Date: 2008/01/01 03:31:55
From: Pam Sullivan <hope9(a)comcast.net>
Happy New Year to all Enjoy world wide party photos from USA FOX news http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2988,00.html#1_55 Pam Homeyer Sullivan Little Rock USA
Date: 2008/01/01 03:35:42
From: maryjane O'C-L <maryjane_ocl(a)hotmail.com>
A very Happy New Year to you too Pam and to Everyone on this list, May 2008 bring you all Health and Happiness. MaryJane ...Suffolk UK> From: hope9(a)comcast.net> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:31:41 -0600> Subject: [HN] Happy new year to all> > Happy New Year to all> Enjoy world wide party photos from USA FOX news> > http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2988,00.html#1_55> > Pam Homeyer Sullivan> Little Rock USA> > ______________________________________________> > Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml
Date: 2008/01/01 04:34:31
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
We are 1 1/2 hours from our New Year! Much love, peace and happinesws to all. Alexandra ----- Original Message ---- From: Pam Sullivan <hope9(a)comcast.net> To: "Hannover-L(a)Genealogy. Net" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:31:41 PM Subject: [HN] Happy new year to all Happy New Year to all Enjoy world wide party photos from USA FOX news http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2988,00.html#1_55 Pam Homeyer Sullivan Little Rock USA ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2008/01/01 09:44:48
From: Peter Meister <meisterphh(a)googlemail.com>
Hallo, üner den Link www.familienkunde-niedersachsen.de findest Du einen Link des Genealogen Ewig, Familienforscher im Calenberger Land. Dort könntest Du fündig werden. LG Peter Meister NS Allen Mitgliedern der Mailing-Liste wünsche ich ein glückliches erfolgreiches Neues Jahr.. Am 31.12.07 schrieb Hansdieter Behnke <hansdieter.behnke(a)t-online.de>: > > Hallo, > > > > weiß jemand, ob es außer dem Mormonen-Film 1742623 noch eine Möglichkeit > gibt, andere Kirchenbücher (evtl. auch Standesamtunterlagen) zu Ronnenberg > anzusehen? Wo und wann wäre das gegebenenfalls möglich? > > > > Herzliche Grüße aus Berlin und allen ein gesundes und erfolgreiches Neues > Jahr > > Hansdieter Behnke > > ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l > -- Fürchte nicht Deine Feinde, sondern fürchte die, denen Du vertraust.
Date: 2008/01/01 10:28:34
From: Hanno V. J. Kolbe <kolbe(a)hicleones.com>
Looking for the location where one of my ancestors was born. The place of birth is listed as:There are elements which do not fit together.
Carlsrad, Herbstadt, Hannover. He was born in 1841. I have a current map of Germany, but could not find this place.
Hallstedt, Harpstedt (?!) , Henstedt, Horstedt (all in Kr. Syke) + Kolnrade (Colnrade, Kollenrade) (also Kr. Syke). Harpstedt and Kolnrade are about 10 miles apart ... and both AGer. Bassum
Happy New Year !! (There are elections in 2008 ? Right ? So it should be a happy year ...)
Date: 2008/01/01 12:32:34
From: WLeue <WLeue(a)aol.com>
Hallo,
suche Informationen zur Familie Rosenbaum aus Hannover.
Daten: Emma Bertha Emilie Kauf, geb. am 11. April 1886 in Hannover,
Tochter der Eheleute
Ofensetzer Johann Konrad Kauf, geb: am 28. November 1859 in
Flawil/Schweiz
Ehefrau Johanna Kauf, geborene Rosenbaum - ohne weitere
Daten -
wohnhaft 1886 , Hannover, Schäferdamm 2 a.
Wer kann Angaben zur Familie "Rosenbaum", wahrscheinlich jüdischem Glaubens,
machen.
Wolfgang Leue
Halser Str. 29
D-94034 Passau
Tel.: +49(0)6251/593134
Mail: wleue(a)aol.com
Date: 2008/01/01 12:41:08
From: Holger Bremer <holgerbremer(a)googlemail.com>
Hallo, ja du kannst die KB im Kirchenbuchamt in Hannover einsehen. Gruß Holger Am 01.01.08 schrieb Peter Meister <meisterphh(a)googlemail.com>: > > Hallo, > üner den Link www.familienkunde-niedersachsen.de findest Du einen Link des > Genealogen Ewig, Familienforscher im Calenberger Land. Dort könntest Du > fündig werden. > > LG > Peter Meister > NS Allen Mitgliedern der Mailing-Liste wünsche ich ein glückliches > erfolgreiches Neues Jahr.. > > Am 31.12.07 schrieb Hansdieter Behnke <hansdieter.behnke(a)t-online.de>: > > > > Hallo, > > > > > > > > weiß jemand, ob es außer dem Mormonen-Film 1742623 noch eine Möglichkeit > > gibt, andere Kirchenbücher (evtl. auch Standesamtunterlagen) zu > Ronnenberg > > anzusehen? Wo und wann wäre das gegebenenfalls möglich? > > > > > > > > Herzliche Grüße aus Berlin und allen ein gesundes und erfolgreiches > Neues > > Jahr > > > > Hansdieter Behnke > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Hannover-L mailing list > > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l > > > > > > -- > Fürchte nicht Deine Feinde, sondern fürchte die, > denen Du vertraust. > ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l >
Date: 2008/01/01 15:54:55
From: Max Burgdorf <pharmaxx(a)charter.net>
I found a Carlsbad on Google in Germany. Max ---- "Hanno V. J. Kolbe" <kolbe(a)hicleones.com> wrote: > Hello Seria > > > > Looking for the location where one of my ancestors was born. The place of > > birth is listed as: > > Carlsrad, Herbstadt, Hannover. He was born in 1841. > > I have a current map of Germany, but could not find this place. > > > There are elements which do not fit together. > > Is this information a transcription or can you read it from the original ? > > There is a 'Herbststadt' in Bavaria. (unlikely, isn't it ?) > > The closest I can come to match the three Names are > > Hallstedt, Harpstedt (?!) , Henstedt, Horstedt (all in Kr. Syke) > + Kolnrade (Colnrade, Kollenrade) (also Kr. Syke). > Harpstedt and Kolnrade are about 10 miles apart ... and both AGer. Bassum > > Does this make sense ? > > Happy New Year !! > (There are elections in 2008 ? Right ? So it should be a happy year ...) > > Hanno V.J.Kolbe > > ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2008/01/01 17:28:40
From: BARKER0106 <BARKER0106(a)aol.com>
Hanno, These were on some old 'cards' that were given to me in OH. I think this is what the family wrote down. The last name is Siemer. Would that make any difference? Thanks. Seria **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
Date: 2008/01/01 18:55:20
From: Albert Emmerich <Emmerich.Albert(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Liste,
inzwischen hat sich eine Spur des Gesuchten ergeben: Er ist in einem Hamburger Adressbuch von 1847 aufgeführt. Die Kopie dieses Eintrags werde ich in Kürze erhalten.
