Date: 2007/09/01 15:51:22
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Hi Juergen I don't have one yet - but it I do, I'll email you. Thank you! Annette
Hello Annette,
Annette Sweetman wrote:
I have 2 Visbek Church Book records in question:
Heiko already answered your questions. Just in case you ever happen to find a Luesse (Lüsse) surname in your family tree, please let me know. My Lüsse ancestors origin from Visbek / Astrup area.
Kind regards,
Juergen
Date: 2007/09/01 20:11:02
From: Ettie Lisa <ede_jonge_de_roos(a)hotmail.com>
beste Mitglieder Is er vielleicht ein er die etwas kan sagen uber Meindert Jans Schaep in Oldenburg er heirate 2-5-1779 in Weener mit Haike Roelfs van Weener Croiger. Dieses ehepar sind mijne vorfather ich hoffe er ist jemand die mich kan helfen. Herzlich Dank Ettie de Jonge
Date: 2007/09/03 22:26:49
From: Richard C. Ehlers <rcehlers(a)gate.net>
Date: 2007/09/03 23:00:36
From: Richard C. Ehlers <rcehlers(a)gate.net>
Date: 2007/09/03 23:06:37
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
I've been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERSnames that until now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more. Now, I'm wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken. I don't know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it. Thank you kindly, Marilyn
Date: 2007/09/04 01:50:25
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
According to "German Names" by Hans Bahlow - Stü(c)ken (quite frequent in Hamburg); compare to Stulleke Hamburg around 1375, Johan Stulle Hamburg 1394. For Stölcke(n) compare to Herman Stolleke, Soest 1318. Ronald J Repking Flossmoor, Illinois In a message dated 9/3/07 4:07:10 PM Central Daylight Time, mstulken(a)wi.net writes: I've been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERS—names that until now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more. Now, I'm wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken. I don't know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it. Thank you kindly, Marilyn Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Date: 2007/09/04 06:36:18
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Thank you, Ronald! Marilyn > > > According to "German Names" by Hans Bahlow - > > Stü(c)ken (quite frequent in Hamburg); compare to Stulleke Hamburg > around > 1375, Johan Stulle Hamburg 1394. For Stölcke(n) compare to Herman > Stolleke, > Soest 1318. > > > Ronald J Repking > Flossmoor, Illinois > > In a message dated 9/3/07 4:07:10 PM Central Daylight Time, > mstulken(a)wi.net > writes: > > I've been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERSânames > that > until now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more. > > Now, I'm wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken. I > don't know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it. > > Thank you kindly, > Marilyn > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2007/09/04 13:10:06
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer, wer kann mir weiterhelfen? Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden, Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15 Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen, get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden. Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen. Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen könnte? Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe. Viele Grüße Traute
Date: 2007/09/04 18:00:47
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Liebe Mäuse, liebe Listen-Teilnehmer, könnt ihr mir weiterhelfen? Folgende Daten fehlen mir noch: Jost Hinrich HOYERMANN (*........, +.........../Ort) geb. GRONEMEIER. Er oo am ....................../Ort Rebecca Maria Bockhorn (*........, +.........../Ort). Der Sohn Johann Harm HEUERMANN *18.04.1770, Scholen, + ..............., oo 04.12.1801 in Scholen mit Marie Dorothee LAMPEN (*........, +.........../Ort). Deren Sohn, Hinrich Christian Dietrich HEUERMANN (*23.10.1802 in Scholen oo 04.11.1825, Scholen Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS (Auszug aus dem Kirchenregister). Handschriftlich ist noch auf einem Zettel vermerkt: 1790: Johann Joachim Hoyermann, Ottendorf 1770, 10. März: +Großmutter Anna Katarine Jürgensen 1757, 18. Nov.: Großvater John. Jürgensen, Vater von 1757, 18. Dez.: + Daniel Mathias Jürgensen 1740, 24. Aug.: ist Joh. Joachim Hoyermann geb. 1740, 17. Nov.: Margaretha Elisabeth Hoyermann geb. Kifferts 1768, 26. Juli: oo Joh. Joachim Hoyermann und Margaretha Elisabeth Kifferts 1813, 18. Januar: Sohn Joh. Henning Hoyermann, + 10 Jahre 2 Monate 11 Tage 1820, 4. Mai: ............... ist Schwiegermutter ........................ Hoyermann geb. Seifert, +78 Jahre 7 Monate 15 Tage 1843, 26. Febr: ...................... Frau Anna Rebecka Dorothea geb. Harms, +75 Jahre 20 Tage. Ich weiß auch nicht, wo ich Johann Joachim Hoyermann unterbringen soll. Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn ihr mir da weiterhelfen könntet. Viele Grüße Traute
Date: 2007/09/04 21:21:34
From: klaus . wrede <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
Hallo Traute, Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen. Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz. Schönen Abend Klaus ----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann > Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer, > > wer kann mir weiterhelfen? > > Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden, > Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15 > > Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen, > get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden. > > Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau > Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen. > > Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen > könnte? > > Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe. > > Viele Grüße > Traute > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > Viel oder wenig? Schnell oder langsam? Unbegrenzt surfen + telefonieren ohne Zeit- und Volumenbegrenzung? DAS TOP ANGEBOT FÜR ALLE NEUEINSTEIGER Jetzt bei Arcor: günstig und schnell mit DSL - das All-Inclusive-Paket für clevere Doppel-Sparer, nur 34,95 inkl. DSL- und ISDN-Grundgebühr! http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-dsl-2
Date: 2007/09/04 21:34:53
From: Claudia <Claudia(a)j-t.de>
am Samstag, dem 17. November findet ein Seminar zur Kirchenbuchverkartung im Hotel Waldesruh in Osnabrück / Georgsmarienhütte statt.
