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Re: [OL] Surnames and Maiden Names

Date: 2007/09/01 15:51:22
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

Hi Juergen
I don't have one yet - but it I do, I'll email you. Thank you!
Annette

Juergen Drees wrote:
Hello Annette,

Annette Sweetman wrote:
I have 2 Visbek Church Book records in question:

Heiko already answered your questions. Just in case you ever happen to find a Luesse (Lüsse) surname in your family tree, please let me know. My Lüsse ancestors origin from Visbek / Astrup area.



Kind regards,


Juergen

[OL] Bruins

Date: 2007/09/01 20:11:02
From: Ettie Lisa <ede_jonge_de_roos(a)hotmail.com>

beste Mitglieder 

Is er vielleicht ein

er die etwas kan sagen uber Meindert Jans Schaep in Oldenburg er heirate 2-5-1779 in Weener mit Haike Roelfs van Weener Croiger.
Dieses ehepar sind mijne vorfather ich hoffe er ist jemand die mich kan helfen.

Herzlich Dank

Ettie de Jonge  

Re: [OL] Origin of Ahlers Surname

Date: 2007/09/03 22:26:49
From: Richard C. Ehlers <rcehlers(a)gate.net>

Heiko,
I appreciate your response to my inquiry on the origin of the surname Ahlers as being a patronym of Ahlert from Adelhart = "edel + hart" = "noble + hard/stern", which I was aware of. Now where does the "noble" come from? Is it very interesting that King Harald Hardrade (= "The Hard") is the Viking that ruled all of this Northern region at ancient times! Please look up the historian "Adam Of Bremen" for some references on the web!
As to whether Vikings ever settled where they raided, one has only to mention places like Normandy, York, Dublin and most of all, down the Dneiper to Kiev where they put the Rus in Russia!
I offer these thoughts to find the real meaning of our unique surnames and thereby our descendency, as I hope you appreciate!
Best Regards,
Richard


Re: [OL] Origin of Ahlers Surname

Date: 2007/09/03 23:00:36
From: Richard C. Ehlers <rcehlers(a)gate.net>

Heiko, Ich schätze Ihre Antwort zu meiner Anfrage auf dem Ursprung des Familiennameen Ahlers als seiend ein patronym von Ahlert von Adelhart = "edel + Hart" = "Adliger + hard/stern", das ich berücksichtigte. Von jetzt wo der "Adlige", der gekommen wird? Ist es sehr interessant, daß König Harald Hardrade (= "das harte") das Viking ist, das die ganze diese Nordregion zu den alten Zeiten anordnete! Schauen Sie bitte oben den Historiker "Adam von Bremen" als etwas Referenzen auf dem Netz!
Ob Vikings überhaupt vereinbarte, wo sie überfielen, hat man, Plätze wie Normandie, York, Dublin und am allermeisten, hinunter das Dneiper nach Kiew nur zu erwähnen, in dem sie das Rus in Rußland einsetzen! Ich biete diese Gedanken an, um die reale Bedeutung unserer einzigartigen Familiennameen zu finden und dadurch unser descendency, da ich hoffe, schätzen Sie!
Bester Respekt, Richard


[OL] Origin of Stulken surname?

Date: 2007/09/03 23:06:37
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

I've been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERS—names that
until now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more.

Now, I'm wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken.  I
don't know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it.

Thank you kindly,
Marilyn

Re: [OL] Origin of Stulken surname?

Date: 2007/09/04 01:50:25
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>

 

According to "German Names" by Hans Bahlow - 

Stü(c)ken (quite  frequent in Hamburg); compare to Stulleke Hamburg around 
1375, Johan Stulle  Hamburg 1394.  For Stölcke(n) compare to Herman Stolleke, 
Soest 1318.
 

Ronald J Repking
Flossmoor, Illinois

In a message dated 9/3/07 4:07:10 PM Central Daylight Time, mstulken(a)wi.net  
writes:

I've  been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERS—names that
until  now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more.

Now, I'm  wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken.  I
don't  know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it.

Thank  you kindly,
Marilyn

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Re: [OL] Origin of Stulken surname?

Date: 2007/09/04 06:36:18
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

Thank you, Ronald!

Marilyn
>
>
> According to "German Names" by Hans Bahlow -
>
> Stü(c)ken (quite  frequent in Hamburg); compare to Stulleke Hamburg
> around
> 1375, Johan Stulle  Hamburg 1394.  For Stölcke(n) compare to Herman
> Stolleke,
> Soest 1318.
>
>
> Ronald J Repking
> Flossmoor, Illinois
>
> In a message dated 9/3/07 4:07:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
> mstulken(a)wi.net
> writes:
>
> I've  been reading the posts on the surnmames EHLERS and AHLERS—names
> that
> until  now I considered to be simple patronyms, nothing more.
>
> Now, I'm  wondering if anyone knows more about my surname: Stulken.  I
> don't  know that it's a patronym, but I know nothing further about it.
>
> Thank  you kindly,
> Marilyn
>
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[OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Date: 2007/09/04 13:10:06
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>

Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,

wer kann mir weiterhelfen?

Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden, Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15

Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen, get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.

Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.

Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen könnte?

Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.

Viele Grüße
Traute

[OL] Heuermann oder Hoyermann

Date: 2007/09/04 18:00:47
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>

Liebe Mäuse, liebe Listen-Teilnehmer,

könnt ihr mir weiterhelfen? Folgende Daten fehlen mir noch:

Jost Hinrich HOYERMANN (*........, +.........../Ort) geb. GRONEMEIER. Er oo am ....................../Ort Rebecca Maria Bockhorn (*........, +.........../Ort). 

Der Sohn Johann Harm HEUERMANN *18.04.1770, Scholen, + ..............., oo 04.12.1801 in Scholen mit Marie Dorothee LAMPEN (*........, +.........../Ort). 

Deren Sohn, Hinrich Christian Dietrich HEUERMANN (*23.10.1802 in Scholen oo 04.11.1825, Scholen Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS (Auszug aus dem Kirchenregister).

Handschriftlich ist noch auf einem Zettel vermerkt:

1790: Johann Joachim Hoyermann, Ottendorf
1770, 10. März: +Großmutter Anna Katarine Jürgensen
1757, 18. Nov.: Großvater John. Jürgensen, Vater von
1757, 18. Dez.: + Daniel Mathias Jürgensen
1740, 24. Aug.: ist Joh. Joachim Hoyermann geb.
1740, 17. Nov.: Margaretha Elisabeth Hoyermann geb. Kifferts
1768, 26. Juli: oo Joh. Joachim Hoyermann und Margaretha Elisabeth Kifferts
1813, 18. Januar: Sohn Joh. Henning Hoyermann, + 10 Jahre 2 Monate 11 Tage
1820, 4. Mai: ............... ist Schwiegermutter ........................ Hoyermann geb. Seifert, +78 Jahre 7 Monate 15 Tage
1843, 26. Febr: ...................... Frau Anna Rebecka Dorothea geb. Harms, +75 Jahre 20 Tage.

Ich weiß auch nicht, wo ich Johann Joachim Hoyermann unterbringen soll.

Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn ihr mir da weiterhelfen könntet.

