Date: 2006/08/01 16:11:44
From: Boyken & Boyken Partners <frisian(a)netins.net>
Moin, I'm looking for connections to the recent listed people. In my charts I have the following ones: - Hermann Diedrich WILLE, called SPECKMANN, born May 10, 1797 (illegitimate) near Wardenburg, Germany, died March 27, 1850; his father could have been Hermann Diedrich SPECKMANN, the mother was Anne Margrete WILLE. - Catharina Margrete WILLE, born September 25, 1795 Achternholt (parish of Wardenburg) as daughter of Meinert WILLE and his wife Anne Maria nee NEUMANN. Thanks, Hans-Georg Boyken Titonka, IA 50480-0269, USA
Date: 2006/08/01 20:23:54
From: Richard Metteer <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com>
Anna Maria Lambrecht, born 1863 maiden name Koehnke widow of Theodor Wilhelm Lambrecht emigrated in the spring, 1878. Children: Heinrich, Carl, Hermann, Ferdinand, and Emma. Does anyone have information regarding this family? Thank you.
Date: 2006/08/02 00:28:55
From: Uwe G Pommerening <ugpommerening(a)t-online.de>
Hallo an die Liste, ich suche nach dem Namen Ingrid Gisa Hallo an die Liste, ich suche nach dem Namen Ingrid Gisa SCHOPOHL geb. TOELLE. Geburtsjahr ca. 1942-44. Wer hat etwas in seiner AT? Mfg Uwe G Pommerening Geburtsjahr ca. 1942-44. Wer hat etwas in seiner AL? Mfg Uwe G Pommerening
Date: 2006/08/02 14:25:22
From: hrs <hrs(a)hist.de>
Dear David Harfst, thank you for your email of 22 May and your included research request concerning your German ancestor Bernhard Harfst from Gruppenbühren. First of all, I apologize for answering you more than three months later. Your email was contained in a completely wrong email folder and I only recognized this today by accident. I am very sorry for this. In case you are still interested in my services: Gruppenbühren belongs to the parish of Ganderkesee. The Ganderkesee parish registers are available at the State Archive in Oldenburg and start in 1637. So it would be no problem to look up Bernhard Harfst's baptismal entry especially as you provided a precise date. Also a successful search for his ancestors should be possible. Descendants I can search up to about 1875 or maybe even 1900. Usually parish registers are only publically available up to 1875 keeping very rigid German data protection laws. But Oldenburg often is rather liberal and provides parish registers up to about 1900. At present I do not know your precise research objectives. That is, would you, for instance, like to have only a few entries of perhaps one or two generations back in time, are you only interested in the paternal line or would you like to have extensive genealogical research including every relevant entry to be found (siblings of direct ancestors etc)? Or are you not interested in ancestors at all but only in descendants? After I will have got this information from you I will make up a research offer with estimated costs which we can discuss, of course. When we have agreed on a research project to be started you only have to pay after you will have got the research report with the results. Payment is possible per direct money transfer, international money order, international payable check, VISA or MASTER CARD. I look forward to hearing from you again. Apologizing again for the long delay in answering you. Best wishes from Bremen, Germany, Jens Mueller-Koppe Jens Mueller-Koppe HISTORICAL RESEARCH SERVICES (HRS), Germany Schanzendorfer Str. 9b D-28307 Bremen Germany -> www.hist.de <-
Date: 2006/08/02 16:48:45
From: Dirk Unterbrink <dirk(a)unterbrink.net>
Hallo, ich suche das Geburtsdatum von Margaretha TEGENKAMP. Sie starb am 10.10.1877 in Neuscharrel. In ihrem Sterbeeintrag steht, dass sie 78 Jahre alt war. Also müsste sie um 1799 geboren sein. Ihr Eltern waren Dirk TEGENKAMP und Elisabeth RANKEN zu der Wölpe bei Vechta. Mit Wölpe muss das Gut Welpe bei Vechta gemeint sein. Wer kann Angaben zu dieser Maragretha TEGENKMP und ihren Eltern machen? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Dirk Unterbrink
Date: 2006/08/02 18:46:16
From: hrs <hrs(a)hist.de>
Dear List members! Liebe Listenmitglieder! I apologize for my today`s Harfst mail to the list. This mail was a private mail to Mr. David Harfst, it was send to the list accidential. Ich möchte mich bei Euch für meine heutige Harfst mail entschuldigen. Diese e-mail war eine private Nachricht an Herrn Davod Harfst, sie wurde aus Versehen an die Liste geschickt. Best greetings Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Jens Mueller-Koppe
Date: 2006/08/02 20:40:03
From: Hugo Schroeder <hugoschro(a)earthlink.net>
Without further info on my side of the Maas family, I would not be able to
make the connection to the family you mentioned. Researching the Maas
family name if like looking for Smith or Jones in the U.S. Where is
Homstead, Nebraska located? I couldn't find in an atlas. I will write to
Manfred to see if he can help. Thank you for your reply and I will get back
to you if I find anything.
Richard Metteer
Lincoln, NE
-----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of Hugo Schroeder Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:46 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hi Richard--
I have a Maas family in my datafile. John Henry (Johann Heinrich) Maas was
born 24 Nov. 1826 in the Grandduchy of Oldenburg; he died 3 Jun 1909 near
Homstead, Nebraska and is buried in the churchyard of St. John's Church
there. He immigrated I think in the middle of the 19th century, and worked
for the Amana Community in Homestead (though I don't think he was a member
of it). Maas was the third husband of my gr-gr-grandmother, Caroline
Ruehrdans (who came from Mecklenburg-Schwerin), but he certainly had a wife
before her, by whom he had three daughters that I know of. His family was
Lutheran, and originated on Hofstelle Lange in Buttel, Geimeinde
Neuenhuntorff, Duchy of Oldenburg. He was following in the footsteps of
relatives who had come earlier, and whose migration to Nebraska is reported
somewhere on the Web, though at the moment I cannot find the file in which
this data is stored. It is a very interesting story. I have a picture of
this couple.
On a trip to Germany a few years ago I saw the homestead from which he came.
It still retains a great deal of it the old character, including the old
home.
If this seems like the family you are searching, let me know, and I will make a serious search to find all the data for you.
Thirty or so years ago I was in Homestead and looked at the phonebook there
for Maas families would could be relatives. There was a whole page full.
You might want to try calling some of them to see if anyone has done a
thorough family history of the Maas family.
A person in Germany whom you might contact--he knows a lot about the Maas
family--is Manfred Moennich, 78 Parkstrasse, 27798 Hude, Germany. (Telephone
04408/1807). Unfortunately, Manfred does not speak English, so unless you
speak German a phone call would not be of much help. He is also not
computerized, so the letter must be sent snail mail. It can be in either
English or German, as he has people who translate for him. His hobby is
helping Americans trace their roots, so don't hesitate to write. His area
of expertise would include the Neuenhuntorff area. It's a lovely village,
and if this is your family, I have pictures of the village which may
interest you.
I'll be interested in hearing back. You can email me direct at hugoschro(a)earthlink.net.
Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hans Christian Maas was born on June 12, 1830. Married Carolina Wilhelminna Frederihe (born May 25, 1831). Their son Hans Christopher married Cristine Waqdalena Qieb. Their son, Chis, was born in Oldenburg, Germany June 29, 1879. He immigrated at age 16/17 to Nebraska, USA. Any information regarding this family is greatly appreciated.
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Date: 2006/08/02 21:26:26
From: Richard Metteer <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com>
Hugo: Thank you for the information. My confusion came from the message that referred to Homstead, Nebraska whereas; your next message referred to Homstead, Iowa. Richard -----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of Hugo Schroeder Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:46 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian Hi Richard-- I have a Maas family in my datafile. John Henry (Johann Heinrich) Maas was born 24 Nov. 1826 in the Grandduchy of Oldenburg; he died 3 Jun 1909 near Homstead, Nebraska and is buried in the churchyard of St. John's Church there. He immigrated I think in the middle of the 19th century, and worked for the Amana Community in Homestead (though I don't think he was a member of it). Maas was the third husband of my gr-gr-grandmother, Caroline Ruehrdans (who came from Mecklenburg-Schwerin), but he certainly had a wife before her, by whom he had three daughters that I know of. His family was Lutheran, and originated on Hofstelle Lange in Buttel, Geimeinde Neuenhuntorff, Duchy of Oldenburg. He was following in the footsteps of relatives who had come earlier, and whose migration to Nebraska is reported somewhere on the Web, though at the moment I cannot find the file in which this data is stored. It is a very interesting story. I have a picture of this couple. On a trip to Germany a few years ago I saw the homestead from which he came. It still retains a great deal of it the old character, including the old home. If this seems like the family you are searching, let me know, and I will make a serious search to find all the data for you. Thirty or so years ago I was in Homestead and looked at the phonebook there for Maas families would could be relatives. There was a whole page full. You might want to try calling some of them to see if anyone has done a thorough family history of the Maas family. A person in Germany whom you might contact--he knows a lot about the Maas family--is Manfred Moennich, 78 Parkstrasse, 27798 Hude, Germany. (Telephone 04408/1807). Unfortunately, Manfred does not speak English, so unless you speak German a phone call would not be of much help. He is also not computerized, so the letter must be sent snail mail. It can be in either English or German, as he has people who translate for him. His hobby is helping Americans trace their roots, so don't hesitate to write. His area of expertise would include the Neuenhuntorff area. It's a lovely village, and if this is your family, I have pictures of the village which may interest you. I'll be interested in hearing back. You can email me direct at hugoschro(a)earthlink.net. Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian > Hans Christian Maas was born on June 12, 1830. Married Carolina > Wilhelminna > Frederihe (born May 25, 1831). Their son Hans Christopher married > Cristine > Waqdalena Qieb. Their son, Chis, was born in Oldenburg, Germany June 29, > 1879. He immigrated at age 16/17 to Nebraska, USA. Any information > regarding this family is greatly appreciated. > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2006/08/02 21:29:04
From: Boyken & Boyken Partners <frisian(a)netins.net>
Hans-Georg Boyken Titonka, IA 50480-0269, USA
Hi again--
Homestead in is Iowa County. Since the Amana Co is still an important
industry (makers of refrigerators, etc.), you may find it on their website.
