I
know that it is the same people you are looking for. But it's worth checking
if you want to find all of Maria Agnes's children.
Nancy Pundsack
Date: 2008/04/04 22:02:22
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Robert and Nancy, here some details: Henrich Arnd Kramer 1. oo 09.May.1833 in Steinfeld to Maria Agnes Grever/Grefer/Gräfer children: *16.Feb.1834 Catharina Josephia *15.Apr.1837 Herman Henrich *13.Jan.1839 Maria Agnes 2. oo 25.May.1841 in Steinfeld to Maria Agnes Meyer children: *20.Mar.1842 Franz Regards, Werner Honkomp > In a message dated 04/04/2008 6:06:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Werner > Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> writes: > >Here the records of Kirchspiel/parish Steinfeld (Oldenburg): >>* 18.Jun.1854 Maria Magdalena Olberding (no marriage to Meyer) >>parents: >>- Johann Heinrich Olberding, farm owner >> oo 25.Oct.1848 to Maria Agnes Meyer (widow of Henrich Arnd Kramer) + > 04.Mar.1858 > Robert, > You might also want to check for the records of Henrick Arnd Kramer, who > lived from 17 Nov 1811 to 7 March 1844. He married a Maria Agnes Meyer. > They > had at least one child, Franz, born 1842. > This Henrick Kramer had a sister who married a Carl Joseph Olberding, > too. > This information was given to me so I have no idea of its accuracy. Nor > do I > know that it is the same people you are looking for. But it's worth > checking > if you want to find all of Maria Agnes's children. > Nancy Pundsack > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/04 22:55:09
From: RICHARD L SCHINDALL <Dickjeannette(a)msn.com>
Hello,
Recently I posted a message asking for any information on the Meinen & Hoeffers Families in Halsbeck & Westerstede Parishes in the 1800- 1860 era.
I received one reply and was referred to a person that worked at the Ev-luth Church in Westerstede. After contacting that person via e-mail I was told that the charges to look into the church records for the names, birth dates ,marriage dates, deaths and parents names would cost 35 Euro per hour and an average estimate of 350 Euro to complete. I see daily e-mails going back and forth on family information searches, are these being supplied at this exhorborante rate? Please advise.
Respectfully,
Richard L. Schindall
Bettendorf, Iowa
Date: 2008/04/04 23:20:54
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Hello,
Recently I posted a message asking for any information on the Meinen & Hoeffers Families in Halsbeck & Westerstede Parishes in the 1800- 1860 era. I received one reply and was referred to a person that worked at the Ev-luth Church in Westerstede. After contacting that person via e-mail I was told that the charges to look into the church records for the names, birth dates ,marriage dates, deaths and parents names would cost 35 Euro per hour and an average estimate of 350 Euro to complete. I see daily e-mails going back and forth on family information searches, are these being supplied at this exhorborante rate? Please advise.
Respectfully, Richard L. Schindall
Bettendorf, Iowa
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Date: 2008/04/05 00:27:24
From: M. Joseph Tiemann <mjtiema(a)cox.net>
Date: 2008/04/05 03:22:47
From: RICHARD L SCHINDALL <Dickjeannette(a)msn.com>
Annette,
Thanks for your reply. When you furnish them the name, date of birth, Marriage date, and parish and the person works for the church in the parish
involved. 35 Euro or $55.00 US dollars is an exhorborante rate,sorry. Either they're dyslectic or just wear a mask............................R.L. Schindall
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From: Annette Sweetman<mailto:bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Question on Charges For FamilyInformation....................
My 2 cents is... I looked at a German church record from 1690 to 1850
(at the family history center) and it had so many entries, difficult to
decipher words, and so many people with the same first names and
surnames that it easily took me 20+ hours to review it all. And the
review was not easy on the back or eyes - I would think 35 Euro/hr is
appropriate. The lucky info received over this mailing list is really
from kind hearted people with handy resources!
Annette
RICHARD L SCHINDALL wrote:
> Hello,
> Recently I posted a message asking for any information on the Meinen & Hoeffers Families in Halsbeck & Westerstede Parishes in the 1800- 1860 era.
> I received one reply and was referred to a person that worked at the Ev-luth Church in Westerstede. After contacting that person via e-mail I was told that the charges to look into the church records for the names, birth dates ,marriage dates, deaths and parents names would cost 35 Euro per hour and an average estimate of 350 Euro to complete. I see daily e-mails going back and forth on family information searches, are these being supplied at this exhorborante rate? Please advise.
> Respectfully,
> Richard L. Schindall
> Bettendorf, Iowa
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Date: 2008/04/05 03:41:51
From: David Harfst <genealogy(a)harfstfamily.org>
Annette, Thanks for your reply. When you furnish them the name, date of birth, Marriage date, and parish and the person works for the church in the parish
involved. 35 Euro or $55.00 US dollars is an exhorborante rate,sorry. Either they're dyslectic or just wear a mask............................R.L. Schindall
Date: 2008/04/05 03:50:48
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There is so much information available within the genealogy community. I hope we can still help one another without paying. I would be willing to share anything I have. Judy **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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Date: 2008/04/05 04:04:35
From: David Harfst <genealogy(a)harfstfamily.org>
There is so much information available within the genealogy community. I hope we can still help one another without paying. I would be willing to share anything I have. Judy
Date: 2008/04/05 04:19:17
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Perhaps this will give some perspective. I once hired a professional genealogy company in the US. They had very convincing ads, published articles in genealogy magazines and apparently had good credentials. I gave them a considerable amount of information up front and asked them to pursue things in Germanynot to go there; just write letters in German to the appropriate offices, etc., since my German is so limited. They reshuffled the information I gave them, added some census records that I already had but which were beside the point, and told me they had written the German letters, but there were no copies included in their report. The final report was the most elegant example of saying nothing I've ever seen. My bill? over $600! On the other hand, there's a woman who researches the records in a church in Oldenburg who some years ago sent me several generations of one of my ancestral lines. She asked only that I send what I thought was right. I sent her $300 and considered it a great bargain. Since then, I've hired other research in Germany and have always considered it to be a good value. When I spend money on genealogy, I always say, "Well, I don't have any other vices." :-) Marilyn > Richard, > > That's probably on par with what I paid for similar research a while > back, but that included some travel expenses as well. Consider the > number of requests that they probably get. It's not like a 150 or 200 > year old church here in the States. There's a lot more records to go > through, there older and therefore harder to read, and there's so much > more history there that the requests from descendants who're spread all > over the world by now are probably endless. > > Also consider the cost and difficulty for you to go to Germany and do > the research yourself. That's what finally convinced me to go ahead and > pay for it after about 9 or 10 months of contemplating. > > Just my 2 cents. > > RICHARD L SCHINDALL wrote: >> Annette, >> Thanks for your reply. When you furnish them the name, date >> of birth, Marriage date, and parish and the person works for >> the church in the parish >> involved. 35 Euro or $55.00 US dollars is an exhorborante rate,sorry. >> Either they're dyslectic or just wear a >> mask............................R.L. Schindall > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2008/04/05 04:47:16
From: Robert Behnen <the.behnen.family(a)sbcglobal.net>
Fellow researchers, I just wanted to say thank you to everone for all the wonderful responses both here in the list and off the list which I have passed on to my friend. Thanks ever so much, Bob Behnen Kirksville, MO
Date: 2008/04/05 04:48:55
From: RICHARD L SCHINDALL <Dickjeannette(a)msn.com>
Hi Marilyn,
I believe we've talked before. I too last year had retained a genealogist in Oldenburg Germany. She charged 15 Euro per hour plus travel expenses. I could only furnish her with a name and date of birth and both parents names and the place of Oldenburg Germany as my wife's Grandfather came to America as a youth of 17 alone, the only one of his family to come. The surname was Janssen and we found out that Oldenburg was a region and a large city as well. She found the families in church records in Bockhorn ,Grabstede, Halsbeck & Westerstede Parishes as well as living cousins. Her bill was 7 hrs research time or 106 Euro and 30 Euro Travel and 14.50 Euro for copies and postage. The total came to 151 Euro and she had very limited info with travel to the parishes. This person now works for the Westerstede church has the names birth dates marriage dates provided and is asking this amount of money. Unbelieveable !!! I can't recall how much genealogical information I've furnished free for persons in Sweden & Germany free gratis...........Dick
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From: mstulken(a)wi.net<mailto:mstulken(a)wi.net>
To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Question on Charges ForFamilyInformation....................