Wer weiß, ob z.B. Anmeldedaten o.ä. für Einwohner von Hamburg vor 1847 zur Verfügung stehen? Daraus würde sich dann vielleicht auch der Geburtsort und/oder die Eltern herausfinden lassen.
Ein gesundes, erfolgreiches Jahr 2008!
Albert (Emmerich)
Cremlingen
Alte Anfrage:
Subject: Carl Rudolph SCHACHT * um 1802
Hallo an alle!
Wegen einer Anfrage Nachfahren in Australien suche ich:
Carl Rudolph Schacht, * um 1802 in ? evtl Hambuch (laut Einbürgerungsdokument)
Ehefrau: Emilie
Kinder: Jean Henri (John Henry) * um 1838
Carl Wilhelm * um 1844 in Elsass-Lothringen ??
ausgewandert nach Australien von Hamburg aus am 30.8.1848 mit dem Schiff "Steinwarder".
Date: 2008/01/01 19:33:20
From: GerdaSingh <gerdasingh(a)alice-dsl.de>
Viele Grüße Gerda (Singh)
Albert (Emmerich) Cremlingen
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Date: 2008/01/01 19:40:14
From: Mona <HeritageHunt(a)Sandyview.info>
Here's a description of the ship, but you may already have found this: http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipb.htm
-- Mona Houser HeritageHunt(a)sandyview.info http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/
Date: 2008/01/01 23:45:04
From: Maureen <mcshelly2(a)msn.com>
Bohemia was part of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. Look for old maps online -- and look in European history books -- for the information that you need. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mona To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: [HN] to Debbie > Thank you for responding to me about my grandfather. I am having > such a hard time finding the town he is from on the immagration papers > it says bohemia austria but my aunt says morvia That's probably Moravia, a region in Europe. Here's a description of the ship, but you may already have found this: http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipb.htm Tell us his name - maybe we can find some other places to search. > can you help me find this town I know he left hte port of Berman in 1902 in the spring and arrived here on the barbarossa in new york in may of 1902 but I can't find him at ellis or anywhere else. I have tried to locate the Barbarossa's passinger list but the ship was taken opver and used during ww ii as a battle ship I haven't been able to find anyone with the records. > > I can track all of my relitives very easy here in the u. s. but once the boat docked here it was as they never existed. what do I do?? > > Thanks for your help > Debbie Ramsey > ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt(a)sandyview.info http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2008/01/02 00:41:44
From: William Taber <willgen(a)mac.com>
Looking for the location where one of my ancestors was born. The place of birth is listed as:
Date: 2008/01/02 13:17:23
From: Manfred <Manfred.Puffahrt(a)t-online.de>
Guten Tag, gab es um 1725 einen Kuhhirten Johann Meyer in Kaltenhof und wenn, hatte er eine Schwester Namens Anna Margaretha geb. um 1700? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Manfred Püffahrt
Date: 2008/01/02 17:20:51
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
Hi,
I banged my lap top trying to pick it up off the floor from the bed. People tell me by the blue words on the screen saying something about f8 key and safe mode, I may have to get it refraged or some such term. I only hope files stay. In mean time I had access to husbands desktop today.
{smile} I also lost the Ostheide book for three four days. I was so happy to see it. I looked for the Schroder name for freds and williams in german of course. None. I found Henrick and Heinrich and a Johann Heinrich Schroeder.
I had seen a tree somewhere with Schroeder from Suttorf.
I know quite a few people in the Dahlenburg and Oldendorf area have come from Suttorf.
I could send you that tree I am interested in that I have mentioned many times. It has many Schroeders. And Meyer from Walmsburg as well as Meyer from Torwe. I am not sure where their Schroder family stemmed from. It is a family heritage of hof
number 30 at oldendorf. Rossburg, Ahrens, Michels, Koopman, Bruns, Harms,Schlicht. And many villages mentioned even from Barskamp.
Schroder such a lot of people with it. Our american settlers sure seemed to propogate and move around, didn't they. I saw a old old movie last night with the guy from Paint your wagon as some kind of cia agent. He was talking of two people having two children and how they propogate into billions of people.
I am from Mn. Never heard of Fountain. New one on me. But then I bet there are thousands of towns I have not heard of.{ I know not to end with preposition, but it is my german heritage that is hard to break. Perhaps a new years resolution is in order.
Anyway, happy new year to everyone.
I will try and email the little tree tomorrow.
jo Meyer
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Date: 2008/01/02 17:20:59
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
Hi,
I banged my lap top trying to pick it up off the floor from the bed. People tell me by the blue words on the screen saying something about f8 key and safe mode, I may have to get it refraged or some such term. I only hope files stay. In mean time I had access to husbands desktop today.
{smile} I also lost the Ostheide book for three four days. I was so happy to see it. I looked for the Schroder name for freds and williams in german of course. None. I found Henrick and Heinrich and a Johann Heinrich Schroeder.
I had seen a tree somewhere with Schroeder from Suttorf.
I know quite a few people in the Dahlenburg and Oldendorf area have come from Suttorf.
I could send you that tree I am interested in that I have mentioned many times. It has many Schroeders. And Meyer from Walmsburg as well as Meyer from Torwe. I am not sure where their Schroder family stemmed from. It is a family heritage of hof
number 30 at oldendorf. Rossburg, Ahrens, Michels, Koopman, Bruns, Harms,Schlicht. And many villages mentioned even from Barskamp.
