oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2008-01 00192

[Lothar Grafe <haesli2(a)yahoo.com>]

Dear listmembers,
Hi, Johan

As far as I know in 1602 the "Verenigde Oostindie Compagnie" (VOC) was founded and lots of German hired to this Company to work there. An additional reason for being there was that colonies in Eastern India (today: Indonesia,) were founded and some of them went there to live there too.

I´m not sure but I think in 1798 the "Golden Age" of VOC ended.

Many people from Germany, also from the Oldenburg region worked there too. You can see it on the website http://voc.websilon.nl

Best regards

Lothar Grafe
Gelsenkirchen, Germany
 
I am researching for; Grafe-Rensen-Thien-Nienaber-Kuhlmann-Bahlmann-Wesselmann-Westerkamp-Frye-Frieling-Grave-Klünemann-Hoyer-Averbeck-Jaspers-Vorwerk-Brinkmann-Ostendorf-Wübbelmann-(they all come from the area; Cloppenburg-Emstek-Molbergen-Vestrup-Bakum_Langförden)


----- Original Message ----
From: Johan Wiegman <jfwiegman(a)hetnet.nl>
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:58:28 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Oldenburg emigration

Chris,

The Northern part of Germany has always been extremely poor due to the fact there was not that much
land that produced good crops. Additionally, the local land owners were not all that friendly to the
small farmers and workers. 

The tradition of working in Holland is quite old. In the 17th Century the Dutch had their Golden Age of
economic expansion and wealth. That attracted German workers as early as the 17th Century.

Biggest reason for emigration was poverty.

Best regards,

Johan 




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]Namens chris beekman
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 januari 2008 17:10
Aan: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Onderwerp: Re: [OL] Oldenburg emigration


List members,

The stories of the region in the early 20th century are moving and enlightening, even for those of us whose ancestors migrated to the Americas long before. Still, even earlier migrations have the same sad relationship to war and similar impacts on heritage. 

My own ancestor traveled from Hammelwarden (on the Weser) to Texel (Holland) and came over to Fort Orange and Beverwick in 1639. He was 12 years old, apparently alone, and rapidly assimilated to life in a Dutch community by becoming part of the Dutch Reformed Church, using a Dutch version of his name (Marten Hendricksz), and his line spoke Dutch for the next 150 years at least. Being essentially an indentured servant for 6 years probably had an impact on his German heritage! 

Do we have many list members looking at emigration that far back? If so, do we have any clear sense of why they emigrated or how they might have done it during the period of the 30 Years War? Traveling from the Weser to Texel during that period must have been interesting. 

c


Dr. Christopher S. Beekman
Department of Anthropology
University of Colorado at Denver


-----Original Message-----
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 1:25 am
Subject: Re: [OL] Oldenburg History



You asked for the reason of emigration from the Oldenburg province:
"If you have enough bread, stay here, you don´t have to go only for the butter 
o America."
See also this links:
http://www.heimatverein-steinfeld.de/history/emigration.html
http://www.honkomp.de/geschichte/tegen.htm
http://www.honkomp.de/damme-auswanderung/chapter3.htm
I hope it helps,
erner Honkomp

Love all the stories about Oldenburg during the World Wars.
> My ancestors all emigrated before that, though.  One of the reasons I
started getting seriously into genealogy was to find out why.
> The German community in central Missouri that was formed from this
emigration started in the mid 1800's, and I suppose it was mainly do to
the German Revolution of 1848 and subsequent rise to power of Otto von
Bismarck and the Prussians, or the Deutsches Kaiserreich.
> What was the environment like in Oldenburg during this time period that
caused so much emigration?
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