Perhaps this will give some perspective. I once hired a professional
genealogy company in the US. They had very convincing ads, published
articles in genealogy magazines and apparently had good credentials. I
gave them a considerable amount of information up front and asked them to
pursue things in Germany-not to go there; just write letters in German to
the appropriate offices, etc., since my German is so limited. They
reshuffled the information I gave them, added some census records that I
already had but which were beside the point, and told me they had written
the German letters, but there were no copies included in their report.
The final report was the most elegant example of saying nothing I've ever
seen. My bill? over $600!
On the other hand, there's a woman who researches the records in a church
in Oldenburg who some years ago sent me several generations of one of my
ancestral lines. She asked only that I send what I thought was right. I
sent her $300 and considered it a great bargain.
Since then, I've hired other research in Germany and have always
considered it to be a good value.
When I spend money on genealogy, I always say, "Well, I don't have any
other vices." :-)
Marilyn
> Richard,
>
> That's probably on par with what I paid for similar research a while
> back, but that included some travel expenses as well. Consider the
> number of requests that they probably get. It's not like a 150 or 200
> year old church here in the States. There's a lot more records to go
> through, there older and therefore harder to read, and there's so much
> more history there that the requests from descendants who're spread all
> over the world by now are probably endless.
>
> Also consider the cost and difficulty for you to go to Germany and do
> the research yourself. That's what finally convinced me to go ahead and
> pay for it after about 9 or 10 months of contemplating.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> RICHARD L SCHINDALL wrote:
>> Annette,
>> Thanks for your reply. When you furnish them the name, date
>> of birth, Marriage date, and parish and the person works for
>> the church in the parish
>> involved. 35 Euro or $55.00 US dollars is an exhorborante rate,sorry.
>> Either they're dyslectic or just wear a
>> mask............................R.L. Schindall
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Date: 2008/04/05 05:38:17
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
I know. It sounds like the woman who did your work for you was a true professional. I'd have to say that the one bad experience I had is far out-weighed by the good honest professionals and the people who help out simply because they like to do so. Marilyn > Hi Marilyn, > I believe we've talked before. I too last year had retained > a genealogist in Oldenburg Germany. She charged 15 Euro per > hour plus travel expenses. I could only furnish her with a > name and date of birth and both parents names and the place > of Oldenburg Germany as my wife's Grandfather came to > America as a youth of 17 alone, the only one of his family > to come. The surname was Janssen and we found out that > Oldenburg was a region and a large city as well. She found > the families in church records in Bockhorn ,Grabstede, > Halsbeck & Westerstede Parishes as well as living cousins. > Her bill was 7 hrs research time or 106 Euro and 30 Euro > Travel and 14.50 Euro for copies and postage. The total > came to 151 Euro and she had very limited info with travel > to the parishes. This person now works for the Westerstede > church has the names birth dates marriage dates provided > and is asking this amount of money. Unbelieveable !!! I > can't recall how much genealogical information I'v > e furnished free for persons in Sweden & Germany free > gratis...........Dick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mstulken(a)wi.net<mailto:mstulken(a)wi.net> > To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [OL] Question on Charges > ForFamilyInformation.................... > > > Perhaps this will give some perspective. I once hired a professional > genealogy company in the US. They had very convincing ads, published > articles in genealogy magazines and apparently had good credentials. I > gave them a considerable amount of information up front and asked them > to > pursue things in Germany-not to go there; just write letters in German > to > the appropriate offices, etc., since my German is so limited. They > reshuffled the information I gave them, added some census records that I > already had but which were beside the point, and told me they had > written > the German letters, but there were no copies included in their report. > The final report was the most elegant example of saying nothing I've > ever > seen. My bill? over $600! > > On the other hand, there's a woman who researches the records in a > church > in Oldenburg who some years ago sent me several generations of one of my > ancestral lines. She asked only that I send what I thought was right. > I > sent her $300 and considered it a great bargain. > > Since then, I've hired other research in Germany and have always > considered it to be a good value. > > When I spend money on genealogy, I always say, "Well, I don't have any > other vices." :-) > > Marilyn > > > > Richard, > > > > That's probably on par with what I paid for similar research a while > > back, but that included some travel expenses as well. Consider the > > number of requests that they probably get. It's not like a 150 or 200 > > year old church here in the States. There's a lot more records to go > > through, there older and therefore harder to read, and there's so much > > more history there that the requests from descendants who're spread > all > > over the world by now are probably endless. > > > > Also consider the cost and difficulty for you to go to Germany and do > > the research yourself. That's what finally convinced me to go ahead > and > > pay for it after about 9 or 10 months of contemplating. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > RICHARD L SCHINDALL wrote: > >> Annette, > >> Thanks for your reply. When you furnish them the name, > date > >> of birth, Marriage date, and parish and the person works for > >> the church in the parish > >> involved. 35 Euro or $55.00 US dollars is an exhorborante rate,sorry. > >> Either they're dyslectic or just wear a > >> mask............................R.L. Schindall > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l> > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l> > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2008/04/05 07:48:51
From: peterkueppers <peterkueppers(a)online.de>
Guten Morgen Herbert, natürlich kannst du die Lampen auch schicken, kein Problem. Meine Adresse ist: Peter Küppers Brägeler Pickerweg 24 49393 Lohne Wenn du mir deine Kontoverbindung zukommen läßt, überweise ich dir das Geld. Ist ja Prima das daß Treffen so lange geht, da werden wir dann bestimmt einen oder zwei Tage Zeit finden. Gruß Peter
Date: 2008/04/05 11:15:52
From: Heike Rasch <heike_rasch(a)t-online.de>
Hallo ,
ich suche Informationen zu Friedrich Heinrich Adolf Hasselhorn geb. 20 9.1864 in Wunderburg/ Osternburg
seine Eltern sind Friedrich Hinrich Gerhard Hasselhorn
Wirt in Oldenburg
und seiner Frau
Gesche Margarete geb. Wessels
Adolf Hasselhorn ist 1888 in die USA ausgewandert, ( Chicago, Illinois)
hat dort ein Haus gebaut und einen Laden betrieben.
Laut Passagierlisten ist Fredericka Behrens (genannt Frieda, sie lebte wahrscheinlich auch in Osternburg) am 22.11.1892 Adolf Hasselhorn gefolgt.
Sie haben dann in Chicago geheiratet (Datum ist mir nicht bekannt).
Sie haben einen gemeinsamen Sohn Walter Charles Hasselhorn er wurde am 21.9.1900 geboren.
1903 verstarb Adolf Hasselhorn und Frieda Behrens/Hasselhorn kam mit ihrem Sohn 1904 zurück nach Oldenburg/Osternburg.
Ich denke sie werden bei der Behrens Fam. gelebt haben. Laut Passagierliste sind sie dann 1909 zurück nach Chicago gegangen.
Wenn mir jemand mehr Informationen über die Hasselhorn/ Behrens Familie geben kann, wäre ich sehr dankbar.
Für die Bemühungen herzlichen Dank.
mfg.
Heike Rasch Hasselhorn
Date: 2008/04/06 08:35:19
From: Karl Wesling <kwesling(a)gmx.de>
Gruß aus Bremen Karl (Wesling) http://www.kwesling.de
>Christoph D. Dieckhoff was born on Nov. 2, 1848. He died >in Decatur, IL on Dec. 2, 1923. He was raised Catholic.
>We are interested in: Who his parents were? Did he have any >brothers and sisters? Where the family lived in Germany?
