hannover-l - Nachricht 2008-06 00135

[Lars Behme <lbehme(a)gmx.net>]

Hi Jo,

The concept of dual citizenship wasn't known back then.
Hanover had already ceased to be a sovereign kingdom, and was a Prussian
Province in 1869, and 1875.
The Austro-Prussian War was in full blossom when your ancestor went to the
US. 

Like Don, I very much doubt that the US government had those detailed
diplomatic relations with the Kingdom of Prussia.
Have you considered checking naturalization documents, and passport
application books ? You can get most at ancestry.com - use the trial
membership, and bail out before the big bill comes. You should be able to
grab all relevant documents within the trial period.

----
As for my ancestor - he stayed in Illinois, because he wanted to stay in
Illinois. His brother and uncle left Indiana while their time for
naturalization was counting - so that cannot have been a reason. Other
relatives followed the Gold to California - and were naturalized years later
(not in Illinois).
My ancestor did not have to renounce his German citizenship, and held both
passports until WW II when he joined US forces, and chose not to renew his
German passport. There was no letter sent to any government. He entered the
US under age, and the authorities in Germany knew he had left. He was
allowed to return on a US passport.
He was entitled to inherit in Germany - I know, since my great-grandfather
had split his cake amongst his relatives in Germany and abroad in 1972 - so
even my uncle's children and grandchildren got a piece.

My best bet would be ancestry.com...


Thanks,
\Lars

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Subject: Re: [HN] Immigration, naturalization,Renounce citizenship of
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Hi Jo,
    I don't have any "official" information about your question, but I 
doubt that
there would be any notification by the US government concerning an
immigrant's
new citizenship.   I suspect that the American passport a US citizen carries
when he traveled overseas would establish his citizenship status.
(However,
that would not protect him from the draft if he were of draft age  ...
foreign
citizens living in the US were drafted into the US Army during WW II.  Ditto
for American citizens visiting Japan and , I believe, Germany).
    Don Roddy
    Jacksonville, Florida USA


----- Message from gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com ---------
     Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:12:30 +0000
     From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
  Subject: [HN] Immigration, naturalization, Renounce citizenship of germany
       To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net


>
>
> Hello,
> I am hoping someone can help me with my  dumb  question.
>
>   Fritz Meyer [ Juergen  Heinrich Friedrich Meyer and two sisters 
> from Oldendorf] is persuaded to come to america in 1869. He goes 
> through the channels to make sure everything is correct. He is close 
> to military age. He has documents at AIDA that says he has taken care 
> of his money obligation and his father has consented and all that. 
> Any one of age would probably not have to do all that in order to 
> leave. When they do all that are they saying to their country that 
> they have no plans on coming back. Or do they leave there with 
> implication that probably they are not coming back. [I would think if 
> you are near military age you would not want to hint you are not 
> coming back.]
>
> Then after about six years around 1875 or so he becomes a citizen. I 
> suppose the laws of naturalization  may be why Fritz chose to live  
> and work in Iowa rather than Jo Daviess Illinois. He must have 
> decided early on to  live in Iowa.
> They renounce to u.s.a. that they are no longer under the government 
> of the hannover or Prussia - germany what ever it may be. How does 
> germany government learn of this naturalization. Are letters sent 
> from the new citizen or from our government to theirs. Or is it just 
> something that they do when they leave.
> They often visit when they leave. And they can no longer inherit 
> there. Some do if they are not a citizen.
>
> So if you can understand what I have written here, can you help me 
> understand or make sense of this process. where would be the best 
> place to read of this.
> Does anyone know.?
> Thanks
> jo
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