Google Earth shows the location at 41 degrees, 45 minutes, 34. seconds North
by 91 degrees 52 minutes, 01 seconds West. That should enable youto find it
in the atlas. A road map should certainly show it, as it is a reasonable
sized town. .
I'll see if I can find the more detailed informaion on the family. Since you ancestor settled in Nebraska, I'm sure they would have been related.
Hugo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Without further info on my side of the Maas family, I would not be able to
make the connection to the family you mentioned. Researching the Maas
family name if like looking for Smith or Jones in the U.S. Where is
Homstead, Nebraska located? I couldn't find in an atlas. I will write to
Manfred to see if he can help. Thank you for your reply and I will get
back
to you if I find anything.
Richard Metteer
Lincoln, NE
-----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of Hugo Schroeder Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:46 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hi Richard--
I have a Maas family in my datafile. John Henry (Johann Heinrich) Maas
was
born 24 Nov. 1826 in the Grandduchy of Oldenburg; he died 3 Jun 1909 near
Homstead, Nebraska and is buried in the churchyard of St. John's Church
there. He immigrated I think in the middle of the 19th century, and worked
for the Amana Community in Homestead (though I don't think he was a member
of it). Maas was the third husband of my gr-gr-grandmother, Caroline
Ruehrdans (who came from Mecklenburg-Schwerin), but he certainly had a
wife
before her, by whom he had three daughters that I know of. His family was
Lutheran, and originated on Hofstelle Lange in Buttel, Geimeinde
Neuenhuntorff, Duchy of Oldenburg. He was following in the footsteps of
relatives who had come earlier, and whose migration to Nebraska is
reported
somewhere on the Web, though at the moment I cannot find the file in which
this data is stored. It is a very interesting story. I have a picture of
this couple.
On a trip to Germany a few years ago I saw the homestead from which he came. It still retains a great deal of it the old character, including the old home.
If this seems like the family you are searching, let me know, and I will make a serious search to find all the data for you.
Thirty or so years ago I was in Homestead and looked at the phonebook there for Maas families would could be relatives. There was a whole page full. You might want to try calling some of them to see if anyone has done a thorough family history of the Maas family.
A person in Germany whom you might contact--he knows a lot about the Maas
family--is Manfred Moennich, 78 Parkstrasse, 27798 Hude, Germany.
(Telephone
04408/1807). Unfortunately, Manfred does not speak English, so unless you
speak German a phone call would not be of much help. He is also not
computerized, so the letter must be sent snail mail. It can be in either
English or German, as he has people who translate for him. His hobby is
helping Americans trace their roots, so don't hesitate to write. His area
of expertise would include the Neuenhuntorff area. It's a lovely village,
and if this is your family, I have pictures of the village which may
interest you.
I'll be interested in hearing back. You can email me direct at hugoschro(a)earthlink.net.
Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hans Christian Maas was born on June 12, 1830. Married Carolina
Wilhelminna
Frederihe (born May 25, 1831). Their son Hans Christopher married
Cristine
Waqdalena Qieb. Their son, Chis, was born in Oldenburg, Germany June 29,
1879. He immigrated at age 16/17 to Nebraska, USA. Any information
regarding this family is greatly appreciated.
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Date: 2006/08/03 02:37:46
From: Mary Cervantes <mary1114(a)fuse.net>
Best Wishes, Mary Cervantes Cincinnati, OH
Dear List members! Liebe Listenmitglieder!
I apologize for my today`s Harfst mail to the list. This mail was a private mail to Mr. David Harfst, it was send to the list accidential.
Ich möchte mich bei Euch für meine heutige Harfst mail entschuldigen.
Diese e-mail war eine private Nachricht an Herrn Davod Harfst, sie wurde aus Versehen an die Liste geschickt.
Best greetings Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Jens Mueller-Koppe
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Date: 2006/08/03 03:44:34
From: Hugo Schroeder <hugoschro(a)earthlink.net>
Hugo: Thank you for the information. My confusion came from the message that referred to Homstead, Nebraska whereas; your next message referred to Homstead, Iowa. Richard
-----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of Hugo Schroeder Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:46 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hi Richard--
I have a Maas family in my datafile. John Henry (Johann Heinrich) Maas was
born 24 Nov. 1826 in the Grandduchy of Oldenburg; he died 3 Jun 1909 near
Homstead, Nebraska and is buried in the churchyard of St. John's Church
there. He immigrated I think in the middle of the 19th century, and worked
for the Amana Community in Homestead (though I don't think he was a member
of it). Maas was the third husband of my gr-gr-grandmother, Caroline
Ruehrdans (who came from Mecklenburg-Schwerin), but he certainly had a wife
before her, by whom he had three daughters that I know of. His family was
Lutheran, and originated on Hofstelle Lange in Buttel, Geimeinde
Neuenhuntorff, Duchy of Oldenburg. He was following in the footsteps of
relatives who had come earlier, and whose migration to Nebraska is reported
somewhere on the Web, though at the moment I cannot find the file in which
this data is stored. It is a very interesting story. I have a picture of
this couple.
On a trip to Germany a few years ago I saw the homestead from which he came.
It still retains a great deal of it the old character, including the old
home.
If this seems like the family you are searching, let me know, and I will make a serious search to find all the data for you.
Thirty or so years ago I was in Homestead and looked at the phonebook there
for Maas families would could be relatives. There was a whole page full.
You might want to try calling some of them to see if anyone has done a
thorough family history of the Maas family.
A person in Germany whom you might contact--he knows a lot about the Maas
family--is Manfred Moennich, 78 Parkstrasse, 27798 Hude, Germany. (Telephone
04408/1807). Unfortunately, Manfred does not speak English, so unless you
speak German a phone call would not be of much help. He is also not
computerized, so the letter must be sent snail mail. It can be in either
English or German, as he has people who translate for him. His hobby is
helping Americans trace their roots, so don't hesitate to write. His area
of expertise would include the Neuenhuntorff area. It's a lovely village,
and if this is your family, I have pictures of the village which may
interest you.
I'll be interested in hearing back. You can email me direct at hugoschro(a)earthlink.net.
Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hans Christian Maas was born on June 12, 1830. Married Carolina Wilhelminna Frederihe (born May 25, 1831). Their son Hans Christopher married Cristine Waqdalena Qieb. Their son, Chis, was born in Oldenburg, Germany June 29, 1879. He immigrated at age 16/17 to Nebraska, USA. Any information regarding this family is greatly appreciated.
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Date: 2006/08/03 03:51:33
From: Hugo Schroeder <hugoschro(a)earthlink.net>
Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA USA
Moin Hugo,
Do you think that a homestead is in Iowa a county? If so, you are on the
wrong way.
Homestead is a home and its land; the land being granted under the American
Homestead Act.
Hans-Georg Boyken Titonka, IA 50480-0269, USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugo Schroeder" <hugoschro(a)earthlink.net>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hi again--
Homestead in is Iowa County. Since the Amana Co is still an important industry (makers of refrigerators, etc.), you may find it on their website. Google Earth shows the location at 41 degrees, 45 minutes, 34. seconds North by 91 degrees 52 minutes, 01 seconds West. That should enable youto find it in the atlas. A road map should certainly show it, as it is a reasonable sized town. .
I'll see if I can find the more detailed informaion on the family. Since you ancestor settled in Nebraska, I'm sure they would have been related.
Hugo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com>
To: "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Without further info on my side of the Maas family, I would not be able to make the connection to the family you mentioned. Researching the Maas family name if like looking for Smith or Jones in the U.S. Where is Homstead, Nebraska located? I couldn't find in an atlas. I will write to Manfred to see if he can help. Thank you for your reply and I will get back to you if I find anything. Richard Metteer Lincoln, NE
-----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces+rmetteer1=neb.rr.com(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of Hugo Schroeder Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:46 PM To: Oldenburg-L Subject: Re: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hi Richard--
I have a Maas family in my datafile. John Henry (Johann Heinrich) Maas
was
born 24 Nov. 1826 in the Grandduchy of Oldenburg; he died 3 Jun 1909 near
Homstead, Nebraska and is buried in the churchyard of St. John's Church
there. He immigrated I think in the middle of the 19th century, and
worked
for the Amana Community in Homestead (though I don't think he was a
member
of it). Maas was the third husband of my gr-gr-grandmother, Caroline
Ruehrdans (who came from Mecklenburg-Schwerin), but he certainly had a
wife
before her, by whom he had three daughters that I know of. His family
was
Lutheran, and originated on Hofstelle Lange in Buttel, Geimeinde
Neuenhuntorff, Duchy of Oldenburg. He was following in the footsteps
of
relatives who had come earlier, and whose migration to Nebraska is
reported
somewhere on the Web, though at the moment I cannot find the file in
which
this data is stored. It is a very interesting story. I have a picture
of
this couple.