>Thank you for your efforts. >Terry A. Dieckhoff
Bitte Antwort an: tpdieckhoff <tpdieckhoff(a)ameritech.net> CC: Karl Wesling <kwesling(a)gmx.de>
Date: 2008/04/06 17:53:36
From: Womartens <Womartens(a)aol.com>
Liebe Mitglieder und Listenteilnehmer, am Sonnabend, dem 12. April 2008, findet um 16.00 Uhr der nächste Vortrag der Oldenburgischen Gesellschaft für Familienkunde e.V. im Vortragsraum des Staatsarchivs Oldenburg (26135 Oldbg., Damm 43) statt. Parkplätze sind hinter dem Gebäude und an der Kanalstrasse vorhanden, der Eintritt ist frei. Referent ist Dr. Eckkehard Seeber (Oldenburg) und das Thema lautet: "Verfassungen oldenburgischer Bauerschaften - Ländliche Rechtsquellen von 1580 bis 1814" (mit Lichtbildern): Die ersten Aufzeichnungen der Rechte der Bauerschaften in der Grafschaft Oldenburg, sich selbst zu organisieren und zu verfassen, stammen vom Ende des 16. Jahrhunderts. Von 1580 bis 1785 sind insgesamt 92 Verfassungs-Urkunden, meistens Bauerbriefe, Bauerrechte oder Bauerordnungen genannt, bekannt geworden. Einige blieben Entwürfe und dokumentieren den vergeblichen Versuch einer Bauerschaft, eigene Rechte gegen die unmittelbare Obrigkeit, den Vogt oder Amtmann der jeweiligen Vogtei, neu durchzusetzen oder zu behaupten. Diese ländlichen Rechtsquellen regeln die Organisation der gemeinschaftlichen Arbeiten und des Lebens, von der Beerdigung, Krankheit und Feuer im Dorf bis zur Schlichtung und Bestrafung von Streitfällen und Diebstählen, einschließlich der Verhandlung auf dem „Bauer-Stuhl“, der Versammlung aller Mitglieder einer Bauerschaft, die auch das „Bauer-Gericht“ abhält. Sie kennzeichnen auch, besonders ab Beginn des 18. Jahrhunderts, den genossenschaftlichen Zwang gegenüber den Rechten des Einzelnen. Diese Bauerschafts-Verfassungen waren in der Grafschaft Oldenburg bis zu ihrer Aufhebung 1814 sehr unterschiedlich inhaltlich ausgestaltet und örtlich verbreitet. Bei allen Vorträgen können Sie auch die aktuellen Veröffentlichungen der "Oldenburgischen Familienkunde", die Publikationen der "Gelben Reihe", "Oldenburgische Ortsfamilienbücher auf CD-ROM" und "Quellen und Forschungen zur oldenburgischen Familienkunde auf CD/DVD-ROM" erwerben. Sämtliche lieferbaren Publikationen können Sie auch über den Online-Shop bestellen. Mit freundlichen Grüssen Wolfgang Martens www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de
Date: 2008/04/07 13:29:24
From: les alderton <lalderton1(a)bigpond.com>
I am searching for any information about Charles Augustus Rosenow and his wife Maria Josephine (formerly Von Promentier? He was an Equery. Born early 19th century. His son Charles Frederick Rosenow came to Australia in the 1850s. Any information at all would be most appreciated. Jenny
Date: 2008/04/09 18:22:51
From: Hildegard Brümmer <h_br(a)gmx.de>
Hallo, ich bräuchte Hilfe. Ich fand folgenden Text: "Zu den Drangsalen kamen Teuerung und ansteckende Krankheiten. 1580 mussten die Bewohner unter einer Hungersnot leiden, wie sie bislang unbekannt gewesen war. Dabei wütete eine ansteckende Krankheit, der "Bremer Piep"., der viele Menschen hinwegraffte." Wer weiß etwas zu dieser Krankheit. Danke vorab Hildegard br. ********************* http://lostbooks.chikano.net *********************
Date: 2008/04/10 08:02:34
From: Gabriele Niehaus <g.niehaus(a)gmx.de>
Hallo, bei "Bremer Pip" handelt es sich wahrscheimlich um eine Grippepandemie. Nachzulesen unter http://www.dradio.de/dlf/sendungen/studiozeit-ks/742996/ 21.02.2008 "Die Geschichte der Grippe" Eine historische Untersuchung an der Universität Saarbrücken mfg Gabriele Niehaus -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:22:17 +0200 > Von: "Hildegard Brümmer" <h_br(a)gmx.de> > An: ogf-l(a)genealogy.net, oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net, compgend-l(a)genealogy.net > Betreff: [OL] Bremer Piep > Hallo, > > > ich bräuchte Hilfe. > > > > > Ich fand folgenden Text: > > > > "Zu den Drangsalen kamen Teuerung und ansteckende Krankheiten. 1580 > mussten > die Bewohner unter einer Hungersnot leiden, wie sie > > bislang unbekannt gewesen war. Dabei wütete eine ansteckende Krankheit, > der > "Bremer Piep"., der viele Menschen > > hinwegraffte." > > > > Wer weiß etwas zu dieser Krankheit. > > Danke vorab > Hildegard br. > ********************* > http://lostbooks.chikano.net > ********************* > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/10 13:20:39
From: Josef Mählmann <tenstedt(a)gmx.de>
Liebe Listis zufällig habe ich den 2. Band der Lehnbücher von Münster 1379-1450 von Hugo Kemkes in der Buchhandlung entdeckt. Er ist scheinbar Ende letzten Jahes herausgekommen und kostet hier 69 € ISBN 978-3-402-15301-7 Bitte nicht als Werbung verstehen sondern einfach für Interessierte -- Dr. Josef Mählmann
Date: 2008/04/10 14:44:54
From: Hildegard Brümmer <h_br(a)gmx.de>
Herzlichen Dank für die schnelle Hilfe in Sachen "Bremer Piep". Einen schönen Tag Danke Hildegard Brümmer ***************** Weitere Korrespondenz unter: h_br(a)gmx.de *****************
Date: 2008/04/12 00:32:35
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
This is sort of a needle-in-the-haystack, but here goes: The Wiefelstede CD has a sister and brother born in Wiefelstede and died in USA: Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee MUELLER born 29 Sep 1866 in Wiefelstede, died in USA Carl Hinrich MUELLER born 17 Aug 1872 in Wiefelstede; died in USA Without more information, I can't do a search on Ancestry. Does anyone know anything about these two? Thanks. Marilyn
Date: 2008/04/12 20:58:21
From: RICHARD L SCHINDALL <Dickjeannette(a)msn.com>
Hello,
I'm researching Johann Didrich Janßen born 1845 in Westerstede Oldenburg and wife Anna Gerdes Janßen born 1846 in Oldenburg and family that emigrated to Burlington Iowa in 1904. I know they were of the Ev-luth faith. Any information on their ancestors would be greatly appreciated.
Kindest Regards,
Richard L. Schindall
Date: 2008/04/12 21:08:16
From: George Poch <gapoch(a)hotmail.com>
I typed in the Minnesota Historical Society and linked to their Death Certificate Index and found 31 entries regarding Carl Muller. It may be possible that one of these persons could fit what you are looking for. In places they do give date of birth along with the death date. I don't know if this will help you, but thought that I would make this suggestion. George ---------------------------------------- > From: oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net > Subject: Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12 > To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:00:12 +0200 > > Send Oldenburg-L mailing list submissions to > oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oldenburg-l-owner(a)genealogy.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Oldenburg-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Carl Hinrich MUELLER in USA? Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee > MUELLER in USA? (mstulken(a)wi.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:33:10 -0500 (CDT) > From: mstulken(a)wi.net > Subject: [OL] Carl Hinrich MUELLER in USA? Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee > MUELLER in USA? > To: "Oldenburg-L" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > This is sort of a needle-in-the-haystack, but here goes: > > The Wiefelstede CD has a sister and brother born in Wiefelstede and died > in USA: > > Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee MUELLER born 29 Sep 1866 in Wiefelstede, died in USA > Carl Hinrich MUELLER born 17 Aug 1872 in Wiefelstede; died in USA > > Without more information, I can't do a search on Ancestry. > > Does anyone know anything about these two? > > Thanks. > Marilyn > > > > ------------------------------ > > ______________________________________________ > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > End of Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12 > ******************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008
Date: 2008/04/12 21:36:58
From: M.Ellguth <michaela.ellguth(a)arcor.de>
Liebe Listenmitglieder, zu meiner großen Freude bekam ich heute von Edith Heilberg geb. Prigge, das oben genannte Buch aus Südafrika, zugeschickt. Ich habe nun das Buch, dass mit dem Prigge-Wappen versehen ist und reich an historischen und neueren Fotos sowie Stammbäumen, als PDF, eingescannt (rund 21 MB). Es beginnt mit dem Missionar Heinrich Christoph Prigge. Bei Interesse bitte direkt eine Mail an mich. Bei dieser Gelegenheit möchte ich auch mal wieder auf meine HP hinweisen. Dank der unermüdlichen Fortführung und Korrekten durch Robert Inselmann, findet sich auf meiner HP bereits ein Update der Datenbank und wird in unregelmäßigen Abständen erweitert. Ein schönes Wochenende wünscht Michaela (Ellguth) http://www.ahnenforschung-ellguth.de/