Schroder such a lot of people with it. Our american settlers sure seemed to propogate and move around, didn't they. I saw a old old movie last night with the guy from Paint your wagon as some kind of cia agent. He was talking of two people having two children and how they propogate into billions of people.
I am from Mn. Never heard of Fountain. New one on me. But then I bet there are thousands of towns I have not heard of.{ I know not to end with preposition, but it is my german heritage that is hard to break. Perhaps a new years resolution is in order.
Anyway, happy new year to everyone.
I will try and email the little tree tomorrow.
jo Meyer
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Date: 2008/01/02 17:37:40
From: Nikolaus Ordemann <i.u.n.ordemann(a)unitybox.de>
Hi Cactus Flower and others, good intentions for 2008 could be: We shall never more use such topics/references in our emails like "Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 48, Eintrag 34".
Best wishes for 2008 Nikolaus (Ordemann)
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Date: 2008/01/02 21:46:08
From: Gerald Bailey <g.bailey3308(a)sbcglobal.net>
Thanks for the info. Fountain is in Fillmore county which is in the SE corner of Minnesota next to the Iowa line. If you take highway 52 South of Rochester for about 30 miles you will find Fountain which is a small town just 9 miles South of Chatfield which is 20 miles South of Rochester. Hope that I now have you lost????? All I know about the Schroeder family is that both Fred and brother Welhelm came from Hannover, Germany. Please send Schroeder family tree if you find it. Thanks. Gerry, I can not read German..
jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I banged my lap top trying to pick it up off the floor from the bed. People tell me by the blue words on the screen saying something about f8 key and safe mode, I may have to get it refraged or some such term. I only hope files stay. In mean time I had access to husbands desktop today.
{smile} I also lost the Ostheide book for three four days. I was so happy to see it. I looked for the Schroder name for freds and williams in german of course. None. I found Henrick and Heinrich and a Johann Heinrich Schroeder.
I had seen a tree somewhere with Schroeder from Suttorf.
I know quite a few people in the Dahlenburg and Oldendorf area have come from Suttorf.
I could send you that tree I am interested in that I have mentioned many times. It has many Schroeders. And Meyer from Walmsburg as well as Meyer from Torwe. I am not sure where their Schroder family stemmed from. It is a family heritage of hof
number 30 at oldendorf. Rossburg, Ahrens, Michels, Koopman, Bruns, Harms,Schlicht. And many villages mentioned even from Barskamp.
Schroder such a lot of people with it. Our american settlers sure seemed to propogate and move around, didn't they. I saw a old old movie last night with the guy from Paint your wagon as some kind of cia agent. He was talking of two people having two children and how they propogate into billions of people.
I am from Mn. Never heard of Fountain. New one on me. But then I bet there are thousands of towns I have not heard of.{ I know not to end with preposition, but it is my german heritage that is hard to break. Perhaps a new years resolution is in order.
Anyway, happy new year to everyone.
I will try and email the little tree tomorrow.
jo Meyer
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Date: 2008/01/03 11:57:13
From: Hansdieter Behnke <hansdieter.behnke(a)t-online.de>
Hallo, vielen Dank für die Informationen über die Möglichkeit zur Einsicht in Kirchenbücher von Ronnenberg im Kirchenbuchamt Hannover. Herzliche Grüße Hansdieter Behnke
Date: 2008/01/03 19:34:46
From: Marina Schlobohm <marinaschlobohm(a)yahoo.de>
Hallo,
ich suche die Familie von Claus Ahrens und Anne Ohlrogge, geb. 31.07.1784 gest. 06.05.1865 in Lamstedt.
Die Kinder sind:
Anna geb. 1805, Anna Margaretha geb. 1806, Betha geb. 1808, Maria geb. 1810, Mettha geb.1812, Gesch Margareth geb. 1814, Johann geb. 1818, alle sind in Seehausen/Grasberg geboren.
Falls mir jemand helfen kann, wäre ich sehr dankbar.
Herzliche Grüße aus Grasberg
Marina (Schlobohm)
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Date: 2008/01/03 19:58:58
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
I understand too about the deleting of the 'hannover list and issue number' and it should be my resolution, I got it! But well. I may try hard but that calls for a small miracle. Same for my spelling and grammer. More hope for the latter. I wish for a better year with less incidents.[ smile] I want to apologize for the repeat of the post. This computer is so slow. I am halfway accross the page with my typing before the words appear on the screen. I didn't think the first letter had gotten through. I know now to wait. I wish to correct the name Rossburg to Rosseborg and Rosseburg mentioned in last letter in another issue. since I know there are others interested. Some of the family are found at Himbergen Uelzen. The Harms and some of the Rosseburg members. While waiting for possible ownership of hof thirty they had their own welfare to tend to and so lived at various places. Those villages of their spouses. etc. Barendorf is mentioned. So any of Hch. Porths books could come into play with more information. In my Ostheide book I am taking into account of the names of village land owners of Bahrendorf.[ hope that is spelled right] I think there are two Barendorf. I saw the name Luman in the book. It surprised me to see it spelt that way in the 'olden days'. Heres to a better new year. [Clink] jo meyer _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec
Date: 2008/01/03 21:38:51
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
Liebe Liste! Aus dem OSB Asel (Ostfriesland): Nr. 653 Janßen, Johan Tiardes, * 15.3.1796, + 22.12.1869 Asel, Kleidermacher, oo Lucie Marie Dorothea SCHWICK, * 1801, aus Landesbergen im Hannoverschen Amte Stolzenau, + 4.11.1828 Asel Ein erfolgreiches Jahr 2008, Grüße aus Schwaben, Andrea (Korbanka) _________________________________________________________________ Importieren Sie ganz einfach Ihre E-Mail Adressen in den Messenger! http://messenger.live.de/community/neuekontakte_adressimport.html
Date: 2008/01/04 04:08:39
From: Fred Buck <fredbuck(a)sprynet.com>
Hallo Marina, Ich fand die folgenden Informationen über die Familie von Claus Ahrens und Anna Ohlrogge aus der Ahrens Stammtafeln aus dem genealogischen Aufzeichnungen des Bördemuseum Lamstedt: Claus Ahrens, Kötner aus Lamstedt, und Anna Ohlrogge, * 1784, + 6.5.1865 Kinder: 1) Maria, * 6.11.1820, Lamstedt 2) Cathrina * 28.11.1823, Lamstedt 3) Friedrich * 22.1.1824, Lamstedt 4) Harm * 29.1.1827, Lamstedt, + 6.4.1849, gefallen in einen Gefecht!, Holstein. Die Stammtafeln gab keine weiteren Informationen über die Familie. Ich kann, um einige zusätzliche Informationen über die Familie aus der Kirchen Lamstedt und Grasberg Kirchenbücher. Ich habe Zugang zu diesen Aufzeichnungen bis 1852. Viele Grüße aus Cincinnati, Ohio, Fred Buck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina Schlobohm" <marinaschlobohm(a)yahoo.de> To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: [HN] Ahrens/Ohlrogge Hallo, ich suche die Familie von Claus Ahrens und Anne Ohlrogge, geb. 31.07.1784 gest. 06.05.1865 in Lamstedt. Die Kinder sind: Anna geb. 1805, Anna Margaretha geb. 1806, Betha geb. 1808, Maria geb. 1810, Mettha geb.1812, Gesch Margareth geb. 1814, Johann geb. 1818, alle sind in Seehausen/Grasberg geboren. Falls mir jemand helfen kann, wäre ich sehr dankbar. Herzliche Grüße aus Grasberg Marina (Schlobohm) --------------------------------- Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2008/01/04 17:57:55
From: Bernd H . Siebert <BerndHSiebert(a)t-online.de>
Gruß Bernd
Von: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be> Datum: 1. Januar 2008 15:19:36 MEZ An: <BerndHSiebert(a)t-online.de> Betreff: De Rooy Antwort an: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be>
Geachte heer,
Ich bin nicht deutssprachich und schreiben auch nicht aber ich verstehe ein bitchen deuts, so entschuldigen mir.
