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Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

Date: 2006/12/01 17:20:34
From: Christian Delhey <delhey(a)gmx.de>

Hallo Arthur,


Vielen Dank für Deinen Hinweis.

Ich hörte vor Jahren, dass ein Teil der Ostendorfs nach Amerika auswanderte
- meine Ur-Großtante Diekmann (Dinklage) erzählte einmal etwas davon.

Weißt Du vielleicht mehr?

Viele Grüße aus Münster

Mit familiären Grüßen :-)

Christian Delhey

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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Arthur.Neubauer(a)t-online.de
Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. November 2006 17:22
An: Oldenburg-L
Betreff: Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

 
> Hallo Christian,
dieser Rolf Ostendorf gehört auch zu meinen Vorfahren daher kann Dir mit
einigen Daten aushelfen.  
> 
> habe heute eine Frage Rolf OSTENDORF betreffend.  
> Ich habe von ihm leider nur das Sterbedatum und den Namen seiner Gattin
  
> 
> Todesdatum: 10.03.1718 zu Dinklage     >     * ca 1649 (r), Weber und
Häusler auf der Hörst, oo 20.04.1682 in  Dinklage, 10.03.1719 in Dinklage.
>  
> Gattin: Catharina Clara WESTENDORF
  * ca.1654 (?), in ?, + 29.09.1729 in Dinklage
Kinder:                                                                 
                             Magdalena, * 12.01.1683 in Dinklage,
+29.09.1752 in Dinklage, Ehepartner: Albert Schütte
Jan Berend, * 06.11.1688, in Dinklage, +27.03.1760 in Dinklage,         
   oo 11.01.1718 in Dinklage mit Cathrin Adelheid Prenger,  (meine
Linie)
> Das einzige Kind (was ich nicht glaube) ist in meiner Liste Rolff
Ostendorf,
> geb.: 1.11.1681 zu Dinklage, gest.: unbekannt.
Joan Roleff, * 01.11.1691, in Dinklage, + 27.03.1739 in Dinklage
> Ehegattin: Anna Margaretha HENTEMANN
Gertrud, * 08.12.1695  in Dinklage, + 18.02.1753 in Dinklage
Vorfahren von Rolf Ostendorf: 
Vater: Berend Ostendorf, * vor 1624  in Dinklage
Mutter: unbekannt 
Kinder:
Dirk, * ca 1642 in Dinlage, oo 20.04.1682 in Dinklage mit Anna Nietfeld
Rolf, * ca.1646 (siehe oben)
Eltern von Berend:                                                      
                        Vater:Hermann Ostendorf, * ca 1600 in Dinklage
hinterm Stege      Mutter: unbekannt
 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Arthur Neubauer
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Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

Date: 2006/12/01 17:54:43
From: MonikaReinhold <MonikaReinhold(a)aol.com>

Hallo Arthur, hallo Christian,
 
am 2006/10/12 und 13 suchte hier  in dieser Liste Sharon Danek geb. 
Ostendorf, USA, nach Daten über Deutsche  Vorfahren.Schaut mal in diese Mails. 
Vielleicht hilft Euch dieser Hinweis  weiter. 
Viel Erfolg 
Monika

Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage PS

Date: 2006/12/01 18:02:50
From: MonikaReinhold <MonikaReinhold(a)aol.com>

Korrektur
2006/10/11
und 
2006/10/12

Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

Date: 2006/12/01 18:45:55
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hier zwei Zufallsfunde bei ancetry.com


Name:  Joseph Ostendorf
Birth:  abt 1829
Origin:  Dinklage
Departure:  Bremen


Name:  T. D. Ostendorf
Birth:  abt 1777
Origin:  Dinklage
Departure:  Bremen
Arrival:  24 May 1837 - Baltimore

Werner Honkomp

> Hallo Arthur,


> Vielen Dank für Deinen Hinweis.

> Ich hörte vor Jahren, dass ein Teil der Ostendorfs nach Amerika
> auswanderte
> - meine Ur-Großtante Diekmann (Dinklage) erzählte einmal etwas davon.

> Weißt Du vielleicht mehr?

> Viele Grüße aus Münster

> Mit familiären Grüßen :-)

> Christian Delhey


Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/01 20:49:06
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>

This book is still available. Please contact Clemens Broering, Am Deich 15, 49610 Quakenbrueck.

greetings

Bernd

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Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:28 AM
Subject: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien



Where can I obtain a copy of the book, *Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre
Familien*?

If I cannot obtain a copy of the entire book, could someone copy some pages
for me?


Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, WA, USA
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Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/01 23:01:06
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

I'm VERY much interested in purchasing the book.  Does Clemens Broering
have email so I can make arrangements for buying it?

Thank you.
Marilyn Stulken

> This book is still available. Please contact Clemens Broering, Am Deich
> 15,
> 49610 Quakenbrueck.
>
> greetings
>
> Bernd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Kuennen" <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 3:28 AM
> Subject: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien
>
>
>> Where can I obtain a copy of the book, *Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre
>> Familien*?
>>
>> If I cannot obtain a copy of the entire book, could someone copy some
>> pages
>> for me?
>>
>> Bruce Kuennen
>> Olympia, WA, USA
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>> Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net
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Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 09:05:52
From: Scott Moceri <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>

Hello,

I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the price of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would like his address please.

Best Regards,

Mrs. Marie Moceri

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Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 10:37:38
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>

Hi,

I just called the author Clemens Bröring. The cost for the book, including dispatch to USA, will be 40$. Please send it cash to him (no cheque!). Then he will send the book back. The adress is:

Mr. Clemens Broering
Am Deich 15
49610 Quakenbrueck
Germany

greetings
Bernd

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To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien



Hello,

I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the price
of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would like
his address please.


Best Regards,

Mrs. Marie Moceri

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Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 10:48:53
From: Scott Moceri <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>

Hello,

I don't understand the symbol after the number 40. Does it mean $40, as in 40 US dollars? If so, does he understand that he may not get the "cash" if people working for the post office see it and take the money?

Regards,

Marie

----Original Message Follows----
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>
Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:36:54 +0100

Hi,

I just called the author Clemens Bröring. The cost for the book, including
dispatch to USA, will be 40$. Please send it cash to him (no cheque!). Then
he will send the book back. The adress is:

Mr. Clemens Broering
Am Deich 15
49610 Quakenbrueck
Germany

greetings
Bernd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien


> Hello, > > I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the > price > of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would > like > his address please. > > Best Regards, > > Mrs. Marie Moceri > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >

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Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 11:15:33
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>

Hi Marie,

yes it does mean 40 US dollars. Do you have another idea to send money to Germany? The change fee for a cheque is very high.

greetings
Bernd


----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien



Hello,

I don't understand the symbol after the number 40. Does it mean $40, as in
40 US dollars? If so, does he understand that he may not get the "cash" if
people working for the post office see it and take the money?


Regards,

Marie

----Original Message Follows----
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>
Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:36:54 +0100

Hi,

I just called the author Clemens Bröring. The cost for the book, including
dispatch to USA, will be 40$. Please send it cash to him (no cheque!). Then
he will send the book back. The adress is:


Mr. Clemens Broering
Am Deich 15
49610 Quakenbrueck
Germany

greetings
Bernd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien


> Hello, > > I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the > price > of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would > like > his address please. > > Best Regards, > > Mrs. Marie Moceri > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >

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Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 12:32:23
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

I never had problems with sending cash from the States to Germany.
Werner


> Hello,

> I don't understand the symbol after the number 40. Does it mean $40, as in
> 40 US dollars? If so, does he understand that he may not get the "cash"
> if
> people working for the post office see it and take the money?

> Regards,

> Marie

> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>
> Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:36:54 +0100

> Hi,

> I just called the author Clemens Bröring. The cost for the book, including
> dispatch to USA, will be 40$. Please send it cash to him (no cheque!).
> Then
> he will send the book back. The adress is:

> Mr. Clemens Broering
> Am Deich 15
> 49610 Quakenbrueck
> Germany

> greetings
> Bernd

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien


>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the
>  > price
>  > of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would
>  > like
>  > his address please.
>  >
>  > Best Regards,
>  >
>  > Mrs. Marie Moceri
>  >
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Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien

Date: 2006/12/02 12:33:20
From: F.E.R. Knetemann <e_knetemann(a)planet.nl>

Can't she just wire 40 dollars to his bankaccount? Or they can set up paypal accounts, that is usually how they do Internet transactions these days.

Hope that helps,

Emile

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernd Blömer" <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien



Hi Marie,


yes it does mean 40 US dollars. Do you have another idea to send money to
Germany? The change fee for a cheque is very high.

greetings
Bernd


----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] The book -Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien



Hello,

I don't understand the symbol after the number 40. Does it mean $40, as in
40 US dollars? If so, does he understand that he may not get the "cash"
if
people working for the post office see it and take the money?

Regards,

Marie

----Original Message Follows----
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>
Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:36:54 +0100

Hi,

I just called the author Clemens Bröring. The cost for the book, including
dispatch to USA, will be 40$. Please send it cash to him (no cheque!).
Then
he will send the book back. The adress is:

Mr. Clemens Broering
Am Deich 15
49610 Quakenbrueck
Germany

greetings
Bernd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Moceri" <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Essener Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien


> Hello, > > I am also interested in this special book. Can you please tell me the > price > of the book and who wrote it? Does Mr. Broering speak English? I would > like > his address please. > > Best Regards, > > Mrs. Marie Moceri > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >

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[OL] De La Roche/Hartung

Date: 2006/12/02 21:20:46
From: Wayne De La Roche <wwdlr(a)earthlink.net>


Ich suche Informationen ueber mein Grossvater, WILHELM DE LA ROCHE, und meine Grossmutter, HENRIETTE HARTUNG, wir in ungefähr 1870 von Oldenburg nach Amerika gekommen sind. Bitte verzeihen Sie meinem schlechten Deutsch! 

I am writing to see if anyone has any knowledge of the following husband and wife who came from Oldenburg to the United States around 1870. Their names are WILHELM DE LA ROCHE and HENRIETTE HARTUNG. Please let me know if you have any information about them or their family history. Thanks very much. 



Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

Date: 2006/12/03 11:23:10
From: Arthur . Neubauer <Arthur.Neubauer(a)t-online.de>

 "Christian Delhey" <mailto:delhey(a)gmx.de> schrieb:
> Hallo Arthur,
> 
> 
> Vielen Dank für Deinen Hinweis.
> 
> Ich hörte vor Jahren, dass ein Teil der Ostendorfs nach Amerika auswanderte
> - meine Ur-Großtante Diekmann (Dinklage) erzählte einmal etwas davon.
> 
> Weißt Du vielleicht mehr?
Nein!
 