Date: 2008/04/12 21:44:32
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Thanks, George! That looks like a brand-new siteand a good one! Marilyn > > I typed in the Minnesota Historical Society and linked to their Death > Certificate Index and found 31 entries regarding Carl Muller. It may be > possible that one of these persons could fit what you are looking for. In > places they do give date of birth along with the death date. I don't know > if this will help you, but thought that I would make this suggestion. > George > ---------------------------------------- >> From: oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net >> Subject: Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12 >> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net >> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:00:12 +0200 >> >> Send Oldenburg-L mailing list submissions to >> oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> oldenburg-l-owner(a)genealogy.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Oldenburg-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Carl Hinrich MUELLER in USA? Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee >> MUELLER in USA? (mstulken(a)wi.net) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:33:10 -0500 (CDT) >> From: mstulken(a)wi.net >> Subject: [OL] Carl Hinrich MUELLER in USA? Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee >> MUELLER in USA? >> To: "Oldenburg-L" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> This is sort of a needle-in-the-haystack, but here goes: >> >> The Wiefelstede CD has a sister and brother born in Wiefelstede and died >> in USA: >> >> Anne Wilhelmine Dorothee MUELLER born 29 Sep 1866 in Wiefelstede, died >> in USA >> Carl Hinrich MUELLER born 17 Aug 1872 in Wiefelstede; died in USA >> >> Without more information, I can't do a search on Ancestry. >> >> Does anyone know anything about these two? >> >> Thanks. >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Oldenburg-L mailing list >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> >> >> End of Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 53, Issue 12 >> ******************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008 > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2008/04/15 12:55:02
From: Uwe G. Pommerening <ugpommerening(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Liste, Bei der Forschung zu POMMERENING finde ich vor 1700 keine Personen, jedoch Massen von POMMERENKE. Hat jemand einen bestätigten Eintrag wann oder ob der Name POMMERENKE in POMMERENING umgewandelt wurde. Weitere POMs: POMERENKE, POMREHN, POMMERENCK, POMMERAINCKE. Die Namen tauchen in Vor- und Hinterpommern, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Brandenburg, Neu-Altmark, Danzig auf. Mfg Uwe G. Pommerening
Date: 2008/04/15 19:29:13
From: Uwe G. Pommerening <ugpommerening(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Ahnenforscher, hello genealogical researchers, bei meiner Recherche zu POMMERENING finde ich vor 1700 kaum Personen mit diesem Namen, jedoch Massen von POMMERENKE. Hat jemand einen bestätigten Eintrag wann oder ob der Name POMMERENKE in POMMERENING umgewandelt wurde. Weitere POMs: POMERENKE, POMREHN, POMMERENCK, POMMERAINCKE. Die Namen tauchen in Vor- und Hinterpommern, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Brandenburg, Neu-Altmark, Danzig auf. Nach dem 2. WK natürlich in allen anderen Bundesländern. not only due to the emigration procedures but already in good old Preussen I found the spelling of the name POMMERENING in the late 1700 and the name POMMERENKE before. Is there a chance that the name had changed to POMMERENING and can someone proof with documents when that happened? The POMs name appear in different spellings like POMREHN, POMERENCKE, POMMERANING in Pomerania (Vorpommern, Hinterpommern), Mecklenburg-(Schwerin), Brandenburg, Neumark, Altmark, Danzig. After WW2 you find these all over Germany. Mfg, rgds Uwe G. Pommerening
Date: 2008/04/15 19:35:09
From: Uwe G. Pommerening <ugpommerening(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Ahnenforscher, hello genealogical researchers, bei meiner Recherche zu POMMERENING finde ich vor 1700 kaum Personen mit diesem Namen, jedoch Massen von POMMERENKE. Hat jemand einen bestätigten Eintrag wann oder ob der Name POMMERENKE in POMMERENING umgewandelt wurde. Weitere POMs: POMERENKE, POMREHN, POMMERENCK, POMMERAINCKE. Die Namen tauchen in Vor- und Hinterpommern, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Brandenburg, Neu-Altmark, Danzig auf. Nach dem 2. WK natürlich in allen anderen Bundesländern. not only due to the emigration procedures but already in good old Preussen I found the spelling of the name POMMERENING in the late 1700 and the name POMMERENKE before. Is there a chance that the name had changed to POMMERENING and can someone proof with documents when that happened? The POMs name appear in different spellings like POMREHN, POMERENCKE, POMMERANING in Pomerania (Vorpommern, Hinterpommern), Mecklenburg-(Schwerin), Brandenburg, Neumark, Altmark, Danzig. After WW2 you find these all over Germany. Mfg, rgds Uwe G. Pommerening
Date: 2008/04/16 14:17:44
From: pjc203 <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com>
Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in German? Any information would be greatly appreciated Paula Calhoun
Date: 2008/04/16 16:45:02
From: wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de>
Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in German? Any information would be greatly appreciated
Paula Calhoun
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Date: 2008/04/16 17:36:19
From: Jan & John King <scooter(a)cruzio.com>
Jo -
Have you received any more information from regarding your visit to
Oldenburg? You can email me directly at scooter(a)cruzio.com
Jan King
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Subject: Re: [OL] Genealogy trip to Oldenburg
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Hallo Josie,
you can find a lot of informations at the homepage of
"Heimatbund f?r das Oldenburger M?nsterland" :
[1]www.heimatbund-om.de .
There is a link. "English Collection" with pages in English.
Wish you nice days at Easter (?)
Christina Lamping
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Subject: [OL] Genealogy trip to Oldenburg
From: Josiebanks(a)aol.com
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Hallo list,
My sister and I are going to Oldenburg in September. We want to
visit
the places where my LAMPING, BUSSINCK, OLDEHUSS, KELLER, and
BERKEMEYER
families lived. We will go to Langf?rden, Bomhof, Emstek, Deindrup,
and Dinklage.
We would like to see St. Laurentius Catholic Church and cemetery
in
Langf?rden and St. Catharina in Dinklage. Are these Churches open on
Saturdays?
Could anyone please give us an address for St. Laurentius? Would
the
Archives in Vechta be open then also?
Thank you for any help or suggestions you could give us for our
trip.
Jo Westendorf Banks
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Date: 2008/04/16 17:39:52
From: pjc203 <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com>
Werner, Thanks so much for that information. That helps me quite a bit. My grandmother always said the names were not from the same family. That gives me more people from this area to add. Paula Calhoun ---- wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de> wrote: > Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong > to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, > Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com> > To: "Oldenburg-l Genealogy" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: [OL] Withorn > > > > Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of > > Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or > > Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in > > German? Any information would be greatly appreciated > > Paula Calhoun > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/16 21:44:30