Bitte kunnen sie mir hilfen?
Ich suche information von De Rooy Ludwig Henri Willem ° Geismar oder Gismar 24/12/1921 gestorben 1944. Ludwig oder Louis war in die Kriegsmarine Deutsland. zeine eltern waren De Rooy Ludwig ° 19/03/1890 Berchem Belgie) + 24/07/1971 Eschweiler ( Duitsland) geheiratet 01/05/1910 moglich Gismar met Dorothea Weihe ° 13/09/1899 Gismar oder Geismar + 0/2/10/1967 Eschweiler (D). Dorothea's eltern; Weihe Adolf und Schroder/Schrake ? Dorothea.
Dorothea Weihe is nach Belgien gekommen 06/09/1928 und zuruck nach Deutsland mit der Krieg 2.
Ludwig De Rooy ° Berchem (B) war eine broeder von mein grossmuther De Rooy Philomena eltern von beiden sind De Rooy Louis ° Oorderen (B) und Dierckx Virginia ° Antwerpen (B)
Louis De Rooy und Dorothea Weihe haben 3 kinder,
De Rooy Rudolf Joseph Frans august° Gottingen 29/12/1924 + Eschweiler
De Rooy Leonard Frans Maria ° Mechelen (B) 18/05/1931 x Hannelore Welz )sie sind gestorben Deutsland
De Rooy Louis Henri Willem ° Geismar 24/12/1921.
Die ganze familie ist todt und ich sollte gern information haben, weil ich meine stambaum machen von die famile De Rooy und Dierckx.
Mit vielen grüssen mims
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Date: 2008/01/04 18:10:33
From: genealogie <genealogie(a)klauskunze.com>
Klaus Kunze Lange Str. 28 37170 Uslar Tel.: 05574-944676 Fax: 05571-6327 Email: Genealogie(a)KlausKunze.com http://www.KlausKunze.com
Die folgende mail erhielt ich aus mir nicht bekannten Gründen. Kann jemand aus der Liste dem Herrn Neven helfen?
Gruß Bernd
Von: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be> Datum: 1. Januar 2008 15:19:36 MEZ An: <BerndHSiebert(a)t-online.de> Betreff: De Rooy Antwort an: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be>
Geachte heer,
Ich bin nicht deutssprachich und schreiben auch nicht aber ich verstehe ein bitchen deuts, so entschuldigen mir.
Bitte kunnen sie mir hilfen? Ich suche information von De Rooy Ludwig Henri Willem ° Geismar oder Gismar 24/12/1921 gestorben 1944. Ludwig oder Louis war in die Kriegsmarine Deutsland. zeine eltern waren De Rooy Ludwig ° 19/03/1890 Berchem Belgie) + 24/07/1971 Eschweiler ( Duitsland) geheiratet 01/05/1910 moglich Gismar met Dorothea Weihe ° 13/09/1899 Gismar oder Geismar + 0/2/10/1967 Eschweiler (D). Dorothea's eltern; Weihe Adolf und Schroder/Schrake ? Dorothea. Dorothea Weihe is nach Belgien gekommen 06/09/1928 und zuruck nach Deutsland mit der Krieg 2.
Ludwig De Rooy ° Berchem (B) war eine broeder von mein grossmuther De Rooy Philomena eltern von beiden sind De Rooy Louis ° Oorderen (B) und Dierckx Virginia ° Antwerpen (B)
Louis De Rooy und Dorothea Weihe haben 3 kinder, De Rooy Rudolf Joseph Frans august° Gottingen 29/12/1924 + Eschweiler De Rooy Leonard Frans Maria ° Mechelen (B) 18/05/1931 x Hannelore Welz )sie sind gestorben Deutsland De Rooy Louis Henri Willem ° Geismar 24/12/1921.
Die ganze familie ist todt und ich sollte gern information haben, weil ich meine stambaum machen von die famile De Rooy und Dierckx.