Der Arbeitskreis Familienforschung Osnabrück (OSFA) freut sich, Ihnen das Programm zur Kirchenbuchverkartung erstmalig im deutschsprachigen Raum vorstellen zu können.
In gemeinschaftlicher Arbeit mit dem bekannten Programmautor Gisbert Berwe ist ein speziell für die Kirchenbuchverkartung entwickeltes Modul zur zeilenweisen Eingabe der Kirchenbuchdaten entstanden. Auf einem Bildschirm sind Kirchenbuch und Eingabemaske ideal miteinander kombiniert und ermöglichen beste Verarbeitungsbedingungen. Alle denkbaren Zusatzinformationen werden aufgenommen und verarbeitet. Als Ergebnis ist die Ausgabe eines kompletten Ortsfamilienbuches ohne zusätzliche Arbeitsschritte möglich. Die Basis des Programms bildet das bereits weithin bekannte Programm " Gen_Plus" des Programmautors.
In der ganztägigen Schulung werden wir die Kirchenbuchverkartung im Rahmen der EDV besprechen. Das Programm wird uns vom Programmautor Gisbert Berwe vorgestellt. Auf dem eigenen PC werden die Funktionen des Programms erlernt, das Zusammenspiel mit der Kirchenbuchdarstellung und die Funktionen der Datenbanken erklärt. Das Genealogieprogramm Gen-Plus ist die Grundlage der Datenverarbeitung und wird ebenfalls ein wesentlicher Teil des Seminars sein.
Für Mittagessen sowie Kaffee und Kuchen sorgt wie immer Familie Plate und ihr Hotelteam. Rechtzeitig zum Seminar geben wir die Agenda bekannt.
Date: 2007/09/04 21:59:15
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>
Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people? In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born. He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg. He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later. Adolph died in May 1916. I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown. My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army. Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents? Thanks for your time. Pattie _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
Date: 2007/09/04 22:28:12
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
Hi Pattie!You know the marriage date in Oldenburg of your couple. If you can find someone to look up this record in the church records of Oldenburg - normally the town of birth is remarked in it. Greetings from Schwaben, Andrea> From: pcamp952(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:59:06 -0400> Subject: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people? In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born. He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg. He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later. Adolph died in May 1916. I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown.> My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army. Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents?> Thanks for your time.> Pattie _________________________________________________________________ Schnell, einfach und kostenlos auf Windows Live™ Hotmail umsteigen! http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/14811??PS=
Date: 2007/09/05 04:04:10
From: Steve Hellmann <stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com>
My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn. Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten. Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn? Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my ancestors? Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas > Hi > I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A > village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek - > Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld, > -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does > Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks > Annette > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2007/09/05 15:17:54
From: Christopher Grote <cgrote(a)rush.edu>
Steve, If you google "Germany telephone book" or like terms you'll get some hits that allow you to type in the name of a German town and a last name. That's how I found my long lost relatives in Visbek/Erlte. Good luck, Chris Chicago (originally Cincinnati) -----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Steve Hellmann Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:10 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn. Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten. Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn? Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my ancestors? Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas > Hi > I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A > village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek - > Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld, > -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does > Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks > Annette > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2007/09/05 15:31:43
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.
Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.
Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?
Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my ancestors?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
Hi
I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A
village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek -
Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
-Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks
Annette
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Date: 2007/09/05 18:16:15
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Annette,
Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that
Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie Bruns.
but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
Thank you,
Werner
-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:
Bruns, Johann Bernd
Pächter auf Wilmes Stätte zu Langförden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
* 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi
> I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet. I just
> received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family
> Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year
> range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know! I've only had a
> moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a
> Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone? I remembered it
> because Varnhorn is also a place.
> Annette
> Steve Hellmann wrote:
>> My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.
>>
>> Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
>> Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.
>>
>> Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
>> Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?