Viele Grüße

Traute


Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Date: 2007/09/04 21:21:34
From: klaus . wrede <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>

Hallo Traute,

Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Schönen Abend
Klaus 


----- Original Nachricht ----
Von:     Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
An:      Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum:   04.09.2007 13:10
Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
> 
> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
> 
> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden,
> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
> 
> Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen,
> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.
> 
> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.
> 
> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen
> könnte?
> 
> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
> 
> Viele Grüße
> Traute
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[OL] Vorankündigung Seminar zur Kirchenbuchverka rtung - Die OSFA stellt ein neues deutsches Programm vor .

Date: 2007/09/04 21:34:53
From: Claudia <Claudia(a)j-t.de>

Hallo Listies,

am Samstag, dem 17. November findet ein Seminar zur
Kirchenbuchverkartung im Hotel Waldesruh in Osnabrück /
Georgsmarienhütte statt.

Der Arbeitskreis Familienforschung Osnabrück (OSFA) freut sich, Ihnen
das Programm zur Kirchenbuchverkartung erstmalig im deutschsprachigen
Raum vorstellen zu können.

In gemeinschaftlicher Arbeit mit dem bekannten Programmautor Gisbert
Berwe ist ein speziell für die Kirchenbuchverkartung entwickeltes Modul
zur zeilenweisen Eingabe der Kirchenbuchdaten entstanden. Auf einem
Bildschirm sind Kirchenbuch und Eingabemaske ideal miteinander
kombiniert und ermöglichen beste Verarbeitungsbedingungen. Alle
denkbaren Zusatzinformationen werden aufgenommen und verarbeitet. Als
Ergebnis ist die Ausgabe eines kompletten Ortsfamilienbuches ohne
zusätzliche Arbeitsschritte möglich. Die Basis des Programms bildet das
bereits weithin bekannte Programm " Gen_Plus" des Programmautors.

In der ganztägigen Schulung werden wir die Kirchenbuchverkartung im
Rahmen der EDV besprechen. Das Programm wird uns vom Programmautor
Gisbert Berwe vorgestellt.
Auf dem eigenen PC werden die Funktionen des Programms erlernt, das
Zusammenspiel mit der Kirchenbuchdarstellung und die Funktionen der
Datenbanken erklärt.
Das Genealogieprogramm Gen-Plus ist die Grundlage der Datenverarbeitung
und wird ebenfalls ein wesentlicher Teil des Seminars sein.

Für Mittagessen sowie Kaffee und Kuchen sorgt wie immer Familie Plate
und ihr Hotelteam.  Rechtzeitig zum Seminar geben wir die Agenda bekannt.


Eine frühzeitige Anmeldung (besonders für Übernachtungswünsche) erleichtert uns die Planung.


Wir freuen uns auf eine rege Teilnahme

für die OSFA

Claudia Janßen-Timmen und Bernhard Struckmann

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[OL] Adolph Braun

Date: 2007/09/04 21:59:15
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>

Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people?  In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born.  He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg.  He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later.  Adolph died in May 1916.  I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown.
My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army.  Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents?
Thanks for your time.
Pattie   
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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun

Date: 2007/09/04 22:28:12
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>

Hi Pattie!You know the marriage date in Oldenburg of your couple. If you can find someone to look up this record in the church records of Oldenburg - normally the town of birth is remarked in it.
 
Greetings from Schwaben,
Andrea> From: pcamp952(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:59:06 -0400> Subject: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people? In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born. He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg. He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later. Adolph died in May 1916. I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown.> My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army. Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents?> Thanks for your time.> Pattie 
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 04:04:10
From: Steve Hellmann <stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com>

My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.

Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.

Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?

Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my
ancestors?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks
Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas


> Hi
> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
> village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
> -Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
> Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
> Annette
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 15:17:54
From: Christopher Grote <cgrote(a)rush.edu>

Steve,

If you google "Germany telephone book" or like terms you'll get some hits
that allow you to type in the name of a German town and a last name.

That's how I found my long lost relatives in Visbek/Erlte.

Good luck,

Chris
Chicago (originally Cincinnati)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:10 PM
To: Oldenburg-L
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.

Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.

Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?

Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my
ancestors?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks
Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas


> Hi
> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
> village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
> -Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
> Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
> Annette
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> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 15:31:43
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

Hi
I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet. I just received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know! I've only had a moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone? I remembered it because Varnhorn is also a place.
Annette


Steve Hellmann wrote:
My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.

Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.

Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?

Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my
ancestors?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks
Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY

----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas



Hi
I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek. What exactly is Visbek? A
village? A group of villages? How is it related to Visbek -
Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
-Siedenbogen, -Endel. Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
Oldenburg encompass all of these? Thanks
Annette
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 18:16:15
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hello Annette,

Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that

Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie Bruns.

but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.

Thank you,
Werner


-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:


Bruns, Johann Bernd
Pächter auf Wilmes Stätte zu Langförden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
    * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------

> Hi
> I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet.    I just
> received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family
> Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year
> range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know!   I've only had a
> moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a
> Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone?  I remembered it
> because Varnhorn is also a place.
> Annette

> Steve Hellmann wrote:
>> My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.
>>
>> Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
>> Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.
>>
>> Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
>> Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?
>>
>> Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married
>> my
>> ancestors?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
>> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
>> Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
>>> village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
>>> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
>>> -Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
>>> Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
>>> Annette
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Re: [OL] Heuermann oder Hoyermann

Date: 2007/09/05 18:28:19
From: marge christensen <margechristensen(a)netzero.net>

Hello, I read your email posted on the Oldenburg-L and I recognized some of
your ancestory...I have a Matthias Jürgens aka Jürgensen born in Oldenburg
in the year 1781.  Is he a part of your ancestory?  I have the documentation
for his marriage to Anne Maria Gerhardine Holzen.  This couple was married
on 18 Aug 1816 in Oldenburg.  Matthias was born in Naestved ? Denmark, hence
the Danish spelling of the Jürgens/Jürgensen name.   I am willing to share
family records .  Thank you for your time.  Respectfully M. Juergens
Christensen

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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 20:30:34
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

No problem, I'll look next time I go.
Was Heinrich Joseph Bruns birth in Visbek?
Annette

Werner Honkomp wrote:
Hello Annette,

Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that

Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie Bruns.

but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.

Thank you,
Werner


----------------------------------------------------------- This found Ludger von Husen:


Bruns, Johann Bernd Pächter auf Wilmes Stätte zu Langförden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden) oo Bruns, Anne Marie Kinder (children): 1. Heinrich Joseph * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): Henrich Joseph - some more after this --------------------------------------------------------------

Hi
I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet. I just
received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family
Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year
range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know! I've only had a
moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a
Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone? I remembered it
because Varnhorn is also a place.
Annette

Steve Hellmann wrote:
My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.

Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.

Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?

Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married
my
ancestors?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Thanks
Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas



Hi
I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
-Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/05 21:43:41
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Check this phone directory:

http://www1.dastelefonbuch.de/?la=en&cmd=banner&cx=&cy=&sp=58&sp=58&aktion=11

Good luck,
Werner Honkomp


> My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.

> Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
> Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.

> Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in Visbek,
> Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?

> Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married my
> ancestors?

> Thanks in advance for any help.