Viele Grüße aus Freiburg
Arthur

Re: [OL] OSTENDORF aus Dinklage

Date: 2006/12/03 19:02:47
From: Manfred Gelhaus <Manfred_Gelhaus(a)web.de>

Moin Christian, 

ich hatte mit meiner Email vom 26.11.2006 versprochen, mich wieder bei Dir zu melden. Ich habe gesehen, dass unser Mitforscher Arthur Neubauer bereits weitere Daten übermittelt hat, die ich nur bestätigen kann. Als weitere Daten habe ich bei mir vermerkt:

Rolf Ostendorf, * um 1649, + 10.03.1718 heiratete Catharina Clara Westendorf am 20.04.1682

Rolff Ostendorf, * 01.11.1681 heiratete Anna Margaretha Hentemann am 22.10.1722

Johann Rudolf (Rolf) Ostendorf, * 16.12.1727 heiratete Anna Maria Schmedding, * 13.06.1729, + 26.05.1794  am 23.11.1751.

Ich selbst befinde mich zur Zeit im Umzugsstress und habe sehr wenig Zeit für das Hobby Ahnenforschung. Aufgrund meiner Pensionierung ziehe ich noch vor Weihnachten von Rheinbach zurück in meiner Heimat Visbek. Bezüglich Deiner Vorfahren Schumacher, Dieckmann ... setze ich mich im neuen Jahr wieder mit Dir in Verbindung. Bis dahin alles Gute, Frohe Weihnachten und ein Gesegnetes Neues Jahr. 

Manfred Gelhaus
Richezastr. 5
53359 Rheinbach


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[OL] Chronik: Hollwege - Geschichte eines Eschdorfes im Ammerland

Date: 2006/12/03 19:33:04
From: Dirk Oltmanns <mail(a)hollwege.com>

Hollwege - Geschichte eines Eschdorfes im Ammerland

1999 erschien die Chronik: Hollwege - Geschichte eines Eschdorfes im Ammerland. Sie umfaßt 490 Seiten mit über 150 Abbildungen und alten Karten, ist aus hochwertigem Papier hergestellt, eingebunden in einen festen Leineneinband mit Schutzumschlag.
1107 wurde Hollwege erstmals schriftlich erwähnt. Zu jener Zeit und noch am Ende des 13. Jahrhunderts war es im Besitz des westfälischen Klosters Corvey. Die Entstehung des Dorfes liegt jedoch weiter zurück. Das Buch schildert naturräumliche Gegebenheiten, vorgeschichtliche Bodenfunde und die Besiedlung Hollweges am Esch. Ortsnamen, Flur- und Familiennamen werden in ihrer Bedeutung erklärt.
Die Unterdrückung durch Adel, Kirchen und Grafen im Mittelalter wird veranschaulicht. Einblicke gibt es in das Bauerrecht, die Besitz- und Bevölkerungsstruktur, das Vertragswesen, das Zusammenleben im Dorf. Eingehend werden die wichtigsten historischen Quellen erläutert: alte Urkunden, Salbuch, Kirchenrente, Mannzahlregister, Weinkaufsprotokolle, Kirchenbücher, Testamente, Eheverträge, Schuldverschreibungen, Steuerlisten, herrschaftliche Brüche (Straffälle), alles Dokumente, die viele Einzelheiten und gelebtes Leben widerspiegeln. Für die alten Hausleute und Köter liegen Hausmarkentafeln und ausführliche Höfelisten vor. 
Weiter geht die Chronik auf die neueren Dörfer Felde, Moorburg und Hollwegerfeld ein, die lange Bestandteil der Bauerschaft waren. Es wird auch über die ehemaligen Festungsanlagen im ostfriesischen Grenzbereich berichtet, Verkehrswegen und Viehtrift, von Wilddieberei, Armenhaus und Auswanderung, von Einwohnerzahlen und Viehzählungen.
Anschaulich berichtet dieses Buch über den Dreißigjährigen Krieg, die Pest (1666 starb ein ¼ der Bevölkerung), die Dänen- und Franzosenzeit, die Teilungen der Gemeinheiten, die Eschverkoppelung, den Ersten wie Zweiten Weltkrieg, die Weimarer Zeit, die Nachkriegsjahre und vieles mehr. 
Nicht vergessen wird auch die Gegenwart mit Dorferneuerung und vielfältigem Vereinsleben. Daneben wird über die Hollweger Schule, Landwirtschaft sowie Gewerbebetriebe informiert. 
Lebhafte Erinnerungen älterer Dorfbewohner, teils in Plattdeutsch geschrieben, sind eingeflochten. Dazu lockern zahlreiche alte Abbildungen und Karten das abwechslungsreiche Werk auf.
Bisher wurden bereits über 680 Exemplare verkauft. Restexemplare lassen sich noch für 25 EUR (+Versand) erwerben unter: http://www.hollwege.com/bestell.htm, Textbeispiele gibt es unter: http://www.hollwege.com/texte.htm

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Dirk Oltmanns
www.hollwege.com

Re: [OL] De La Roche/Hartung

Date: 2006/12/04 17:06:23
From: marge christensen <margechristensen(a)netzero.net>

Hello, I have a Bertung Hartung YOB 1880 USA married to Martha Rach in the USA...any relation?  Respectfully M. Christensen





I am writing to see if anyone has any knowledge of the following husband and wife who came from Oldenburg to the United States around 1870. Their names are WILHELM DE LA ROCHE and HENRIETTE HARTUNG. Please let me know if you have any information about them or their family history. Thanks very much. 



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[OL] Digitalisierte Bücher

Date: 2006/12/09 16:45:35
From: Hildegard Brümmer <h_br(a)gmx.de>

An alle Interessierten:

Es sind noch wieder ein paar Bücher von mir digitalisiert worden. Lesbar im
PDF-Format auf CD/DVD mit dem Acobat Reader.

289 - Instruction, nach welcher Landleute ihr Thun und Lassen in
Vormundschaftssachen  1801
Instruction, nach welcher Landleute ihr Thun und Lassen in
Vormundschaftssachen einzurichten haben, für die Landleute in den
Fürstenthümern Calenberg, Göttingen, Grubenhagen und Lüneburg, auch in den
Grafschaften Hoya und Diepholz, öffentlich bekannt gemacht, vermittelst der
Königl. Churfürstl. Verordnung d. d. Hannover, den 1. May 1801. Hannover in
der Hahnschen Hofbuchhandlung. Gedruckt auf Büttenpapier.  Ca. 70 Seiten.
290 – Landesgesetze im Großherzogthum Oldenburg. 1835
Sammlung der im Großherzogthum Oldenburg als Landesgesetze geltenden
Bundes-Grundgesetze und Bundes-Beschlüsse.  190 Seiten, geschrieben in
Fraktur.
Wir Paul Friedrich August von Gottes Gnaden Großherzog von Oldenburg, Erbe
zu Norwegen, Herzog von Schleswig, Holstein, Stormarn, der Dithmarschen und
Oldenburg, Fürst von Lübek und Birkenfeld, Herr vonn Jever und Kniphausen,
Thun kund hiermit: ...... Gegeben auf dem Schlosse zu Oldenburg den 23.
Januar 1835. Inhalt kann gerne angefordert werden.

291 - Orstschaftsverzeichnis des Fürstentums Lippe – 1910
Kopien des Orstschaftsverzeichnis des Fürstentums Lippe geordnet nach der
politischen Einteilung mit den hauptsächlichen Ergebnissen der Volkszählung
vom 1. Dezbr. 1910 und mit Angabe der Zugehörigkeit der einzelnen Wohnplätze
zu staatlichen und kommznalen Verwaltungsbezirken. Herausgegeben von
Fürstlicher Regierung um Juni 1911. Detmold. Topp und Möller 1911. 80
Seiten.

292 - Familienkunde der Stader Elbmarschen. 1927 – Borstelmann
Erster Band: Familienkunde des Alten Landes von Heinrich Borstelmann,
Hamburg 1927.  Überblick über die Geschichte des Alten Landes. Quellen zur
Geschichte Altländer Familien. Die Altländer Familiennamen. Allgemeines zur
Familienkunde des Alten Landes. Bevölkerungsverhältnisse. Alter und
Verbreitung der Altländer Familiennamen bzw. Familien. Entstehung und
Bedeutung der Namen. Die Taufnamen. Namen- und Sachregister. Ca 310 Seiten.

293 - Kopien der Besoldungen, vom Jahre 1682 zur Zeit Herzog Georg Wilhelm
zu Celle

Hannover - Staats-Kalender auf das Jahr 1803
Königl. Groß-Brittannischer und Churfürstl. Braunschweig-Lüneburgischer
Staats-Kalender auf das Jahr 1803, worin das Staats-Verzeichnis der
königlichen Regierungen, und übrigen Hohen Civil- und Militair-Bedienten in
den Deutschen Ländern, nebst einem Genalogischen Verzeichnis aller
Durchlauchtigsten Hohen Häuser in Europa befindet. Mit Königl. Und
Churfürstl. Bewilligung. Lauenburg, gedruckt in der Berenbergische
Buchdruckerei, und zu bekommen bey dem Bürgermeister Meyer. Bewilligung:
Hannover, den 13. Dec. 1797. Graf von Kielmannsegge. Ca 350 Seiten. Aus dem
Originalbuch von 1803 kopiert. Einige Seiten mehrfach.

Hannover - Staats-Kalender auf das Jahr 1822
Königl. Groß-Brittannisch-Hannoverscher  Staats-Kalender auf das Jahr 1822
mit einem Vorworte. Das Staats-Verzeichnis der königlichen Regierungen, und
übrigen Hohen Civil- und Militair-Bedienten in den Deutschen Ländern, nebst
einem Genalogischen Verzeichnis aller Durchlauchtigsten Hohen Häuser in
Europa befindet. Mit Königl. Und Churfürstl. Bewilligung. Lauenburg,
gedruckt in der Berenbergische Buchdruckerei in Nienburg.  Bewilligung:
Hannover, den 13. Dec. 1797. Graf von Kielmannsegge. Ca 510 Seiten. Leider
nur digitalisiert von Kopien aus dem Originalbuch von 1822. Einige Seiten
mehrfach.