>>
>> Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married
>> my
>> ancestors?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
>> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
>> Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A
>>> village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek -
>>> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
>>> -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
>>> Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks
>>> Annette
>>> Oldenburg-L mailing list
>>> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
>>> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2007/09/05 18:28:19
From: marge christensen <margechristensen(a)netzero.net>
Hello, I read your email posted on the Oldenburg-L and I recognized some of your ancestory...I have a Matthias Jürgens aka Jürgensen born in Oldenburg in the year 1781. Is he a part of your ancestory? I have the documentation for his marriage to Anne Maria Gerhardine Holzen. This couple was married on 18 Aug 1816 in Oldenburg. Matthias was born in Naestved ? Denmark, hence the Danish spelling of the Jürgens/Jürgensen name. I am willing to share family records . Thank you for your time. Respectfully M. Juergens Christensen - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM
Date: 2007/09/05 20:30:34
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
No problem, I'll look next time I go. Was Heinrich Joseph Bruns birth in Visbek? Annette
Hello Annette,
Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns. We assume, that
Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie Bruns.
but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have changed the name to Bruns. Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
Thank you, Werner
----------------------------------------------------------- This found Ludger von Husen:
Bruns, Johann Bernd Pächter auf Wilmes Stätte zu Langförden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden) oo Bruns, Anne Marie Kinder (children): 1. Heinrich Joseph * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): Henrich Joseph - some more after this --------------------------------------------------------------
Hi
I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet. I just
received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family
Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year
range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know! I've only had a
moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a
Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone? I remembered it
because Varnhorn is also a place.
Annette
Steve Hellmann wrote:
My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.Oldenburg-L mailing list
Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.
Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?
Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my ancestors?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
Hi I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek - Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld, -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks Annette Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2007/09/05 21:43:41
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Check this phone directory: http://www1.dastelefonbuch.de/?la=en&cmd=banner&cx=&cy=&sp=58&sp=58&aktion=11 Good luck, Werner Honkomp > My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn. > Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. > Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten. > Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, > Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn? > Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my > ancestors? > Thanks in advance for any help. > Thanks > Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> > To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM > Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas >> Hi >> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A >> village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek - >> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld, >> -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does >> Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks >> Annette >> Oldenburg-L mailing list >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2007/09/06 03:33:29
From: Steve Hellmann <stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com>
Annette My great grand mother Anna Katharina (nee Varnhorn) Hellmann born 01/08/1870 in Oythe. Anna's father Friedrich August Varnhorn born 01/11/1834 in Lutten Anna's mother Maria Elisabeth (nee Themann) Varnhorn born 07/03/1833 in Lutten So far I have 4 children Maria Elisabeth Varnhorn born 06/14/1862 in Oythe, Germany Josephine Elisabeth Varnhorn born 12/25/1866 in Oythe, Germany Anna Katharina Varnhorn born 01/08/1870 in Oythe, Germany Maria Bernhardine Varnhorn born 08/12/1873 in Oythe, Germany Anna married Johann Josef Hellmann Josephine married Arnold Joseph Hellmann Johann and Arnold were 1st cousins. Thanks Steve Hellmann of Edgewood, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas > Hi > I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet. I just > received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family > Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year > range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know! I've only had a > moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a > Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone? I remembered it > because Varnhorn is also a place. > Annette > > Steve Hellmann wrote: > > My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn. > > > > Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld. > > Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten. > > > > Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek, > > Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn? > > > > Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my > > ancestors? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Thanks > > Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com> > > To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM > > Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas > > > > > > > >> Hi > >> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A > >> village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek - > >> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld, > >> -Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does > >> Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks > >> Annette > >> Oldenburg-L mailing list > >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > >> > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2007/09/06 14:37:52
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Thanks everyone for such a helpful list! Annette
Date: 2007/09/06 15:49:36
From: Cherlyn Bruns <cbruns(a)linkcity.org>
Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.
We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem.
I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me. They gave me the
original information which opened up an area to research.
Regards
Cherlyn Bruns
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org
Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail>
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Hello Annette,
Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his
ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that
Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie
Bruns.
but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
Thank you,
Werner
-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:
Bruns, Johann Bernd
P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in
Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
* 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------
Date: 2007/09/06 15:58:24
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.
We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem.
I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me. They gave me the original information which opened up an area to research.
Regards
Cherlyn Bruns
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200 From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hello Annette,
Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns. We assume, that
Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie Bruns.
but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have changed the name to Bruns. Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
Thank you, Werner
----------------------------------------------------------- This found Ludger von Husen:
Bruns, Johann Bernd P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden) oo Bruns, Anne Marie Kinder (children): 1. Heinrich Joseph * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): Henrich Joseph - some more after this --------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 2007/09/06 17:33:29
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>
Hi Andrea and thanks. I think someone told me that there was a fire in the late 1800's and that records were destroyed. Do you know if this fire was at St. Lamberti? Thanks. Pattie > From: akorbanka(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:28:03 +0100> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > > Hi Pattie!You know the marriage date in Oldenburg of your couple. If you can find someone to look up this record in the church records of Oldenburg - normally the town of birth is remarked in it.> > Greetings from Schwaben,> Andrea> From: pcamp952(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:59:06 -0400> Subject: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people? In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born. He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg. He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later. Adolph died in May 1916. I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown.> My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army. Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents?> Thanks for your time.> Pattie > _________________________________________________________________> Schnell, einfach und kostenlos auf Windows Live™ Hotmail umsteigen!> http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/14811??PS=> Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
Date: 2007/09/06 20:16:33
From: von Husen <von-husen(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Cherlyn,
die Ehe des Johan Bernd Bruns mit Anne Marie Bruns ist nicht in Visbek
geschlossen worden, wie mir Ludger Kock mitteilte, der die Visbeker
Kirchenbücher verkartet.