> Thanks
> Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
> Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas


>> Hi
>> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
>> village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
>> Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
>> -Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
>> Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
>> Annette
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Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas

Date: 2007/09/06 03:33:29
From: Steve Hellmann <stevehellmann(a)insightbb.com>

Annette

My great grand mother Anna Katharina (nee Varnhorn) Hellmann born 01/08/1870
in Oythe.
Anna's father Friedrich August Varnhorn born 01/11/1834 in Lutten
Anna's mother Maria Elisabeth (nee Themann) Varnhorn born 07/03/1833 in
Lutten

So far I have 4 children
Maria Elisabeth Varnhorn    born 06/14/1862 in Oythe, Germany
Josephine Elisabeth Varnhorn     born 12/25/1866 in Oythe, Germany
Anna Katharina Varnhorn      born 01/08/1870 in Oythe, Germany
Maria Bernhardine Varnhorn     born 08/12/1873 in Oythe, Germany

Anna married Johann Josef Hellmann
Josephine married Arnold Joseph Hellmann

Johann and Arnold were 1st cousins.

Thanks
Steve Hellmann of Edgewood, KY

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From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas


> Hi
> I don't have a Hellmann or Varnhorn in my database yet.    I just
> received the Visbek church records from 1810 to 1875 at our LDS Family
> Center - it will probably give me a few more of my people for that year
> range and possibly a connection - I'll let you know!   I've only had a
> moment to look at the records so far and I'm almost sure I saw a
> Varnhorn in the records - how far back have you gone?  I remembered it
> because Varnhorn is also a place.
> Annette
>
> Steve Hellmann wrote:
> > My ancestors are from Visbek, Rechterfeld, Oythe and possibly Varnhorn.
> >
> > Hellmann from Visbek, Oythe, and Rechterfeld.
> > Varnhorn from Oythe and Lutten.
> >
> > Would someone help see if any Hellmann and Varnhorn still live in
Visbek,
> > Rechterfeld, Oythe and Varnhorn?
> >
> > Annette Sweetman any chance we could be related. Your ancestors married
my
> > ancestors?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Steve Hellmann from Edgewood, KY
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Annette Sweetman" <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>
> > To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31 PM
> > Subject: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi
> >> I've found many of my ancestors from Visbek.  What exactly is Visbek? A
> >> village? A group of villages?  How is it related to Visbek -
> >>
Wostendollen, -Varnhorn, -Norddollen, -Erlte, -Hogenbogen, -Rechterfeld,
> >> -Siedenbogen, -Endel.  Are Vestrup and Astrup also villages? Does
> >> Oldenburg encompass all of these?  Thanks
> >> Annette
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[OL] Vechta versus Visbek

Date: 2007/09/06 14:37:52
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

Hello

I have just one further question on Visbek versus Vechta and areas there in the 1800's...
I'm looking through the Family History Library church records for Visbek:


Title Kirchenbuch, 1651-1875

Authors Katholische Kirche Visbek (AG. Vechta) (Main Author)

Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths and confirmations for Visbek, Oldenburg, Germany.


Why is it listed with an (AG. Vechta)?


Thanks everyone for such a helpful list!
Annette

(thanks Heidi for the map!)

[OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Date: 2007/09/06 15:49:36
From: Cherlyn Bruns <cbruns(a)linkcity.org>

Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.  

We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns.  Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns.  We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem. 

I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me.  They gave me the
original information which opened up an area to research.

Regards
Cherlyn Bruns
 


Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org
Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hello Annette,

Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his
ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that

Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie
Bruns.

but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.

Thank you,
Werner


-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:


Bruns, Johann Bernd
P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in
Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
    * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------


Re: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Date: 2007/09/06 15:58:24
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

I saw some Bruns in the Visbek churchbook 1811-1841, but I didn't have the first name when I was looking and when I got home I saw that the first name was different than the one you are looking for? Did you see these other Bruns? I can recheck when I go back.
Annette


Cherlyn Bruns wrote:
Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.

We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns. Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns. We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem.


I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me.  They gave me the
original information which opened up an area to research.

Regards
Cherlyn Bruns



Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200 From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de> Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hello Annette,

Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his
ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that

Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie
Bruns.

but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.

Thank you,
Werner


----------------------------------------------------------- This found Ludger von Husen:


Bruns, Johann Bernd P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in Langfoerden) oo Bruns, Anne Marie Kinder (children): 1. Heinrich Joseph * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers): Henrich Joseph - some more after this --------------------------------------------------------------


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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun

Date: 2007/09/06 17:33:29
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>

Hi Andrea and thanks.
I think someone told me that there was a fire in the late 1800's and that records were destroyed.  Do you know if this fire was at St. Lamberti?  
Thanks.
Pattie



> From: akorbanka(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:28:03 +0100> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > > Hi Pattie!You know the marriage date in Oldenburg of your couple. If you can find someone to look up this record in the church records of Oldenburg - normally the town of birth is remarked in it.> > Greetings from Schwaben,> Andrea> From: pcamp952(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:59:06 -0400> Subject: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Did Oldenburg have a register that was kept showing the comings and goings of people? In doing research in Norway, you had to register if you were leaving an area and also state your destination.I ask as we cannot identify where my great grandfather Adolph Braun was born. He somehow shows up in Oldenburg, marries Meta Galdas on November 14, 1887 at Church St. Lamberti in Oldenburg. He leaves Oldenburg in 1890 and settles in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. His wife Meta and their young son arrive in Philadelphia a short time later. Adolph died in May 1916. I obtained a copy of his death certificate and it states his father's name was Ludwig but his mother's maiden name is listed as unknown.> My Aunt mentioned that Adolph might have been in the Prussian Army. Any ideas on how I might track down where Adolph was born and his parents?> Thanks for your time.> Pattie > _________________________________________________________________> Schnell, einfach und kostenlos auf Windows Live™ Hotmail umsteigen!> http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/14811??PS=> Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Re: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Date: 2007/09/06 20:16:33
From: von Husen <von-husen(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Cherlyn,

die Ehe des Johan Bernd Bruns mit Anne Marie Bruns ist nicht in Visbek
geschlossen worden, wie mir Ludger Kock mitteilte, der die Visbeker
Kirchenbücher verkartet.

Gruß 

Ludger von Husen

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Cherlyn Bruns
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. September 2007 15:51
An: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can give.  

We did search Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
Anna Marie Bruns.  Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
frame by frame for any Bruns.  We did not find ours but think the language
barrier could be part of the problem. 

I appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me.  They gave me the
original information which opened up an area to research.

Regards
Cherlyn Bruns
 


Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek towns and areas
To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
Cc: cbruns(a)linkcity.org
Message-ID: <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hello Annette,

Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of the parents of his
ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
We assume, that

Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek to Anna Marie
Bruns.

but Cheryl could not find it at the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
changed the name to Bruns.
Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.

Thank you,
Werner


-----------------------------------------------------------
This found Ludger von Husen:


Bruns, Johann Bernd
P?chter auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm in
Langfoerden)
oo Bruns, Anne Marie
Kinder (children):
1. Heinrich Joseph
    * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~ 28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
Henrich Joseph
- some more after this
--------------------------------------------------------------


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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun

Date: 2007/09/06 20:25:54
From: GDiers9488 <GDiers9488(a)aol.com>

Hello Pattie,
the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following  marriage:
 
14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig  
Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland  
Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und
Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der  
Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in  Lintel.
 