From: pjc203 <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com>
Hello Werner, Does the name Withorn mean anything in German. I know some of the family names have meanings, but I've never been able to find the name Withorn or any history of the name. Paula Calhoun ---- wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de> wrote: > Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong > to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, > Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com> > To: "Oldenburg-l Genealogy" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: [OL] Withorn > > > > Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of > > Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or > > Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in > > German? Any information would be greatly appreciated > > Paula Calhoun > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/16 23:06:19
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
Withorn does not appear in "German Names"by Hans Bahlow. However the following two names do appear. WITT - frequent lower German = weiß, weiße "white" for a white-haired, fair- haired person HORN -found in all areas of the German speaking world; mostly a field or place name, sometimes a house Therefore, a possible meaning for WITHORN could be WHITEHOUSE Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois a message dated 4/16/08 2:45:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pjc203(a)zoomtown.com writes: Hello Werner, Does the name Withorn mean anything in German. I know some of the family names have meanings, but I've never been able to find the name Withorn or any history of the name. Paula Calhoun ---- wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de> wrote: > Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong > to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, > Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com> > To: "Oldenburg-l Genealogy" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: [OL] Withorn > > > > Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of > > Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or > > Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in > > German? Any information would be greatly appreciated > > Paula Calhoun > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/16 23:39:20
From: pjc203 <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com>
Thank you very much Paula Calhoun (Withorn) Hamilton, Ohio ---- REPKINGRON(a)aol.com wrote: > > Withorn does not appear in "German Names"by Hans Bahlow. However the > following two names do appear. > > WITT - frequent lower German = weiß, weiße "white" for a white-haired, fair- > haired person > HORN -found in all areas of the German speaking world; mostly a field or > place name, sometimes a house > > Therefore, a possible meaning for WITHORN could be WHITEHOUSE > > > Ronald J Repking > Flossmoor, Illinois > > > a message dated 4/16/08 2:45:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > pjc203(a)zoomtown.com writes: > > Hello Werner, > Does the name Withorn mean anything in German. I know some of the family > names have meanings, but I've never been able to find the name Withorn or any > history of the name. > Paula Calhoun > > > > ---- wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de> wrote: > > Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong > > to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, > > Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com> > > To: "Oldenburg-l Genealogy" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:09 PM > > Subject: [OL] Withorn > > > > > > > Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of > > > Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or > > > > Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in > > > German? Any information would be greatly appreciated > > > Paula Calhoun > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/17 00:51:40
From: AirWilke <AirWilke(a)aol.com>
I am looking for the family history of Joseph Brinkmann, born June 2, 1855 in Oldenburg, Germany. I believe he may have been born in Lohne. His parents were Johann Clemens Brinkmann and Anna Margaretha Nobbe, both servants on the Queilenburg. His godparents were Joseph Bern Rebel and Maria Catherina Brinkmann. If anyone has any information about Joseph's birth city and his parents, I would greatly appreciate it. Sincerely Pat **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/17 01:50:30
From: BendW7 <BendW7(a)aol.com>
We are looking for information on Anna Maria Zerhusen (not sure of the spelling) who was born in March 1841 in Oldenburg. She married John Henry Wilke in 1865 - they came to the USA around 1891. Any information regarding her or her family would be appreciated. Thank you. Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/17 15:29:44
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
The following is the information for BRINKMAN as contained in the book "Lohner Familien" on page 386. The first entry corresponds with the names in your note. The write up for NOBBE follows the BRINKMAN information. The "Kirchspiel Lohne Alphabetisches Gesamtregister 1683-1811"by Friederich Steinkamp contains about one page of names of BRINKMAN and one of NOBBE. The pages are in jpg form and can not be attached to this note. If interested, contact me off line and I will send them to you. BRINKMAN Das Stammwort Brink bedeutet Rand eines Ortes. Derjenige, der sich am Ende eines Ortes ansiedelte, hieß Brinkmann oder Brinker. Der Lohner Brink hat jedoch zur Namenbildung keinen Anlaß gegeben. Die Lohner Familien Brinkmann sind von auswärts eingewandert. 1. Familie Brinkmann in Querlenburg Joh. Heinrich Brinkmann u. Anna Mar. Nobbe K. 1855 Josef 1857 Klemens 1861 Wilhelmine 1863 Maria 1866 Maria Dorothea 1867 Joh. Louise 2. Familie Brinkamann bei Urlage in Brockdorf Jos. Brinkmann u. Mar. Josef. Bernard. Hollinde K. 1885 Herm. Josef, gest. 1899 1887 Aug. Jos., kop. 1915 m- elis. Hempem, Kfm. i. Nordlohne K. 1916 Bern. Jos. 1918 Mar. Elis. 1920 Emma Elis. 1921 August 1923 Hubert Herm. Klem. 1925 Paul 1889 Elis., kop. m. Klem. Sandmann (s. S. 247), 1911 1890 Joh. Franziska, kop. 1915 m. Heinrich Heseding 1891 Heinrich, kop. 1924 m. Agnes Stuke Kfm. i. Brockdorf 1893 Rosa Kath., kop. 1922 m. Franz Blömer, Kfm. i. Lohne K. 1923 Franz 1924 Rosa 1925 Otto 1929 Elfriede 1895 Kath. Johanna, kop. 1921 m. Herm. Mönnig a. Langwege 1897 Joh. Bernardine 1898 Theresia Kath., kop. 1923 m. Franz Hövemann (s.d.) 1900 Elis., gest. 1905 1903 Joh. Kath., gest. 1918 3. Familien Brinkmann in Lohnerwiesen Heinrich Brinkmann, gest. 1898, a. Twistringen, kop. 1872 m. Elis. Meyer, gest. 1925, 74 ½ J., Zimmermann u. Neubauer K. 1872 Klem. Heinrich, gest. 1892 1874 Johanna 1878 Joh. Heinr., gest. 1878 1879 Franz Aug., kop. 1900 m. Mar. Elis. Kröger, i. Lohnerwiesen 1883 Mar. Friederike, kop. 1902 m. Wilh. Kamphaus 1885 Mar. Josef. Henriette, kop. 1908 m. Bern. H. Westendorf 1887 Bern. Heinrich, Schlosser, kop. 1908 m. Mar. Karol. Hilker K. 1889 Franz Heinrich 1900 Anna Mar. Josefa 1909 Mar. Franziska 1911 Rosa Elis. 1913 Hedwig, gest. 1915 1914 Joh. Bern. 1916 Franz Heinr. 1919 Jos. Eduard 1924 Cäcilia Josefa 1924 Wilhelmine Julia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- NOBBE was found on page 197. Your Anna Margaretha Nobbe is not there. Kötter in Brockdorf, früher eigenhörig an Gut Brettberg, jetzt Gottke-Haskamp. 1618 und 1663 Johann Nobbe. 1636 starben an der Pest Gerd Nobbe, seine Frau und seine Schwiegermutter. Diejenigen, welche die Verstorbenen in den Sarg gelegt hatten, erhielten dafür eine Kuh. Kötter Johann Nobbe und Genovefa (Gesina) Pulsfort, kopuliert 1687. Kinder 1701 Anna Marg., kopuliert 1727 mit Arnold Sütholt. Kötter Joh. Arnold Sütholt und Anna Marg. Nobbe. Kinder 1727 Johann Jodokus, kopuliert 1757 mit Kath. Brägelmann. Kinder 1760 Kath. Marg., kopuliert 1778 mit Joh. Heinrich kl. Kreymborg, a. d. Lefferding, siehe Seite 176. 1763 Mar. Elisabeth (gestorben 1829), kopuliert mit Gerd. Heinrich Trenkamp. 1766 Anna Kath. (gestorben 1826); 1769 Kath. Maria. 1771 Joh. Heinrich, kopuliert 1803 mit Agnes Kotmann aus Mühlen. 1774 Joh. Klemens, kopuliert 1811 mit Mar. Elisabeth Meyer in Brettberg (gestorben 1861). Kötter Heinrich Nobbe (gestorben 1809) und Agnes Kotmann (gestorben 1827), 2. Mann 1810 Bernard Urlage (gestorben 1841). Kinder 1804 Maria, kopuliert 1839 mit Anton Dullweber (siehe Vormoor), siehe Seite 103. 