Gruß
Ludger von Husen
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Cherlyn Bruns
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. September 2007 15:51
An: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP
Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.
We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem.
I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me. They gave me the
original information which opened up an area to research.
Regards
Cherlyn Bruns
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org
Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hello Annette,
Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his
ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that
Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie
Bruns.
but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
Thank you,
Werner
-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:
Bruns, Johann Bernd
P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in
Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
* 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 2007/09/06 20:25:54
From: GDiers9488 <GDiers9488(a)aol.com>
Hello Pattie, the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage: 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel. You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg. Regards Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society
Date: 2007/09/06 20:43:06
From: Ettie Lisa <ede_jonge_de_roos(a)hotmail.com>
Hello I am Ettie de Jonge fom Assen, Holland and look for my forparents with te name Bruins. Meindert Bruins came to Beerta in Holland and marryd Epke Edens. His father are Rolf Meinderts from Weener and his Father Meindert Jans Schaep from Oldenburg. Are ther people the nowe there is a place in the near of Oldenburg by the name Schaep.? Mayby er is someone the can look for me in Oldenburg for the parents of Meindert Jans Schaep van Oldenburg. Bruuns, he marryd to Haike Roelfs from Weener. Thank you so much Ettie de Jonge
Date: 2007/09/06 21:01:29
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
There are a few BRUNS in the Oythe Churchbook. I transcribed the entries through 1746. Page Child Father Mother 33 1675 Feb 24 Maragaretha Arnold Bruns Geiseke Weddiks 35 1676 May 0 Tereca Arendbus Bruns Geseca Weddick 39 1677 Dec 26 Maria Arnold Bruns Geske Bruns 42 1679 Sep 4 Anna Arnold Bruns Gesina Bruns 50 1681 Sep 20 Catherina Arnold Bruns Geske Webing 59 1687 Jan 25 Joes Arnold Leurent Geseca Bruns 70 1692 Apr 18 Helena Heinrich Bruns Geiseke Weideke 111 1712 Oct 13 Maria Henrich Sander Phenenn Bruns Ronald J Repking Repkingron(a)aol.com Flossmoor, Illinois In a message dated 9/6/07 9:00:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bubs(a)nc.rr.com writes: I saw some Bruns in the Visbek churchbook 1811-1841, but I didn't have the first name when I was looking and when I got home I saw that the first name was different than the one you are looking for? Did you see these other Bruns? I can recheck when I go back. Annette Cherlyn Bruns wrote: > Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger > > Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give. > > We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and > Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search > frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the language > barrier could be part of the problem. > > I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me. They gave me the > original information which opened up an area to research. > > Regards > Cherlyn Bruns > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200 > From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> > Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas > To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net > Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org > Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello Annette, > > Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his > ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns. > We assume, that > > Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie > Bruns. > > but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have > changed the name to Bruns. > Please keep your eyes for this marriage record. > > Thank you, > Werner > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This found Ludger von Husen: > > > Bruns, Johann Bernd > P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in > Langfoerden) > oo Bruns, Anne Marie > Kinder (children): > 1. Heinrich Joseph > * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): > Henrich Joseph > - some more after this > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net _http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l_ (http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Date: 2007/09/06 21:12:17
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>
Dear Gerold, THANKS!!! Could I bother you to translate the entire record for me? Again, thanks so very much. Pattie > From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
Date: 2007/09/06 21:36:27
From: marge christensen <margechristensen(a)netzero.net>
Hello, sorry I mistyped a piece of data: Matthias Jurgens was born in Denmark about 1781. Matthias married Anne Marie Gerhardine Holzen on 18 Aug 1816 in Oldenberg. Matthias was born in Naestved ? Denmark, hence the Danish spelling of the Jürgens/Jürgensen name. I am willing to share family records. Thank you for your time. Respectfully M. Juergens Christensen - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM
Date: 2007/09/06 21:56:42
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, butcher, innerer Damm (this is a street in Oldenburg), marital son of Ludwig Braun (he is dead already in 1887 = weiland = erstwhile ?), Eigner in Peterkau (I am not sure - I think he owns a farm in Peterkau), parish Sommerau in West Prussia and Karoline, nee Behrend (she is dead already in 1887 = weiland), born in Peterkau 14.9.1858 andMeta Margareta Galdas, marital daughter of Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer (kind of farmer, not very rich) in Lintel and Beta Margarethe, nee Osterloh, born 21.8.1860 in Lintel. Greetings, Andrea Korbanka> From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Writer Beta - Veröffentlichen Sie Multimediainhalte in Ihrem Blog! http://get.live.com/betas/writer_betas
Date: 2007/09/06 22:17:17
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>
Andrea, Thanks once again...you've been so very kind. Very truly yours, Pattie Campbell > From: akorbanka(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:55:29 +0100> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun - Translation> > > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, butcher, innerer Damm (this is a street in Oldenburg), marital son of Ludwig Braun (he is dead already in 1887 = weiland = erstwhile ?), Eigner in Peterkau (I am not sure - I think he owns a farm in Peterkau), parish Sommerau in West Prussia and Karoline, nee Behrend (she is dead already in 1887 = weiland), born in Peterkau 14.9.1858 andMeta Margareta Galdas, marital daughter of Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer (kind of farmer, not very rich) in Lintel and Beta Margarethe, nee Osterloh, born 21.8.1860 in Lintel. Greetings, Andrea Korbanka> From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l> _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live Writer Beta - Veröffentlichen Sie Multimediainhalte in Ihrem Blog!> http://get.live.com/betas/writer_betas> Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
Date: 2007/09/07 17:22:50
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen. Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.
