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W. Fred Rump
Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars
Datum 2008/01/21 16:40:43
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[OL] Olderburg during the Wars
2008/01/21 16:18:34
W. Fred Rump
Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars
Betreff 2008/01/21 16:40:43
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[OL] Olderburg during the Wars
2008/01/21 15:55:59
Christopher Grote
Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars
Autor 2008/01/22 21:43:49
Christopher Grote
Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars

Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars

Date: 2008/01/21 16:24:19
From: Christopher Grote <cgrote(a)rush.edu>

Hi Annette,

I mis-spoke earlier, my Visbek book is actually about Erlte, a small farming
community 10 miles outside of Visbek.  My Erlte relatives gave it to me; if
you're interested I could try to find the publisher, but there's also a
Erlte webpage that I think has the same info.

Its amazing to me that a town of maybe 500 people would have their own
history book, but the town's recorded history goes back to 800AD or so, so
things accumulate!

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Annette Sweetman
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:17 AM
To: Oldenburg-L
Subject: Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars

Chris
I would love a copy of the visbek book... where did you obtain that one?
Thanks
Annette

Christopher Grote wrote:
> Fred and others,
>
> Thank you for the interesting and informative replies.  
>
> At home, I have books written on the history of Alfhausen (my
grandmother's
> town) and Visbek (my grandfather's town), both written in German of
course,
> which I do not speak.  One of these books, the one on Alfhausen I believe
> (this being a bit northwest of Osnabruck), has a chapter on Jewish people
in
> that area.  If this listserv allows, I could try to scan the chapter and
> send it as an attachment, if someone here would have the interest and time
> in doing a quick read through and telling the rest of us what it says.
>
> Chris
> Chicag
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
> [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of W. Fred Rump
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:47 AM
> To: Oldenburg-L
> Subject: Re: [OL] Olderburg during the Wars
>
> On Jan 21, 2008 8:02 AM, Paul Rowold <paulrowold(a)kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
>   
>> Fred
>>
>> No one can deny that Oldenburg had a small jewish population which was
>> vanished  in WWII without any rumour?
>>
>> Paul
>>     
>
> Has anybody denied that? Let me give a little history of their plight.
> During the 18th century there were very few Jews in the Duchy of
> Oldenburg. Those who lived there were not considered as citizens of
> the communities they lived in. They had to pay for protection and for
> the right too settle which limited their presence pretty much to the
> city of Oldenburg, Varel and Jever. By 1822 there were 91 so called
> Schutzjuden (protected Jews) who paid a fee for the privilege of doing
> business in the duchy. These were the heads of household and together
> with their families totalled 746 people or less then 1/2% of the
> population. In 1827 the duke granted the Jews of his land religious
> freedom and provided the function of a chief rabbi to oversea their
> schools and religious observances. By 1854 nine synagogues existed in
> Oldenburg. (Berne, Cloppenburg, Delmenhorst, Jever, Oldenburg,
> Ovelgönne, Varel, Vechta and Wlideshausen). A thorough revision of the
> rights of the Jews was published in 1858 to enable them to be full
> partners in the citizenship of the country. These rules lasted until
> 1927. After WWI the state subsidy for the Jewish community was
> increased from 1500 to 4000 Reichsmark. 1932 brought an abrupt change
> to all the laws which had been provided for the protection of the
> Jews. The National Socialist state blamed the Jews for the WWI defeat
> of Germany and enacted all manner of laws to force them out of the
> country. Many left including the chief rabbi, Dr. Leo Trepp . Others
> were 'resettled' or arrested and died in concentration camps. The Jews
> of Oldenburg were mostly the businessmen who sold and traded goods in
> the communities they lived in. The slow disappearance of the Jews was
> not seen as an extermination attempt by the populace but mostly a
> quiet move out of the country. There were no protests as nothing as
> nefarious as what was actually happening behind the scenes was
> believable - even though all the synagogues had been burned on
> Krystallnacht this was just a bunch of ruffians doing evil deeds.
> People tend not to question the actions of their governments too
> severely as those are the people who are supposed to be smarter then
> us and we put them in power. As such we all deserve the governments we
> have.
>
> There are several synagogues in the Land Oldenburg today. Their
> membership is still only a few hundred but no real record exists of
> what may have happened to each and every family during those
> horrendous years of the Nazi regime. It can only be hoped that most
> emigrated before they were interned, for their own protection, as the
> government claimed. Schutzhaft (protective custody) was the word used
> to retain people without trial.
>
> Fred
>
>
>   
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