Hannover - Handbuch für die Provinz Hannover. 1876
Handbuch für die Provinz Hannover. 1876. Hannover. Klindworth´s Verlag.  865
Seiten, voll mit Informationen. Kurzausschnitt: Königliches Haus, Fürstl.
Haus Hohenzollern, Militär, Civilbehörden, Geistliche Behörden,
Georg-August-Uni zu Göttingen, Verwaltung der Staatsbahnen, Verwaltung der
Berg-, Hütten- und Salinenwerke, Münze, Bank-Anstalten, Fort-Akademie zu
Münden, Land-Gestüt zu Celle, Remonte-Depots, Königliche Schauspiele,
Post-und Telegraphen-Verw. Disciplinarkammer für Reichsbeamte, zu Hannover.
Ständische Behörden und Institute...
Alle diese Personen, welche die Ämter bekleideten sind aufgeführt. (z. B.
Hannover, Hildesheim, Lüneburg, Stade, Osnabrück, Aurich,  Bremen damals
Hannover zugehörig.) Alphabetisches Namen-Register. Genealogie der
europäischen Regentenhäuser.
Inhalt sind schon allein 14 Seiten. Unbedingt anfordern.


Geijstligheden i slesvig og holsten	 Band 1-3
	1. Buch	A-k
	2. Buch:	L-Z
	3. Buch:	Inhalt
Auflistung und Beschreibung der Pastoren in Holstein und Dänemark. Die
Bücher sind zwar in dänisch geschrieben, aber wegen der vielen deutschen
Namen gut zu verstehen.
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Nachrichten über Wetter und besondere Unglücksfälle, Krankheiten,
Geburtenzahlen, Heiraten, Todesfälle, Beförderungen von Beamten und
Militärpersonen u.a.m. Aufsätze geschichtlicher, sprachlicher,
naturwissenschaftlicher Art.

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[OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/10 22:08:50
From: Bruce Kuennen <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com>

Hello,

Could someone please check "Bauernhöfe im Amte Vechta" (or other records)
for the name Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe, b. 3.2.1710 Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, +
2.9.1779?  If found, could you please send me a copy of any pages that name
her or her ancestors.

I have recently learned that she is my great (5) grandmother, from the
information so kindly sent to me by Otto Osterkamp, from "Essener
Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien".

Thank you,

Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, Washington, USA

Re: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/11 02:58:29
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>

 
The name RUHE appears two times in the book on pages 335 and 716.  I  sent 
copies of the articles off-line.
 
Ronald J Repking
Flossmoor, Il
 
In a message dated 12/10/06 3:09:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com writes:

Hello,

Could someone please check "Bauernhöfe im Amte Vechta"  (or other records)
for the name Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe, b. 3.2.1710  Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, +
2.9.1779?  If found, could you please send me  a copy of any pages that name
her or her ancestors.

I have recently  learned that she is my great (5) grandmother, from the
information so  kindly sent to me by Otto Osterkamp, from "Essener
Bauernhoefe und ihre  Familien".

Thank you,

Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, Washington,  USA
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Re: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/11 19:10:08
From: Bernhard Struckmann <Bernhard.Struckmann(a)t-online.de>

"Bruce Kuennen" <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com> schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> Could someone please check "Bauernhöfe im Amte Vechta" (or other records)
> for the name Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe, b. 3.2.1710 Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, +
> 2.9.1779?  If found, could you please send me a copy of any pages that name
> her or her ancestors.
> 
> I have recently learned that she is my great (5) grandmother, from the
> information so kindly sent to me by Otto Osterkamp, from "Essener
> Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien".
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Bruce Kuennen
> Olympia, Washington, USA
> 
Hello Bruce,
I found the Famely Ruhe in the book from:

Otto zu Hoene 1968 San Francisco, California 
"Pastor Heinrich zu Höne und seine Familienforschung" 
ist im Teil I: "Familien in Vestrup, Hausstette und Lüsche" 
Seite 118 die Familie Ruhe behandelt. 

58. Ruhe
Zur Geschichte der Familie Zeller Ruhe in Lüsche.
I
3.11.1705 Zeller Johann Ruhe, + 27.1.1719 und Anna Katharina Schuling aus Hausstette, + 15.4.1737.
Kinder:
1. Lucia Maria, * um 1706
2. Anna, * 3.2.1710
3. Katharina, * 9.10.1712, + 13.4.1713
4. Rudolf, * 17.3.1714, + 11.9.1715
5. Gertrud, * 26.9.1717, + 2.1.1786, oo Vogt Joh. Rudolf Tabeling in Lüsche.

II
19.5.1722 Theodor Caspar Grote, jetzt Zeller Ruhe, + 9.12.1763 und Lucia Maria Ruhe, + 2.1.1775
Kinder:
1. Johann, * 28.9.1724, + 5.8.1726
2. Katharina Margaretha, * 27.7.1727, + 8.9.1796 in Dinklage, oo am 25.1.1745 Martin Tabeling, Kötter Schlaphorst in Dinklage.
3. Anna Elisabeth, * 26.04.1730
4. Joh. Rudolf, * 22.10.1732, + 12.11.1732
5. Joh. Theodor, * 1.3.1734, Zeller 
6. Joh. Caspar, * 7.1.1737, + 4.12.1795, oo am 22.9.1763 Maria Kröger, + 21.8.1709, Zeller Kröger in Lüsche.
7. Hermann, * 22.9.1739, + 19.3.1741
8. Lucia, * 2.1.1742, + 29.10.1800, oo am 12.11.1765 Kötter Gerhard Klünemann in Lüsche.

IV
2. Anna Maria Elisabeth, * 4.1.1786, + 15.10.1833, oo am 25.8.1807 Colon Georg Heinrich Alberding in Wehdel bei Badbergen
                   she is my great great grandmother, 

>From where are your name Kuennen? Is the Name from Ankum or Besten?

kindly regarts

Bernhard Struckmann

[OL] 184th General Hospital at WWII

Date: 2006/12/11 19:22:13
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

I found a passenger list of the Qeen Mary, arrival New York 9.Nov.1945.

Unit Designation: 184th General Hospital, Stat. Code UBU

This list list included:
- Honkomp Margaret M. (32), Rank 1st Lt, ASR 55, ASN N-733977, Arm on Service ANC

Can anybody explain me the list?

Thank you,
Werner
---------------------------------------------------------
Werner Honkomp                  werner(a)honkomp.de
Ziegelhofstr. 35b                    www.honkomp.de
26121 Oldenburg                 Tel: 0441-87230, Fax: 0441-883499

Re: [OL] 184th General Hospital at WWII

Date: 2006/12/11 19:59:45
From: Bob Niehaus <rniehaus(a)adelphia.net>

Werner,
I would guess that Margaret Honkomp was a nurse in the Army Nurse Corps (ANC), with her rank as First Lieutenant (an officer one grade above second Lt.), Army Service Reserve No. 55, her Army Serial No. N-733977. That is all my estimate, having served in the U.S. Army Signal Corps in 1954-1956. I believe youcan check out Margaret's record on the internet through the U.S. Army, Check through Google on the internet for US Army veterans, WW II.
Have not contacted you for a few years,m I did read of your family gatheriing and US tour through Honkomp ancestry towns here.
Merry Christmas and God's blessings,
Bob
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Subject: [OL] 184th General Hospital at WWII



I found a passenger list of the Qeen Mary, arrival New York 9.Nov.1945.

Unit Designation: 184th General Hospital, Stat. Code UBU

This list list included:
- Honkomp Margaret M. (32), Rank 1st Lt, ASR 55, ASN N-733977, Arm on Service ANC


Can anybody explain me the list?

Thank you,
Werner
---------------------------------------------------------
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[OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/12 13:51:44
From: Dr. R.P. Mouton <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>

Can anyone help me finding the forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf (Oldenburg). I am interested in his parents and grandparents from both sides. Gerhard emigrated to Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton 

Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/13 22:38:01
From: Monika von Hammel <monika.v.ha(a)ewetel.net>

Hallo,

in meinen Unterlagen habe ich folgende Geburten mit den Eltern Röpke /
Müller


Kind:       Gerardus Hieronimus
geb.         17. April 1819 Crapendorf
get.          18. April 1819 Crapendorf
Eltern.    Wilhelm Röpke, Schneider, Relig. Lutherano
                Anna Müller catholica conj.
Paten:     Joan Hieronimus Vollstedt,
                Gertrud Meyborg cons. Jörling
-----


Kind:       Franciscus Antonius
geb.        15.Januar 1825 Crapendorf
get.         17.Januar 1825 Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Ludwig Röpke Feldhüter
                Anna Müller conj.
Paten:    Anton Feigel
               Maria Gertrud Holthaus nata Wesselmann

---

Kind:     Maria Amalia Dorothea
geb.       16. Mai 1823 Crapendorf
get.        17.Mai 1823 Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Röpke, Feldhüter Reli. Lutheran
                Anna Müller conj.
Paten:    Maria Amalia Ölken nata Baumgarten
                Adolph Feigel

....

Kind:        Wilhelmus Augustus Gerhardus
geb.           24. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
get.            25. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
Eltern:        Wilhelm Röpke et
                    Anna Möller
Paten:         Clemens Aug. Holthaus,
                    Cath. Holthaus

---

Kind:        Joannes Antonius
geb.          15. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
get.           16. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
Eltern:       Wilhelm Röpke, Reli. Luth. et
                   Dorothea Müller catholica conj.
Paten:        Joann Diederich Meyborg,
                   Charlotte Kurtz cond. Müller

---
Quelle der obengenannten Daten KB Krapendorf, Offizialatsarchiv Vechta


Ferner haben wir in unsere Totenbildersammlung den Namen Röbken, Robken
vorhanden.
Vielleicht ist es ja nur eine andere schreibweise des Nachnamen.

mfg

Monika von Hammel


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From: "Dr. R.P. Mouton" <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: [OL] Ropke


> Can anyone help me finding the forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
> Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf
(Oldenburg). I am interested in his parents and grandparents from both
sides. Gerhard emigrated to Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton
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[OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/14 00:57:43
From: M <mwethington(a)comcast.net>

Hello Bruce,
Was your Anna Rouwe (Ruhe) married to Joan Theodor Albers-Ostendorf nunc gr.
Darrelman?
Marilyn Ruhe Wethington


Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:08:41 -0800
From: "Bruce Kuennen" <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe
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Hello,

Could someone please check "Bauernh?fe im Amte Vechta" (or other records)
for the name Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe, b. 3.2.1710 L?sche, Ksp. Vestrup, +
2.9.1779?  If found, could you please send me a copy of any pages that name
her or her ancestors.

I have recently learned that she is my great (5) grandmother, from the
information so kindly sent to me by Otto Osterkamp, from "Essener
Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien".