Schönen Abend Klaus
----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden, Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen,
get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.
Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.
Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen könnte?
Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
Viele Grüße Traute Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2007/09/07 19:31:09
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Thanks Annette
Date: 2007/09/07 19:31:14
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
Thanks Annette
Date: 2007/09/07 20:07:30
From: Jenifer Nelson <jenifernel(a)msn.com>
Albert KUESTER-1849-
Julius Carl Bernard KUESTER-1853-
parents; Christriech Frederick Kuester-1809
Doreatha Caroline Swinke-1829-married 1845
Came to America from Hamburg in 1856.
Thank you, Annette
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From: Annette Sweetman<mailto:bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: [OL] 1811 to 1870 Visbek records
Hello
For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek
1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I
can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to
this post. Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the
Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use
their machines, please put your replies as close to the following as
possible to make this easy for me:
Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested
information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:
_Birth Records 1811 to 1841_
(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME,
father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name
_Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_
(date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first
name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name
_Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _
(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME,
father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name
Thanks
Annette
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Date: 2007/09/07 21:26:10
From: Carol Sanman <springkitten(a)mac.com>
Hi, Could you please check for Bernard Trame born Jan. 1836. And Henry Trame born before then.
Carol On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Annette Sweetman wrote:
Hello
For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek 1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to this post. Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use their machines, please put your replies as close to the following as possible to make this easy for me:
Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:
_Birth Records 1811 to 1841_
(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name
_Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_
(date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first
name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name
_Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _
(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name
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Date: 2007/09/08 22:24:43
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen. Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.
Schönen Abend Klaus
----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden, Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen,
get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.
Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.
Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen könnte?
Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
Viele Grüße Traute Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2007/09/08 23:14:11
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date? Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland..." Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once. Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage? Proclamation? Something else? I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on the CD, but I haven't found it. Thanks for your help. Marilyn
Date: 2007/09/09 01:50:07
From: Jens-Peter Schütte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
Hi, Marilyn,
below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e. (t) indicates not baptized. Therefore, in case of your example, born, but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized July 27, 1792 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland.
Genealogic Symbols:
* born G divorced
u illegitimately born died
x stillborn v killed in action in war
gs died on day of birth b buried t baptized ♀ female
≈ confirmed ♂ male
K married (in church)
H married (at registrars office)
In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me know.
Have a nice week-end
Peter Schütte
mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb: Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Date: 2007/09/09 02:47:13
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
* - Born ~ - Baptized ≈ or oo - Married † - Died Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried
Here's an online legend: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:
Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage? Proclamation? Something else?
I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on the CD, but I haven't found it.
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Date: 2007/09/09 12:20:57
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Thank you Ronald, I think we must check the Oythe church books for marriage. Werner > There are a few BRUNS in the Oythe Churchbook. I transcribed the entries > through 1746. > Page Child Father Mother > 33 1675 Feb 24 Maragaretha Arnold Bruns Geiseke Weddiks > 35 1676 May 0 Tereca Arendbus Bruns Geseca Weddick > 39 1677 Dec 26 Maria Arnold Bruns Geske Bruns > 42 1679 Sep 4 Anna Arnold Bruns Gesina Bruns > 50 1681 Sep 20 Catherina Arnold Bruns Geske Webing > 59 1687 Jan 25 Joes Arnold Leurent Geseca Bruns > 70 1692 Apr 18 Helena Heinrich Bruns Geiseke Weideke > 111 1712 Oct 13 Maria Henrich Sander Phenenn Bruns > Ronald J Repking > Repkingron(a)aol.com > Flossmoor, Illinois > In a message dated 9/6/07 9:00:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > bubs(a)nc.rr.com > writes: > I saw some Bruns in the Visbek churchbook 1811-1841, but I didn't have > the first name when I was looking and when I got home I saw that the > first name was different than the one you are looking for? Did you see > these other Bruns? I can recheck when I go back. > Annette > Cherlyn Bruns wrote: >> Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger >> >> Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give. >> >> We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns >> and >> Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to >> search >> frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the >> language >> barrier could be part of the problem. >> >> I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me. They gave me > the >> original information which opened up an area to research. >> >> Regards >> Cherlyn Bruns >> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200 >> From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> >> Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas >> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net >> Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org >> Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Hello Annette, >> >> Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his >> ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns. >> We assume, that >> >> Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie >> Bruns. >> >> but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have >> changed the name to Bruns. >> Please keep your eyes for this marriage record. >> >> Thank you, >> Werner >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> This found Ludger von Husen: >> >> >> Bruns, Johann Bernd >> P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes >> farm > in >> Langfoerden) >> oo Bruns, Anne Marie >> Kinder (children): >> 1. Heinrich Joseph >> * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): >> Henrich Joseph >> - some more after this >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Oldenburg-L mailing list >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> >> > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > _http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l_ > (http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l) > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2007/09/09 20:50:06
From: Karen Daniels <danhill74(a)hotmail.com>
Date: 2007/09/09 21:55:44
From: Lothar Schernewski <lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de>
Hallo
An alle Forscher in Oldenburg und Umgebund
die in Ost- und Westpreußen forschen.