On a trip to Germany a few years ago I saw the homestead from which he came. It still retains a great deal of it the old character, including the old home.
If this seems like the family you are searching, let me know, and I will make a serious search to find all the data for you.
Thirty or so years ago I was in Homestead and looked at the phonebook
there
for Maas families would could be relatives. There was a whole page full.
You might want to try calling some of them to see if anyone has done a
thorough family history of the Maas family.
A person in Germany whom you might contact--he knows a lot about the Maas
family--is Manfred Moennich, 78 Parkstrasse, 27798 Hude, Germany.
(Telephone
04408/1807). Unfortunately, Manfred does not speak English, so unless
you
speak German a phone call would not be of much help. He is also not
computerized, so the letter must be sent snail mail. It can be in either
English or German, as he has people who translate for him. His hobby is
helping Americans trace their roots, so don't hesitate to write. His
area
of expertise would include the Neuenhuntorff area. It's a lovely
village,
and if this is your family, I have pictures of the village which may
interest you.
I'll be interested in hearing back. You can email me direct at hugoschro(a)earthlink.net.
Hugo Schroeder Liverpool, PA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Metteer" <rmetteer1(a)neb.rr.com> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OL] Maas, Hans Christian
Hans Christian Maas was born on June 12, 1830. Married Carolina Wilhelminna Frederihe (born May 25, 1831). Their son Hans Christopher married Cristine Waqdalena Qieb. Their son, Chis, was born in Oldenburg, Germany June 29, 1879. He immigrated at age 16/17 to Nebraska, USA. Any information regarding this family is greatly appreciated.
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Date: 2006/08/03 08:32:33
From: Scott Moceri <smmoceri(a)hotmail.com>
----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dirk Unterbrink" <dirk(a)unterbrink.net> Reply-To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> To: <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: [OL] Margaretha TEGENKAMP von Gut Welpe bei Vechta Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:26:00 +0200 (Westeuropäische Sommerzeit)
Hallo, ich suche das Geburtsdatum von Margaretha TEGENKAMP. Sie starb am 10.10.1877 in Neuscharrel. In ihrem Sterbeeintrag steht, dass sie 78 Jahre alt war. Also müsste sie um 1799 geboren sein. Ihr Eltern waren Dirk TEGENKAMP und Elisabeth RANKEN zu der Wölpe bei Vechta. Mit Wölpe muss das Gut Welpe bei Vechta gemeint sein. Wer kann Angaben zu dieser Maragretha TEGENKMP und ihren Eltern machen?
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Date: 2006/08/03 10:43:32
From: Horst Bast <gen-bast(a)web.de>
Liebe Listenteilnehmer/innen, Wir möchten hier kurz eines unserer Forschungsgebiete, das sich quer durch Deutschland zieht vorstellen. Unsere Ur-Ur-Großeltern Cajetan Hotter und Maria Kröll mussten mit den 416 Protestanten 1837 das Zillertal in Tirol verlassen und wurden in Schlesien vom preußischen König aufgenommen. 1945/46 mußten die Nachfahren dieser Auswanderer Schlesien verlassen und siedelten sich in ganz Deutschland wieder neu an. Von Bayern bis Schleswig-Holstein, vom Saarland bis Mecklenburg-Vorpommern sind heute die direkten Nachfahren dieser Auswanderer verstreut. Durch die Auswanderung unserer Ur-Ur-Geroßeltern haben wir genealogische Forschungen über diesen Personenkreis vorgenommen. Wir haben eine Homepage über die Auswanderung von 1837 unter www.1837-auswanderer.de - erstellt, die als Plattform und Forum der Nachfahren dienen soll. Eine Liste der 416 Auswanderer aus dem Zillertal ist online, ebenso die Geschichte der Zilleralter Auswanderer nach Chile, Bilder aus dem Zillertal/Tirol, genauso die Historie dieser Auswanderung. In Kontakt stehen wir mit Nachfahren der Auswanderer aus dem Zillertal in Chile und Australien, und natürlich auch in Deutschland. Unsere genealogischen Auswertungen wollen wir in einem Familienbuch zusammenstellen. Zurzeit haben wir über 4000 Personen als Vor- und Nachfahren der 416 Auswanderer erfaßt. Da die Nachfahren ja 1945 Zillertal-Erdmannsdorf in Schlesien verlassen mussten, suchen wir in allen Teilen Deutschlands nach weiteren Daten und Informationen zu den Auswanderern aus dem Zillertal von 1837. Deshalb liebe Listenteilnehmer/innen sind für jede noch so kleine Info dankbar. Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem Saarland Helga und Horst (Bast) www.1837-auswanderer.de HP zur Auswanderung von 1837 aus dem Zillertal nach Schlesien. mailto:gen-bast(a)web.de
Date: 2006/08/03 21:56:33
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Hello, listers! I saw Frank Speckmann's post from Wardenburg, and decided to write to see if anyone can give me any further information about the following, or if I might connect with some new cousins. My 7G grandfather, Frerk KöHNE (c. 1622-1694), lived and died in Wardenburg. On 21 Aug 1659, he married Gebke KULEMANN/KUHLMANN (c. 1625-1707). She was born in Sage. My 6G grandfather, Gerd KöHNE (c. 1666-1731), lived and died in Wardenburg. On 10 Nov 1703, he married Gesche KUHLMANN (1661-1734). She lived and died in Wardenburg. My 5G grandfather, Friederich KöHNE (1713-1776), was born in Wardenburg. On 15 Oct 1734, he married Anna Catharina SCHüTTE (1714-17940. She was born in Sage. In 1745, they moved to the RENKEN place in Grabstede. Another 7G grandparent, Helmerich KUHLMANN/KULEMANN (abt 1655-3 Feb 1711), also died in Wardenburg. Thank you! Marilyn Stulken Racine, Wisconsin
Date: 2006/08/03 22:38:48
From: David Otto <ddotto(a)adelphia.net>
I have an uncle (married to my mother's sister) whose name is Robert K. Schuette(sic) Sr. He is retired and was originally from Toledo OH. If you like, I can get you in touch with him. I do not think he is interested in genealogy, but he is an intelligent man (engineer) and is mentally very alert. Regards, David D. Otto **All Incoming and Outgoing email scanned with Norton 2006 Anti-Virus.
Date: 2006/08/03 23:19:53
From: David Otto <ddotto(a)adelphia.net>
Please see my post with the subject line "Schuette". It was meant for you, but I forgot to include your name or original subject line as the subject. Sorry to all members, David **All Incoming and Outgoing email scanned with Norton 2006 Anti-Virus.