Thank you,

Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, Washington, USA

Re: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/14 03:44:21
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

Hmmm, I have Röwe/Rüwe/Rufe in Osteressen, who were also known as
Kruse at times, way back in the 17th century. I don't think they were
very particular about which name they used at the moment. The Rüwe
farm itself goes back to at least 1473. Do these Rouwe/Ruhe people
come from there?

Fred


On 12/13/06, M <mwethington(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Hello Bruce,
Was your Anna Rouwe (Ruhe) married to Joan Theodor Albers-Ostendorf nunc gr.
Darrelman?
Marilyn Ruhe Wethington


Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:08:41 -0800 From: "Bruce Kuennen" <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com> Subject: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Message-ID: <a2dd592e0612101308l4c33bb72r84b507c4d2649e08(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello,

Could someone please check "Bauernh?fe im Amte Vechta" (or other records)
for the name Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe, b. 3.2.1710 L?sche, Ksp. Vestrup, +
2.9.1779?  If found, could you please send me a copy of any pages that name
her or her ancestors.

I have recently learned that she is my great (5) grandmother, from the
information so kindly sent to me by Otto Osterkamp, from "Essener
Bauernhoefe und ihre Familien".

Thank you,

Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, Washington, USA

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[OL] Anna Ruhe (Rouwe)

Date: 2006/12/14 16:15:38
From: Bruce Kuennen <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com>

Hello,

Thanks to those of you who responded to my query about Anna Ruhe (Rouwe).
Here's what I know so far:


1. *Catharina Adelheid Hovenne* (also known as "Catharina Adelheid Hovehn") was born December 22, 1731 in Bevern, Germany and died August 13, 1778.

Father:        *Joan Theodor Hovenne* was born November 12, 1708 and died
March 28, 1791.

Mother:   2. *Anna Rouwe* (also known as "Anna Ruhe") was born February 3,
1710 in Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, Germany and died September 2, 1779.

2.  *Anna Rouwe* (also known as "Anna Ruhe") was born February 3, 1710 in
Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, Germany and died September 2, 1779.

Father: *Johann Ruhe* was born About 1685 and died January 27, 1719.

Mother:       *Anna Katharina Schuling* was born About 1687 and died April
15, 1737.



Thanks again.



Bruce Kuennen

Re: [OL] Anna Rouwe aka Anna Ruhe

Date: 2006/12/14 16:17:03
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hello Marilyn,
have you any connetion to Ruhe in Lüsche, Germany and Ruhe in Ferdinand Dubois County Indiana?
Thank you,
Werner

> Hello Bruce,
> Was your Anna Rouwe (Ruhe) married to Joan Theodor Albers-Ostendorf nunc
> gr.
> Darrelman?
> Marilyn Ruhe Wethington



Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/14 17:40:36
From: Dr. R.P. Mouton <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>

Thanks for your data on Ropke. They are relevant for further investigations. Peter Mouton
----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika von Hammel" <monika.v.ha(a)ewetel.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Ropke



Hallo,


in meinen Unterlagen habe ich folgende Geburten mit den Eltern Röpke /
Müller


Kind: Gerardus Hieronimus geb. 17. April 1819 Crapendorf get. 18. April 1819 Crapendorf Eltern. Wilhelm Röpke, Schneider, Relig. Lutherano Anna Müller catholica conj. Paten: Joan Hieronimus Vollstedt, Gertrud Meyborg cons. Jörling -----


Kind: Franciscus Antonius geb. 15.Januar 1825 Crapendorf get. 17.Januar 1825 Crapendorf Eltern: Wilhelm Ludwig Röpke Feldhüter Anna Müller conj. Paten: Anton Feigel Maria Gertrud Holthaus nata Wesselmann

---

Kind:     Maria Amalia Dorothea
geb.       16. Mai 1823 Crapendorf
get.        17.Mai 1823 Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Röpke, Feldhüter Reli. Lutheran
               Anna Müller conj.
Paten:    Maria Amalia Ölken nata Baumgarten
               Adolph Feigel

....

Kind:        Wilhelmus Augustus Gerhardus
geb.           24. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
get.            25. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
Eltern:        Wilhelm Röpke et
                   Anna Möller
Paten:         Clemens Aug. Holthaus,
                   Cath. Holthaus

---

Kind:        Joannes Antonius
geb.          15. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
get.           16. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
Eltern:       Wilhelm Röpke, Reli. Luth. et
                  Dorothea Müller catholica conj.
Paten:        Joann Diederich Meyborg,
                  Charlotte Kurtz cond. Müller

---
Quelle der obengenannten Daten KB Krapendorf, Offizialatsarchiv Vechta


Ferner haben wir in unsere Totenbildersammlung den Namen Röbken, Robken vorhanden. Vielleicht ist es ja nur eine andere schreibweise des Nachnamen.

mfg

Monika von Hammel


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To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: [OL] Ropke



Can anyone help me finding the forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf
(Oldenburg). I am interested in his parents and grandparents from both
sides. Gerhard emigrated to Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton
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Re: [OL] Anna Ruhe (Rouwe)

Date: 2006/12/14 19:43:19
From: von Husen <von-husen(a)t-online.de>

Hello Bruce,

Anna Ruhe, b. 03.02.1710 Lüsche, is my gggggggmother, Joan Theodor Hovenne
is my ggggggfather and Lucia Maria Hovenne, b. 08.01.1737 Bevern, is my
gggggmother.
The book "Einwohnerverzeichnisse (Status animarum) der Kirchspiele
Steinfeld, Lohne, Vestrup, Bakum, Vechta, Oythe, Langförden, Emstek,
Cappeln, Lindern und Essen aus dem Jahr 1703", written by Ludger Kock and
Peter Sieve (Cloppenburg 2006, S. 135) shows the family of her mother Anna
Katharina Schuling from Hausstette, Ksp. Vestrup:

Schuling
Wessel hospes 84 (aetas)
Wessel frater 54
Hempa uxor 38
Wessel filius 3
Theodorus filius 11
Anna filia 16
Arnold filius 12

Greetings

Ludger von Husen


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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 16:16
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Betreff: [OL] Anna Ruhe (Rouwe)

Hello,

Thanks to those of you who responded to my query about Anna Ruhe (Rouwe).
Here's what I know so far:


1.  *Catharina Adelheid Hovenne* (also known as "Catharina Adelheid Hovehn")
was born December 22, 1731 in Bevern, Germany and died August 13, 1778.

Father:        *Joan Theodor Hovenne* was born November 12, 1708 and died
March 28, 1791.

Mother:   2. *Anna Rouwe* (also known as "Anna Ruhe") was born February 3,
1710 in Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, Germany and died September 2, 1779.

2.  *Anna Rouwe* (also known as "Anna Ruhe") was born February 3, 1710 in
Lüsche, Ksp. Vestrup, Germany and died September 2, 1779.

Father:        *Johann Ruhe* was born About 1685 and died January 27, 1719.

Mother:       *Anna Katharina Schuling* was born About 1687 and died April
15, 1737.



Thanks again.



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Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/14 23:58:20
From: REPKINGRON <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>

 
Do you have a Reinhard Roepke (RÖPKE) born September 27, 1847?   He married 
Bernadine Westendorf and settled in Effingham County,  Illinois.
 
Ronald j Repking
Flossmoor, Il
 
In a message dated 12/13/06 3:42:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
monika.v.ha(a)ewetel.net writes:

Hallo,

in meinen Unterlagen habe ich folgende Geburten mit den  Eltern Röpke /
Müller


Kind:       Gerardus  Hieronimus
geb.         17. April 1819  Crapendorf
get.          18. April 1819  Crapendorf
Eltern.    Wilhelm Röpke, Schneider, Relig.  Lutherano
Anna  Müller catholica conj.
Paten:     Joan Hieronimus  Vollstedt,
Gertrud  Meyborg cons. Jörling
-----


Kind:        Franciscus Antonius
geb.        15.Januar 1825  Crapendorf
get.         17.Januar 1825  Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Ludwig Röpke Feldhüter
Anna Müller  conj.
Paten:    Anton Feigel
Maria Gertrud Holthaus nata  Wesselmann

---

Kind:     Maria Amalia  Dorothea
geb.       16. Mai 1823  Crapendorf
get.        17.Mai 1823  Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Röpke, Feldhüter Reli.  Lutheran
Anna  Müller conj.
Paten:    Maria Amalia Ölken nata  Baumgarten
Adolph  Feigel

....

Kind:        Wilhelmus Augustus  Gerhardus
geb.           24. Februar 1813  Crapendorf
get.            25. Februar 1813  Crapendorf
Eltern:        Wilhelm Röpke et
Anna  Möller
Paten:         Clemens Aug.  Holthaus,
Cath. Holthaus

---

Kind:         Joannes Antonius
geb.          15. Mai 1815  Crapendorf
get.           16. Mai 1815  Crapendorf
Eltern:       Wilhelm Röpke, Reli. Luth.  et
Dorothea Müller catholica conj.
Paten:        Joann  Diederich Meyborg,
Charlotte Kurtz cond. Müller

---
Quelle der  obengenannten Daten KB Krapendorf, Offizialatsarchiv Vechta


Ferner  haben wir in unsere Totenbildersammlung den Namen Röbken,  Robken
vorhanden.
Vielleicht ist es ja nur eine andere schreibweise des  Nachnamen.

mfg

Monika von Hammel


----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Dr. R.P. Mouton" <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>
To:  <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:51  PM
Subject: [OL] Ropke


> Can anyone help me finding the  forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
> Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke  (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf
(Oldenburg). I am interested  in his parents and grandparents from both
sides. Gerhard emigrated to  Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton
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Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/15 14:29:25
From: Dr. R.P. Mouton <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>

I am sorry, but there is no Reinhardt Ropke in the dutch branch. Peter Mouton
----- Original Message ----- From: <REPKINGRON(a)aol.com>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Ropke




Do you have a Reinhard Roepke (RÖPKE) born September 27, 1847?   He married
Bernadine Westendorf and settled in Effingham County,  Illinois.

Ronald j Repking
Flossmoor, Il

In a message dated 12/13/06 3:42:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
monika.v.ha(a)ewetel.net writes:

Hallo,

in meinen Unterlagen habe ich folgende Geburten mit den  Eltern Röpke /
Müller


Kind: Gerardus Hieronimus geb. 17. April 1819 Crapendorf get. 18. April 1819 Crapendorf Eltern. Wilhelm Röpke, Schneider, Relig. Lutherano Anna Müller catholica conj. Paten: Joan Hieronimus Vollstedt, Gertrud Meyborg cons. Jörling -----


Kind: Franciscus Antonius geb. 15.Januar 1825 Crapendorf get. 17.Januar 1825 Crapendorf Eltern: Wilhelm Ludwig Röpke Feldhüter Anna Müller conj. Paten: Anton Feigel Maria Gertrud Holthaus nata Wesselmann

---

Kind:     Maria Amalia  Dorothea
geb.       16. Mai 1823  Crapendorf
get.        17.Mai 1823  Crapendorf
Eltern:    Wilhelm Röpke, Feldhüter Reli.  Lutheran
Anna  Müller conj.
Paten:    Maria Amalia Ölken nata  Baumgarten
Adolph  Feigel

....