1806 Maria Agnes, kopuliert 1832 mit Gerhard Heinrich Grafe. 1808 Maria Gertrud; 1809 Joh. Heinrich (gestorben 1841, ledig). Kötter Gerhard Heinrich Grafe (gestorben 1860, 58 Jahre) und Maria Agnes Nobbe. Kinder 1835 Heinrich (gestorben 1899), kopuliert 1860 mit Elisabeth Kathmann aus Dinklage (gestorben 1886, 62 Jahre). Kinder 1861 Wilhelmine, kopuliert mit Klemens Meyer. Kötter Klemens Meyer und Wilhelmine Grafe (gestorben 1886). Kinder 1835 Franziska Dorothea, kopuliert 1904 mit Kötter Klemens Heinrich Morthorst in Bahlen. 1886 Wilhelmine, kopuliert 1909 mit Bernard Georg Gottke- Haskamp aus Holthausen bei Steinfeld. Kötter Bernard Georg Gottke-Haskamp und Wilhelmine Meyer, 2. Frau Sophia Meyer 1921. Kinder 1910 Elisabeth Josefine; 1914 Johanna; 1917 Bernard Josef; 1919 Hedwig; 1920 Maria; 1922 Emma. Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois In a message dated 4/16/08 5:52:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AirWilke(a)aol.com writes: I am looking for the family history of Joseph Brinkmann, born June 2, 1855 in Oldenburg, Germany. I believe he may have been born in Lohne. His parents were Johann Clemens Brinkmann and Anna Margaretha Nobbe, both servants on the Queilenburg. His godparents were Joseph Bern Rebel and Maria Catherina Brinkmann. If anyone has any information about Joseph's birth city and his parents, I would greatly appreciate it. Sincerely Pat **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/17 15:29:46
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
The following is the information for WILKE as contained in the book "Lohner Familien" on page 300. The ZERHUSEN Family write up contains several pages and might be too large for this note. I can send it to you off line with the jpg images of the pages for both families from the "Kirchspiel Lohne Alphabetisches Gesamtregister 1683-1811"by Friederich Steinkamp. The name Anna Maria Zerhusen does not appear with the WILKE Family. WILKE Kötter in Lohne, ursprünglich Beverborg. 1545 Hermann Beverborg; 1593 Wille ke Beverborg; 1660 Wilken Beverborg, früher hofhörig an die Landesherrschaft. Das Erbhaus (jetzt Geschäftsstelle des Konsum-Vereins) lag neben Kötter Kaiser (jetzt Beckmann). Kötter Heinrich Brägelmann und Kath. Pepersack. Kinder 1685 Bernard, kopuliert 1710 mit Marg. Aschern, siehe Seite 40. Kötter Bernard Wilke und Marg. Aschern, ohne Nachkommen. Kötter Joh. Bernard Brägelmann (gestorben 1794) und Kath. Elisabeth Beckmann (gestorben 1793). Kinder 1754 Bernard Heinrich; 1756 Anna Maria (gestorben 1802). 1761 Hermann Heinrich (gestorben 1829), kopuliert 1792 mit Mar. Elisabeth Fröhle (gestorben 1841, 70 ½ Jahre), siehe Seite 121. Kinder 1793 Bernard Heinrich, kopuliert 1821 mit Maria Anna Meyer aus Südlohne. 1794 Maria Kath. (gestorben 1828), kopuliert 1819 mit Joh. Heinrich Friedrich Hoyng auf dem Keet, siehe Seite 150. Kötter Bernard Heinrich Wilke (gestorben 1855) und Maria Anna Meyer (gestorben 1858, 56 ½ Jahre). Kinder 1823 Anton, kopuliert 1856 mit Maria Anna Pölking (siehe Zeller Gerding Seite 123 und Kötter Tinnemann Seite 280). 1825 Kath.; 1827 Bernard Heinrich. 1829 Franz, kopuliert 1858 mit Anna Kath. Dothmann, siehe II. 1833 Bernardine, kopuliert 1856 mit Franz Xaver Bornhorn in Lohnerwiesen, siehe Seite 61. 1836 Josefine, kopuliert 1862 mit Klemens Trenkamp bei Zeller Gerding. 1840 Heinrich, kopuliert 1871 mit Elisabeth Pölking, siehe III. 1844 Maria Karoline. II. Franz Wilke und Anna Kath. Dothmann (siehe Seite 102), Schuster und Wirt in Südlohne (siehe Nietfeld Seite 203). Kinder 1858 Maria, kopuliert 1882 mit Bäcker Anton Hoyng, siehe Seite 151. 1861 Bernardine, kopuliert 1886 mit August Südbeck, siehe Seite 273. 1863 Klemens, kopuliert 1896 mit Maria Bene (siehe kl. Fortmann), siehe Seite 117 und 48. 1866 Maria Antonia. III. Heinrich Wilke (gestorben 1891) und Elisabeth Pölking (gestorben 1910), Wirt auf dem Brink (Brinkerhof), siehe Seite 220. Kinder 1872 Bernardine, kopuliert 1893 mit Franz Josef Schlotmann in Lohne, siehe Seite 253. 1875 Franz Josef, kopuliert 1905 mit Bertha Hachmöller, Witwe Hohenhörst, Wirt in Lohne. 1876 Heinrich, kopuliert mit Maria Elisabeth Cosack, Korkfabrikant in Lohne. 1885 Mar. Kath. Elisabeth, kopuliert 1906 mit Franz Hermann Lameyer aus Vechta. Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois In a message dated 4/16/08 6:51:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, BendW7(a)aol.com writes: We are looking for information on Anna Maria Zerhusen (not sure of the spelling) who was born in March 1841 in Oldenburg. She married John Henry Wilke in 1865 - they came to the USA around 1891. Any information regarding her or her family would be appreciated. Thank you. Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/18 19:16:29
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Pat and Ronald,
here some more details:
Arnold/Gerd Bringkman, *~ 1666, + 08.Nov.1702 Steinfeld (~36)
oo 04.Jul.1700 Steinfeld - Anna Pille
Joan Otto Bringman, * 21.Nov.1702 Steinfeld, + 10.Mar.1770 Steinfeld (68)
oo 10.Oct.1724 Steinfeld - Anna Elisabeth Wilcking
Johan Henrich Arend Brinkmann(before Bringman), Kötter,
* 12.May.1727 in Steinfeld, + 24.Apr.1800 in Steinfeld (~83)
oo 26.Nov.1765 in Steinfeld - Anna Maria Nobbe
I hope it helps,
Werner Honkomp
> BRINKMAN
> Das Stammwort Brink bedeutet Rand eines Ortes. Derjenige, der sich am Ende
> eines Ortes ansiedelte,
> hieß Brinkmann oder Brinker. Der Lohner Brink hat jedoch zur Namenbildung
> keinen Anlaß gegeben.
> Die Lohner Familien Brinkmann sind von auswärts eingewandert.
> 1. Familie Brinkmann in Querlenburg
> Joh. Heinrich Brinkmann u. Anna Mar. Nobbe
> K. 1855 Josef
Date: 2008/04/18 20:03:12
From: Holger Wittkowski <holger-wittkowski(a)web.de>
Hallo, am 15.04.1878 heiratet in Ritterhude Heinrich Stadtlander aus Ritterhude Adelheid Nüstedt aus Neu-Bruchhausen (Kirchspiel Sudwalde) . Ich habe leider keine weiteren Daten von Adelheid. Vielleicht kann jemand helfen. Freundliche Grüße Holger Wittkowski
Date: 2008/04/18 20:08:40
From: Holger Wittkowski <holger-wittkowski(a)web.de>
Hallo, am 30.03.1832 heiratet in Ritterhude der Einwohner zu Leeste, Klaus Stadtlander geb. 24.05.1804 in Leeste? die Gesche Tietjen aus Ritterhude. Der Vater von Klaus ist Hinrich Stadtlander und die Mutter Metje Boetjer. Ich suche Informationen zu Eltern, Geschwistern, etc. Freundliche Grüße Holger Wittkowski
Date: 2008/04/20 12:29:50
From: Timo Kracke <timo(a)kracke.org>
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Date: 2008/04/20 19:24:29
From: JCCCRAN <JCCCRAN(a)aol.com>
I am trying to trace my mothers family. Her father (my grandfather) was Karl Anton Muller Von Bollenhage. He was a captain in the German navy. His Godfather was the duke of Anton. He came to America in the late eighteen hundreds and served as a first mate on American maritime ships. He was married in New York City to Dorothea Gieshen. I would appreciate any kind of information him. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/21 14:01:08
From: GDiers9488 <GDiers9488(a)aol.com>
Hello, Bollenhagen is part of the parish of Jade, Oldenburg. For this parish a village heritage book (on CD) has been published and can be obtained in the US at the following adress: Lin Cornelius Strong, News Editor Ostfriesen Genealogical Society of America 168 North Lake Street, Suite #3 Forest Lake, MN 55025 651-269-3580 _www.ogsa.us_ (http://www.ogsa.us/) _lstrong(a)cornernet.com_ (mailto:lstrong(a)cornernet.com) You will see, there have been quite a number of Mullers living in that area. Good luck Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society
Date: 2008/04/21 15:15:04
From: JCCCRAN <JCCCRAN(a)aol.com>
Guten morgen Gerold: Thank your for your reply to my request. I will contact the people in Minnesota and obtain a copy of the book. I hope that the information that it contains will be of help. Jim Cranwell **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/21 21:32:02
From: BendW7 <BendW7(a)aol.com>
Hello, I am researching the Middendorf family from Dinklage. Thomas Gustav Anton Middendorf, Born December 18, 1823 in Schwege (?) Died November 16, 1913 in Dinklage Married Maria Elizabeth Brinkmann Born February 9, 1828 in Dinklage Died March 17, 1886 in Schwege (?) Son Clemens Middendorf Born March 25, 1856 in Dinklage Died July 20, 1929 in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Any information about this family in Germany would be appreciated, especially the Brinkmann side if possible. Thank you Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/22 12:45:28
