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Lars Behme
Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany
Datum 2008/06/21 11:02:03
Brouwers
Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany
2008/06/21 11:02:03
Brouwers
Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany
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Ursula B. Adamson
Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany
2008/06/30 23:35:59
brigitte schymura
[HN] Meine Suche nach KÖNEMANN
Autor 2008/06/21 11:02:03
Brouwers
Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany

Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany

Date: 2008/06/21 07:00:30
From: Brouwers <anmaristin(a)zeelandnet.nl>

I don't think that our goverment lets the old country know as a rule, maybe
some countrties insist on being informed and then I think it would go to
their homeland's consulte closest to the area,  every country has one or
more  consulte were they can go for a new pasport etc. there is atleast one
in N.Y., L.A. and Chicago that I know of  because not all imigrantes took
the U.S.citzenship, some remained German to their dying day. As to
inhertance I don't think they were exculded from inherting but that it was
inpractical because it was mostly land they inherited and how would you
manage it if you are a sea away, it is also possible that the person had to
take phyical possesion in other words live on the estate, if it is Germany
it went to the oldest child either boy or girl the land would not be
divided,(so the other brothers and sisters received nothing as of the 1700
or 1800's, before that time they would receive a part of the estate if only
on the deed  and received a part of any profits, but it would not be spilt
but it would still be only one who was the inheritor  who lived there and
ran it and made the decisions) it was keep as a whole, and the one intiteled
could accept or reject, then it went to the next in line if rejected. If the
one to inheit the property already married and thur his wife he had an
estate he would reject  his inheritance unless he decided that his family
estate was much better then his wife's then she would pass hers on to the
next in her line but I don't think this happened much. Unless you are
talking about lesser royality they owned property all over the place but
they were responseable for imploying someone to run the property.  Just my
take on things, maybe that someone in the group knows the legal rules of
that time and can inform you better.    Anna Marie
----- Original Message -----
From: "jo meyer" <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:12 PM
Subject: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany



Hello,
I am hoping someone can help me with my  dumb  question.

  Fritz Meyer [ Juergen  Heinrich Friedrich Meyer and two sisters from
Oldendorf] is persuaded to come to america in 1869. He goes through the
channels to make sure everything is correct. He is close to military age. He
has documents at AIDA that says he has taken care of his money obligation
and his father has consented and all that. Any one of age would probably not
have to do all that in order to leave. When they do all that are they saying
to their country that they have no plans on coming back. Or do they leave
there with implication that probably they are not coming back. [I would
think if you are near military age you would not want to hint you are not
coming back.]

Then after about six years around 1875 or so he becomes a citizen. I suppose
the laws of naturalization  may be why Fritz chose to live  and work in Iowa
rather than Jo Daviess Illinois. He must have decided early on to  live in
Iowa.
They renounce to u.s.a. that they are no longer under the government of the
hannover or Prussia - germany what ever it may be. How does germany
government learn of this naturalization. Are letters sent from the new
citizen or from our government to theirs. Or is it just something that they
do when they leave.
They often visit when they leave. And they can no longer inherit there. Some
do if they are not a citizen.

So if you can understand what I have written here, can you help me
understand or make sense of this process. where would be the best place to
read of this.
Does anyone know.?
Thanks
jo
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