Mit vielen grüssen mims
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Date: 2008/01/04 19:19:59
From: maryjane O'C-L <maryjane_ocl(a)hotmail.com>
If it helps in any way I have de Rooys in Sri Lanka (ex Ceylon) The first person in this family who was Gysbert de Rooy who came from Welle in the province of Lemberg in Holland to India in 1773 on the ship "Landskroon" and then he went on to Jaffna Sri Lanka (Ceylon) where he married an Isabella Meyer. They had 7 children namely, John William b 1783, Lourens 1788, Margarita 1795, Caroline Elisabeth b 1799, Anne Catherine b 1802, Lewis (Louis ?)b 1804 and Johannes b 1807. MaryJane ...........Suffolk UK.> From: BerndHSiebert(a)t-online.de> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:53:19 +0100> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: [HN] De Rooy> > Liebe Liste!> > Die folgende mail erhielt ich aus mir nicht bekannten Gründen. Kann > jemand aus der Liste dem Herrn Neven helfen?> > Gruß> Bernd> > > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:> > > Von: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be>> > Datum: 1. Januar 2008 15:19:36 MEZ> > An: <BerndHSiebert(a)t-online.de>> > Betreff: De Rooy> > Antwort an: "Mims Neven" <mims.neven(a)scarlet.be>> >> >> > Geachte heer,> >> > Ich bin nicht deutssprachich und schreiben auch nicht aber ich > > verstehe ein bitchen deuts, so entschuldigen mir.> >> > Bitte kunnen sie mir hilfen?> > Ich suche information von De Rooy Ludwig Henri Willem ° Geismar > > oder Gismar 24/12/1921 gestorben 1944. Ludwig oder Louis war in die > > Kriegsmarine Deutsland. zeine eltern waren De Rooy Ludwig ° > > 19/03/1890 Berchem Belgie) + 24/07/1971 Eschweiler ( Duitsland) > > geheiratet 01/05/1910 moglich Gismar met Dorothea Weihe ° > > 13/09/1899 Gismar oder Geismar + 0/2/10/1967 Eschweiler (D). > > Dorothea's eltern; Weihe Adolf und Schroder/Schrake ? Dorothea.> > Dorothea Weihe is nach Belgien gekommen 06/09/1928 und zuruck nach > > Deutsland mit der Krieg 2.> >> >> > Ludwig De Rooy ° Berchem (B) war eine broeder von mein grossmuther > > De Rooy Philomena eltern von beiden sind De Rooy Louis ° Oorderen > > (B) und Dierckx Virginia ° Antwerpen (B)> >> > Louis De Rooy und Dorothea Weihe haben 3 kinder,> > De Rooy Rudolf Joseph Frans august° Gottingen 29/12/1924 + Eschweiler> > De Rooy Leonard Frans Maria ° Mechelen (B) 18/05/1931 x Hannelore > > Welz )sie sind gestorben Deutsland> > De Rooy Louis Henri Willem ° Geismar 24/12/1921.> >> > Die ganze familie ist todt und ich sollte gern information haben, > > weil ich meine stambaum machen von die famile De Rooy und Dierckx.> >> > Mit vielen grüssen> > mims> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: > > 31/12/2007 15:32> >> > ______________________________________________> > Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx
Date: 2008/01/04 20:13:52
From: D Ramsey <ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com>
If you could help I am looking for family on hannover by the name of Greiwe.
Please let me know if you have crossed paths with anyone with this name
Thank you
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Date: 2008/01/04 20:23:54
From: D Ramsey <ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com>
Dear Mona,
You are a true angle in the dark. My great grand fathers name was Frank Brunner he was born September 5, 1871 on the papers from the state of Ohio Untied states Department of labor naturalization services he say's he was born in Bohemia Austria.He arrived in new york new york May 22, 1902 and sailed on the ship Barbarossa he left Berman Germeny I know from our cencus that he was here in Cincinnati and married with childern in 1908 I know he married my Great Grandmother Anna It is either karsel or korsel from litchnia czechoslovakia. I still hve one living Aunt who can rember some. She said That Frank left to avoid the draft and cam to the U.S. She said anna left ended up in Boston workking for a rich irishman then came to Cincinnati, Ohio got married and started a family by the cencus of 1910 here.
Any help you can give me is wonderful I am currantly taking German classes so I can read most of the messages sent. Thank you again
Deborah Ramsey
Mona <HeritageHunt(a)Sandyview.info> wrote:
> Thank you for responding to me about my grandfather. I am having
> such a hard time finding the town he is from on the immagration
papers > it says bohemia austria but my aunt says morvia
That's probably Moravia, a region in Europe.
Here's a description of the ship, but you may already have found this:
http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/shipb.htm
Tell us his name - maybe we can find some other places to search.
> can you help me find this town I know he left hte port of Berman in
1902 in the spring and arrived here on the barbarossa in new york in may
of 1902 but I can't find him at ellis or anywhere else. I have tried to
locate the Barbarossa's passinger list but the ship was taken opver and
used during ww ii as a battle ship I haven't been able to find anyone
with the records.
>
> I can track all of my relitives very easy here in the u. s. but
once the boat docked here it was as they never existed. what do I do??
>
> Thanks for your help
> Debbie Ramsey
> ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com
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Date: 2008/01/04 20:28:29
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>
Hi Deborah! Try http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ Type Greiwe into the search field and click "Suchen". Good luck, Andrea (Korbanka)> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:11:37 -0800> From: ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: [HN] looking for Greiwes in hannover> > If you could help I am looking for family on hannover by the name of Greiwe.> Please let me know if you have crossed paths with anyone with this name > > Thank you > Deborah Ramsey> > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> ______________________________________________> > Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l _________________________________________________________________ Importieren Sie ganz einfach Ihre E-Mail Adressen in den Messenger! http://messenger.live.de/community/neuekontakte_adressimport.html
Date: 2008/01/05 01:54:43
From: WBL435 <WBL435(a)aol.com>
I just located my Great Grandmother, Katrina Wendt. The information said she was born in 1804 in Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. Would the Hannover be the same as the Kingdom of Hannover? Also is Niedersachsen the name of a town? If so where is it located in Germany? Her husband was Heinrich Sigusmond Wendt. He never came to America. Any help would be highly appreciated. Bill Leichter **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Date: 2008/01/05 10:13:22
From: Manfred <Manfred.Puffahrt(a)t-online.de>
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, um 1700 tauchen in Kaarßen zwei Pentz auf wo die Herkunft unbekannt ist. Dorothea Elisabeth Pentz geb. ~ 1687 und Andreas Ludwig Pentz heiratet nach 1717 eine Magd. Ursel Hellwig aus Kaarßen Wer kann weiterhelfen? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Manfred Puffahrt Stapel
Date: 2008/01/05 11:05:07
From: Peter Meister <meisterphh(a)googlemail.com>
Here commming the people with name Greiwe Greiwe, Stephan - Stolzestr. 40, Hannover Telefon 49 511 2831400 Greetings Peter 2008/1/4, D Ramsey <ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com>: > > If you could help I am looking for family on hannover by the name of > Greiwe. > Please let me know if you have crossed paths with anyone with this name > > Thank you > Deborah Ramsey > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l > -- Fürchte nicht Deine Feinde, sondern fürchte die, denen Du vertraust.