You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in  
Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.
 
Regards
Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society



   

[OL] Bruins

Date: 2007/09/06 20:43:06
From: Ettie Lisa <ede_jonge_de_roos(a)hotmail.com>

Hello

I am Ettie de Jonge fom Assen, Holland and look for my forparents with te name Bruins. 
Meindert Bruins came to Beerta in Holland and marryd Epke Edens. His father are Rolf Meinderts from Weener and his Father Meindert Jans Schaep from Oldenburg.
Are ther people the nowe there is a place in the near of Oldenburg by the name Schaep.?

Mayby er is someone the can look for me in Oldenburg for the parents of Meindert Jans Schaep van Oldenburg. Bruuns, he marryd  to Haike Roelfs from Weener.

Thank you so much 

Ettie de Jonge

Re: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Date: 2007/09/06 21:01:29
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>

 
There are a few BRUNS in the Oythe Churchbook.  I transcribed the  entries 
through 1746.
 
Page                    Child             Father                 Mother
 33 1675  Feb  24 Maragaretha Arnold    Bruns    Geiseke Weddiks
35 1676  May   0  Tereca      Arendbus  Bruns    Geseca  Weddick
39 1677  Dec  26  Maria       Arnold     Bruns   Geske   Bruns
42 1679  Sep    4 Anna        Arnold     Bruns   Gesina  Bruns
50 1681  Sep  20  Catherina   Arnold    Bruns    Geske   Webing
59 1687  Jan  25  Joes        Arnold    Leurent  Geseca  Bruns
70 1692  Apr  18  Helena      Heinrich  Bruns   Geiseke  Weideke
111 1712  Oct  13 Maria        Henrich   Sander  Phenenn Bruns
 
 
Ronald J  Repking
Repkingron(a)aol.com
Flossmoor, Illinois

 
In a message dated 9/6/07 9:00:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  bubs(a)nc.rr.com 
writes:

I saw  some Bruns in the Visbek churchbook 1811-1841, but I didn't have 
the first  name when I was looking and when I got home I saw that the 
first name was  different than the one you are looking for?  Did you see  
these  other Bruns? I can recheck when I go back.
Annette

Cherlyn Bruns  wrote:
> Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger
>
> Thank you in  advance for any assistance you can give.  
>
> We did search  Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns and
> Anna Marie  Bruns.  Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to search
>  frame by frame for any Bruns.  We did not find ours but think the  language
> barrier could be part of the problem. 
>
> I  appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me.  They gave me  
the
> original information which opened up an area to  research.
>
> Regards
> Cherlyn Bruns
>   
>
>
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
> From:  Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
> Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek  towns and areas
> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
> Cc:  cbruns(a)linkcity.org
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>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hello  Annette,
>
> Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of  the parents of his
> ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
> We assume,  that
>
> Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek  to Anna Marie
> Bruns.
>
> but Cheryl could not find it at  the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
> changed the name to  Bruns.
> Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
>
>  Thank you,
> Werner
>
>
>  -----------------------------------------------------------
> This found  Ludger von Husen:
>
>
> Bruns, Johann Bernd
> P?chter  auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes farm 
in
>  Langfoerden)
> oo Bruns, Anne Marie
> Kinder (children):
>  1. Heinrich Joseph
>     * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~  28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
> Henrich Joseph
> -  some more after this
>  --------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun

Date: 2007/09/06 21:12:17
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Gerold,
THANKS!!!
Could I bother you to translate the entire record for me? 
Again, thanks so very much.
Pattie



> From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Re: [OL] Heuermann oder Hoyermann

Date: 2007/09/06 21:36:27
From: marge christensen <margechristensen(a)netzero.net>

Hello, sorry I mistyped a piece of data:  Matthias Jurgens was born in
Denmark about 1781.  Matthias married Anne Marie Gerhardine Holzen on 18 Aug
1816 in Oldenberg. Matthias was born in Naestved ? Denmark, hence
the Danish spelling of the Jürgens/Jürgensen name.   I am willing to share
family records. Thank you for your time.
Respectfully M. Juergens Christensen

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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun - Translation

Date: 2007/09/06 21:56:42
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>

14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, butcher, innerer Damm (this is a street in Oldenburg), marital son of Ludwig Braun (he is dead already in 1887 = weiland = erstwhile ?), Eigner in Peterkau (I am not sure - I think he owns a farm in Peterkau), parish Sommerau in West Prussia and Karoline, nee Behrend (she is dead already in 1887 = weiland), born in Peterkau 14.9.1858 andMeta Margareta Galdas, marital daughter of Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer (kind of farmer, not very rich) in Lintel and Beta Margarethe, nee Osterloh, born 21.8.1860 in Lintel. Greetings, Andrea Korbanka> From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Re: [OL] Adolph Braun - Translation

Date: 2007/09/06 22:17:17
From: Pattie Campbell <pcamp952(a)hotmail.com>

Andrea,
Thanks once again...you've been so very kind.
Very truly yours,
Pattie Campbell



> From: akorbanka(a)hotmail.com> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:55:29 +0100> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun - Translation> > > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, butcher, innerer Damm (this is a street in Oldenburg), marital son of Ludwig Braun (he is dead already in 1887 = weiland = erstwhile ?), Eigner in Peterkau (I am not sure - I think he owns a farm in Peterkau), parish Sommerau in West Prussia and Karoline, nee Behrend (she is dead already in 1887 = weiland), born in Peterkau 14.9.1858 andMeta Margareta Galdas, marital daughter of Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer (kind of farmer, not very rich) in Lintel and Beta Margarethe, nee Osterloh, born 21.8.1860 in Lintel. Greetings, Andrea Korbanka> From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:25:41 -0400> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [OL] Adolph Braun> > Hello Pattie,> the church records of the town of Oldenburg show the following marriage:> > 14.11.1887 Adolf Braun, Schlachtermeister, innerer Damm, des weiland Ludwig > Braun, Eigner in Peterkau, Kirchspiel Sommerau in Westpreußen und der weiland > Karoline geb. Behrend ehelicher Sohn, geboren daselbst 14. 8. 1858 und> Meta Margareta Galdas, des Berend Galdas, Brinksitzer in Lintel, und der > Beta Margarete geb. Osterloh eheliche Tochter, geboren 21.8.1860 in Lintel.> > You see, Adolf Braun came from West Prussia, while his wife was born in > Lintel, parish of Hude, Oldenburg.> > Regards> Gerold Diers, Oldenburg Genealogical Society> > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l> _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live Writer Beta - Veröffentlichen Sie Multimediainhalte in Ihrem Blog!> http://get.live.com/betas/writer_betas> Oldenburg-L mailing list> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Date: 2007/09/07 17:22:50
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Klaus,

danke für den Hinweis. Sag mal, hast du auch Verwandte in Meyenburg? Ich bin gerade dabei die Buck-Familie zu aktualisieren und dabei stieß ich auf diese Verbindung: Johann Hinrich Buck *06.04.1874 in Meyenburg +13.12.1957 in Meyenburg, oo am 03.11.1901 in Meyenburg mit Meta Gesine Auguste WREDE *01.02.1874 in Meyenburg.

