oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2008-02 00104

[Angela Romain <amr38(a)yahoo.com>]

You are probably right on the Kaufmann family 
as my uncle's book just says north Germany. 
I just assumed it might be the Oldenburg area
since Greencreek, Illinois ancestors seem to 
be from that area.  I just haven't been able to pull
up anything on the Kaufmann's in Germany that
applies to my great grandpa Ferdinand Bernard.

As for Anna Maria "Elizabeth" Niemann, I show her 
father as Herman (1780-1854) and 
mother as Maria Elisabeth Seelhorst (1790-1820)?
I show Herman's father as Tobias Ruholl (1755-?) and
Herman's wife as Catherine Maria Niemann 1754-1789).
I don't know how accurate that information is.  

The other thing I would like to verify is the spelling of 
Niemann and of course, I would love the rest of the 
history on the Niemanns/Ruholls.

You are also correct on Osterhaus.  I meant to say Steinfeld.
However, that is just a guess as my Uncle wasn't specific as to
what area he was from, only that he got discharged from the
army out of Osnabruck.  I just happened to see some Osterhaus 
(Osterhus) listed in Steinfeld (which I learned means stone field).

Yesterday I spent some time trying to study the geography of 
the area but it's a bit confusing.  Am I correct in assuming that
Vechta is like our county?  The other thing that was confusing
is I saw Oldenburg next to a couple different cities on the map.
Do they have city-states in Germany?

As always, thank you for any assistance you can offer.

Angela


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Hello Angela,

I have some records of Anna Maria Niemann from Dinklage-Bahlen - a friend in Dinklage have the whole history.
I could not find any records for Kaufmann or Osterhaus in the Oldenburg province - you are sure that the spelling is correct? Could it be Kathmann or Osterhues (in Steinfeld)?
There is a concentration of the name Osterhaus in the Osnabrück area.

We have a lot of places called "Steinberg" in Germany, but not in the Oldenburg province.

Sincerely,
Werner Honkomp


> I am the great great granddaughter of Ferdinand Bernard Kaufmann born
> around 1810 in Oldenburg, serving in the army and then emigrating to the
> USA via Bremen on 20 Jun 1837 ending up in Effingham County, Illinois.
> This information is from my Uncle Gus Hoene's research he did in 1976.  I
> have all of the USA history.
> I have been unable to locate anything further on this Kaufmann family in
> Oldenburg and am hoping someone can get me further information.

> Ferdinand married Anna Maria NIEMANN (born in 1820 - I believe of Bahlen,
> Dinklage, Oldenburg).  She was a widow of John Frederick OSTERHAUS (born
> in 1806 in Oldenburg).  He also served in the army and was discharged at
> Osnabruck in April 1833.  He then emigrated to the USA also ending up in
> Effingham County where he married Anna Niemann (daughter of Herman Niemann
> and Mary Selhorst (SEELHORST) in 1841.  I have all the USA history..
> I have been unable to locate anything further on this Osterhaus family in
> Oldenburg (could have come from the Stienberg area?) and am hoping someone
> can get me further information.

> I am a descendant of many of the Dinklage area farms (Hoene, Buenne
> (Bunne), Langwege) and have found the history fascinating.  My father and
> many of his brothers and uncles were all farmers in Illinois, Idaho and
> Montana.  It seems our descendants started in Dinklage, emigrated to the
> Greencreek (Effingham County) area of Illinois and then on to Green Creek
> (Idaho County) area of Idaho.

> I appreciate any assistance you can offer.  FYI - I am an ancestry.com and
> familysearch.org user.

> Angela Romain in Phoenix, Arizona
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Hello Angela,

I have some records of Anna Maria Niemann from Dinklage-Bahlen - a friend in Dinklage have the whole history.
I could not find any records for Kaufmann or Osterhaus in the Oldenburg province - you are sure that the spelling is correct? Could it be Kathmann or Osterhues (in Steinfeld)?
There is a concentration of the name Osterhaus in the Osnabrück area.

We have a lot of places called "Steinberg" in Germany, but not in the Oldenburg province.

Sincerely,
Werner Honkomp


> I am the great great granddaughter of Ferdinand Bernard Kaufmann born
> around 1810 in Oldenburg, serving in the army and then emigrating to the
> USA via Bremen on 20 Jun 1837 ending up in Effingham County, Illinois.
> This information is from my Uncle Gus Hoene's research he did in 1976.  I
> have all of the USA history.
> I have been unable to locate anything further on this Kaufmann family in
> Oldenburg and am hoping someone can get me further information.

> Ferdinand married Anna Maria NIEMANN (born in 1820 - I believe of Bahlen,
> Dinklage, Oldenburg).  She was a widow of John Frederick OSTERHAUS (born
> in 1806 in Oldenburg).  He also served in the army and was discharged at
> Osnabruck in April 1833.  He then emigrated to the USA also ending up in
> Effingham County where he married Anna Niemann (daughter of Herman Niemann
> and Mary Selhorst (SEELHORST) in 1841.  I have all the USA history.
> I have been unable to locate anything further on this Osterhaus family in
> Oldenburg (could have come from the Stienberg area?) and am hoping someone
> can get me further information.

> I am a descendant of many of the Dinklage area farms (Hoene, Buenne
> (Bunne), Langwege) and have found the history fascinating.  My father and
> many of his brothers and uncles were all farmers in Illinois, Idaho and
> Montana.  It seems our descendants started in Dinklage, emigrated to the
> Greencreek (Effingham County) area of Illinois and then on to Green Creek
> (Idaho County) area of Idaho.

> I appreciate any assistance you can offer.  FYI - I am an ancestry.com and
> familysearch.org user.

> Angela Romain in Phoenix, Arizona
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> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
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Mein Name ist Jean Carlo Schultze.
Mächte gerne mehr über mein Grossvater wissen.
Ich wohne im Brasilien Süd America .
Er ist im 1923 ausgewandert, er  ist im Elisabehtfehn
geboren. Mächte gerne Name sein Grossvater wissen.

Mein Name ist Jean Carlo Schultze.
Mächte gerne mehr über mein Grossvater wissen.
Ich wohne im Brasilien Süd America .
Er ist im 1923 ausgewandert, er  ist im Elisabehtfehn
geboren. Mächte gerne Name sein Grossvater wissen.
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