Date: 2008/01/05 11:48:55
From: Küster Ulrich <Ulrich.Kuester(a)t-online.de>
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Date: 2008/01/05 12:20:24
From: Erika Giftge <giftge(a)t-online.de>
I also have a Katarina Wendt in my files, she is the daughter of Gebkke Langen and Heinrich Wendt and was born 1799; if by any chance she had a brother Heinrich Sigismund, I do not know. Her family was from Sudweyhe near Bremen. In case you get more details and see a possible connection, let me know. Hannover could either be the city of Hannover or the area of the former kingdom of Hannover, which in many parts is identical with what today is called Niedersachsen. All the locations you mentioned are not very precise, so finding the exact place will be e challenge.
I just located my Great Grandmother, Katrina Wendt. The information said she was born in 1804 in Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. Would the Hannover be the same as the Kingdom of Hannover? Also is Niedersachsen the name of a town? If so where is it located in Germany? Her husband was Heinrich Sigusmond Wendt. He never came to America. Any help would be highly appreciated. Bill Leichter
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Date: 2008/01/05 12:25:08
From: Anke E. Waldmann <anke(a)die-waldmanns.de>
Hi Deborah, Greiwe is not really a rare name in the area of Osnabrück and Westfalia - especially if you look for different spellings like Greive, Grewe and Greve, too and if your ment the Kingdom of Hannover and not only the city. It would be helpful if you could specify what your're looking for. I have dates about a Greiwe family of Grambergen, parish of Schledehausen, county of Osnabrück. Anke Waldmann www.die-waldmanns.de www.grambergen.de ______ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:11:37 -0800 (PST) From: D Ramsey <ramseys_little_monster(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [HN] looking for Greiwes in hannover To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Message-ID: <469565.88438.qm(a)web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If you could help I am looking for family on hannover by the name of Greiwe. Please let me know if you have crossed paths with anyone with this name Thank you Deborah Ramsey
Date: 2008/01/05 12:35:02
From: Wolfgang Buchhorn <wolfgang.buchhorn(a)arcor.de>
Hi Bill It's not so easy to give a helpful answer. Hannover could be the city of Hannover but also the Kingdom of Hannover. I have the same problem with an emigrant to England. The census tells his place of birth is Hannover but nobody in Hannover City (Archives) have information about him and so I think he came from the Kingdom of Hannover. But which place? Most emigrants from the Kingdom of Hannover told they would come from Hannover. Nobody knows today from which Hannover. Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony) is a state (province) of Germany. It's located in the north of Germany. The capital is Hannover. It was founded after WW2. Unfortunately does I know nothing about your Wendt family. I hope the other explanation was a small help. Have a nice weekend. Wolfgang Buchhorn Braunschweig (Brunswick) Haben Sie schon meine Internet-Seite besucht? Have you already visited my web page?  www.wbuchhorn.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von WBL435(a)aol.com Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Januar 2008 01:43 An: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Betreff: [HN] Information request I just located my Great Grandmother, Katrina Wendt. The information said she was born in 1804 in Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. Would the Hannover be the same as the Kingdom of Hannover? Also is Niedersachsen the name of a town? If so where is it located in Germany? Her husband was Heinrich Sigusmond Wendt. He never came to America. Any help would be highly appreciated. Bill Leichter
Date: 2008/01/05 20:38:12
From: Ralf G. Jordan <ahnen(a)rgjordan.de>
Hallo, Ich habe im Laufe der Zeit verschiedene alte Lexika online gefunden. Da wir alle immer mal wieder entsprechende Quellen benötigen hier mal einige Links (Aufgrund der Ordnung nach Lexika kann es zu Mehrfachnennungen kommen): - Meyers Konversationslexikon 1882-1892 4. Auflage http://www.retrobibliothek.de/retrobib/stoebern.html http://peter-hug.ch/lexikon - Biografisches Künstlerlexikon http://peter-hug.ch/lexikon - Merck's Warenlexikon, 1884, 3. Auflage [Beschreibung der im Handel vorkommenden Natur- und Kunsterzeugnisse unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der chemisch-technischen und anderer Fabrikate, der Droguen- und Farbewaren, der Kolonialwaren, der Landesprodukte, der Material- und Mineralwaren.] http://www.retrobibliothek.de/retrobib/stoebern.html http://peter-hug.ch/lexikon - Handbuch der Drogistenpraxis 1893 http://peter-hug.ch/lexikon - Brockhaus Konversationslexikon, (16 Bd. + 1 Supplement) 1884-1896 14. Auflage http://www.retrobibliothek.de/retrobib/stoebern.html http://peter-hug.ch/lexikon - Deutsches Rechtswörterbuch http://drw-www.adw.uni-heidelberg.de/drw/ oder http://129.206.119.53/~cd2/drw/ - Deutsches Wörterbuch von Jacob Grimm und Wilhelm Grimm. 16 Bde. [in 32 Teilbänden]. Leipzig: S. Hirzel 1854-1960 http://germazope.uni-trier.de/Projects/DWB - Übersichtsseite zu -- Deutsches WB (Grimm; siehe auch oben) -- Mittelhochdeutsches WB (Nachlass Benecke) -- Mittelhochdeutsches HandWB von Lexer -- Mittelhochdeutscher Wortschatz -- Pfälzisches WB (Wörterbuch) -- Rheinisches WB -- WB Elsässische Mundarten -- WB Deutsch-Lothringische Mundarten -- Goethe WB http://www.woerterbuchnetz.de/ - Biographisch-bibliographisches Kirchenlexikon http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/ Daneben gibt es noch moderne Ansätze (zwar etwas ausserhalb der Listengebiete...) - Sächsische Biografie http://isgv.serveftp.org/saebi/projekt.php Kein Anspruch auf Vollständigkeit Viel Spass beim Stöbern, Finden, Schmunzeln... Ralf (Jordan) ahnen(a)rgjordan.de
Date: 2008/01/05 21:37:13
From: Herbert.Kunkel <Herbert(a)theKunkels.com>
Heinrich Ernst BUSCHE wurde noch 1872 als Eleve in Levesen, KS Seggebruch. Schaumburg. Hannover genannt.