Viele Grüße
Traute
----- Original Message ----- From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann



Hallo Traute,


Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Schönen Abend
Klaus


----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,

wer kann mir weiterhelfen?

Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden,
Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15

Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen,
get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.


Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.

Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen
könnte?

Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.

Viele Grüße
Traute
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[OL] 1811 to 1875 Visbek records

Date: 2007/09/07 19:31:09
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

Hello

For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek 1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to this post. Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use their machines, please put your replies as close to the following as possible to make this easy for me:

Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:

_Birth Records 1811 to 1841_

(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


_Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_


(date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name


_Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _


(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


Thanks Annette

[OL] 1811 to 1870 Visbek records

Date: 2007/09/07 19:31:14
From: Annette Sweetman <bubs(a)nc.rr.com>

Hello

For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek 1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to this post. Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use their machines, please put your replies as close to the following as possible to make this easy for me:

Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:

_Birth Records 1811 to 1841_

(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


_Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_


(date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name


_Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _


(date of birth or date range) first name -- FATHER'S SURNAME, father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


Thanks Annette

Re: [OL] 1811 to 1870 Visbek records

Date: 2007/09/07 20:07:30
From: Jenifer Nelson <jenifernel(a)msn.com>

Albert KUESTER-1849-
Julius Carl Bernard KUESTER-1853-
parents; Christriech Frederick Kuester-1809
                 Doreatha Caroline Swinke-1829-married 1845 
Came to America from Hamburg in 1856.
  Thank you, Annette
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Annette Sweetman<mailto:bubs(a)nc.rr.com> 
  To: Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> 
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:30 PM
  Subject: [OL] 1811 to 1870 Visbek records


  Hello

  For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek 
  1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I 
  can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to 
  this post.  Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the 
  Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use 
  their machines,  please put your replies as close to the following as 
  possible to make this easy for me:
   
  Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested 
  information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:

  _Birth Records 1811 to 1841_

      (date of birth or date range) first name  -- FATHER'S SURNAME, 
  father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


  _Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_

      (date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first 
  name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name


  _Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _

      (date of birth or date range) first name  -- FATHER'S SURNAME, 
  father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


  Thanks
  Annette
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Re: [OL] 1811 to 1870 Visbek records

Date: 2007/09/07 21:26:10
From: Carol Sanman <springkitten(a)mac.com>

Hi,
Could you please check for Bernard Trame  born Jan. 1836.
And Henry Trame born before then.

Thanks you.

Carol
On Sep 7, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Annette Sweetman wrote:

Hello

For a week or two I have access to the records for the parish Visbek
1811-1870, and I may have time to look up some other people's info. I
can't guarantee anything, but if you are interested, please reply to
this post.  Because I have a 2 and 4 year old and I can't get to the
Family History Center that often and because it costs me money to use
their machines,  please put your replies as close to the following as
possible to make this easy for me:

Copy the following headings and for each person put the requested
information under correct heading and in all caps for last names:

_Birth Records 1811 to 1841_

    (date of birth or date range) first name  -- FATHER'S SURNAME,
father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


_Marriage Records 1811 to 1841_


(date of marriage or date range) --- GROOMS'S SURNAME, groom's first
name --- BRIDES's SURNAME, bride's first name



_Birth Records 1840 to 1870 _


    (date of birth or date range) first name  -- FATHER'S SURNAME,
father's first name --- MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME, mother's first name


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Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Date: 2007/09/08 22:24:43
From: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Klaus,

könntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenbücher in Hannover und Diepholz befinden?

Danke für die Mühe.
Viele Grüße
Traute
----- Original Message ----- From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann



Hallo Traute,


Groß-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenbücher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Schönen Abend
Klaus


----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,

wer kann mir weiterhelfen?

Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalförden,
Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15

Täufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu Schweringhausen,
get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalförden.


Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Großen-Bessen oder -Lessen.

Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort heißen
könnte?

Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.

Viele Grüße
Traute
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[OL] Symbols in Jade CD?

Date: 2007/09/08 23:14:11
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? 
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
 Proclamation?  Something else?

I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn

Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?

Date: 2007/09/09 01:50:07
From: Jens-Peter Schütte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>

  

  Hi, Marilyn,
   
  below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e. (t) indicates “not baptized”. Therefore, in case of your example,  “born, but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized  July 27, 1792 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland”. 
                              Genealogic Symbols:
   
  *         born                                        G       divorced
  u       illegitimately born                       †        died
  x            stillborn                                                             v            killed in action in war
  gs           died on day of birth                                 b        buried                                                        t         baptized                                    &#9792;       female
  &#8776;       confirmed                                 &#9794;       male                      
  K                   married (in church)
  H        married (at registrar’s office)
    
  In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me know.
   
  Have a nice week-end
   
  Peter Schütte
   


mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb:  Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? 
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn


       
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Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?

Date: 2007/09/09 02:47:13
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>

* - Born
~ - Baptized
≈ or oo - Married
† - Died
Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried

Here's an online legend:
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:

It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.

I think the (~) must mean illegitimate. My reference says that (*) means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry. So I would assume that means an illegitimate birth.

mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:
Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date? Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
 Proclamation?  Something else?

I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn

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Re: [OL] Bruns in DEINDRUP

Date: 2007/09/09 12:20:57
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Thank you Ronald,
I think we must check the Oythe church books for marriage.
Werner


> There are a few BRUNS in the Oythe Churchbook.  I transcribed the  entries
> through 1746.

> Page                    Child             Father                 Mother
>  33 1675  Feb  24 Maragaretha Arnold    Bruns    Geiseke Weddiks
> 35 1676  May   0  Tereca      Arendbus  Bruns    Geseca  Weddick
> 39 1677  Dec  26  Maria       Arnold     Bruns   Geske   Bruns
> 42 1679  Sep    4 Anna        Arnold     Bruns   Gesina  Bruns
> 50 1681  Sep  20  Catherina   Arnold    Bruns    Geske   Webing
> 59 1687  Jan  25  Joes        Arnold    Leurent  Geseca  Bruns
> 70 1692  Apr  18  Helena      Heinrich  Bruns   Geiseke  Weideke
> 111 1712  Oct  13 Maria        Henrich   Sander  Phenenn Bruns


> Ronald J  Repking
> Repkingron(a)aol.com
> Flossmoor, Illinois


> In a message dated 9/6/07 9:00:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> bubs(a)nc.rr.com
> writes:

> I saw  some Bruns in the Visbek churchbook 1811-1841, but I didn't have
> the first  name when I was looking and when I got home I saw that the
> first name was  different than the one you are looking for?  Did you see
> these  other Bruns? I can recheck when I go back.
> Annette