Kind:        Wilhelmus Augustus  Gerhardus
geb.           24. Februar 1813  Crapendorf
get.            25. Februar 1813  Crapendorf
Eltern:        Wilhelm Röpke et
Anna  Möller
Paten:         Clemens Aug.  Holthaus,
Cath. Holthaus

---

Kind:         Joannes Antonius
geb.          15. Mai 1815  Crapendorf
get.           16. Mai 1815  Crapendorf
Eltern:       Wilhelm Röpke, Reli. Luth.  et
Dorothea Müller catholica conj.
Paten:        Joann  Diederich Meyborg,
Charlotte Kurtz cond. Müller

---
Quelle der  obengenannten Daten KB Krapendorf, Offizialatsarchiv Vechta


Ferner haben wir in unsere Totenbildersammlung den Namen Röbken, Robken vorhanden. Vielleicht ist es ja nur eine andere schreibweise des Nachnamen.

mfg

Monika von Hammel


----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. R.P. Mouton" <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: [OL] Ropke



Can anyone help me finding the  forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke  (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf
(Oldenburg). I am interested  in his parents and grandparents from both
sides. Gerhard emigrated to  Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton
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[OL] Müller family from Großenmeer, Germany

Date: 2006/12/16 21:39:39
From: Erik Wetjen <wetjen(a)mainstaycomm.net>

Hello,
I'm looking for all family information and dates on Eilert Müller born in Großenmeer, Germany on 27 April 1836. Could someone send look up all the information on this person and his family. Thanks, Erik


[OL] Anna Ruhe descendants

Date: 2006/12/17 06:12:30
From: Bruce Kuennen <bruce.kuennen(a)gmail.com>

Hello, Ludger,

One thing I like to do when I find a distant cousin is to add his or her
ancestors to link to our common ancestor.  Could you provide the names dates
and/or places of birth, death, and marriage that link you (and your
children, if any) to Anna Ruhe?  Sources would also be appreciated, but not
necessary.

I would then enter them into my database and calculate our relationship to
each other.  Since Anna is my great(5)-grandmother, It looks like we are
approxmately sixth cousins, but I'd like to know more precisely.

I'd be happy to return the favor, with my own line to Anna in report form or
in a gedcom.

Bruce Kuennen
Olympia, Washington, USA

Re: [OL] Müller family from Großenmeer, Germany

Date: 2006/12/18 21:01:00
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>

Hello Erik!
The OGF (Oldenburgische Gesellschaft für Familienkunde) has a Auswanderer-Database:
http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/OGF/auswanderer/auswanderer.html
Your Eilert Müller is listed there.
Greetings from Schwaben, Andrea



From: "Erik Wetjen" <wetjen(a)mainstaycomm.net>
Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: [OL] Müller family from Großenmeer, Germany
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:37:19 -0600

Hello,
I'm looking for all family information and dates on Eilert Müller born in
Großenmeer, Germany on 27 April 1836.  Could someone send look up all the
information on this person and his family. Thanks, Erik

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[OL] Mueller Family from Grossenmeer, Germany

Date: 2006/12/19 01:49:30
From: Erik Wetjen <wetjen(a)mainstaycomm.net>

Hello,
I'm looking for all family information and dates on Eilert Mueller born in
Grossenmeer, Germany on 27 April 1836. Could someone send look up all the information on this person and his family. Thanks, Erik


Re: [OL] Mueller Family from Grossenmeer, Germany

Date: 2006/12/19 05:43:10
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

And while yoú're at it also send me my complete genealogy but make it
goes back to at least 1600. :-)

Fred


On 12/18/06, Erik Wetjen <wetjen(a)mainstaycomm.net> wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for all family information and dates on Eilert Mueller born in
Grossenmeer, Germany on 27 April 1836.  Could someone send look up all the
information on this person and his family. Thanks, Erik

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[OL] Ovelgönne, Theodor

Date: 2006/12/20 00:17:05
From: M <mwethington(a)comcast.net>

Hello,
Does anyone know about the parents or family of Theodor OVELGÖNNE?
Is he related to the Ovelgönne family from Addrup?
I have a copy of his holy card (death card).
It says he was born in Bevern on 5 March 1894.
He died on 17th of September serving the Fatherland in Somme in Frankreich.
It does not state the year.
I assume some time during WWI.
Thanks a lot,
Marilyn Ruhe Wethington


Re: [OL] Ovelgönne, Theodor

Date: 2006/12/20 08:55:06
From: Bernd Blömer <bernd.bloemer(a)ewetel.net>

Hi Marilyn,

Theodor Heinrich was born on 7. march 1894. Parents: Theodor Ovelgönne and Anna Maria Pleiter, Heuerleute at Fresenborg farm in Bevern. His great grandfather was born on the farm in Addrup.

greetings
Bernd
----- Original Message ----- From: "M" <mwethington(a)comcast.net>
To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:16 AM
Subject: [OL] Ovelgönne, Theodor



Hello,
Does anyone know about the parents or family of Theodor OVELGÖNNE?
Is he related to the Ovelgönne family from Addrup?
I have a copy of his holy card (death card).
It says he was born in Bevern on 5 March 1894.
He died on 17th of September serving the Fatherland in Somme in Frankreich.
It does not state the year.
I assume some time during WWI.
Thanks a lot,
Marilyn Ruhe Wethington



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Re: [OL] Ovelgönne, Theodor

Date: 2006/12/20 14:46:23
From: Jürgen Bünger <juergen-buenger(a)t-online.de>

Hello Marilyn,

Theodor Ovelgönne (Grenadier), died 21.09.1916, rests on the war graves site in Roisel (Somme,France). Final grave position: Block G of row A grave 5. 

See here:
http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/content_ergebnis_detail.asp?id=2701667&sec_id=D6A68B1A528F6793563EF00ADF8E291CC406E7B0
 
greet
Jürgen

[OL] Koch and Co Shipowners 1820-1880 period.....Lower Saxony

Date: 2006/12/20 15:11:46
From: Betty & Jim Degen <degens(a)shaw.ca>

Dear members, I am interested in any history on Koch and Co, ship owners in the period 1820 to 1880.Names of ships owned/built and history of Koch family in Lower Saxony.Thanks        James Degen

Re: [OL] Koch and Co Shipowners 1820-1880 period.....Lower Saxony

Date: 2006/12/20 17:42:56
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

Speaking of shipbuilders—does anyone have informtation on the
Stulken/Stülken company?  (I have no idea whether we're related.)

Marilyn Stulken

> Dear members, I am interested in any history on Koch and Co, ship owners
> in the period 1820 to 1880.Names of ships owned/built and history of Koch
> family in Lower Saxony.Thanks        James Degen

[OL] Ortsfamilienbuch Groß- und Klein - Berßen

Date: 2006/12/20 18:10:07
From: W Kaschta <werner.kaschta(a)gmx.de>

Liebe Mitforscher,

wer von Ihnen weiß, ob es ein Ortsfamilienbuch von Groß - bzw. Klein - Berßen gibt ?.

Mir liegt eine Anfrage von einem amerikanischen Mitforscher vor.

Zuschriften bitte direkt an  werner.kascht(a)gmx.de

Danke im voraus
Werner Kaschta

Re: [OL] Ovelgönne, Theodor

Date: 2006/12/20 20:46:34
From: Bernhard Struckmann <Bernhard.Struckmann(a)t-online.de>

"M" <mwethington(a)comcast.net> schrieb:
> Hello,
> Does anyone know about the parents or family of Theodor OVELGÖNNE?
> Is he related to the Ovelgönne family from Addrup?
> I have a copy of his holy card (death card).
> It says he was born in Bevern on 5 March 1894.
> He died on 17th of September serving the Fatherland in Somme in Frankreich.
> It does not state the year.
> I assume some time during WWI.
> Thanks a lot,
> Marilyn Ruhe Wethington
> 

Hello Marrilyn,

the father is Theodor Ovelgönne /Wösten * 22.4.1819  +10.3.1892 in Addrup, Heuermann at Fresenborg in Bevern later Eigner in Bevern

married 31.5.1892

Anna Maria Pleiter *17.9.1868 in Garrel, + 30.6.1919 in Addrup
Theodor was born 7.3.1894, he died on 17th of July 1916 serving the Fatherland in Somme in Frankreich
grandmother is 
Anna Maria Margaretha  Große Cruse *27.8.1839 in Osteressen 

Dates from the Book "Essener Bauernhöfe und ihre Familien" from Clemens Bröring.

>From where do your lastname 'Ruhe' come from?

I wish you a happy Chrismas

Bernd Struckmann



Re: [OL] Ortsfamilienbuch Groß- und Klein - Berßen

Date: 2006/12/20 22:09:19
From: Felschen <o.felschen(a)T-Online.de>

Hallo Werner,
ja, es gibt ein OFB Berßen: http://www.online-ofb.de/berssen/
MFG
Otto




"W Kaschta" <werner.kaschta(a)gmx.de> schrieb:
> Liebe Mitforscher,
> 
> wer von Ihnen weiß, ob es ein Ortsfamilienbuch von Groß - bzw. Klein - Berßen gibt ?.
> 
> Mir liegt eine Anfrage von einem amerikanischen Mitforscher vor.
> 
> Zuschriften bitte direkt an  werner.kascht(a)gmx.de
> 
> Danke im voraus
> Werner Kaschta
> 
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[OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 00:18:25
From: Mary Zarse <marygz(a)sbcglobal.net>

Hello,
Excuse my ignorance but....
an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette from Burstel. His father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).


My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?

Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken Heurel 1796.
My question is: what does Heurel stand for?

Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets confusing.

Mary Zarse
USA

Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 00:30:39
From: Joachim Ostendorf <home(a)nordstyle.de>

Hi Mary,

a "Schulhalter" is a caretaker for the school-building. He is not a teacher. 

nic greetings
Joachim Ostendorf



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mary Zarse 
  To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net 
  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:18 AM
  Subject: [OL] German words


  Hello,
  Excuse my ignorance but....
    an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette from Burstel. His  
  father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).

  My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?

  Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken Heurel 1796.
  My question is: what does Heurel stand for?

  Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets confusing.

  Mary Zarse
  USA
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 00:33:48
From: Joachim Ostendorf <home(a)nordstyle.de>

Hallo Mary,

"Heurel" meens a surname ... maybe a dutch name

Joachim Ostendorf





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mary Zarse 
  To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net 
  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:18 AM
  Subject: [OL] German words


  Hello,
  Excuse my ignorance but....
    an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette from Burstel. His  
  father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).

  My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?

  Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken Heurel 1796.
  My question is: what does Heurel stand for?

  Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets confusing.

  Mary Zarse
  USA
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 02:43:32
From: ZARSE MARY <marygz(a)sbcglobal.net>

Hallo Joachim,
Thank you for your response. Could you answer this
question?  Was the state of Oldenburg influenced by
Holland more that other German states? I noticed pics
of windmills around Ganderkesee and many names appear
to be from Holland.

Mary Zarse

--- Joachim Ostendorf <home(a)nordstyle.de> wrote:

> Hallo Mary,
> 
> "Heurel" meens a surname ... maybe a dutch name
> 
> Joachim Ostendorf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mary Zarse 
>   To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:18 AM
>   Subject: [OL] German words
> 
> 
>   Hello,
>   Excuse my ignorance but....
>     an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette
> from Burstel. His  
>   father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).
> 
>   My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?
> 
>   Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken
> Heurel 1796.
>   My question is: what does Heurel stand for?
> 
>   Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets
> confusing.
> 
>   Mary Zarse
>   USA
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>  
>
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 04:38:45
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

If I may jump in here - Holland had lots of windmills as did other
parts of northern Germany. When there was a water stream available
they also did the water wheel thing.

You have to remember that Holland as well as Germany are relatively
new political states but the people have lived there for many, many
centuries and have a common heritage. Where Holland (or better, the
Netherlands) are today the people spoke low German and culturally
there wasn't much difference between the people living along the North
Sea coastline. They all shared the same wind. :-)

Still, windmills were already in use along the coast in the 14th
century. These early mills had to be manually turned toward the wind.
The real development over the centuries over earlier middle Eastern
mills was the continuous technology improvement of the sails. This was
a roughly 500 year development cycle and then came motorized mills.

I've read up a little on early mills because my name may have it's
origin in the job of keeping the mill turned to the wind. As the wind
shifted the wooden rump of the mill had to be turned. Normally this
was a large chuck of a tree and a part of it's root - sort of like an
L which could be turned. The English also called this a tailpole or
tiller beam but an older word goes back the rump of a tree, the Rumpf
in German. The miller and the rumper typically lived in the mill which
had several floors for the various milling functions and living
quarters. We find the name Rump and various versions thereof in areas
where mills existed over time. I have a feeling the name stuck to some
of the people who worked the mill just as Miller/Müller has become
such a popular name.

BTW there is evidence of early windmills in 12th century England. The
mills listed in the earlier doomsday book were probably animal or
water driven mills. It took a bit more technology to get the sails
moving up top. See
http://www.building-history.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Buildings/Mills.htm
for sources in English.

To sum up, while Holland has many picturesque windmills, so does
Germany. In the north many a village has saved one or more of their
old windmills as historical artifacts to remind people of what used to
be. Without a mill no one would have been able to survive. The grain
was ground to flower and the baker then produced te bread which people
ate to live on. There must have been thousands upon thousands of them
all over the place.

Fred





On 12/20/06, ZARSE MARY <marygz(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hallo Joachim,
Thank you for your response. Could you answer this
question?  Was the state of Oldenburg influenced by
Holland more that other German states? I noticed pics
of windmills around Ganderkesee and many names appear
to be from Holland.

Mary Zarse

--- Joachim Ostendorf <home(a)nordstyle.de> wrote:

> Hallo Mary,
>
> "Heurel" meens a surname ... maybe a dutch name
>
> Joachim Ostendorf
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mary Zarse
>   To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
>   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:18 AM
>   Subject: [OL] German words
>
>
>   Hello,
>   Excuse my ignorance but....
>     an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette
> from Burstel. His
>   father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).
>
>   My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?
>
>   Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken
> Heurel 1796.
>   My question is: what does Heurel stand for?
>
>   Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets
> confusing.
>
>   Mary Zarse
>   USA
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 05:20:22
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

Thank you, Fred.  That's most fascinating.

There must also have been windmills farther south, too—in Spain.  Wasn't
Don Quixote fighting with windmills at one point?

Marilyn



> If I may jump in here - Holland had lots of windmills as did other
> parts of northern Germany. When there was a water stream available
> they also did the water wheel thing.
>
> You have to remember that Holland as well as Germany are relatively
> new political states but the people have lived there for many, many
> centuries and have a common heritage. Where Holland (or better, the
> Netherlands) are today the people spoke low German and culturally
> there wasn't much difference between the people living along the North
> Sea coastline. They all shared the same wind. :-)
>
> Still, windmills were already in use along the coast in the 14th
> century. These early mills had to be manually turned toward the wind.
> The real development over the centuries over earlier middle Eastern
> mills was the continuous technology improvement of the sails. This was
> a roughly 500 year development cycle and then came motorized mills.
>
> I've read up a little on early mills because my name may have it's
> origin in the job of keeping the mill turned to the wind. As the wind
> shifted the wooden rump of the mill had to be turned. Normally this
> was a large chuck of a tree and a part of it's root - sort of like an
> L which could be turned. The English also called this a tailpole or
> tiller beam but an older word goes back the rump of a tree, the Rumpf
> in German. The miller and the rumper typically lived in the mill which
> had several floors for the various milling functions and living
> quarters. We find the name Rump and various versions thereof in areas
> where mills existed over time. I have a feeling the name stuck to some
> of the people who worked the mill just as Miller/Müller has become
> such a popular name.
>
> BTW there is evidence of early windmills in 12th century England. The
> mills listed in the earlier doomsday book were probably animal or
> water driven mills. It took a bit more technology to get the sails
> moving up top. See
> http://www.building-history.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Buildings/Mills.htm
> for sources in English.
>
> To sum up, while Holland has many picturesque windmills, so does
> Germany. In the north many a village has saved one or more of their
> old windmills as historical artifacts to remind people of what used to
> be. Without a mill no one would have been able to survive. The grain
> was ground to flower and the baker then produced te bread which people
> ate to live on. There must have been thousands upon thousands of them
> all over the place.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/20/06, ZARSE MARY <marygz(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hallo Joachim,
>> Thank you for your response. Could you answer this
>> question?  Was the state of Oldenburg influenced by
>> Holland more that other German states? I noticed pics
>> of windmills around Ganderkesee and many names appear
>> to be from Holland.
>>
>> Mary Zarse
>>
>> --- Joachim Ostendorf <home(a)nordstyle.de> wrote:
>>
>> > Hallo Mary,
>> >
>> > "Heurel" meens a surname ... maybe a dutch name
>> >
>> > Joachim Ostendorf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: Mary Zarse
>> >   To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net
>> >   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:18 AM
>> >   Subject: [OL] German words
>> >
>> >
>> >   Hello,
>> >   Excuse my ignorance but....
>> >     an ancestor of mine is Arend Friedrich Schuette
>> > from Burstel. His
>> >   father was Johann Hinrich Schuette (Schulhalter).
>> >
>> >   My question is: What does Schulhalter stand for?
>> >
>> >   Also, his wife was Anna Catharine geb. Oetken
>> > Heurel 1796.
>> >   My question is: what does Heurel stand for?
>> >
>> >   Maybe it's the name of the mother. Man, this gets
>> > confusing.
>> >
>> >   Mary Zarse
>> >   USA
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 07:19:11
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

On 12/20/06, mstulken(a)wi.net <mstulken(a)wi.net> wrote:
Thank you, Fred. That's most fascinating.

There must also have been windmills farther south, too—in Spain.  Wasn't
Don Quixote fighting with windmills at one point?

Marilyn


Of course but we were discussing Holland and Oldenburg. You could walk from one to the other. It was only a day's walk across some land held by Hannover to get to the Netherlands.

In any case, windmills started in early on the middle east especially
present day Iran.

The windmills in Spain are different from those we find in northern
Europe. They are solid building made out of stone. I've travelled the
area and could well imagine the road to La Mancha with the mills
sitting high in the hills. It doesn't take much imagination to have
you want to ride against them. :-) Cervantes first published that
story in 1605 and it talks about an earlier time. So windmills were
around in Spain early on for sure too. :-)

Fred


Fred



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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 16:32:17
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>

You're right, Fred.  Things are soooo close there.  I was in touch with a
distant cousin a while back.  He had taken a bus load of cousins from
Holland to the Osnabruck area.  He said "it's only a couple of hours
away."  I was amazed.  I always tend to think of Europe as a bigger area
than it is.

Your study of windmills sounds like fun.  You should write a book.

My hubby reminds me that the later development of the extra wheel to keep
the bigger blades pointed into the wind is much the same principle as used
on helicopters.

Marilyn





> On 12/20/06, mstulken(a)wi.net <mstulken(a)wi.net> wrote:
>> Thank you, Fred.  That's most fascinating.
>>
>> There must also have been windmills farther south, too—in Spain.  Wasn't
>> Don Quixote fighting with windmills at one point?
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>
> Of course but we were discussing Holland and Oldenburg. You could walk
> from one to the other. It was only a day's walk across some land held
> by Hannover to get to the Netherlands.
>
> In any case, windmills started in early on the middle east especially
> present day Iran.
>
> The windmills in Spain are different from those we find in northern
> Europe. They are solid building made out of stone. I've travelled the
> area and could well imagine the road to La Mancha with the mills
> sitting high in the hills. It doesn't take much imagination to have
> you want to ride against them. :-) Cervantes first published that
> story in 1605 and it talks about an earlier time. So windmills were
> around in Spain early on for sure too. :-)
>
> Fred
>
>
> Fred
>
>
> --
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> 730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120
> fredrump(a)gmail.com
> http://fredrump.phanfare.com
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Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/21 18:56:12
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

Hallo Frau von Hammel,

Sie hatten Dr. Mouton die nachstehenden Daten geschickt.
Damit war ich heute in Vechta und habe versucht die Heirat der Eltern zu finden, aber sowohl in Crapendorf wie auch in dem umliegenden Orten konnte ich nichts finden.
Vermutlich hat das Paar an dem Ort geheiratet wo die Frau geboren ist, aber wo könnte das sein?