Wer forscht in Schaumburg, Schaumburg-Lippe, hat BUSCHE oder SCHAEKEL in seinen Namenslisten und ist zum Austausch entsprechender bereit?
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Date: 2008/01/05 22:18:28
From: Björn Sassenberg <post(a)bjoern-sassenberg.de>
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Heinrich Ernst BUSCHE wurde noch 1872 als Eleve in Levesen, KS Seggebruch. Schaumburg. Hannover genannt.
Wo er aber geboren wurde und wann, wo und wann er starb ist nicht ersichtlich. Es geht aus den mir vorliegenden Unterlagen des Staatsarchivs Bueckeburg nicht hervor. Genausowenig wie das Datum seiner Ehe mit Anna Engel Marie Eleonore SCHAEKEL, geb. in Hespe.
Wer forscht in Schaumburg, Schaumburg-Lippe, hat BUSCHE oder SCHAEKEL in seinen Namenslisten und ist zum Austausch entsprechender bereit?
Interessiert an KUNKEL, BUSCHE, FISCHER, KUHSE, ZEITZ, HAKER, EVERT, WOLF. ELZENER
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Date: 2008/01/06 02:57:16
From: Dawn Ullmann <dullmannfamily(a)yahoo.com>
I am searching for any info for my g-g-grandfather Anton Garbe. His tombstone in US states he was from Salzemmendorf in Hanover and was born in 1829. I believe he also had a brother, Conrad. They came to the US around 1850. Where is Salzemmendorf in Hanover? Also, if anyone else is searching or has info, I would love to exchange info.
Thanks-
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Date: 2008/01/06 04:58:59
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Date: 2008/01/06 07:43:00
From: Bernd Salewski <salewski.hambergen(a)ewetel.net>
Hanover at 1804 will be the kingdom of Hannover. Niedersachsen is not a town, it´´s a state like your Iowa, Ohio etc. Wendt is a very common name in Germany. Do you know from waht port she started to the US?
I just located my Great Grandmother, Katrina Wendt. The information said
she was born in 1804 in Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. Would the Hannover
be the same as the Kingdom of Hannover? Also is Niedersachsen the name of a
town? If so where is it located in Germany? Her husband was Heinrich
Sigusmond Wendt. He never came to America. Any help would be highly appreciated.
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Date: 2008/01/06 08:28:39
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Date: 2008/01/06 09:21:14
From: Björn Sassenberg <post(a)bjoern-sassenberg.de>
Meine Daten: www.bjoern-sassenberg.de/page7.html
Heinrich Ernst BUSCHE wurde noch 1872 als Eleve in Levesen, KS Seggebruch. Schaumburg. Hannover genannt.
Wo er aber geboren wurde und wann, wo und wann er starb ist nicht ersichtlich. Es geht aus den mir vorliegenden Unterlagen des Staatsarchivs Bueckeburg nicht hervor. Genausowenig wie das Datum seiner Ehe mit Anna Engel Marie Eleonore SCHAEKEL, geb. in Hespe.
Wer forscht in Schaumburg, Schaumburg-Lippe, hat BUSCHE oder SCHAEKEL in seinen Namenslisten und ist zum Austausch entsprechender bereit?
Interessiert an KUNKEL, BUSCHE, FISCHER, KUHSE, ZEITZ, HAKER, EVERT, WOLF. ELZENER
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Date: 2008/01/06 09:58:55
From: Herbert.Kunkel <Herbert(a)theKunkels.com>
Interessiert an KUNKEL, BUSCHE, FISCHER, KUHSE, ZEITZ, HAKER, EVERT, WOLF. ELZENER
Interessiert an KUNKEL, BUSCHE, FISCHER, KUHSE, ZEITZ, HAKER, EVERT, WOLF. ELZENER
ich bin's noch mal. Ich vergaß, ganz zu erwähnen, dass auch ich SCHÄKEL bzw. SCHEKEL in meiner Ahneliste habe. Diese kamen aus Volksdorf, allerdings vor 1660. Vielleicht treffen sich unsere Familien ja irgendwann.
Meine Daten: www.bjoern-sassenberg.de/page7.html
Heinrich Ernst BUSCHE wurde noch 1872 als Eleve in Levesen, KS Seggebruch. Schaumburg. Hannover genannt.
Wo er aber geboren wurde und wann, wo und wann er starb ist nicht ersichtlich. Es geht aus den mir vorliegenden Unterlagen des Staatsarchivs Bueckeburg nicht hervor. Genausowenig wie das Datum seiner Ehe mit Anna Engel Marie Eleonore SCHAEKEL, geb. in Hespe.
Wer forscht in Schaumburg, Schaumburg-Lippe, hat BUSCHE oder SCHAEKEL in seinen Namenslisten und ist zum Austausch entsprechender bereit?