Date: 2006/08/05 10:53:57
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Here two addresses in Grabstede, today part of Bockhorn: Köhne, Georg Hauptstr. 8 26345 Bockhorn Köhne, H. u. Lampe K. Hauptstr. 31 26345 Bockhorn Maybe your cousins :-) Good luck, Werner Honkomp > Hello, listers! > I saw Frank Speckmann's post from Wardenburg, and decided to write to see > if anyone can give me any further information about the following, or if I > might connect with some new cousins. > My 7G grandfather, Frerk KöHNE (c. 1622-1694), lived and died in > Wardenburg. > On 21 Aug 1659, he married Gebke KULEMANN/KUHLMANN (c. 1625-1707). She > was born in Sage. > My 6G grandfather, Gerd KöHNE (c. 1666-1731), lived and died in > Wardenburg. > On 10 Nov 1703, he married Gesche KUHLMANN (1661-1734). She lived and > died in Wardenburg. > My 5G grandfather, Friederich KöHNE (1713-1776), was born in Wardenburg. > On 15 Oct 1734, he married Anna Catharina SCHüTTE (1714-17940. She was > born in Sage. > In 1745, they moved to the RENKEN place in Grabstede. > Another 7G grandparent, Helmerich KUHLMANN/KULEMANN (abt 1655-3 Feb 1711), > also died in Wardenburg. > Thank you! > Marilyn Stulken > Racine, Wisconsin > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2006/08/05 15:17:42
From: mstulken <mstulken(a)wi.net>
Thanks, Werner! I'll give it a try. Greetings from Wisconsin, Marilyn
Date: 2006/08/06 07:55:27
From: Jan Timphaus <jan(a)timphaus.de>
Hallo Liste, ich habe wegen Systemumstellung / Hardwareänderung meine Email Adresse geändert. Ab sofort bin ich in Fragen der Ahnenforschung über folgende Adresse erreichbar: ahnenforschung(a)timphaus.de Gruß Jan Timphaus Hello List, in case of system change and hardware change i have change my email: genealogy(a)timphaus.de Regards Jan Timphaus
Date: 2006/08/06 12:12:48
From: gj.speckmann <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>
Dear Readers, Thanks to your help I have come to the next parenteel of my family, it is in Dutch, but probable not to difficult to read, please give me your comment and hopefully some more information, Best Regards, Gert-Jan Speckmann Parenteel van Hinrich Speckmann 1 Hinrich Speckmann. Hinrich trouwde met Maria Catharina Valenkamp. Kind van Hinrich en Maria Catharina: 1 Johann Speckmann, geboren op 16-08-1808 in Munderloh, Oldenburg, germany Volgt 1.1 <> . 1.1 Johann Speckmann is geboren op 16-08-1808 in Munderloh, Oldenburg, germany, zoon van Hinrich <> Speckmann en Maria Catharina Valenkamp. Johann is overleden op 08-04-1881 in Westerhold, Oldenburg, Germany, 72 jaar oud. Johann trouwde met Anna Catharine Wille. Anna Catharine is geboren op 18-02-1805 in Achternholt, Oldenburg, germany. Anna Catharine is overleden op 19-01-1875 in Westernholt, Oldenburg, Germany, 69 jaar oud. Kinderen van Johann en Anna Catharine: 1 Johann Harm Speckmann Volgt 1.1.1 <> . 2 Vrouw onbekend Speckmann Volgt 1.1.2 <> . 3 Vrouw onbekend Speckmann Volgt 1.1.3 <> . 4 Johann Diedrich Speckmann, geboren op 27-12-1843 in Oberlethe, Germany Volgt 1.1.4 <> . 5 Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann, geboren op 01-08-1846 in Oberlethe, Germany Volgt 1.1.5 <> . 1.1.1 Johann Harm Speckmann, zoon van Johann Speckmann <> en Anna Catharine Wille. Johann Harm trouwde in Westerhold, Wardenburg, Germany met Anna Catharine Drees. 1.1.2 Vrouw onbekend Speckmann, dochter van Johann Speckmann <> en Anna Catharine Wille. Vrouw onbekend trouwde in Hosune, Grossenkneten, Germany met Windmann. 1.1.3 Vrouw onbekend Speckmann, dochter van Johann Speckmann <> en Anna Catharine Wille. Vrouw onbekend trouwde in Hengstlage, Grossenkneten met Hinrich Osterhun. 1.1.4 Johann Diedrich Speckmann is geboren op 27-12-1843 in Oberlethe, Germany, zoon van Johann Speckmann <> en Anna Catharine Wille. Johann Diedrich is overleden op 14-05-1913 in Groningen, Netherlands, 69 jaar oud. Hij is begraven te Groningen, Netherlands. Johann Diedrich trouwde, 29 jaar oud, op 16-10-1873 in Groningen, Netherlands met Hendrekien Wolfgram, 24 jaar oud. Hendrekien is geboren op 07-01-1849 in Assen. Hendrekien is overleden op 27-03-1917 in Groningen, Netherlands, 68 jaar oud. Zij is begraven te Groningen, Netherlands. Kinderen van Johann Diedrich en Hendrekien: 1 Jentina Margaretha Speckmann, geboren op 24-07-1879 in Groningen, Netherlands. Jentina Margaretha is overleden op 18-07-1880 in Groningen, Netherlands, 11 maanden oud. Zij is begraven te Groningen, Netherlands. 2 Conrad Friedrich Speckmann, geboren op 27-04-1881 in Groningen, Netherlands. Conrad Friedrich is overleden op 03-03-1902 in Groningen, Netherlands, 20 jaar oud. Hij is begraven te Groningen, Netherlands. 3 Jentina Henderika Johanna Speckmann, geboren op 12-10-1883 in Groningen, Netherlands Volgt 1.1.4.1 <> . 1.1.4.1 Jentina Henderika Johanna Speckmann is geboren op 12-10-1883 in Groningen, Netherlands, dochter van Johann Diedrich Speckmann <> en Hendrekien Wolfgram. Jentina Henderika Johanna is overleden op 19-12-1959 in Arnhem, 76 jaar oud. Jentina Henderika Johanna trouwde, 25 jaar oud, op 20-05-1909 in Groningen, Netherlands met Willem Idema, 26 jaar oud. Willem is geboren op 20-08-1882 in Bedum. Willem is overleden op 15-11-1940 in Groningen, Netherlands, 58 jaar oud. 1.1.5 Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann is geboren op 01-08-1846 in Oberlethe, Germany, zoon van Johann Speckmann <> en Anna Catharine Wille. Bernhard Gerhard is overleden op 14-05-1923 in Groningen, Netherlands, 76 jaar oud. Bernhard Gerhard trouwde, 25 jaar oud, op 30-11-1871 in Groningen, Netherlands met Maria Elisabeth Pieke, 24 jaar oud. Maria Elisabeth is geboren op 15-10-1847 in Groningen, Netherlands. Maria Elisabeth is overleden op 26-04-1892, 44 jaar oud. Zij is begraven te Groningen, Netherlands. Kinderen van Bernhard Gerhard en Maria Elisabeth: 1 Johannes Diedrich Speckmann, geboren in 1872 in Groningen, Netherlands. Johannes Diedrich is overleden op 01-12-1955 in Groningen, Netherlands, 83 jaar oud. 2 Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann, geboren op 31-10-1873 in Groningen, Netherlands. Bernhard Gerhard is overleden op 14-01-1899 in Groningen, Netherlands, 25 jaar oud. 3 Herman Speckmann, geboren in 1875 in Groningen, Netherlands. Herman is overleden in 1958, 83 jaar oud. 4 Friedrich wilhelm Speckmann, geboren op 21-12-1877 in Groningen, Netherlands Volgt 1.1.5.1 <> . 5 Maria Johanna Speckmann, geboren in 1880 in Groningen, Netherlands Volgt 1.1.5.2 <> . 6 Albert Hendrik Speckmann, geboren in 1883 in Groningen, Netherlands Volgt 1.1.5.3 <> . 7 Hinderika Alberdina Speckmann, geboren op 24-05-1886 in Groningen, Netherlands Volgt 1.1.5.4 <> . 1.1.5.1 Friedrich wilhelm Speckmann is geboren op 21-12-1877 in Groningen, Netherlands, zoon van Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann <> en Maria Elisabeth Pieke. Friedrich wilhelm is overleden op 16-01-1958, 80 jaar oud. Friedrich wilhelm trouwde, 25 jaar oud, op 03-06-1903 in Amersfoort, Netherlands met Helena Meijer, 34 jaar oud. Helena is geboren in 1869 in Amersfoort, Netherlands. 1.1.5.2 Maria Johanna Speckmann is geboren in 1880 in Groningen, Netherlands, dochter van Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann <> en Maria Elisabeth Pieke. Maria Johanna is overleden op 22-09-1964, 84 jaar oud. Maria Johanna trouwde, 34 jaar oud, op 04-11-1914 in Amersfoort, Netherlands met Marinus Cornelis Weil, 28 jaar oud. Marinus Cornelis is geboren in 1886 in Gorinchem, Netherlands. Marinus Cornelis is overleden. 1.1.5.3 Albert Hendrik Speckmann is geboren in 1883 in Groningen, Netherlands, zoon van Bernhard <> Gerhard Speckmann en Maria Elisabeth Pieke. Albert Hendrik is overleden op 04-07-1973 in Assen, 90 jaar oud. Albert Hendrik: (1) trouwde, 27 jaar oud, op 14-07-1910 in Veendam met Gezine Henriette Everts, 28 jaar oud. Gezine Henriette is geboren in 1882 in Veendam. Gezine Henriette is overleden in 1915, 33 jaar oud. (2) trouwde, 33 jaar oud, op 10-08-1916 in Groningen, Netherlands met Cato Smith, 22 jaar oud. Cato is geboren in 1894 in Veendam , Netherlands. Cato is overleden in 1963, 69 jaar oud. Kinderen van Albert Hendrik en Cato: 1 Annette Elisabeth Speckmann, geboren in 1918 in Assen 2 Gerard Jan Speckmann, geboren op 09-06-1923 in Veendam 3 Johan Speckmann, geboren op 09-04-1935 in Groningen, Netherlands. 1.1.5.4 Hinderika Alberdina Speckmann is geboren op 24-05-1886 in Groningen, Netherlands, dochter van Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann <> en Maria Elisabeth Pieke. Hinderika Alberdina is overleden op 04-08-1977, 91 jaar oud. Hinderika Alberdina trouwde, 26 jaar oud, op 08-05-1913 in Groningen, Netherlands met Frederik Weil, 31 jaar oud. Frederik is geboren in 1882 in Gorinchem. Frederik is overleden.