> Cherlyn Bruns  wrote:
>> Hello Annette, Werner, Ludger
>>
>> Thank you in  advance for any assistance you can give.
>>
>> We did search  Visbek and Langforden for marriage of Johan Bernd Bruns
>> and
>> Anna Marie  Bruns.  Because we do not read German or Latin, we had to
>> search
>>  frame by frame for any Bruns.  We did not find ours but think the
>>  language
>> barrier could be part of the problem.
>>
>> I  appreciate all that Werner and Ludger have done for me.  They gave me
> the
>> original information which opened up an area to  research.
>>
>> Regards
>> Cherlyn Bruns
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:17:52 +0200
>> From:  Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
>> Subject: Re: [OL] Visbek  towns and areas
>> To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
>> Cc:  cbruns(a)linkcity.org
>> Message-ID:  <MOu4Ye1z7GHdjtBtkGi3FLkbeG1h0ZkgKQK1x2VapBz(a)akmail>
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Hello  Annette,
>>
>> Cheryl Bruns in the States search for the marriage of  the parents of his
>> ancestor Heinrich Joseph Bruns.
>> We assume,  that
>>
>> Johann Bernd Bruns married between 1810 - 1814 in Visbek  to Anna Marie
>> Bruns.
>>
>> but Cheryl could not find it at  the LDS films, maybe Johann Bernd have
>> changed the name to  Bruns.
>> Please keep your eyes for this marriage record.
>>
>>  Thank you,
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>  -----------------------------------------------------------
>> This found  Ludger von Husen:
>>
>>
>> Bruns, Johann Bernd
>> P?chter  auf Wilmes St?tte zu Langf?rden (Tenant farmer on the Wilmes
>> farm
> in
>>  Langfoerden)
>> oo Bruns, Anne Marie
>> Kinder (children):
>>  1. Heinrich Joseph
>>     * 27.05.1814 Deindrup; ~  28.05.1814 Langfoerden (Gev.(Godfathers):
>> Henrich Joseph
>> -  some more after this
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[OL] SACK / VON BEESTEN

Date: 2007/09/09 20:50:06
From: Karen Daniels <danhill74(a)hotmail.com>

I would be very grateful for any information on obtaining on the family of Fridaman Wilhelm Ludwig SACK, who lived in Oldenburg c 1819 with his wife Antonetta Von Beesten, and children
Ferdnandine, Carolina, Eduard and Philip SACK. Are there any census available for this time period? I
believe he was an antemann there. The family were catholic, but had their children baptised at
St Jacobus in Marienmunster.


I am also interested in anything on the Von Beesten family.

Thank you for any help you can give!

Karen Daniels

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[OL] Schriften des Vereins f.Fam.-Forsch. Os t - Westpreußen

Date: 2007/09/09 21:55:44
From: Lothar Schernewski <lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de>

  
Hallo 
An alle Forscher in Oldenburg und Umgebund
die in Ost- und Westpreußen forschen.
Aus Platzgründen muß ich mich leider von Vereinsschriften 
trennen und gebe diese  n u r  an Selbstabholer kostenlos ab.
K e i n Postversand. Ich wohne im Ammerland 30 Km von 
Oldenburg (Oldbg)
Folgende Bände liegen vor:

Altpreußische Geschlechterkunde, 
   Familienarchiv   (Grüne Bände)
    Band Nr. 16  bis Band Nr. 26

Altpreußische Geschlechterkunde,
   Neue Folge   (Gelbe Bände)
Band Nr. 24  bis Band Nr. 37

Sonderschriften des Vereins
       (Graue Bände)
Band Nr. 88/2 ; Nr. 89 ; Nr. 92 ; Nr. 94 ; Nr. 97 ; Nr. 99 ;
Nr. 103 ; Nr. 104 ;.

Quellen, Materialien und Sammlungen 
            QMS   (Blaue Bände)
Band  6 ; Einwanderer aus Franken nach Ostpreußen.
Band  8 ; Die Kartei Schulz.
Band 10 ; Ostpreußische Archivalien in der litauischen
               Akademie in Vilnius
Band 12 ; "Ortelsburger Zeitung" Personalkundliche
               Auswertung der Jahrgänge 1842 bis 1809
Band 13 ; Militärpersonen im Kreis Allenstein
                             1842 bis 1869.

Interessenten bitte ich um Nachricht wegen 
eventueller Terminabsprache über meine E-Mail:  
lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de
MfG
Lothar

[OL] FINUP

Date: 2007/09/09 22:42:43
From: Ferdinand Müsker <ferdinand.muesker(a)ewetel.net>

Hallo Listenfreunde,
ich suche weitere Daten zu folgenden Personen:

Johann Heinrich Wilhelm FINUP
geb. 08.12.1871 in Steinhausersiel / Bockhorn

Friedrich August FINUP
geb. 20.09.1873 Steinhausersiel / Bockhorn

Hermann Heinrich FINUP
geb. 25.01.1838 Schortens

sein Großvater
Johann Hinrich FINUP Moorwarfer Gast

Wer kann helfen?

Es dankt
Ferdinand Müsker

Re: [OL] SACK / VON BEESTEN

Date: 2007/09/10 18:03:02
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hello Karen,
I'm suspect that the Sack family lived in Oldenburg area, because Marienmünster is about 200 miles far away in Westphalia between Detmold and Holzminden. There is also a catholic church St.Jacobus.
Sack is a very common name in whole Germany, and regarding "Beesten" is a concentration to the Netherland border.
Regards,
Werner Honkomp

> I would be very grateful for any information on obtaining on the family of
> Fridaman Wilhelm Ludwig SACK, who lived in Oldenburg c 1819 with his wife
> Antonetta Von Beesten, and children
> Ferdnandine, Carolina, Eduard and Philip SACK.  Are there any census
> available for this time period?  I
> believe he was an antemann there.  The family were catholic, but had their
> children baptised at
> St Jacobus in Marienmunster.

> I am also interested in anything on the Von Beesten family.

> Thank you for any help you can give!

> Karen Daniels

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[OL] Vereinsschriften

Date: 2007/09/10 21:23:56
From: Lothar Schernewski <lothar.schernewski(a)nwn.de>

Hallo Marlies 
Die Schriften sind heute am Morgen schon weggegangen.

MfG
Lothar

[OL] Stolle/Delmenhorst

Date: 2007/09/11 16:00:06
From: ahprovence <ahprovence(a)aol.com>

I am searching for information on my Stolle family.? They are from the vicinity of Delmenhorst (between Oldenburg and Bremen).? Here is what I know so far:

? Hermann Stolle, Branntweinbrenner (brandy maker)? * 1748 place unknown
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?+ 23 Nov. 1811? Delmenhorst

? his wife: Adelheid Sophie Stolle *1770 place unknown
???????????????????????????????????????????? + 1 Mar. 1837 Delmenhorst

Children:???? Sophie Catharine Stolle? *1784?
???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo Hinrich Wedemeier/Wedemeyer 17 Mar 1814
????????????????????????????????????????????????? + 8 Dec 1849 Delmenhorst

???????????????? Gesina Elisabeth Stolle? * 1792
???????????????????????????????????????????????? + 24 Apr 1871 Delmenhorst
???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo ?

???????????????? Marie Johanne Stolle?? *1799
????????????????????????????????????????????????+ 30 May 1848 Delmenhorst
????????????????????????????????????????????????? oo?

???????????????? Friedericke Dorothee Stolle? * 1802
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3 Aug 1807 Delmenhorst
??????????????? Johann Gerhard Stolle, Landgericht
????????????????????????????????????????? * 1803?
?????????????????????????????????????????? + 10 Oct 1876 St. Louis, MO
????? (He, his second wife Meta, and at least two of his children emigrated to America.)

