oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2007-09 00053

[Michael Miller <michaelmiller1340(a)alltel.net>]

Marilyn,

Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but the
date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know the
birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to you.

Sandra

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Margrethe Else Hussmann (Traute Buck)
   2.  Symbols in Jade CD? (mstulken(a)wi.net)
   3. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (Jens-Peter Sch?tte)
   4. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (David Harfst)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200
From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Hallo Klaus,

k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in Hannover
und Diepholz befinden?

Danke f?r die M?he.
Viele Gr??e
Traute
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From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann


Hallo Traute,

Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Sch?nen Abend
Klaus


----- Original Nachricht ----
Von:     Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
An:      Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum:   04.09.2007 13:10
Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
>
> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
>
> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalf?rden,
> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
>
> T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu
> Schweringhausen,
> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.
>
> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.
>
> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en
> k?nnte?
>
> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
>
> Viele Gr??e
> Traute
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: mstulken(a)wi.net
Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
 Proclamation?  Something else?

I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
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  Hi, Marilyn,

  below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic
lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e.
(t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example,  ?born,
but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized  July 27, 1792 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
                              Genealogic Symbols:

  *         born                                        G       divorced
  u       illegitimately born                       ?        died
  x            stillborn
v            killed in action in war
  gs           died on day of birth                                 b
buried                                                        t
baptized                                    &#9792;       female
  &#8776;       confirmed                                 &#9794;       male
  K                   married (in church)
  H        married (at registrar?s office)

  In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me
know.

  Have a nice week-end

  Peter Sch?tte



mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb:  Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~
indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
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* - Born
~ - Baptized
? or oo - Married
? - Died
Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried

Here's an online legend:
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:

It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other
source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.

I think the (~) must mean illegitimate.  My reference says that (*)
means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth
entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry.  So I would assume that
means an illegitimate birth.

mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:
> Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
>
> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
>
> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
>
> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
>  Proclamation?  Something else?
>
> I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
> the CD, but I haven't found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Marilyn
>
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