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[OL] Hermann Theodor BRUNS		 Autor 2006/08/22 06:02:42
Margot King
Re: [OL] Meyer-Holzgrefe in Bokern, Damme

[OL] Meyer-Holzgrefe in Bokern, Damme

Date: 2006/08/21 04:50:20
From: Margot King <margot.king(a)ca.inter.net>

Dear List Members,

Although I know that the topics of Heuerleute and Leibzucht have been covered on several occasions over the past few years, I am still not sure how I should characterize Meyer-Holzgrefe in Bokern, Damme where my Bergmann and Handorf ancestors came from.

Were all the many Bergmanns, Handorfs and Rusches (whose names are found in the Damme church records) the descendants of landless younger sons of a previous owner? I had been under the impression that they were "heuerleute", i.e. that they were tenant farmers and not related to the land owner. If the latter case is true, would "Holzgrefe" (Holzgraefe/Holzgreve) have referred to the name of the owner of the land and, by extension, the heuerleute? In any case, what kind of farm would it have been? Was it, as I have seen it once or twice referred to, a collective farm?

Leibzucht: The parents of Maria Agnes Handorf (b. 1859), Johann Bernard Handorf und Katharina Maria Rusche, are listed in the 1859 Damme Kirchspiel as living in the Holzgreven Leibzucht i.e. a pensioned living arrangement). In 2001, Don Meyer made this suggestion: "I believe the Leibzucht was an extra, smaller house that at first was for the parents to move into after giving the farm over to the inheriting son.  In later years, I believe the house was often used for Heuerleute (essentially tenant farms).  Fred Rump, in his answer, seems to have agreed that living in or on a Leizucht meant that had been granted to right by the owner to live where their parents had lived before their death. Or was Nancy Pundsack right when she wondered if the term did not mean so much a building but rather that that the heuerleute simply lived "on the estate or farm of some particular person who inherited the right to manage it. "

I'm not sure if I'm being thick-headed but I'm still confused. I'd be immensely grateful if someone could help me figure out this puzzle.

Thanks

Margot King
margot.king(a)ca.inter.net