???? Can anyone add to this?

???? M. F.G.,??

?? Nicole Wedemeyer Miller

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Re: [OL] Stolle/Delmenhorst

Date: 2007/09/12 01:28:56
From: Bill HINTE <whinte(a)froggy.com.au>

Hi Nicole.
In all probability the Die Maus Society of Bremen will have some data that may be useful.
Go To Google & put in Die Maus.


Regards Bill HINTE.
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Subject: [OL] Stolle/Delmenhorst



I am searching for information on my Stolle family.? They are from the vicinity of Delmenhorst (between Oldenburg and Bremen).? Here is what I know so far:

? Hermann Stolle, Branntweinbrenner (brandy maker)? * 1748 place unknown
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?+ 23 Nov. 1811? Delmenhorst


? his wife: Adelheid Sophie Stolle *1770 place unknown
???????????????????????????????????????????? + 1 Mar. 1837 Delmenhorst

Children:???? Sophie Catharine Stolle? *1784?
???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo Hinrich Wedemeier/Wedemeyer 17 Mar 1814
????????????????????????????????????????????????? + 8 Dec 1849 Delmenhorst


???????????????? Gesina Elisabeth Stolle? * 1792
???????????????????????????????????????????????? + 24 Apr 1871 Delmenhorst
???????????????????????????????????????????????? oo ?

???????????????? Marie Johanne Stolle?? *1799
????????????????????????????????????????????????+ 30 May 1848 Delmenhorst
????????????????????????????????????????????????? oo?

???????????????? Friedericke Dorothee Stolle? * 1802
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3 Aug 1807 Delmenhorst
??????????????? Johann Gerhard Stolle, Landgericht
????????????????????????????????????????? * 1803?
?????????????????????????????????????????? + 10 Oct 1876 St. Louis, MO
????? (He, his second wife Meta, and at least two of his children emigrated to America.)


???? Can anyone add to this?

???? M. F.G.,??

?? Nicole Wedemeyer Miller

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[OL] Digitales Bilderarchiv im Netz

Date: 2007/09/12 11:51:35
From: Harald Tobias <harald.tobias(a)gmx.net>

Moin,

in einem Artikel von Heise-Online fand ich einen Artikel über das Bundesarchiv. Möglicherweise sind dort auch genealogisch verwertbare Bilder vorhanden.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/95822

Der Original-Link:

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/


Gruß - Harald


--
harald.tobias(a)gmx.net

[OL] Klippkanne (Golzwarden) Schiffskapitän

Date: 2007/09/12 17:05:29
From: Peter Bardischewski <peter.bardischewski(a)online.de>

Liebe Forscherfreunde,

in meiner AL habe ich folgende Namen, für die ich gerne weitere Verbindungen finden würde:

Johann Meyer (Schiffskapitän)
* 08.09.1809 Klippkanne in Oldenburg
Sohn des Johann Meyer und seiner Ehefrau Maria Auguste geb. Carstens

Sohn:
August Theodor Meyer
 17.01.1847 Friedrichstadt (Schleswig-Holstein)

Viele Grüße
Peter (Bardischewski)

[OL] koehne family

Date: 2007/09/12 17:57:58
From: mtkmam <mtkmam(a)insightbb.com>

I was looking for some information on Dietrich G. Koehne born around 1901 came to the U.S. in 1924 and settled in central Illinois.I think his fathers name was August.Any help would be greatly appricated!

Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD

Date: 2007/09/13 16:47:17
From: Michael Miller <michaelmiller1340(a)alltel.net>

Marilyn,

Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but the
date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know the
birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to you.

Sandra

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200
From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Hallo Klaus,

k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in Hannover
und Diepholz befinden?

Danke f?r die M?he.
Viele Gr??e
Traute
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From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann


Hallo Traute,

Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Sch?nen Abend
Klaus


----- Original Nachricht ----
Von:     Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
An:      Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Datum:   04.09.2007 13:10
Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
>
> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
>
> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalf?rden,
> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
>
> T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu
> Schweringhausen,
> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.
>
> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.
>
> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en
> k?nnte?
>
> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
>
> Viele Gr??e
> Traute
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Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: mstulken(a)wi.net
Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
 Proclamation?  Something else?

I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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  Hi, Marilyn,

  below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic
lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e.
(t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example,  ?born,
but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized  July 27, 1792 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
                              Genealogic Symbols:

  *         born                                        G       divorced
  u       illegitimately born                       ?        died
  x            stillborn
v            killed in action in war
  gs           died on day of birth                                 b
buried                                                        t
baptized                                    &#9792;       female
  &#8776;       confirmed                                 &#9794;       male
  K                   married (in church)
  H        married (at registrar?s office)

  In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me
know.

  Have a nice week-end

  Peter Sch?tte



mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb:  Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~
indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Message-ID: <46E34281.70600(a)HarfstFamily.org>
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* - Born
~ - Baptized
? or oo - Married
? - Died
Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried

Here's an online legend:
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:

It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other
source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.

I think the (~) must mean illegitimate.  My reference says that (*)
means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth
entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry.  So I would assume that
means an illegitimate birth.

mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:
> Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?
>
> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
>
> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
>
> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
>  Proclamation?  Something else?
>
> I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
> the CD, but I haven't found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Marilyn
>
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Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD

Date: 2007/09/13 17:17:56
From: Heinz Wiemann <Heinz.Wiemann(a)gmx.de>

Hello Marilyn,

just in case, no one has explained the genealogical symbols yet (I just returned from my vacation, and found Sandra's response to your question):

If you open the "Ortsfamilienbuch Jade" - CD, you can click on "OFB Jade Screen"
A menue opens, and you can click in the section "Einführung" on "Genealogische Zeichen und Abkürzungen".
The corresponding page opens, and you will find all signs, and abbreviations explained (in german).


Kind Regards


Heinz



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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD




Marilyn,


Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but the
date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know the
birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to you.


Sandra

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  2.  Symbols in Jade CD? (mstulken(a)wi.net)
  3. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (Jens-Peter Sch?tte)
  4. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (David Harfst)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200
From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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reply-type=original

Hallo Klaus,

k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in Hannover
und Diepholz befinden?


Danke f?r die M?he.
Viele Gr??e
Traute
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From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann


Hallo Traute,


Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.

Sch?nen Abend
Klaus


----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de> An: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Datum: 04.09.2007 13:10 Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann

Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,

wer kann mir weiterhelfen?

Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu Schmalf?rden,
Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15

T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu
Schweringhausen,
get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.

Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.

Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en
k?nnte?

Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.

Viele Gr??e
Traute
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Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: mstulken(a)wi.net
Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."  (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that marriage?
Proclamation?  Something else?

I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn



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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Message-ID: <405550.88412.qm(a)web27101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1



Hi, Marilyn,

below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in genealogic
lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets, i.e.
(t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example, ?born,
but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized July 27, 1792 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
Genealogic Symbols:


* born G divorced
u illegitimately born ? died
x stillborn
v killed in action in war
gs died on day of birth b
buried t
baptized &#9792; female
&#8776; confirmed &#9794; male
K married (in church)
H married (at registrar?s office)


 In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me
know.