Aus Platzgründen muß ich mich leider von Vereinsschriften
trennen und gebe diese n u r an Selbstabholer kostenlos ab.
K e i n Postversand. Ich wohne im Ammerland 30 Km von
Oldenburg (Oldbg)
Folgende Bände liegen vor:
Altpreußische Geschlechterkunde,
Familienarchiv (Grüne Bände)
Band Nr. 16 bis Band Nr. 26
Altpreußische Geschlechterkunde,
Neue Folge (Gelbe Bände)
Band Nr. 24 bis Band Nr. 37
Sonderschriften des Vereins
(Graue Bände)
Band Nr. 88/2 ; Nr. 89 ; Nr. 92 ; Nr. 94 ; Nr. 97 ; Nr. 99 ;
Nr. 103 ; Nr. 104 ;.
Quellen, Materialien und Sammlungen
QMS (Blaue Bände)
Band 6 ; Einwanderer aus Franken nach Ostpreußen.
Band 8 ; Die Kartei Schulz.
Band 10 ; Ostpreußische Archivalien in der litauischen
Akademie in Vilnius
Band 12 ; "Ortelsburger Zeitung" Personalkundliche
Auswertung der Jahrgänge 1842 bis 1809
Band 13 ; Militärpersonen im Kreis Allenstein
1842 bis 1869.
Interessenten bitte ich um Nachricht wegen
eventueller Terminabsprache über meine E-Mail:
lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de
MfG
Lothar
Date: 2007/09/09 22:42:43
From: Ferdinand Müsker <ferdinand.muesker(a)ewetel.net>
Hallo Listenfreunde, ich suche weitere Daten zu folgenden Personen: Johann Heinrich Wilhelm FINUP geb. 08.12.1871 in Steinhausersiel / Bockhorn Friedrich August FINUP geb. 20.09.1873 Steinhausersiel / Bockhorn Hermann Heinrich FINUP geb. 25.01.1838 Schortens sein Großvater Johann Hinrich FINUP Moorwarfer Gast Wer kann helfen? Es dankt Ferdinand Müsker
Date: 2007/09/10 18:03:02
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Karen, I'm suspect that the Sack family lived in Oldenburg area, because Marienmünster is about 200 miles far away in Westphalia between Detmold and Holzminden. There is also a catholic church St.Jacobus. Sack is a very common name in whole Germany, and regarding "Beesten" is a concentration to the Netherland border. Regards, Werner Honkomp > I would be very grateful for any information on obtaining on the family of > Fridaman Wilhelm Ludwig SACK, who lived in Oldenburg c 1819 with his wife > Antonetta Von Beesten, and children > Ferdnandine, Carolina, Eduard and Philip SACK. Are there any census > available for this time period? I > believe he was an antemann there. The family were catholic, but had their > children baptised at > St Jacobus in Marienmunster. > I am also interested in anything on the Von Beesten family. > Thank you for any help you can give! > Karen Daniels > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/
Date: 2007/09/10 21:23:56
From: Lothar Schernewski <lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de>
Hallo Marlies Die Schriften sind heute am Morgen schon weggegangen. MfG Lothar
Date: 2007/09/11 16:00:06
From: ahprovence <ahprovence(a)aol.com>
I am searching for information on my Stolle family.? They are from the vicinity of Delmenhorst (between Oldenburg and Bremen).? Here is what I know so far: ? Hermann Stolle, Branntweinbrenner (brandy maker)? * 1748 place unknown ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?+ 23 Nov. 1811? Delmenhorst ? his wife: Adelheid Sophie Stolle *1770 place unknown ???????????????????????????????????????????? + 1 Mar. 1837 Delmenhorst Children:???? Sophie Catharine Stolle? *1784? ???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo Hinrich Wedemeier/Wedemeyer 17 Mar 1814 ????????????????????????????????????????????????? + 8 Dec 1849 Delmenhorst ???????????????? Gesina Elisabeth Stolle? * 1792 ???????????????????????????????????????????????? + 24 Apr 1871 Delmenhorst ???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo ? ???????????????? Marie Johanne Stolle?? *1799 ????????????????????????????????????????????????+ 30 May 1848 Delmenhorst ????????????????????????????????????????????????? oo? ???????????????? Friedericke Dorothee Stolle? * 1802 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3 Aug 1807 Delmenhorst ??????????????? Johann Gerhard Stolle, Landgericht ????????????????????????????????????????? * 1803? ?????????????????????????????????????????? + 10 Oct 1876 St. Louis, MO ????? (He, his second wife Meta, and at least two of his children emigrated to America.) ???? Can anyone add to this? ???? M. F.G.,?? ?? Nicole Wedemeyer Miller ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Date: 2007/09/12 01:28:56
From: Bill HINTE <whinte(a)froggy.com.au>
I am searching for information on my Stolle family.? They are from the vicinity of Delmenhorst (between Oldenburg and Bremen).? Here is what I know so far:
? Hermann Stolle, Branntweinbrenner (brandy maker)? * 1748 place unknown
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?+ 23 Nov. 1811? Delmenhorst
? his wife: Adelheid Sophie Stolle *1770 place unknown ???????????????????????????????????????????? + 1 Mar. 1837 Delmenhorst
Children:???? Sophie Catharine Stolle? *1784?
