oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2007-08 00077

[Hugo Schroeder <hugoschro(a)embarqmail.com>]

Re Church records in Oldenburg.

Marilyn, my experience with the church records I have used is the exact
opposite of Bill Hinte's.  I have found them to be very well kept in
comparison with those of American churches by and large.  Of course, there
were accidents--such as fires--that cause some parishes to lack records in
certain periods, but since the time when the records began, they will be
marvelously helpful to you.  Most records will contain the appropriate
dates, adding the names of both parents, the job of the parent, and if they
are not from that parish the record will very likely mention where they came
from.  I have found this to be true in records from many sections of
Germany.

The records of the Oldenburg churches, however, have not been microfilmed by
Mormons, and so are not available through your local Family History Center.
However, the OGF--Oldenburgische Gesellschaft fuer Familienkunde (a
historical society) is hard at work to make them available through CD's and
in some cases online.

The Elsfleth Church records can be obtained through Christian-Siegfried
Busing, Glashutter Weg 58, 22844 Norderstedt or possibly through the pastor
of the parish, Wilfried Giesers, Oberrege, 26931 Elsfleth.  I have received
records of the parish in the past, and have found the contact to be most
gracious in responding to my request.  Just send it to him by snail mail,
since there is not email address on the website of the OGF.

Finally, if you read German, do study the OGF website in German very
carefully.  It is chock full of aids for the researched.

Hugo Schroeder
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:40:01 -0800
From: "Bill HINTE" <whinte(a)froggy.com.au>
Subject: Re: [OL] Moorriem?
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Hi Marilyn.
                  I think you will be very lucky indeed to find records from
the 1600's, the "German nation" did not make  civil record keeping
compulsory until around the mid 1800's.I have to say even then a lot of the
"Obligation of law" was very spasmodic, country wide.

               Most Churches up until that time often only recorded
"Baptism's" to show the various higher Church officials(Bishops) the
Pastors/Ministers/Priests, were in fact doing a good job in bringing the
heathens to Christianity, not many recorded the parent's data or even the
birth date of the convert. There were some exception, although very few. One
exception that may give you some data was the records kept by
"Properties/farms/Villages" of able bodied men , eligible for service in the
army or for the service of the local "Royalty". These records are sometimes
found in the state archives in various regions, however they are rare, as
most regions were Governed  as Dukedoms or Principalities or even still
tribal as in villages? One other record that may assist you was the Tax
records for property owners, again these may be found in some state
archives, however unless you ancestor was a property owner these will not
assist.
              I scored a record that was from left field in searching for
some data, the local School still existed & had records dating back to the
late fifteen hundreds. I do not think that this one is usual in any way,
just lucky for once as the town records did not start till 1720!

                Kindest regards Bill HINTE
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Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: [OL] Moorriem?


> Hello!
>
> I have just learned that my 6-great grandfather went to Remels from
> Moorriem, which is near Elsfreth.
>
> Would Moorriem/Elsfreth be part of Oldenburg?  And, if so, how far back
> would the records for that place go?  My ancestor was born in the late
> 1600s.
>
> Thank you kindly,
> Marilyn in Wisconsin
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:50:34 EDT
From: GDiers9488(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [OL] Moorriem?
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Hello,
the old Vogtei of Moorriem in Oldenburg is made up of several parishes like
Elsfleth, Bardenfleth and Altenhuntorf. Church records for Elsfleth start as
early as 1609, Bardenfleth church records start 1606, Altenhuntorf 1691.
Look
at  _www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de_ (http://www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de)
and then at 'list of parishes'.

Good luck

Gerold Diers