Date: 2006/08/07 02:02:46
From: Betty & Jim Degen <degens(a)shaw.ca>
Seeking details of children born in Geestemunde between 1875-1885 to Johann Hinrich Barnstorf * 28.12.1853 and Olga Barnstorf (nee Michaelis ) *12.10.1850. .Thanks.........James Degen
Date: 2006/08/07 17:39:25
From: kathygilbert <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>
I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics 1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book? It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland (Allegany County), Maryland. If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I usually don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :) Kathy
Date: 2006/08/07 19:09:49
From: Hildegard Brümmer <h_br(a)gmx.de>
Oldenburgische Chronicon 1599. Eine Kopie des Originalbuches aus dem Jahre 1599 steht jetzt digital auf CD (PDF-Datei) zur Verfügung. (nicht vom Reprint). Die Geschichte Ostfrieslands von Onno Klopp von 1570 - 1751 ist ebenfalls digital fertig. erschienen im Jahre 1856). Bei interesse bitte nur meine private Mailadresse benutzen. - - - - - - h_br(a)gmx.de - - - - - - Danke und viele Grüße H. Bruemmer
Date: 2006/08/08 08:20:49
From: gj . speckmann <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>
Geachte Hildegard, I think this is very interesting, for me, can you tell me how to purchase these, mit freundlichen grussen, Gert-Jan Speckmann ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Hildegard Brümmer <h_br(a)gmx.de> Datum: maandag, augustus 7, 2006 7:09 pm Onderwerp: [OL] Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 > > Oldenburgische Chronicon 1599. > > Eine Kopie des Originalbuches aus dem Jahre 1599 > steht jetzt digital auf CD (PDF-Datei) zur Verfügung. (nicht vom > Reprint). > Die Geschichte Ostfrieslands von Onno Klopp von 1570 - 1751 ist > ebenfallsdigital fertig. > erschienen im Jahre 1856). > > Bei interesse bitte nur meine private Mailadresse benutzen. > > - - - - - - > h_br(a)gmx.de > - - - - - - > Danke und viele Grüße > > H. Bruemmer > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2006/08/08 14:17:50
From: Vince Rollman <pfalz33(a)adelphia.net>
Kathy, It is very nice of you to offer your time. Thank you! I'm looking for four families; Rollman (Rohlmann), Stranzel (Stranzler), Hanft (seen spelled too many ways), and Hesse (Hessen). I know all these families were Catholics in Cumberland. Thanks again for all you assistance. Tschu? Vince Rollman -----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net]On Behalf Of oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:00 AM To: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 33, Issue 9 Send Oldenburg-L mailing list submissions to oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to oldenburg-l-request(a)genealogy.net You can reach the person managing the list at oldenburg-l-owner(a)genealogy.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Oldenburg-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Western Maryland Catholics (kathygilbert) 2. Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 (Hildegard Br?mmer) 3. Re: Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 (gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:38:39 -0400 From: "kathygilbert" <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com> Subject: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics To: "bbOldenburg" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <01aa01c6ba37$8e82c420$0202a8c0(a)KAGDELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics 1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book? It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland (Allegany County), Maryland. If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I usually don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :) Kathy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:09:41 +0200 From: Hildegard Br?mmer <h_br(a)gmx.de> Subject: [OL] Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 To: <ogf-l(a)genealogy.net>, <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>, <compgend-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <HCEOLCNMMFDBDNGLFMLAEENFCDAA.h_br(a)gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oldenburgische Chronicon 1599. Eine Kopie des Originalbuches aus dem Jahre 1599 steht jetzt digital auf CD (PDF-Datei) zur Verf?gung. (nicht vom Reprint). Die Geschichte Ostfrieslands von Onno Klopp von 1570 - 1751 ist ebenfalls digital fertig. erschienen im Jahre 1856). Bei interesse bitte nur meine private Mailadresse benutzen. - - - - - - h_br(a)gmx.de - - - - - - Danke und viele Gr??e H. Bruemmer ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:20:42 +0200 From: gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl Subject: Re: [OL] Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Message-ID: <d825cf5d828304.d828304d825cf5(a)planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Geachte Hildegard, I think this is very interesting, for me, can you tell me how to purchase these, mit freundlichen grussen, Gert-Jan Speckmann ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Hildegard Br?mmer <h_br(a)gmx.de> Datum: maandag, augustus 7, 2006 7:09 pm Onderwerp: [OL] Oldenburgische Chronicon-1599 > > Oldenburgische Chronicon 1599. > > Eine Kopie des Originalbuches aus dem Jahre 1599 > steht jetzt digital auf CD (PDF-Datei) zur Verf?gung. (nicht vom > Reprint). > Die Geschichte Ostfrieslands von Onno Klopp von 1570 - 1751 ist > ebenfallsdigital fertig. > erschienen im Jahre 1856). > > Bei interesse bitte nur meine private Mailadresse benutzen. > > - - - - - - > h_br(a)gmx.de > - - - - - - > Danke und viele Gr??e > > H. Bruemmer > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > ------------------------------ ______________________________________________ Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l End of Oldenburg-L Digest, Vol 33, Issue 9 ******************************************
Date: 2006/08/10 06:35:39
From: SUSAN DAHL <susandahl(a)starstream.net>
Hi Kathy:
Thank you for your offer. Is there anything for the following people? As far as I can tell, these should all be in Cumberland
Julia Ann (Julianna) Rahrig - born Oct 1839
(Johann) Peter Rahrig & Anna Margaret Trueschler (or Dressler) - marriage about 1835
I've also seen the last name spelled Rairick, Rohrig.
Susan Dahl
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:38:39 -0400
> I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics
>1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book?
>
>It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland (Allegany
>County), Maryland.
>
>If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I usually
>don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :)
>
>Kathy
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Date: 2006/08/10 10:26:46
From: Jerry Koehne <jerrykoehne(a)msn.com>
Susan,
Would you look up the surname "Koehne" for me .
Thank Yoy,
jk
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Hi Kathy:
Thank you for your offer. Is there anything for the following people? As far as I can tell, these should all be in Cumberland
Julia Ann (Julianna) Rahrig - born Oct 1839
(Johann) Peter Rahrig & Anna Margaret Trueschler (or Dressler) - marriage about 1835
I've also seen the last name spelled Rairick, Rohrig.
Susan Dahl
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:38:39 -0400
> I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics
>1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book?
>
>It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland (Allegany
>County), Maryland.
>
>If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I usually
>don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :)
>
>Kathy
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Date: 2006/08/10 19:12:39
From: kathygilbert <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>
Susan,
Would you look up the surname "Koehne" for me .
Thank Yoy,
jk
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Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics
Hi Kathy:
Thank you for your offer. Is there anything for the following people? As far as I can tell, these should all be in Cumberland
Julia Ann (Julianna) Rahrig - born Oct 1839
(Johann) Peter Rahrig & Anna Margaret Trueschler (or Dressler) - marriage about 1835
I've also seen the last name spelled Rairick, Rohrig.
Susan Dahl
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From: "kathygilbert" <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com<mailto:kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>>
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:38:39 -0400
> I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics
>1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book?
>
>It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland (Allegany
>County), Maryland.
>
>If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I usually
>don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :)
>
>Kathy
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Date: 2006/08/10 20:32:08
From: Jerry Koehne <jerrykoehne(a)msn.com>
I am Clare's !'st cousin. Her name is now Holthaus. I don't know her Childrens names. ----- Original Message ----- From: kathygilbert<mailto:kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com> To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics Are you related to Clarita Koehne in Cincinnati, OH? She has a son named Jerry, I think. Will look up shortly and get back to you. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Koehne" <jerrykoehne(a)msn.com<mailto:jerrykoehne(a)msn.com>> To: <susandahl(a)starstream.net<mailto:susandahl(a)starstream.net>>; "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics > Susan, > Would you look up the surname "Koehne" for me . > Thank Yoy, > jk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SUSAN DAHL<mailto:susandahl(a)starstream.net<mailto:susandahl(a)starstream.net>> > To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogynet>> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics > > > Hi Kathy: > > Thank you for your offer. Is there anything for the following people? > As far as I can tell, these should all be in Cumberland > > Julia Ann (Julianna) Rahrig - born Oct 1839 > > (Johann) Peter Rahrig & Anna Margaret Trueschler (or Dressler) - marriage > about 1835 > > I've also seen the last name spelled Rairick, Rohrig. > > Susan Dahl > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "kathygilbert" > <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com<mailto:kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com<mailto:kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com<mailto:kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>>> > Reply-To: Oldenburg-L > <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>>> > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:38:39 -0400 > > > I have on loan from the Library the book "Western Maryland Catholics > >1819-1851." Does anyone need a lookup before I return the book? > > > >It contains marriages/baptisms/deaths, primarily for Cumberland > (Allegany > >County), Maryland. > > > >If so, please include "Maryland Catholics" in your subject line. I > usually > >don't open emails from people I don't know. :) :) > > > >Kathy > >Oldenburg-L mailing list > >Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > >http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.starstream.net > > > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net>> > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l>> > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l> Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net<mailto:Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l<http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l>
Date: 2006/08/10 20:52:44
From: kathygilbert <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>
Are you related to Clarita Koehne in Cincinnati, OH? She has a son named Jerry, I think.
Will look up shortly and get back to you.
Kathy
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To: <susandahl(a)starstream.net>; "Oldenburg-L" <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics
Susan,
Would you look up the surname "Koehne" for me .
Thank Yoy,
jk
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To: Oldenburg-L<mailto:oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OL] Western Maryland Catholics
Hi Kathy:
Thank you for your offer. Is there anything for the following people? As far as I can tell, these should all be in Cumberland
Julia Ann (Julianna) Rahrig - born Oct 1839
(Johann) Peter Rahrig & Anna Margaret Trueschler (or Dressler) - marriage
about 1835
I've also seen the last name spelled Rairick, Rohrig.