From: Mjgerdes <Mjgerdes(a)aol.com>
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Date: 2008/04/22 14:46:48
From: Gabriele Landwehr <gabriele_landwehr(a)msn.com>
Hallo Thomas Gustav Anton Middendorf * 18.12.1823 - Heuermann in Schwege, + 16.11.1913 °° 30.5.1854 Maria Elisabeth Brinkmann * 9.2.1828, + 17.3.1886, Eltern: Johann Hermann Brinkmann und A.M. Arlinghaus Kinder: 1.Clemens, 2.Josef *23.2.1856 -seid 1880 in Cincinati 3.Elisabeth* 7.11.1859 -+2.9.1898 °° 10.5.1883 Bernhard Willenborg in Langwege -*8.2.1858-+21.8.1928, 4.Berhardine (blieb im Elternhaus)*29.3.1862 -+2.5.1928-°°19.5.1884 Heinrich Heitmann aus Langwege -*16.8.1855 -+16.9.1918, 5.Georg *20.4.1864 -+ 7.3.1944 Carum 6.Franz *23.6.1866 -+27.11.1945 - Varrelbusch 7.Arnold *14.4.1872 -+3.6.1956 Bokern Die Forschung geht bis 1570 zurück. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Gabriele -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von BendW7(a)aol.com Gesendet: Montag, 21. April 2008 20:32 An: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Betreff: [OL] Middendorf from Dinklage Hello, I am researching the Middendorf family from Dinklage. Thomas Gustav Anton Middendorf, Born December 18, 1823 in Schwege (?) Died November 16, 1913 in Dinklage Married Maria Elizabeth Brinkmann Born February 9, 1828 in Dinklage Died March 17, 1886 in Schwege (?) Son Clemens Middendorf Born March 25, 1856 in Dinklage Died July 20, 1929 in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Any information about this family in Germany would be appreciated, especially the Brinkmann side if possible. Thank you Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/22 14:50:55
From: JCCCRAN <JCCCRAN(a)aol.com>
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Date: 2008/04/22 14:58:12
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
In an article describing the farms in the Vechta District, I found the following statement: Gr. Fortmann in Südlohne gehörte zu den "Hausgenossen" I am not clear about the meaning of Hausgenossen. I translate the statement as: (The Farm named) Greater Fortman in Südlohne belongs to the fellow tenants. Is this correct? Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/22 18:07:14
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Ronald, I believe this is a "member of a co-operative" in the farm group of Südlohne. Werner > In an article describing the farms in the Vechta District, I found the > following statement: > Gr. Fortmann in Südlohne gehörte zu den "Hausgenossen" > I am not clear about the meaning of Hausgenossen. I translate the > statement > as: > (The Farm named) Greater Fortman in Südlohne belongs to the fellow > tenants. > Is this correct? > Ronald J Repking > Flossmoor, Illinois
Date: 2008/04/22 18:51:17
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
In an article describing the farms in the Vechta District, I found the following statement:
Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois
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Date: 2008/04/23 04:05:33
From: BendW7 <BendW7(a)aol.com>
Gabriele, Thank you so much for this information - we have finally made the connection of the two families. Clemens Middendorf and Joseph Brinkmann both came to the USA and both ran saloons in Cincinnati, OHIO. We were never sure if they were related - but this makes it that they were. Great. Thank you, Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/23 13:07:33
From: les alderton <lalderton1(a)bigpond.com>
A correction to my earlier search for my greatx2 grandmother. Her name was Marie Josephine von Pressentin not Promentier as previously thought. The writing on her son's marriage certificate was very difficult to decipher. Marie Josephine married Charles Frederick Rosenow. He was an equery. Their son Charles Ausgustus also known as Charles Frederick was born in Oldenburg in 1840. Any information about her would be much appreciated. Jenny
Date: 2008/04/23 16:59:51
From: Faye & Kai <fairdinks(a)web.de>
Moin List Does anyone know if there is a website for Germany or Oldenburg where people can list their spare records? I know Australia/New Zealand, Scotland and certain areas of England have sites for spare certificates and/or church records, but I don't know if there is one for Germany. If there is no such site, can someone let me know if I'm able to send them to the list instead? All of my spares from the Oldenburg area range from 1694 - 1850. Regards Faye
Date: 2008/04/23 17:28:06
From: Klaus Meyer <KlausWernerMeyer(a)web.de>
Moin List
Does anyone know if there is a website for Germany or Oldenburg where people
can list their spare records? I know Australia/New Zealand, Scotland and
certain areas of England have sites for spare certificates and/or church
records, but I don't know if there is one for Germany.
If there is no such site, can someone let me know if I'm able to send them to the list instead? All of my spares from the Oldenburg area range from 1694 - 1850.
Regards
Faye
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Date: 2008/04/23 17:28:15
From: Carel Paradies <c.e.paradies(a)orange.nl>
Moin List
Does anyone know if there is a website for Germany or Oldenburg where people can list their spare records? I know Australia/New Zealand, Scotland and certain areas of England have sites for spare certificates and/or church records, but I don't know if there is one for Germany.
If there is no such site, can someone let me know if I'm able to send them
to the list instead? All of my spares from the Oldenburg area range from
1694 - 1850.
Regards
Faye
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Date: 2008/04/23 18:06:20
From: Faye & Kai <fairdinks(a)web.de>
Hi Carel When I ordered photocopies of the church book records for my ancestors Baptism/Wedding/Burial, I received a photocopy of the entire page (most times, sometimes it was just a copy of my ancestor's record) so I have a page of baptism's, etc and only one record is for my ancestor. The other entries on the page have no relation to me, so they are extra entries or a 'spare' (well that's what they are called in Australia, etc). Also certificates that you may have ordered that turned out not to be your ancestor are also called a 'spare'. I have over 100 pages of church book entries and I don't have the time to search through them every time someone is looking for an ancestor (I would love to but I don't have the time), so I thought if there is a website available that I could lodge them with when I have a few spare minutes, it might help someone with their research someday. If you are curious - http://www.ausbdm.org/ - this is the one for Australia and New Zealand. It's free to join, search and to lodge your spares and the data base is always growing. (For some states, not all, in Australia, when you buy a historical - 1800's - BDM certificate, you receive a photocopy of the whole page of the register which can include up to 5 entries, 1 for your ancestor and 4 non-related entries.) Regards Faye -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Carel Paradies Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2008 17:28 An: Oldenburg-L Betreff: Re: [OL] Spare Records Dear Faye, What are spare records? Regards, Carel Faye & Kai schreef: > Moin List > > > > Does anyone know if there is a website for Germany or Oldenburg where people > can list their spare records? I know Australia/New Zealand, Scotland and > certain areas of England have sites for spare certificates and/or church > records, but I don't know if there is one for Germany. > > > > If there is no such site, can someone let me know if I'm able to send them > to the list instead? All of my spares from the Oldenburg area range from > 1694 - 1850. > > > > Regards > > Faye > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > __________ NOD32 3048 (20080423) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/23 18:34:46
From: Christian Delhey <delhey(a)gmx.de>
Hello, what about WitKorn - not WitHorn?
I have: Anna Maria Witkorn, married Johann Führmann (Fuehrmann) Daughter: Maria Führmann, born 1723 in Damme
Regards Christian Delhey
Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake.