???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo Hinrich Wedemeier/Wedemeyer 17 Mar 1814
????????????????????????????????????????????????? + 8 Dec 1849 Delmenhorst
???????????????? Gesina Elisabeth Stolle? * 1792 ???????????????????????????????????????????????? + 24 Apr 1871 Delmenhorst ???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo ?
???????????????? Marie Johanne Stolle?? *1799 ????????????????????????????????????????????????+ 30 May 1848 Delmenhorst ????????????????????????????????????????????????? oo?
???????????????? Friedericke Dorothee Stolle? * 1802
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3 Aug 1807 Delmenhorst
??????????????? Johann Gerhard Stolle, Landgericht
????????????????????????????????????????? * 1803?
?????????????????????????????????????????? + 10 Oct 1876 St. Louis, MO
????? (He, his second wife Meta, and at least two of his children emigrated to America.)
???? Can anyone add to this?
???? M. F.G.,??
?? Nicole Wedemeyer Miller
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Date: 2007/09/12 11:51:35
From: Harald Tobias <harald.tobias(a)gmx.net>
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Date: 2007/09/12 17:05:29
From: Peter Bardischewski <peter.bardischewski(a)online.de>
Liebe Forscherfreunde, in meiner AL habe ich folgende Namen, für die ich gerne weitere Verbindungen finden würde: Johann Meyer (Schiffskapitän) * 08.09.1809 Klippkanne in Oldenburg Sohn des Johann Meyer und seiner Ehefrau Maria Auguste geb. Carstens Sohn: August Theodor Meyer 17.01.1847 Friedrichstadt (Schleswig-Holstein) Viele Grüße Peter (Bardischewski)
Date: 2007/09/12 17:57:58
From: mtkmam <mtkmam(a)insightbb.com>
I was looking for some information on Dietrich G. Koehne born around 1901 came to the U.S. in 1924 and settled in central Illinois.I think his fathers name was August.Any help would be greatly appricated!
Date: 2007/09/13 16:47:17
From: Michael Miller <michaelmiller1340(a)alltel.net>
Marilyn,
Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but the
date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know the
birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to you.
Sandra
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200
From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Hallo Klaus,
k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in Hannover
und Diepholz befinden?
Danke f?r die M?he.
Viele Gr??e
Traute
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
Hallo Traute,
Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.
Sch?nen Abend
Klaus
----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10
Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
>
> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
>
> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalf?rden,
> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
>
> T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu
> Schweringhausen,
> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.
>
> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.
>
> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en
> k?nnte?
>
> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
>
> Viele Gr??e
> Traute
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Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: mstulken(a)wi.net
Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
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Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Hi, Marilyn,
below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic
lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e.
(t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example, ?born,
but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized July 27, 1792 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
Genealogic Symbols:
* born G divorced
u illegitimately born ? died
x stillborn
v killed in action in war
gs died on day of birth b
buried t
baptized ♀ female
≈ confirmed ♂ male
K married (in church)
H married (at registrar?s office)
In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me
know.
Have a nice week-end
Peter Sch?tte
mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb: Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~
indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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* - Born
~ - Baptized
? or oo - Married
? - Died
Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried
Here's an online legend:
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:
It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other
source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.
I think the (~) must mean illegitimate. My reference says that (*)
means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth
entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry. So I would assume that
means an illegitimate birth.
mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:
> Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
>
> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
>
> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
>
> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
> Proclamation? Something else?
>
> I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
> the CD, but I haven't found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Marilyn
>
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Date: 2007/09/13 17:17:56
From: Heinz Wiemann <Heinz.Wiemann(a)gmx.de>
Marilyn,
Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but the
date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know the
birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to you.
Sandra
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200 From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de> Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <001701c7f256$4928d330$3701a8c0(a)oemc55b5cfdb81> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original
Hallo Klaus,
k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in Hannover
und Diepholz befinden?
Danke f?r die M?he. Viele Gr??e Traute ----- Original Message ----- From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
Hallo Traute,
Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen. Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.
Sch?nen Abend Klaus
----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalf?rden, Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen, get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.
Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.
Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en k?nnte?
Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
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Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage? Proclamation? Something else?
I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on the CD, but I haven't found it.
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Message: 3 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de> Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD? To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <405550.88412.qm(a)web27101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi, Marilyn,
below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic
lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e.
(t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example, ?born,
but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized July 27, 1792 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
Genealogic Symbols:
* born G divorced
u illegitimately born ? died
x stillborn
v killed in action in war
gs died on day of birth b
buried t
baptized ♀ female
≈ confirmed ♂ male
K married (in church)
H married (at registrar?s office)
In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me know.