Susan Dahl
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Date: 2006/08/10 21:23:52
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
> I am Clare's !'st cousin. Her name is now Holthaus. I don't know her > Childrens names. The origin of Holthaus is Holthausen, a part of the small town Steinfeld in the Oldenburg province, where also the Honkomp's came from. Werner Honkomp, Oldenburg
Date: 2006/08/11 01:27:46
From: kathygilbert <kathygilbert(a)cinci.rr.com>
I am Clare's !'st cousin. Her name is now Holthaus. I don't know her Childrens names.
The origin of Holthaus is Holthausen, a part of the small town Steinfeld in the Oldenburg province, where also the Honkomp's came from.
Werner Honkomp, Oldenburg
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Date: 2006/08/12 17:02:11
From: gj.speckmann <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>
Dear Readers, In my search for my ancestors I have come to confusing data can some of your readers help me with this: Hinrich Speckmann born in Oberlethe 16-12-1761, died 22-04-1842 in Oberlethe Married 3-12-1794 in Wardenburg with Anna Catharine Hous, born in Westerhold 23-04-1777, died 06-11-1819 in oberlethe Son Johann Hinrich Speckmann borne 30-08-1799 died 22-10-1865 Married at 10-11-1824 in Wardenburg to Catharine Sophere Wille born 05-01-1799 Their doughter Catharine Sophere Speckmann borne 20-03-1834 in Oberlethe, died 13-05-1861 in Oberlethe Married 26-08-1856 in Wardenburg to Johann Berend Lienemann, born 05-05-1826 in Oberlethe, died 23-11-1908 Johann Berend Lienemann's parents were Berend Lienemann born 30-12-1795, died 15-03-1828 married 30-04-1819 in Wardenburg to Maria Catharine Neumann, born 19-12-1793, died 15-08-1856 The Grandparents of Johann Berend were Berend Lienemann, born 23-08-1761, died 08-03-1805 married at 13-11-1794 to Anna Marie Speckmann, born 24-02-1769, died 29-12-1807 The other data set: Hinrich Speckmann born in Oberlethe 16-12-1761, died 22-04-1842 in Oberlethe Married with Maria Catharine Valenkamp Son Johann Speckmann born 16-08-1808 Munderloh, Hatten , died 08-04-1881 in Westerholt married 20-04-1829 in Wardenburg to Anna Catharine Wille, born 18-02-1805 in Achternholt, died 19-01-1875 in Westerholt I am not sure about the relations and to who Hirich Speckmann was married to. Thanks in advance for your reply Gert-Jan Speckmann
Date: 2006/08/14 22:38:48
From: Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1(a)ewetel.net>
Ewald Köhne Am Brink 1 26203 Wardenburg
From this farm came all Köhne´s in Wardenburg.
Greetings from Wardenburg to Wisconsin Frank Speckmann
Hello, listers!
I saw Frank Speckmann's post from Wardenburg, and decided to write to see if anyone can give me any further information about the following, or if I might connect with some new cousins.
My 7G grandfather, Frerk KöHNE (c. 1622-1694), lived and died in Wardenburg.
On 21 Aug 1659, he married Gebke KULEMANN/KUHLMANN (c. 1625-1707). She
was born in Sage.
My 6G grandfather, Gerd KöHNE (c. 1666-1731), lived and died in Wardenburg.
On 10 Nov 1703, he married Gesche KUHLMANN (1661-1734). She lived and
died in Wardenburg.
My 5G grandfather, Friederich KöHNE (1713-1776), was born in Wardenburg. On 15 Oct 1734, he married Anna Catharina SCHüTTE (1714-17940. She was born in Sage. In 1745, they moved to the RENKEN place in Grabstede.
Another 7G grandparent, Helmerich KUHLMANN/KULEMANN (abt 1655-3 Feb 1711), also died in Wardenburg.
Thank you!
Marilyn Stulken
Racine, Wisconsin
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Date: 2006/08/14 22:39:06
From: Vince Rollman <pfalz33(a)adelphia.net>
Hallo Liste, Thank you all for your help! I have a question about my family name. In the Catholic church records of Neuenkirchen I first found Joannes Gerhard Rohlmann circa 1748, but then found his name Joannes Gerd Beyder Hake (Haeke?) condictus Rohlmann. The name Rolf Beyder Hake also appears. The records continue to show Rolf Beyder Hake or just Beyder Hake for generations. For example Joannes Gerh's grandson is named Joannes Bernardus Henricus Rohlmann swe Rolf bey der Hake. I've also seen Rolf Beyder Hake and Rohlmann used interchangeably. I beleive the name Rohlmann (Rollman) is derived from Rolf, but I don't understand why the name Beyder Hake or Rolf Beyder Hake continue to follow the family name. Could this be a place? I've also seen Rolfs vor der Hake. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ciao, Vince Rollman
Date: 2006/08/16 18:51:31
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
Liebe Liste, wer hat Zugang zu der OSB Varel CD und könnte etwas für mich nachschauen? Grüße aus Schwabenland, Andrea (Korbanka)
Date: 2006/08/16 19:11:54
From: Barbara Eckrath <knickmann(a)gmx.net>
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Date: 2006/08/16 19:41:42
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Hello Vince, I'm not sure where the name Rollmann/Rohlmann came from maybe it is derived from Rolf. Because the farm namend since 1803 or before "Rolf bei der Hake" (former Byder Hake). Hake is a barrier or a gate, means; Rolf lived on a place by the barrier or gate. Later it formed to the surname of his family. Of course this name is very long and it could be that the shortened form Rol-man developed. "vor der Hake" is the same; "before the gat/barrier. A tax register at 1661 listed as Kötter (cottage): Johan bei der Hake et uxor I hope it helped. Sinverely, Werner > Hallo Liste, > Thank you all for your help! I have a question about my family name. In > the > Catholic church records of Neuenkirchen I first found Joannes Gerhard > Rohlmann circa 1748, but then found his name Joannes Gerd Beyder Hake > (Haeke?) condictus Rohlmann. The name Rolf Beyder Hake also appears. The > records continue to show Rolf Beyder Hake or just Beyder Hake for > generations. For example Joannes Gerh's grandson is named Joannes > Bernardus > Henricus Rohlmann swe Rolf bey der Hake. I've also seen Rolf Beyder Hake > and > Rohlmann used interchangeably. I beleive the name Rohlmann (Rollman) is > derived from Rolf, but I don't understand why the name Beyder Hake or Rolf > Beyder Hake continue to follow the family name. Could this be a place? > I've > also seen Rolfs vor der Hake. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Ciao, > Vince Rollman > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2006/08/16 23:33:50
From: Adde <adstabel(a)pandora.be>
Hi Andrea - was möchtest Du wissen? Gruß Adde -----Original Message----- From: oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:oldenburg-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Andrea Korbanka Sent: woensdag 16 augustus 2006 18:51 To: Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net Subject: [OL] CD OSB Varel Liebe Liste, wer hat Zugang zu der OSB Varel CD und könnte etwas für mich nachschauen? Grüße aus Schwabenland, Andrea (Korbanka) Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 16/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 16/08/2006
Date: 2006/08/17 09:25:48
From: Joe Atherton <buffys97(a)earthlink.net>
I have been researching my Darenkamp family in the Cloppenburg, Lankum, Krapendorf, Nutteln areas for many years and have hit a roadblock. Most of my work has been done using LDS film. In the Status Animarum of 1750, (LDS microfilm 0896278) I found my Darenkamp family of Nutteln: Gerard, age 50 and Veronica, age 60. In 1770, I found burial notations of Gerard Darenkamp, age 68 on May 28 and Anna Darenkamp, age 77 the following day. So there are two records which indicate my ancestor was born in the early 1700s. (LDS film 0909936) Also in LDS microfilm 0909936, I found the baptism of a Gerard Darenkamp, from Nutteln, on February 12, 1702. His parents were listed given: Meinard Darenkamp and Anna (I cant read the last name. Looks like Balman, but probably isnt. It is on page 156, top left entry of this page). I can live with the ages being a few years off, but I have trouble with the discrepancy between "Veronica" given as the wife in the Status Animarum and "Anna" listed on the other two records. However, in both instances, the wife is 10 years (or nearly so) older than the husband, so it is probably the same family -- I guess. These church records of the early 1700s and late 1600s are difficult to read and they get harder the further back I go. Can anyone recommend another resource for me to continue searching for these ancestors? A professional genealogist is not an avenue I can afford right now, and besides, finding them myself is exciting. Im convinced there is no connection at this time (early 1700s) between my family and the Darrenkamp (now Quatmann) family in Tenstedt. I have been in contact with them. There probably is a connection, but they havent found one and so far neither have I. Thanks, Buffy buffys97(a)earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.
Date: 2006/08/17 11:08:25
From: Ruth Decker <ruth.decker(a)gmx.de>
I have been researching my Darenkamp family in the Cloppenburg, Lankum, Krapendorf, Nutteln areas for many years and have hit a roadblock. Most of my work has been done using LDS film.
In the Status Animarum of 1750, (LDS microfilm 0896278) I found my Darenkamp family of Nutteln: Gerard, age 50 and Veronica, age 60.