Ich habe den Namen Möller mehrfach in Lindern(Ammern) gesehen aber nicht die Heirat. Haben Sie dazu noch eine Idee?
Eigentlich müßte das Paar katholisch geheiratet haben, da die Kinder katholisch getauft wurden, aber wer weiß ....
Ich werde daher hier im Staatsarchiv die evangelischen Bücher durchforsten, möglicherweise finde ich dort die Heirat und/oder die Geburt von Wilhelm Röpke, schaun wir mal.

Falls Sie mir noch eine Tipp geben könnten würde ich mich freuen.

Ich wünschen Ihnen ein Frohes Weihnachsfest und einen guten Rutsch ins Jahr 2007.

Werner Honkomp


> Hallo,

> in meinen Unterlagen habe ich folgende Geburten mit den Eltern Röpke /
> Müller


> Kind:       Gerardus Hieronimus
> geb.         17. April 1819 Crapendorf
> get.          18. April 1819 Crapendorf
> Eltern.    Wilhelm Röpke, Schneider, Relig. Lutherano
>                 Anna Müller catholica conj.
> Paten:     Joan Hieronimus Vollstedt,
>                 Gertrud Meyborg cons. Jörling
> -----


> Kind:       Franciscus Antonius
> geb.        15.Januar 1825 Crapendorf
> get.         17.Januar 1825 Crapendorf
> Eltern:    Wilhelm Ludwig Röpke Feldhüter
>                 Anna Müller conj.
> Paten:    Anton Feigel
>                Maria Gertrud Holthaus nata Wesselmann

> ---

> Kind:     Maria Amalia Dorothea
> geb.       16. Mai 1823 Crapendorf
> get.        17.Mai 1823 Crapendorf
> Eltern:    Wilhelm Röpke, Feldhüter Reli. Lutheran
>                 Anna Müller conj.
> Paten:    Maria Amalia Ölken nata Baumgarten
>                 Adolph Feigel

> ....

> Kind:        Wilhelmus Augustus Gerhardus
> geb.           24. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
> get.            25. Februar 1813 Crapendorf
> Eltern:        Wilhelm Röpke et
>                     Anna Möller
> Paten:         Clemens Aug. Holthaus,
>                     Cath. Holthaus

> ---

> Kind:        Joannes Antonius
> geb.          15. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
> get.           16. Mai 1815 Crapendorf
> Eltern:       Wilhelm Röpke, Reli. Luth. et
>                    Dorothea Müller catholica conj.
> Paten:        Joann Diederich Meyborg,
>                    Charlotte Kurtz cond. Müller

> ---
> Quelle der obengenannten Daten KB Krapendorf, Offizialatsarchiv Vechta


> Ferner haben wir in unsere Totenbildersammlung den Namen Röbken, Robken
> vorhanden.
> Vielleicht ist es ja nur eine andere schreibweise des Nachnamen.

> mfg

> Monika von Hammel


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. R.P. Mouton" <moutonrp(a)tiscali.nl>
> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:51 PM
> Subject: [OL] Ropke


>> Can anyone help me finding the forefathers of my grandsons. It concerns:
>> Gerhard Hieronimus Ropke (Roepke), born on 17 april 1819 in Crapendorf
> (Oldenburg). I am interested in his parents and grandparents from both
> sides. Gerhard emigrated to Amsterdam about 1840. Peter Mouton
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/21 19:30:27
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

On 12/21/06, mstulken(a)wi.net <mstulken(a)wi.net> wrote:
You're right, Fred.  Things are soooo close there.  I was in touch with a
distant cousin a while back.  He had taken a bus load of cousins from
Holland to the Osnabruck area.  He said "it's only a couple of hours
away."  I was amazed.  I always tend to think of Europe as a bigger area
than it is.

Europe itself isn't all that small but think of the countries like our states and then it falls into place. :-)

Your study of windmills sounds like fun. You should write a book.

I really only wondered about the origin of my name. It's kind of fun poking around in really early times but nothing is ever sure as there are few records. On the other hand I should write a book, many books - but first and foremost is that long promised family chronic.

Frohe Weihnachten to one and all.

Fred

PS my daughter just called from the airport after undergoing
"security". She says it's hair-raising with the plastic baggies and
everything else. My whole family will be together this Christmas for
the first time in many years. I wonder if it's worth the hassle but
it's my Christmas present. :-)

>
--
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730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120
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[OL] Schuettes of Burstel

Date: 2006/12/21 22:49:51
From: Mary Zarse <marygz(a)sbcglobal.net>

Johann Hinrich Schuette (schulhalter) m. anna Catharine geb. Oetken Heurel 1796. Does that mean that her entire surname is Oetken Heurel. Was that common for women to have two surnames?
Also, how would I find out who came before these two people from Burstel, OL?


Mary Zarse

Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/22 00:05:06
From: euronet2 <prowold(a)euronet.nl>

I drop just in the discussion

About windmills some facts:
It's not a Dutch invention
First time mentioned in written history is in Sijistan (partly in Iran ) between 800 and 900 AC, in Great Brittan in 838, in Ireland somewhat later. In Holland in 1240, in Germany around Koln in 1222.
In essence there no difference between windmills from the Mediterrané and the North European windmills, only some technological improvements.
It's supposed that windmills arrived from France and from Rheinland into Holland. Looking to the words used in Holland for part of the windmills there is a connection between the German and Dutch words more then between English of French.


I attached a part of the mill dictionary. See number 3105: body. Specially for Fred.

Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Fred Rump" <fredrump(a)gmail.com>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] German words



On 12/21/06, mstulken(a)wi.net <mstulken(a)wi.net> wrote:
You're right, Fred.  Things are soooo close there.  I was in touch with a
distant cousin a while back.  He had taken a bus load of cousins from
Holland to the Osnabruck area.  He said "it's only a couple of hours
away."  I was amazed.  I always tend to think of Europe as a bigger area
than it is.

Europe itself isn't all that small but think of the countries like our states and then it falls into place. :-)

Your study of windmills sounds like fun. You should write a book.

I really only wondered about the origin of my name. It's kind of fun poking around in really early times but nothing is ever sure as there are few records. On the other hand I should write a book, many books - but first and foremost is that long promised family chronic.

Frohe Weihnachten to one and all.

Fred

PS my daughter just called from the airport after undergoing
"security". She says it's hair-raising with the plastic baggies and
everything else. My whole family will be together this Christmas for
the first time in many years. I wonder if it's worth the hassle but
it's my Christmas present. :-)

>
--
Fred Rump,  Beverly, NJ also
730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120
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Re: [OL] German words

Date: 2006/12/22 04:42:49
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>

On 12/21/06, euronet2 <prowold(a)euronet.nl> wrote:
I drop just in the discussion

You missed my earlier posts were I pretty much said what you say. Fred



>
I attached a part of the mill dictionary. See number 3105: body. Specially
for Fred.


Attachments aren't permitted in the mail list and it didn't arrive.
Fred


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[OL] Ziegelei

Date: 2006/12/22 14:08:46
From: gj.speckmann <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>

Dear Readers,

In my family search I came to some information that my great-great
grandfather,  Johann Speckmann borne 1805 in Munderloh was co-owner with a
family Brockmann of a  Brick oven (ziegelei) in Achternholt , Oldenburg
around  1850's  I tried to get information from the: Museum Alte Ziegelei in
Westernholt  but did not get any respons . Does somebody  has information
about this subject or knows wich archife's I  could search?

 

Best Christmas wishes to all,

Gert-Jan Speckmann

 

 

 

 

Re: [OL] Ziegelei

Date: 2006/12/22 14:26:52
From: werner wierhake <wierhake(a)freenet.de>

Hallo Herr Speckmann, haben Sie schon mal die Seite "www.achternholt.de" aufgerufen ? Werner aus Körbecke.
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To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:08 PM
Subject: [OL] Ziegelei



Dear Readers,

In my family search I came to some information that my great-great
grandfather, Johann Speckmann borne 1805 in Munderloh was co-owner with a
family Brockmann of a Brick oven (ziegelei) in Achternholt , Oldenburg
around 1850's I tried to get information from the: Museum Alte Ziegelei in
Westernholt but did not get any respons . Does somebody has information
about this subject or knows wich archife's I could search?




Best Christmas wishes to all,

Gert-Jan Speckmann









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Re: [OL] Ziegelei

Date: 2006/12/22 15:38:51
From: gj.speckmann <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>

Besten Herr Werner Wierhake,

Ich habe eine versuch gemacht fur dieses information an die Pinnwand der
website zu hangen aber keine Antworte gehabt,
Mit grussen
Gert-Jan Speckmann

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Verzonden: vrijdag 22 december 2006 14:27
Aan: Oldenburg-L
Onderwerp: Re: [OL] Ziegelei

Hallo Herr Speckmann, haben Sie schon mal die Seite "www.achternholt.de" 
aufgerufen ? Werner aus Körbecke.
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To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:08 PM
Subject: [OL] Ziegelei


> Dear Readers,
>
> In my family search I came to some information that my great-great
> grandfather,  Johann Speckmann borne 1805 in Munderloh was co-owner with a
> family Brockmann of a  Brick oven (ziegelei) in Achternholt , Oldenburg
> around  1850's  I tried to get information from the: Museum Alte Ziegelei 
> in
> Westernholt  but did not get any respons . Does somebody  has information
> about this subject or knows wich archife's I  could search?
>
>
>
> Best Christmas wishes to all,
>
> Gert-Jan Speckmann
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[OL] Oldenbrok Parish

Date: 2006/12/22 17:39:57
From: Erik Wetjen <wetjen(a)mainstaycomm.net>

Looking for more information on Johann Diedrich Wetjen born 18 Jan 1848 in Bardenfleth died 21 Aug 1889 in Oldenbrok, Germany.
I have no information from the parish of Oldenbrok.  I just found out that he went to church there.
Did his family go there also? Thanks, Erik  

Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel

Date: 2006/12/22 17:56:52
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

The German phone directory shows not the place Heurel or the name Heurel.
Could it be Hurrel, this is a farm group easterly of the town Oldenburg, part of Hude.
There some Oetken and Schuette addresses, like this:

Schütte, Anita u. Günter
  Hurreler Str. 9
  27798 Hude

Bürstel (not Burstel) is also a farm Group, few km south from Hurrel, a part of Ganderkesee.
There are also a lot of Schuette and Oetken addresses.

Merry Christmas,
Werner


> Johann Hinrich Schuette (schulhalter) m. anna Catharine geb. Oetken
> Heurel 1796. Does that mean that her entire surname is Oetken Heurel.
> Was that common for women to have two surnames?
> Also, how would I find out who came before these two people from
> Burstel, OL?

