oldenburg-l - Nachricht 2006-10 00033

[Margot King <margot.king(a)ca.inter.net>]

Dear Werner,

You're marvellous and once again I thank you for all your help. I did 
discover a bit of general information about the German school system in 
the 19th century but nothing as specific as what you've sent me. But as 
usual, I have more questions! What precisely were the "side schools" on 
the Bauernshaften? On what grounds would each Bauerschaft be chosen to 
house such a school or was the choice up to the owners of the 
Bauernschaften? What kind of qualifications would the teachers have to 
have -- or were they simply drawn from the local clergy? On the basis 
of what I've read, I presume that the students would have been taught 
reading, basic arithmetic, writing and catechism.

Thank you again. I'll send you a copy of my funny small family history 
once I'm satisfied that there aren't too many errors in it.

Margot


On 13-Oct-06, at 12:51 PM, Werner Honkomp wrote:

> Hello Margot,
>
> I have the history of the School in Damme, it is a long story, but in 
> German language.
>
> About 1830 was in Damme two main schools (for boys "Knabenschule" for 
> girls "Mädchenschule") each with only one class-room, together 2 
> teacher and 232 kids! 1863 started the two class system with three 
> teachers, boys and girls are the first three school years together in 
> a class.
> In additional to this was there 13 side schools in the 
> Bauernschaften(farm groups) like Borrighausen, Haverbeck, etc.
> This was also only one class room for girl and boys, 1830 80-110 kids, 
> but about 1870 only 50-70 kids because a lot of families emigrated to 
> the States. There are trained teachers at the schools since about 
> 1830, but all must have a small farm for live, the income was very 
> bad.
> Since 1866 has Damme an additional school "Höhere Bürgerschule" like a 
> high school with several classes. After this school they could go to 
> Münster to the education as a teacher.
> I think, also the Heuerleute children could go to the Höhere 
> Bürgerschule.
>
> I hope help,
> Werner
>
> > I'm back again with what probably is another simple-minded question 
> > but
> > the list members have been so generous with their answers to my other
> > questions that I'm hoping that perhaps someone can help me out.
>
> > What kind of education would the children of the Heuerleute in
> > Oldenburg have had in the middle of the nineteenth century?  My great
> > great grandfather (Johann Heinrich Bergmann) was a tenant farmer in
> > Damme but only a few years after the family's arrival in the U.S. in
> > 1870, he was on the school board in Stearns County MN and his 
> > daughter,
> > my great grandmother Berardina, was the first teacher in one of the
> > small district schools there. She must have had some kind of schooling
> > but would it have been enough for her to teach?  I know that there 
> > were
> > Progymasia all over Germany at the time but am not sure how the
> > Heuerleute would have fit into this scheme or indeed whether she would
> > have attended such a school.
>
> > I'd be most grateful for any help in this area and/or suggestions for
> > further reading.
>
> > Margot King
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