In 1770, I found burial notations of Gerard Darenkamp, age 68 on May 28 and Anna Darenkamp, age 77 the following day. So there are two records which indicate my ancestor was born in the early 1700s. (LDS film 0909936)
Also in LDS microfilm 0909936, I found the baptism of a Gerard Darenkamp, from Nutteln, on February 12, 1702. His parents were listed given: Meinard Darenkamp and Anna (I can’t read the last name. Looks like Balman, but probably isn’t. It is on page 156, top left entry of this page).
I can live with the ages being a few years off, but I have trouble with the discrepancy between "Veronica" given as the wife in the Status Animarum and "Anna" listed on the other two records. However, in both instances, the wife is 10 years (or nearly so) older than the husband, so it is probably the same family -- I guess.
These church records of the early 1700s and late 1600s are difficult to read and they get harder the further back I go. Can anyone recommend another resource for me to continue searching for these ancestors? A professional genealogist is not an avenue I can afford right now, and besides, finding them myself is exciting.
I’m convinced there is no connection at this time (early 1700s) between my family and the Darrenkamp (now Quatmann) family in Tenstedt. I have been in contact with them. There probably is a connection, but they haven’t found one and so far neither have I.
Thanks, Buffy
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Date: 2006/08/17 11:24:56
From: Hermann Oltmanns <Oltmanns-Soest(a)T-Online.de>
Hallo Andrea, die OFB-Varel-CD ist immer noch erhältlich. Es lohnt sich, diese bei der OGF zu erwerben. Preis: 25,- Euro + Versandkosten. Gruß aus Soest Hermann "Andrea Korbanka" <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com> schrieb: > Liebe Liste, > wer hat Zugang zu der OSB Varel CD und könnte etwas für mich nachschauen? > Grüße aus Schwabenland, Andrea (Korbanka) > > > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l >
Date: 2006/08/17 14:50:07
From: Vince Rollman <pfalz33(a)adelphia.net>
Danke schon Werner, This explains much. I was wondering if the records show where this farm was/is in relation to Neuenkirchen. Is the farm still there today? Tschu?, Vince Hello Vince, I'm not sure where the name Rollmann/Rohlmann came from maybe it is derived from Rolf. Because the farm namend since 1803 or before "Rolf bei der Hake" (former Byder Hake). Hake is a barrier or a gate, means; Rolf lived on a place by the barrier or gate. Later it formed to the surname of his family. Of course this name is very long and it could be that the shortened form Rol-man developed. "vor der Hake" is the same; "before the gat/barrier. A tax register at 1661 listed as K?tter (cottage): Johan bei der Hake et uxor I hope it helped. Sinverely, Werner > Hallo Liste, > Thank you all for your help! I have a question about my family name. In > the > Catholic church records of Neuenkirchen I first found Joannes Gerhard > Rohlmann circa 1748, but then found his name Joannes Gerd Beyder Hake > (Haeke?) condictus Rohlmann. The name Rolf Beyder Hake also appears. The > records continue to show Rolf Beyder Hake or just Beyder Hake for > generations. For example Joannes Gerh's grandson is named Joannes > Bernardus > Henricus Rohlmann swe Rolf bey der Hake. I've also seen Rolf Beyder Hake > and > Rohlmann used interchangeably. I beleive the name Rohlmann (Rollman) is > derived from Rolf, but I don't understand why the name Beyder Hake or Rolf > Beyder Hake continue to follow the family name. Could this be a place? > I've > also seen Rolfs vor der Hake. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Ciao, > Vince Rollman *******************************************
Date: 2006/08/17 20:25:08
From: Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1(a)ewetel.net>
Greetings from Wardenburg Frank Speckmann
Dear Readers,
In my search for my ancestors I have come to confusing data can some of your readers help me with this:
Hinrich Speckmann born in Oberlethe 16-12-1761, died 22-04-1842 in Oberlethe
Married 3-12-1794 in Wardenburg with Anna Catharine Hous, born in Westerhold 23-04-1777, died 06-11-1819 in oberlethe
Son Johann Hinrich Speckmann borne 30-08-1799 died 22-10-1865
Married at 10-11-1824 in Wardenburg to Catharine Sophere Wille born 05-01-1799
Their doughter Catharine Sophere Speckmann borne 20-03-1834 in Oberlethe,
died 13-05-1861 in Oberlethe
Married 26-08-1856 in Wardenburg to Johann Berend Lienemann, born 05-05-1826 in Oberlethe, died 23-11-1908
Johann Berend Lienemann's parents were
Berend Lienemann born 30-12-1795, died 15-03-1828 married 30-04-1819 in Wardenburg to Maria Catharine Neumann, born 19-12-1793, died 15-08-1856
The Grandparents of Johann Berend were
Berend Lienemann, born 23-08-1761, died 08-03-1805 married at 13-11-1794 to
Anna Marie Speckmann, born 24-02-1769, died 29-12-1807
The other data set:
Hinrich Speckmann born in Oberlethe 16-12-1761, died 22-04-1842 in Oberlethe
Married with Maria Catharine Valenkamp
Son Johann Speckmann born 16-08-1808 Munderloh, Hatten , died 08-04-1881 in
Westerholt married 20-04-1829 in Wardenburg to Anna Catharine Wille, born
18-02-1805 in Achternholt, died 19-01-1875 in Westerholt
I am not sure about the relations and to who Hirich Speckmann was married to.
Thanks in advance for your reply
Gert-Jan Speckmann
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Date: 2006/08/17 20:33:49
From: Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1(a)ewetel.net>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Frank Speckmann
Hallo, die Brüder Bernhard Gerhard und Johann Dietrich Speckmann
*1843/1846 können eigentlich nicht Kinder von Catharina Sophia Wille sein,
da diese Dame bereits 1794 ( ! ) geboren wurde, sie wäre also bei den
Geburten 49 bzw. 52 Jahre alt gewesen. Ihre Hochzeit war 1824 und ihre
übrigen Kinder wurden zwischen 1825 und 1832 geboren. Andere Ehen
"Speckmann/ Wille" sind aus dieser Zeit nicht bekannt. Freundliche Grüße
Wierhake.----- Original Message ----- From: "gj.speckmann" <gj.speckmann(a)planet.nl>
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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [OL] Speckmann
Dear readers, > As in my search I have come to the next problem in the dutch GENLIAS database: > My great Grandfather: Bernhard Gerhard Speckmann was born 01-08-1846 in Oberlethe, Germany, he moved to Groningen , Netherlands and married Maria Elisabeth Pieke. His parents were Johann Speckmann and Catharine Wille.
I have also found an Johann Diedrich Speckmann, born 27-12-1843 in Oberlethe, Germany, he also moved to Groningen and married Hendrekien Wolfgram. His parents were Johann Speckmann and Margarethe Wille.
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Date: 2006/08/17 20:37:34
From: Frank Speckmann <frank.speckmann1(a)ewetel.net>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Wardenburg Frank Speckmann
Moin,
I'm looking for connections to the recent listed people.
In my charts I have the following ones:
- Hermann Diedrich WILLE, called SPECKMANN, born May 10, 1797 (illegitimate) near Wardenburg, Germany, died March 27, 1850; his father could have been Hermann Diedrich SPECKMANN, the mother was Anne Margrete WILLE.
- Catharina Margrete WILLE, born September 25, 1795 Achternholt (parish of Wardenburg) as daughter of Meinert WILLE and his wife Anne Maria nee NEUMANN.
Thanks,
Hans-Georg Boyken
Titonka, IA 50480-0269, USA
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Date: 2006/08/17 22:14:41
From: Betty & Jim Degen <degens(a)shaw.ca>
Dear List Members, Does any one have an existing photo or engraving of the Martime Court/Centre of Brake in the 1850 period that could be sent to me. Thanks and regards...James Degen
Date: 2006/08/18 19:10:53
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
Date: 2006/08/18 22:12:54
From: Jochen Behrmann <jochen.behrmann(a)ewetel.net>
Viele Grüsse aus der Stadt Oldenburg im (ehemaligen) Land Oldenburg Jochen (Behrmann)
Liebe Liste!
Hat jemand vielleicht das Buch "Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse und Einwohnerlisten der Stadt Wildeshausen" von Albrecht Eckhardt und könnte etwas für mich nachschauen?