> Mary Zarse
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Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel

Date: 2006/12/22 18:09:05
From: Heinz Wiemann <Heinz.Wiemann(a)gmx.de>

They are listed in Ganderkesee:

     oo 4.Nov.1796
     Johann Hinrich Schütte
     Schulhalter z.Bürstel
     weyl. Claus Schütte Brinks. z. Bergedorf ehel. Sohn
     u. Anna Catharina Oetkens,
     Arend Friderich Oetkens Brinks. z. Bürstel ehel. Tocht.
     (nachtr. er + 1806)


Greetings


Heinz Wiemann



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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel



The German phone directory shows not the place Heurel or the name Heurel.
Could it be Hurrel, this is a farm group easterly of the town Oldenburg, part of Hude.
There some Oetken and Schuette addresses, like this:


Schütte, Anita u. Günter
 Hurreler Str. 9
 27798 Hude

Bürstel (not Burstel) is also a farm Group, few km south from Hurrel, a part of Ganderkesee.
There are also a lot of Schuette and Oetken addresses.


Merry Christmas,
Werner


Johann Hinrich Schuette (schulhalter) m. anna Catharine geb. Oetken
Heurel 1796. Does that mean that her entire surname is Oetken Heurel.
Was that common for women to have two surnames?
Also, how would I find out who came before these two people from
Burstel, OL?

Mary Zarse
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Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel

Date: 2006/12/22 18:33:16
From: Heinz Wiemann <Heinz.Wiemann(a)gmx.de>

Hello Mary,

Find below the children of Johann Hinrich SCHUETTE, and Anna Catharine OETTCKEN, as recorded in Ganderkesee's church records. A little Christmas present.

Heinz Wiemann



*1797/126

SCHÜTTE Anna Margarethe

*23.09.1797 Bürstel

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharine

Datum: 23.Sept. Anna Margarethe(+Dec.26.d.J.)

Elt-Johann Hinrich Schütte Schulhalter u.Anna Catharine

geb.Oetjen Einwohner zum Bürstel

Gev. 1) Anna Catharina Stubben ibid.

2) Margarethe Hohenböcken ibid.

3) Arend Hinrich Pape ibid.





*1798/136

SCHÜTTE Anna Catharine

*20.10.1798 Bürstel

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharine

Datum:20.Oct. Anna Catharine

Elt-Johann Hinrich Schütte u.Anna Catharine Oetjen

Heuerl. zum Bürstel

Gev. 1) Beke Osterloh aus Immer

2) Magdalena Frerichs aus Bergedorf

3) Cord Friderich Oetjen aus Bürstel





*1801/053

SCHÜTTE Arend Friedrich

*16.05.1801 Bürstel

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharine

Datum: 16.Mai Arend Friderich

Elt-Johann Hinrich Schütte Schulhalter u.Anna Catharine

geb.Oetken Heuerl.zum Bürstel

(nachtr. cop.1796 Nov.4; er starb 1806 Aug.26)

Gev. 1) Friderich Arend Alfs aus Bürstel

2) Diderich Arend Schütte aus Bergedorf

3) Wendel Margr.Oetken aus Bürstel



*1803/126

SCHÜTTE Anna Margarete

*28.09.1803 Bürstel

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharine

Datum: 28.Sept. Margarete

Elt.-Johann Hinrich Schütte u.Anna Catharine geb.

Oetken Schulhalter zum Bürstel

Gev.-1) Catharine Margarete Schütten v.Bergedorf

2) Margarete Oetken v.Bürstel


3) Friderich Arend Alfs ibid.






*1806/062

SCHÜTTE Gesche Margarete

*19.05.1806 Bürstel

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharine

Datum: 19.May Gesche Margarete(+Jun.15.h.a.)

Elt.-Johann Hinrich Schütte Schulhalter u.Anna

Catharine geb.Oetken z.Bürstel

Gev.-1) Gesche Alfs ibid.

2) Margarete Oetken ibid.

3) Johann Diderich Alfs pr.maritus








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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel



The German phone directory shows not the place Heurel or the name Heurel.
Could it be Hurrel, this is a farm group easterly of the town Oldenburg, part of Hude.
There some Oetken and Schuette addresses, like this:


Schütte, Anita u. Günter
 Hurreler Str. 9
 27798 Hude

Bürstel (not Burstel) is also a farm Group, few km south from Hurrel, a part of Ganderkesee.
There are also a lot of Schuette and Oetken addresses.


Merry Christmas,
Werner


Johann Hinrich Schuette (schulhalter) m. anna Catharine geb. Oetken
Heurel 1796. Does that mean that her entire surname is Oetken Heurel.
Was that common for women to have two surnames?
Also, how would I find out who came before these two people from
Burstel, OL?

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Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel

Date: 2006/12/22 19:30:09
From: Heinz Wiemann <Heinz.Wiemann(a)gmx.de>

Hello Mary,

... and the parents/grandparents.


Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year



Heinz Wiemann




His birth is not recorded in Ganderkesee.

His death record:



+1806/130

SCHÜTTE Johann Hinrich

+26.08.1806 Bürstel

*11.04.1770

Datum: 26.Aug. Johann Hinrich Schütte Schulhalter u.

Einwohner z.Bürstel starb an einer langjährigen Aus=

zehrung geb.1770 Apr.11: 36 J.4 M.15 T.(nachtr.cop1796)



Her birth record:


*1773/119


ÖTTCKEN Anna Catharina

*20.10.1773 Bürstel

ÖTTCKEN Arend Friedrich

NN Anna Catharina

20.Oct. Anna Catharina

Elt-Arend Friderich Oetjen u.Anna Catharina zum Bürstel

Gev. 1) Gesche Margrete,Cord Hinrich Papen Fr.ibid.

2) Grete,Arend Hinr.Hollmans Fr.zum Immer

3) Arend Hinrich Oetjen ibid.



Her parents' marriage record:

     oo 19.Nov. 1772
      Arend Friderich Oetjen,
     Cord Friderich Oetjen Brinks. z.Bürstel ehel.Sohn
     u.Anna Catharina Kläners
     weyl.Harm Kläners Baumans zum Immer ehel.Tocht.



Her father's birth record:


*1743/022


ÖTTCKEN Arend Friedrich

*07.05.1743 Bürstel

ÖTTCKEN Cord Friedrich

NN Anna Cathrine

Datum: 7./9. Majus gen. Arend Friederich

Elt.-Cord Friederich Ötcken u. Anna Cathrine v.Bürstel

Gev. 1) Johann Ötcken v. Immer

2) Harmen Wilcken weyl.Harmen Engelbarts S.Ganderk

3) Lükke Margrete,Joh.Klattenhofs Tocht.v.Bürstel



...and grandparents:


oo1730/028


10.11.1730 Ganderkesee

Mann: ÖTTCKEN Cord Friedrich Immer

Frau: ENGELBART Ann Trien Ganderkesee

Datum: 10. Nov. Cord Friedrich Ötken Häusl. zum Immer

ehel.Sohn u. Ann Trien Engelbart, Harm Engelbarts in

Ganderkesee ehel.Tochter





Her mother's birth record:


*1749/048


KLÖNER Anna Cathrina

*02.05.1749 Immer

KLÖNER Harmen

NN Margrete

Datum: 2./4. Majus gen. Ana Cathrina

Elt.-Harmen Klöner u.Margrete v. Immer

Gev. 1) Anna Cathrine Eilers v. Rade

2) Heilcke, Joh.Dierck Klöners Fr. v. Bergdorf

3) Marten, Marten Klöners Sohn v. Immer





...and grandparents:


oo1743/033


07.11.1743 Ganderkesee

Mann: KLÖNER Harmen Immer

Frau: OSTERLOH Anna Margrete Immer


Datum: 7. Nov. Harmen Klöner, Marten Klöners zum Immer


ehel.Sohn u. Anna Margrete weyl. Oltmann Osterlohes

Baum. ibid. nachgel. Witwe





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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Schuettes of Burstel



The German phone directory shows not the place Heurel or the name Heurel.
Could it be Hurrel, this is a farm group easterly of the town Oldenburg, part of Hude.
There some Oetken and Schuette addresses, like this:


Schütte, Anita u. Günter
 Hurreler Str. 9
 27798 Hude

Bürstel (not Burstel) is also a farm Group, few km south from Hurrel, a part of Ganderkesee.
There are also a lot of Schuette and Oetken addresses.


Merry Christmas,
Werner


Johann Hinrich Schuette (schulhalter) m. anna Catharine geb. Oetken
Heurel 1796. Does that mean that her entire surname is Oetken Heurel.
Was that common for women to have two surnames?
Also, how would I find out who came before these two people from
Burstel, OL?

Mary Zarse
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Re: [OL] Ropke

Date: 2006/12/23 00:44:05
From: Monika von Hammel <monika.v.ha(a)ewetel.net>

Hallo,

ich habe meine Unterlagen nochmals durchgesehen.

Ein Taufeintrag kann ich unter Wilhelm Ropke sowie unter
Anna Dorothea Müller in Krapendorf von 1750 bis 1800.nicht feststellen.

Eine Familie Möller gab es in Bethen, hatten aber keine Tochter mit den
Namen  Anna Dorothea.

Haben Sie auch unter Molbergen nachgesehen, denn bei den Paten taucht der
Name Meyborg auf,
den Namen gibt es in Molbergen.

Bei den Geburten von den Kindern  Ropke/Müller ist leider nichts vermerkt,
was weiterhelfen könnte.

Noch viel Erfolg bei der weiteren Suche!!!

mfg

Monika von Hammel



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From: "Werner Honkomp" <werner(a)honkomp.de>
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Ropke


> Hallo Frau von Hammel,
>
> Sie hatten Dr. Mouton die nachstehenden Daten geschickt.
> Damit war ich heute in Vechta und habe versucht die Heirat der Eltern zu
finden, aber sowohl in Crapendorf wie auch in dem umliegenden Orten konnte
ich nichts finden.
> Vermutlich hat das Paar an dem Ort geheiratet wo die Frau geboren ist,
aber wo könnte das sein?
>
> Ich habe den Namen Möller mehrfach in Lindern(Ammern) gesehen aber nicht
die Heirat. Haben Sie dazu noch eine Idee?
> Eigentlich müßte das Paar katholisch geheiratet haben, da die Kinder
katholisch getauft wurden, aber wer weiß ....
> Ich werde daher hier im Staatsarchiv die evangelischen Bücher
durchforsten, möglicherweise finde ich dort die Heirat und/oder die Geburt
von Wilhelm Röpke, schaun wir mal.
>
> Falls Sie mir noch eine