Have a nice week-end

Peter Sch?tte



mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb:  Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~
indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?
Thanks for your help.
Marilyn



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500
From: David Harfst <Genealogy(a)HarfstFamily.org>
Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Message-ID: <46E34281.70600(a)HarfstFamily.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

* - Born
~ - Baptized
? or oo - Married
? - Died
Small rectangle (can't do that one) - buried

Here's an online legend:
http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/FAQ_sgg#Genealogical_symbols:

It says the double wavy line indicates baptism (as does my other
source), but I've only seen it used to indicate marriage.

I think the (~) must mean illegitimate.  My reference says that (*)
means born illegitimate, but in this case, the simple is with the birth
entry, and then followed by a baptismal entry.  So I would assume that
means an illegitimate birth.

mstulken(a)wi.net wrote:
Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism date?

Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."

Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.

Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland." (The
two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that marriage?
Proclamation? Something else?


I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
the CD, but I haven't found it.

Thanks for your help.

Marilyn

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Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD

Date: 2007/09/13 22:03:34
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

Thank you, kindly, Heinz!  I'm going to print out your message and keep in
on hand.  These CDs are so puzzling.  On the Varel one, I open a folder
marked "OFB" to get to the list of names.  On the Jade one, I finally
discovered I could get to the names by opening a folder marked "A4."  As
they say around here, "go figure!"

I appreciate your help.

Best wishes,
Marilyn

> Hello Marilyn,
>
> just in case, no one has explained the genealogical symbols yet (I just
> returned from my vacation, and found Sandra's response to your question):
>
> If you open the "Ortsfamilienbuch Jade" - CD, you can click on "OFB Jade
> Screen"
> A menue opens, and you can click in the section "Einführung" on
> "Genealogische Zeichen und Abkürzungen".
> The corresponding page opens, and you will find all signs, and
> abbreviations
> explained (in german).
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
> Heinz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Miller" <michaelmiller1340(a)alltel.net>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD
>
>
>>
>> Marilyn,
>>
>> Heinz Wiemann has kindly helped me with the symbols in Ortsfamilienbuch
>> Jade. A wavy line in parenthesis means that the person was baptized but
>> the
>> date of birth was not recorded in the records. Therefore, we do not know
>> the
>> birth date of the person only the baptism date. I hope that this will
>> clarify this symbol for you. Do let me know if I can be of any help to
>> you.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
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>>   1. Re:  Margrethe Else Hussmann (Traute Buck)
>>   2.  Symbols in Jade CD? (mstulken(a)wi.net)
>>   3. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (Jens-Peter Sch?tte)
>>   4. Re:  Symbols in Jade CD? (David Harfst)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:24:39 +0200
>> From: "Traute Buck" <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
>> Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
>> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
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>>
>> Hallo Klaus,
>>
>> k?nntest du mir kurz mitteilen, wo genau sich die Kirchenb?cher in
>> Hannover
>> und Diepholz befinden?
>>
>> Danke f?r die M?he.
>> Viele Gr??e
>> Traute
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <klaus.wrede(a)arcor.de>
>> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
>>
>>
>> Hallo Traute,
>>
>> Gro?-Lessen liegt bei Sulingen, ebenso wie Klein-Lessen.
>> Gross-Lessen hat ca. 700 Einwohner
>> Kirchenb?cher liegen in Hannover und in Diepholz.
>>
>> Sch?nen Abend
>> Klaus
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Nachricht ----
>> Von:     Traute Buck <tbk43(a)gmx.de>
>> An:      Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Datum:   04.09.2007 13:10
>> Betreff: [OL] Margrethe Else Hussmann
>>
>>> Hallo, liebe Oldenburg-Listenteilnehmer,
>>>
>>> wer kann mir weiterhelfen?
>>>
>>> Geburts- und Taufregister der ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde zu
>>> Schmalf?rden,
>>> Jahrg. 1800 Seite 53 Nr. 15
>>>
>>> T?ufling: Anna Sophie Margarethe EHLERS geb. 06.04.1800 zu
>>> Schweringhausen,
>>> get. 10.04.1800 zu Schmalf?rden.
>>>
>>> Eltern: Hinr. Herrmann EHLERS zu Schweringhausen und dessen Ehefrau
>>> Margrethe Ilse HUSSMANN aus Gro?en-Bessen oder -Lessen.
>>>
>>> Diesen Ort kenne ich nicht. Hat jemand eine Idee, wie der Ort hei?en
>>> k?nnte?
>>>
>>> Ich warte voller Spannung auf eure Hilfe.
>>>
>>> Viele Gr??e
>>> Traute
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:01:33 -0500 (CDT)
>> From: mstulken(a)wi.net
>> Subject: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
>> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Message-ID: <50933.209.225.97.63.1189285293.squirrel(a)wm.wi.net>
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>>
>> Am I correct in understanding that the symbol ~ indicates a baptism
>> date?
>>
>> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
>> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
>> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
>>
>> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
>> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
>>
>> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."
>> (The
>> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.)  Is that
>> marriage?
>> Proclamation?  Something else?
>>
>> I'm sure there's an index to the symbols and abbreviations somewhere on
>> the CD, but I haven't found it.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 01:49:49 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: Jens-Peter Sch?tte <jpschuette28(a)yahoo.de>
>> Subject: Re: [OL] Symbols in Jade CD?
>> To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
>> Message-ID: <405550.88412.qm(a)web27101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi, Marilyn,
>>
>>  below, please see some of the symbols and abbreviations used in
>> genealogic
>> lists etc. To the best of my knowledge, a single wavy line in brackets,
>> i.e.
>> (t) indicates ?not baptized?. Therefore, in case of your example,
>> ?born,
>> but not baptized, July 27,1702 in Gristede, baptized  July 27, 1792 in
>> Wiefelstede, Ammerland?.
>>                              Genealogic Symbols:
>>
>>  *         born                                        G       divorced
>>  u       illegitimately born                       ?        died
>>  x            stillborn
>> v            killed in action in war
>>  gs           died on day of birth                                 b
>> buried                                                        t
>> baptized                                    &#9792;       female
>>  &#8776;       confirmed                                 &#9794;
>> male
>>  K                   married (in church)
>>  H        married (at registrar?s office)
>>
>>  In case you need any additional information, please feel free to let me
>> know.
>>
>>  Have a nice week-end
>>
>>  Peter Sch?tte
>>
>>
>>
>> mstulken(a)wi.net schrieb:  Am I correct in understanding that the symbol
>> ~
>> indicates a baptism date?
>>
>> Numerous entries in the Jade CD have something like the following:
>> ...*am 27.7.1702 (~) in Gristede, Ammerland, ~ am 27.7.1702 in
>> Wiefelstede, Ammerland..."
>>
>> Does this mean that the only birth date we have is the baptismal date?
>> Obviously, he wasn't baptized in two places at once.
>>
>> Also, this is followed by "= am 8.4.1728 in Wiefelstede, Ammerland."
>> (The
>> two parallel lines are wavy, but I can't do that here.) Is that
>> marriage?
>> Proclamation? Something else?
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Marilyn
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:46:57 -0500
>> From: David Harfst <G