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Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in German? Any information would be greatly appreciated
Paula Calhoun
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Date: 2008/04/23 18:45:25
From: BendW7 <BendW7(a)aol.com>
Hello, I am researching the Wilke family that might be from Vetcha or Goldenstedt My great grandfather was Johann Heinrich Wilke born in 1839 He married Anna Maria Zehusen born in 1841 They had 5 children: Henrich born in 1866 August born in 1868 - Johanna born in 1875 Marie born in 1879 died in Germany before 1891 Franz born in 1885 in Goldenstedt They might have had other children unknown to us. The family came to the USA in 1892 except for August who came in 1896. Any information about this family would be appreciated especially the parents of Johann Heinrich Wilke if found. Thank you Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/23 20:17:19
From: Faye & Kai <fairdinks(a)web.de>
Hi Klaus I've been searching both of those sites and I can't find where I can lodge my spare records. Maybe there is no website for me to lodge them or maybe there is some German law that prevents me from putting the event, date, name, parent/s name/s and area into such a database or on this list (other than for your own ancestors). It seems a shame to have information that could help someone with their research one day. Regards Faye -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Klaus Meyer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2008 17:27 An: Oldenburg-L Betreff: Re: [OL] Spare Records Faye, perhaps contact: http://www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de/ and http://www.genealogy.net/ Klaus Meyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye & Kai" <fairdinks(a)web.de> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [OL] Spare Records > Moin List > > > > Does anyone know if there is a website for Germany or Oldenburg where > people > can list their spare records? I know Australia/New Zealand, Scotland and > certain areas of England have sites for spare certificates and/or church > records, but I don't know if there is one for Germany. > > > > If there is no such site, can someone let me know if I'm able to send them > to the list instead? All of my spares from the Oldenburg area range from > 1694 - 1850. > > > > Regards > > Faye > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/23 21:20:58
From: Heiko Ahlers <HeikoAhlers(a)t-online.de>
Am 29.6.1845 heiraten in Oldenburg Herrmann Gerhard Janssen, Sohn des Johann Gerhard Janssen, Brinksitzer in Bloherfelde und Helene Catharine Kortray, * 16.12.1815, Tochter des weiland Johann Rudolph Kortray, Heuermann in Rastede. --------------- Am 10.8.1845 heiraten: Diedrich Borchers, Schneidermeister in Bornhorst, Sohn des weiland Diedrich Borchers, Bornhorst und Gesche Margarethe Schumacher, * 23.10.1822 Südende, Tochter des weiland Gerd Schumacher, Heuermann in Südende. -------------- Am 12.10.1845 heiraten: Friedrich Beeken, * 15.9.1815 Rastede, Sohn des weiland Friedrich Beeken, Heuermann in Beckhausen, KS Rastede und Theite Catharine Harms, * 11.6.1810 Kniphausersiel, Tochter des weiland Harm Harms, Arbeiter in Kniphausersiel, Hs. Kniphausen ---------------
Date: 2008/04/23 21:41:34
From: Enneking <mail(a)enneking.org>
Hello All, in Damme we have a farmer familiy gr. Piening / Grosse Piening with the low german name / nickname? "Wittkorn". With best regards Johannes Enneking, Damme -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]Im Auftrag von Christian Delhey Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2008 18:35 An: Oldenburg-L Betreff: Re: [OL] Withorn Hello, what about WitKorn - not WitHorn? I have: Anna Maria Witkorn, married Johann Führmann (Fuehrmann) Daughter: Maria Führmann, born 1723 in Damme Regards Christian Delhey > Hallo Paula, the names Withorn, Wiethorn, Wiedhorn and Weithorn all belong > to the same clan. They settled in Damme, Oldenburg and Dielingen, > Westfalen. Their religion was Lutheran. greetings Werner Wierhake. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pjc203(a)zoomtown.com> > To: "Oldenburg-l Genealogy" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:09 PM > Subject: [OL] Withorn > > > >> Looking for any information on WITHORN. 1880 US Census states areas of >> Prussia, Rheinland, Oldenburg, or Hannover. I can also find Wiethorn or >> Weithorn-Are these variations of Withorn or a totally different name in >> German? Any information would be greatly appreciated >> Paula Calhoun >> Oldenburg-L mailing list >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> >> > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/23 22:28:23
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
I do not have any records for you of Wilke in 1839. However the name does appear in the "Kirchspiel Lohne" book by Freiderich Steinkamp. Under the entry "zusammenfassung Wilcke /Wilcking/Wilke/Wilking" there are about thirty names. The latest is Maria Elizabeth Wilke born in 1758. The name Wilkinck/Wilking/ appears 33 times among the baptisms of St Marien Church in Oythe between 1650 and 1745, The following entries are in Dr Pagenstert's book, "Bauernhöf im amte Vechta" - Wilke (Einen), Wilke (Hogenbögen), Wilke (Lohne), Wilke (Runnenbaum), Wilke (Hinnenkamp), Wilke Macke, Wilke Flöttel, and Wilke (Kokenwahlde). Each gives a history of the farm. If you contact me off-line, I can send you a jpg image of any of the Pagenster's entires if you desire. Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois In a message dated 4/23/08 11:45:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, BendW7(a)aol.com writes: Hello, I am researching the Wilke family that might be from Vetcha or Goldenstedt My great grandfather was Johann Heinrich Wilke born in 1839 He married Anna Maria Zehusen born in 1841 They had 5 children: Henrich born in 1866 August born in 1868 - Johanna born in 1875 Marie born in 1879 died in Germany before 1891 Franz born in 1885 in Goldenstedt They might have had other children unknown to us. The family came to the USA in 1892 except for August who came in 1896. Any information about this family would be appreciated especially the parents of Johann Heinrich Wilke if found. Thank you Larry **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/24 06:33:16
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>
I also have Wilke in Bevern, part of Essen back in 1690. fred On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM, <BendW7(a)aol.com> wrote: > Hello, > I am researching the Wilke family that might be from Vetcha or Goldenstedt > My great grandfather was Johann Heinrich Wilke born in 1839 > He married Anna Maria Zehusen born in 1841 > They had 5 children: > Henrich born in 1866 > August born in 1868 - > Johanna born in 1875 > Marie born in 1879 died in Germany before 1891 > Franz born in 1885 in Goldenstedt > They might have had other children unknown to us. > The family came to the USA in 1892 except for August who came in 1896. > Any information about this family would be appreciated especially the > parents of > Johann Heinrich Wilke if found. > Thank you > Larry > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > -- Fred Rump, (239-775-7838) 730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120 fredrump(a)gmail.com http://fredrump.phanfare.com We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it. Jefferson (1820)
Date: 2008/04/25 12:36:52
From: Steve Hellmann <stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com>
Larry I will be in touch. I'm looking to make a connection also. August John Wilke married Franisia Rosa Lina Wubbeler. My grand mother, Elizabeth Josephine Unkraut, on my fathers side. Her grand father was Johann Friederich Unkraut. He amrried Elisabeth Wubbeler. Unkraut and Wubbeler are from Goldenstedt. Have contacted Pat at AirWilke(a)aol.com ? Thanks Steve Hellmann of Edgewood, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: <BendW7(a)aol.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: [OL] Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt > Hello, > I am researching the Wilke family that might be from Vetcha or Goldenstedt > My great grandfather was Johann Heinrich Wilke born in 1839 > He married Anna Maria Zehusen born in 1841 > They had 5 children: > Henrich born in 1866 > August born in 1868 - > Johanna born in 1875 > Marie born in 1879 died in Germany before 1891 > Franz born in 1885 in Goldenstedt > They might have had other children unknown to us. > The family came to the USA in 1892 except for August who came in 1896. > Any information about this family would be appreciated especially the > parents of > Johann Heinrich Wilke if found. > Thank you > Larry > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2008/04/25 16:59:11
From: BendW7 <BendW7(a)aol.com>
Steve, Thank you for the information. Pat is my sister-in-law. She shared the info you gave her with me. Larry In a message dated 4/25/2008 3:37:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com writes: Larry I will be in touch. I'm looking to make a connection also. August John Wilke married Franisia Rosa Lina Wubbeler. My grand mother, Elizabeth Josephine Unkraut, on my fathers side. Her grand father was Johann Friederich Unkraut. He amrried Elisabeth Wubbeler. Unkraut and Wubbeler are from Goldenstedt. Have contacted Pat at AirWilke(a)aol.com ? Thanks Steve Hellmann of Edgewood, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: <BendW7(a)aol.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: [OL] Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt > Hello, > I am researching the Wilke family that might be from Vetcha or Goldenstedt > My great grandfather was Johann Heinrich Wilke born in 1839 > He married Anna Maria Zehusen born in 1841 > They had 5 children: > Henrich born in 1866 > August born in 1868 - > Johanna born in 1875 > Marie born in 1879 died in Germany before 1891 > Franz born in 1885 in Goldenstedt > They might have had other children unknown to us. > The family came to the USA in 1892 except for August who came in 1896. > Any information about this family would be appreciated especially the > parents of > Johann Heinrich Wilke if found. > Thank you > Larry > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)
Date: 2008/04/26 21:48:05
From: Matthias.Behrens <Matthias.Behrens(a)web.de>
HI together, The town is Vechta and not Vetcha. 1. Re: Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt (Steve Hellmann) 2. Re: Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt (BendW7(a)aol.com) Regards Matthias
Date: 2008/04/26 22:21:41
From: Heinzmann, Henry G. <hgheinzmann(a)acc-net.com>
Page 20 of the baptismal book of Saint Gorgonius church in Goldenstedt, shows Johann Henrich Wilke born on 7 June 1839 and baptized on 8 June 1839 at Saint Gorgonius. His parents were Johann Henrich Wilke, Heuerling in Ambergen, and Dina nee Lamping. Page 49 of the same book shows a sibling, Anna Catharina Helene, *15 July 1841, ~17 July 1841, born to Johann Henrich Wilke and Anna margaretha Elisabeth Dina Lamping. I could not find a marriage for Johann Henrich Wilke and Maria Anna Zerhusen. This couple, nevertheless, has at least the following children: 1. Maria Elisabeth Wilke, *30 October 1871, ~31 October 1871 (page 158) 2. Maria Anna Wilke, *4 December 1874, ~5 December 1874 (page 193) Page 76 of the marriage book has Johann Henrich Wilke (son of Johann Gerd Wilke, Haussling in Goldenstette, and Anna Catharina Elisabeth Nagaler) married on 23 September 1830 to Anna Catharina Dina Lamping from Lutten, daughter of Philipp Lamping and Anna Maria Elisabeth Grave. Hope it helps. Hank Heinzmann -----Original Message----- From: <Matthias.Behrens(a)web.de> Sent 4/26/2008 3:47:56 PM To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: Re: [OL] Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt HI together, The town is Vechta and not Vetcha. 1. Re: Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt (Steve Hellmann) 2. Re: Wilke from Vetcha or Goldenstedt (BendW7(a)aol.com) Regards Matthias Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net [1]http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l References 1. http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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