Grüße aus Schwaben, Andrea (Korbanka)
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Date: 2006/08/19 01:41:15
From: Betty & Jim Degen <degens(a)shaw.ca>
I have some details of Diedrick Muller, 2 nd carpenter and Wilhelm Kroger A.B. who deserted the 3 masted wooden sail ship "Armin" Master Rosenthall,on 13 October 1856 in Port Jackson, Australia..If anyone on list is interested please respond....James Degen
Date: 2006/08/19 10:52:48
From: Cour10ayMN <Cour10ayMN(a)aol.com>
Hallo List, We need some assistance in reading old handwriting from late 1700s and early 1800s church records. There is a first letter of a word that looks like a 2 in modern handwriting. "Ludovicus de Heise Wa??is (or in) im gu(or gri)unreadable von 2umbarland." (Or what looks to be barland - it may be barlant or barlaut.) Do any of you have an idea about that 2 looking letter? The 2 has a curl on the top if that helps. Also, in the old handwriting, was the overstrike over the letter u as common as it is today? Thanks for any assistance. Courtenay Ochs
Date: 2006/08/19 11:08:13
From: GDiers9488 <GDiers9488(a)aol.com>
Hello, if you send me a scan of that handwritten page, I will try to help you. Gerold Diers
Date: 2006/08/19 15:36:51
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Could it be "Cumberland" in Maryland? Former the "u" was allways overstrike. Werner > Hallo List, > We need some assistance in reading old handwriting from late 1700s and > early > 1800s church records. > There is a first letter of a word that looks like a 2 in modern > handwriting. > "Ludovicus de Heise Wa??is (or in) im gu(or gri)unreadable von > 2umbarland." > (Or what looks to be barland - it may be barlant or barlaut.) > Do any of you have an idea about that 2 looking letter? The 2 has a curl > on > the top if that helps. Also, in the old handwriting, was the overstrike > over > the letter u as common as it is today? > Thanks for any assistance. > Courtenay Ochs > Oldenburg-L mailing list > Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
Date: 2006/08/19 18:40:46
From: E. Bomhof <ebomhof(a)xs4all.nl>
Liebe Leute, Meine Name ist Bert Bomhof aus Holland,seit mehrere Jahren sammele ich für meine Genealogie die Namen Bomhof irgendwo sollte ein Anschluss sein mit Deutschland aber bisher habe ich noch nicht gefunden. Jetzt habe ich angefangen mit alle Namen Bomhof, Bonhof ,Boomhof, Bonhoffer,Boemhove,Baumhove und noch viele Varianten darauf zu suchen in Deutschland in besonderes, Westfalen, Niedersachsen und Schleswig Holstein und Rheinland. Wer kann mir helfen, wer hat schon die Name in die Genealogie Jeder Antwort bringt mir vielleicht weiter. MfG Bert Bomhof
Date: 2006/08/19 21:47:19
From: GDiers9488 <GDiers9488(a)aol.com>
Hallo Andrea, ich bezweifle, daß es ein solches Buch (Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse und Einwohnerlisten der Stadt Wildeshausen von Albrecht Eckhardt) gibt. Was es gibt, ist das Buch 'Wildeshausen - Geschichte der Stadt von den Anfängen bis zum ausgehenden 20. Jahrhundert', von Albrecht Eckhardt. In diesem Buch werden die Einwohnerverzeichnisse erwähnt. Von den frühen Verzeichnissen seien hier erwähnt: Kirchspielschatzung von 1534 Willkommschatzung von 1568 Kirchspielschatzung von 1600 es folgen dann weitere im 17. Jahrhundert. Die beiden ersten Einwohnerverzeichnisse sind übrigens übertragen und können bei der Oldenburgischen Gesellschaft für Familienkunde als Hefte erworben werden _www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de_ (http://www.familienkunde-oldenburg.de) - Shop. Die jüngeren Verzeichnisse kann man im Staatsarchiv Oldenburg einsehen. Viele Grüße Gerold Diers, Oldb. Gesellschaft für Familienkunde e.V.
Date: 2006/08/19 22:07:34
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
From: Jochen Behrmann <jochen.behrmann(a)ewetel.net>
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To: Oldenburg-L <oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [OL] Wildeshausen: Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse und Einwohnerlisten
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:14:14 +0200
Hallo Andrea,
ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass dieses Buch in der Oldenburgischen Landesbibliothek vorhanden ist. Wenn es nicht "uppstunns" (plattdeutsch) sein muss, kann ich dort bei Gelegenheit nachsehen. Dafür wäre es sinnvoll, wenn ich wüsste, wonach ich suchen soll....
Viele Grüsse aus der Stadt Oldenburg im (ehemaligen) Land Oldenburg Jochen (Behrmann)
Andrea Korbanka schrieb:
>Liebe Liste! >Hat jemand vielleicht das Buch "Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse und >Einwohnerlisten der Stadt Wildeshausen" von Albrecht Eckhardt und könnte >etwas für mich nachschauen? >Grüße aus Schwaben, Andrea (Korbanka) > > >Oldenburg-L mailing list >Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net >http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l > > > >
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Date: 2006/08/19 22:55:34
From: Cour10ayMN <Cour10ayMN(a)aol.com>
Greetings List, A fellower lister kindly deciphered and translated an entry from a church record for me, and now I am trying to figure out what it all means. "'Wachtmeister im Husarenregiment von Kumberland'" Constable? Officer? Police? in the Hussar regiment from Kumberland? I have looked through gazetteers from the time and connot find anything like "Kumberland". Is there a way to find out which Husarenregiment were from where? Any help would be most appreciated. Courtenay
Date: 2006/08/20 06:27:08
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>
Your talking about the Cumberland Hussars. http://web2.airmail.net/napoleon/Waterloo_Cowards.html
They were a regiment of Hanoverians who were seen leaving the battlefield early on and when an Aide sent by Wellington asked their colonel why he said that his men were all volunteers who had paid for their own uniforms and horses and that he had no confidence in them and was therefore taking them back to Brussels.
Greetings List,
A fellower lister kindly deciphered and translated an entry from a church record for me, and now I am trying to figure out what it all means.
"'Wachtmeister im Husarenregiment von Kumberland'"
Constable? Officer? Police? in the Hussar regiment from Kumberland?
I have looked through gazetteers from the time and connot find anything like "Kumberland". Is there a way to find out which Husarenregiment were from where?
Any help would be most appreciated.
Courtenay Oldenburg-L mailing list Oldenburg-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/oldenburg-l
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Date: 2006/08/20 07:15:56
From: Bernd Salewski <Salewski.Hambergen(a)freenet.de>
Gruß Bernd
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Date: 2006/08/20 15:56:06
From: Cour10ayMN <Cour10ayMN(a)aol.com>
Dear List, Thanks to all of you for your help with deciphering and explaining the Husarregiment. I followed your link, Fred, and it is possible my guy was a part of that battle, but the only date I can verify for his involvement with them is 1814. I did come across a list of the King's German Legion troops injured in those battles and saw the name Ludwig de Heise listed, so perhaps he was still there and was wounded at either Quatre Bas or Waterloo in 1815. Thanks again. You all are great! Courtenay
Date: 2006/08/21 04:50:20
From: Margot King <margot.king(a)ca.inter.net>
Margot King margot.king(a)ca.inter.net
Date: 2006/08/21 10:57:18
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
Dear Margot, maybe this website is helpful: http://www.honkomp.de/damme-auswanderung/heuerman.htm Have a nice day, Werner Honkomp > Dear List Members, > Although I know that the topics of Heuerleute and Leibzucht have been > covered on several occasions over the past few years, I am still not > sure how I should characterize Meyer-Holzgrefe in Bokern, Damme where > my Bergmann and Handorf ancestors came from.
Date: 2006/08/21 11:25:57
From: elke behrens <elke.m.behrens(a)uni-oldenburg.de>
Grüße aus Oldenburg Elke Behrens
Liebe Liste! Hat jemand vielleicht das Buch "Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse und Einwohnerlisten der Stadt Wildeshausen" von Albrecht Eckhardt und könnte etwas für mich nachschauen? Grüße aus Schwaben, Andrea (Korbanka)
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Date: 2006/08/21 18:10:47
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>
Although I know that the topics of Heuerleute and Leibzucht have been covered on several occasions over the past few years, I am still not sure how I should characterize Meyer-Holzgrefe in Bokern, Damme where my Bergmann and Handorf ancestors came from.
Werner's link is an excellent resource on the whole topic but one must warn that history was local back then and circumstances in one area do not necessarily translate for another. In general, the Heuersystem grew out of the need to keep farms whole. Only one heir could inherit the farm and the rest of the children had to either marry into another farm, settle as field hands on the parent farm or become Heuerleute (somewhere) if they wanted to marry and have children of their own. Once the switch to Heuermann was made it was extremely difficult to reverse the process for the children. They simply took on the status of their parents and made do as best they could. The only opening was a marriage into an existing heirloom.
As the link illustrates, the Leibzucht was a somewhat open ended affair but it always would have started out as a status for the aging parents who needed a place to live as their heir needed the space for his own family. We need to place an image of the typical farmhouse into our consciousness. It contained a few cubicles for sleeping and a large room which served for everything else. This room was simply the other side of the stable where the animals lived in the same house. The roof was vented to allow the smoke form the open fire or fireplace to escape but cooking was pretty much out in the open. The village museum of Cloppenburg contains 50 buildings which were removed to there from their original locations. They show what living was like in the 16th to 20th century. Many of the buildings shown are the biggest and grandest farm houses ever built in the Oldenburger Münsterland but even the noble estate house is not the castle one might expect but rather a large farm house with some amenities. Sadly the website does not show much of what exists there. I guess they want you to visit in person instead. http://www.museumsdorf.de
Since I'm off on a sidetrack - only the very largest of farmhouses contained a separating wall between the animals and the living quarters. The Quatmannshof in the Cloppenburg museum is one of these very large houses. It was built in 1803 in Elsten in the parish of Cappeln. What we have here is basically three sleeping rooms each containing a number of alcoves where one would retreat to for the night. Then there we