Have a nice week-end
Peter Sch?tte
mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb: Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage? Proclamation? Something else? Thanks for your help. Marilyn
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500 From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org> Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD? To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <46E34281.70600(a)HarfstFamily.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
* - Born ~ - Baptized ? or oo - Married ? - Died Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried
Here's an online legend: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:
It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.
I think the (~) must mean illegitimate. My reference says that (*) means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry. So I would assume that means an illegitimate birth.
mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on the CD, but I haven't found it.
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn
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Date: 2007/09/13 22:03:34
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Thank you, kindly, Heinz! I'm going to print out your message and keep in on hand. These CDs are so puzzling. On the Varel one, I open a folder marked "OFB" to get to the list of names. On the Jade one, I finally discovered I could get to the names by opening a folder marked "A4." As they say around here, "go figure!" I appreciate your help. Best wishes, Marilyn > Hello Marilyn, > > just in case, no one has explained the genealogical symbols yet (I just > returned from my vacation, and found Sandra's response to your question): > > If you open the "Ortsfamilienbuch Jade" - CD, you can click on "OFB Jade > Screen" > A menue opens, and you can click in the section "Einführung" on > "Genealogische Zeichen und Abkürzungen". > The corresponding page opens, and you will find all signs, and > abbreviations > explained (in german). > > Kind Regards > > > Heinz > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Miller" <michaelmiller1340(a)alltel.net> > To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD > > >> >> Marilyn, >> >> Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch >> Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but >> the >> date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know >> the >> birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will >> clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to >> you. >> >> Sandra >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net >> [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of >> oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net >> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:00 AM >> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net >> Subject: Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 46, Issue 10 >> >> >> Send Oldenburg-L mailing list submissions to >> oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> oldenburg-l-owner(a)genealogy.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Oldenburg-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Margrethe Else Hussmann (Traute Buck) >> 2. Symbols in Jade CD? (mstulken(a)wi.net) >> 3. Re: Symbols in Jade CD? (Jens-Peter Sch?tte) >> 4. Re: Symbols in Jade CD? (David Harfst) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200 >> From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de> >> Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann >> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> >> Message-ID: <001701c7f256$4928d330$3701a8c0(a)oemc55b5cfdb81> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hallo Klaus, >> >> k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in >> Hannover >> und Diepholz befinden? >> >> Danke f?r die M?he. >> Viele Gr??e >> Traute >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de> >> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann >> >> >> Hallo Traute, >> >> Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen. >> Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner >> Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz. >> >> Sch?nen Abend >> Klaus >> >> >> ----- Original Nachricht ---- >> Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> >> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> >> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 >> Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann >> >>> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer, >>> >>> wer kann mir weiterhelfen? >>> >>> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu >>> Schmalf?rden, >>> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15 >>> >>> T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu >>> Schweringhausen, >>> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden. >>> >>> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau >>> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen. >>> >>> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en >>> k?nnte? >>> >>> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe. >>> >>> Viele Gr??e >>> Traute >>> Oldenburg-L mailing list >>> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >>> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >>> >> >> Viel oder wenig? Schnell oder langsam? Unbegrenzt surfen + telefonieren >> ohne Zeit- und Volumenbegrenzung? DAS TOP ANGEBOT F?R ALLE NEUEINSTEIGER >> Jetzt bei Arcor: g?nstig und schnell mit DSL - das All-Inclusive-Paket >> f?r clevere Doppel-Sparer, nur 34,95 ? inkl. DSL- und >> ISDN-Grundgeb?hr! >> http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-dsl-2 >> Oldenburg-L mailing list >> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT) >> From: mstulken(a)wi.net >> Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD? >> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> >> Message-ID: <50933.209.225.97.63.1189285293.squirrel(a)wm.wi.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism >> date? >> >> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: >> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in >> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..." >> >> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? >> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once. >> >> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." >> (The >> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that >> marriage? >> Proclamation? Something else? >> >> I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on >> the CD, but I haven't found it. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST) >> From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de> >> Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD? >> To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> >> Message-ID: <405550.88412.qm(a)web27101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> >> >> Hi, Marilyn, >> >> below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in >> genealogic >> lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, >> i.e. >> (t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example, >> ?born, >> but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized July 27, 1792 in >> Wiefelstede, Ammerland?. >> Genealogic Symbols: >> >> * born G divorced >> u illegitimately born ? died >> x stillborn >> v killed in action in war >> gs died on day of birth b >> buried t >> baptized ♀ female >> ≈ confirmed ♂ >> male >> K married (in church) >> H married (at registrar?s office) >> >> In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me >> know. >> >> Have a nice week-end >> >> Peter Sch?tte >> >> >> >> mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb: Am I correct in understanding that the symbol >> ~ >> indicates a baptism date? >> >> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following: >> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in >> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..." >> >> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? >> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once. >> >> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." >> (The >> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that >> marriage? >> Proclamation? Something else? >> Thanks for your help. >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Wissenswertes zum Thema PC, Zubeh?r oder Programme.BE A BETTER >> INTERNET-GURU! >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500 >> From: David Harfst <G