Interessiert an KUNKEL, BUSCHE, FISCHER, KUHSE, ZEITZ, HAKER, EVERT, WOLF. ELZENER
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Date: 2008/01/06 11:44:37
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Date: 2008/01/06 13:14:20
From: Genealogie Fritsche <genealogie(a)ib-fritsche.de>
Hallo Stefan, << Ich fand den Beitrag recht interessant >> klar, das ist wie immer Geschmacks- und Ansichtssache, worüber sich natürlich nicht streiten läßt ... Ich hatte den Film von Bernhard Sallmann (er heißt "Deutsche Diernststelle") bereits vor Jahren mal gesehen, er stammt ja bereits aus 1999. Es ist kein eigentlicher Dokumentarfilm über die Arbeit der WASt, eher einer, der das Seelenleben einzelner Mitarbeiter der WASt dokumentiert. Sie schildern an wenigen Fällen, was sie bei ihrer Arbeit fanden und was sie dabei empfinden. Der Film ist durchweg mit recht langatmigen Szenen, ohne jeglichen Dialog, angelegt, ist sicher eher künstlerisch als sachlich-informativ anspruchsvoll. Gut möglich, daß man aus einer solchen Behörde auch nicht anders berichten kann ... Viele Grüße, Jürgen ******************************************************************* Jürgen Fritsche Taunusring 56, 63150 Heusenstamm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ mailto:genealogie(a)ib-fritsche.de http://www.genealogie-fritsche.de ******************************************************************* Forum "Ahnensuche Mitteldeutschland" http://www.ahnensuche-mitteldeutschland.de ******************************************************************* Forschungsprojekt "FRIT(Z)SCH(E)-Datenbank": http://www.genealogie-fritsche.de/fritsche-db.htm Forschungprojekt "Sanitäts-Einheiten im 2. WK" http://www.genealogie-fritsche.de/sanitaetseinheiten.htm ******************************************************************* -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ahnenforschungsgruppe(a)yahoogroups.de [mailto:Ahnenforschungsgruppe(a)yahoogroups.de] Im Auftrag von Stefan Kramer Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Januar 2008 08:28 An: Liste Yahoo Ahnenforschungsgruppe; Liste Hannover-Land; Liste FamNord Betreff: [Ahnenforschungsgruppe] Beitrag auf Phoenix über die WASt Hallo, am 03.01.08 23:00 lief auf Phoenix eine Doku über die WASt, ihre Mitarbeiter und deren Arbeit. Ich fand den Beitrag recht interessant. Leider konnte ich nichts über eine Wiederholung finden. Den Beitrag kann man sich über das Bittorrent-Netzwerk herunter laden: http://www.torrent.to/torrent/upload/doku/358/222358/2277-www.torrent.to...DeutscheDienststelle.avi.torrent Gruß, Stefan
Date: 2008/01/06 14:05:39
From: Hanno V. J. Kolbe <kolbe(a)hicleones.com>
My gg grandfather was Heinrich Gottlieb Sievers was born October 1832 in Germany. His ship log said he was from Hannover,Germany. But on his death certificate his son was the information giver, and the son said his father was from Hamburg??
Hamburg/Hannover ? No. You have the original of the death certificate ? Maybe Harburg/Hannover ??? Hamburg could be a spelling error. What was H.G.Sievers job ? Harburg was a busy town ...
Greetings Hanno (V.J.Kolbe)
Date: 2008/01/07 00:01:02
From: Sandy Cooper <sandy4lsu(a)att.net>
Sandy Cooper wrote:My gg grandfather was Heinrich Gottlieb
Sievers was born October
1832 in Germany. His ship
log said he was from Hannover,Germany. But on his death certificate his son was
the information giver, and the son said his father was from Hamburg??
Hamburg/Hannover ? No. You have the original of the death certificate ? Maybe Harburg/Hannover ??? Hamburg could be a spelling error. What was H.G.Sievers job ? Harburg was a busy town ...
Greetings Hanno (V.J.Kolbe)
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Date: 2008/01/07 03:06:32
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>
HI Sandy:
Â
Did you check the whole manifest for the ship Stella?
Â
Here is what I find. It includes aparently a whole family of
Seivers.
Â
[1]First name [2]Last name [3]Occupation [4]Age [5]Sex [6]Arrived
[7]Origin [8]Ship
CATHARINA [9]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 17 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
HEINRICH [10]SIEVERS PEASANT 21 M 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
TEKLA [11]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 24 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
GEFINA [12]SIEVERS WIFE 49 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY
Â
GEFINA [13]SIEVERS CHILD, YOUNGSTER 7 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
MARGARETHA [14]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 10 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
Â
Â
Â
GOTTL. [15]SIEVERS BUTCHER 15 M 22 May 1863 GERMANY BORUSSIA
Â
This all comes from Castle Garden, the forerunner of Ellis Island.
Â
[16]WWW.CastleGarden.org
Â
You can get a complete list of the manifist for the dates of interest
by intering the Sievers name and the years 1856 for one and 1856 for
the other. Then select the ships Stella for one and Borussia for the
other. Delete the Sievers name and use the wild card * Â
Â
Gale
Â
Â
Gale
On Jan 5, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
Good Evening to All,
I have been trying to put together my family history. I am finding
out Â
it is very hard from the US. Â My gg grandfather was Heinrich
Gottlieb Â
Sievers. From what I have been able to find out he was born October
Â
1832 in Germany. On October 28, 1856 he landed in New Â
Orleans,Louisiana, USA. He left out of the port of Bremen on the
ship Â
named the Stella. I was told Bremen's records were destroyed during
Â
the war??? He died in Red Bud,Illinois,USA on March 4, 1908. His
ship Â
log said he was from Hannover,Germany. A couple census reports in
Â
Illinois just said Germany. But on his death certificate his son
was Â
the information giver, and the son said his father was from
Hamburg?? Â
I do know  Heinrich Gottlieb had a younger brother named
Gottlieb. Â
Gottlieb was born July 18, 1848 in Germany. He came to America May
22, Â
1863 and landed in New York,NY. Any.....help would be a blessing at
Â
this point. Thanks for yall's time in reading this.
sandy sievers
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References
1. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=first&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
2. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=last&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
3. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=occupation&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
4. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=age&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
5. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=sex&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
6. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=arrived&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
7. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=origin&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
8. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=ship&p_first_name=&p_last_name=%&co_code=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
9. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154222
10. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154221
11. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154220
12. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154219
13. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154224
14. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154223
15. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=3492460
16. http://www.CastleGarden.org/
Date: 2008/01/07 03:17:19
From: W. Fred Rump <fredrump(a)gmail.com>
Hat jemand schon mal dieses Buch gesehen oder weiß wo es einzusehen ist? Fred -- Fred Rump, 730 5th St. NW Naples, FL 34120 fredrump(a)gmail.com http://fredrump.phanfare.com We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it. Jefferson (1820)
Date: 2008/01/07 03:54:00
From: Sandy Cooper <sandy4lsu(a)att.net>
sandy sievers cooper On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:06 PM, <gale(a)bosche.info> wrote:
HI Sandy:
Â
Did you check the whole manifest for the ship Stella?
Â
Here is what I find. It includes aparently a whole family of Seivers.
Â
[1]First name [2]Last name [3]Occupation [4]Age [5]Sex [6]Arrived [7]Origin [8]Ship CATHARINA [9]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 17 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA HEINRICH [10]SIEVERS PEASANT 21 M 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA TEKLA [11]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 24 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA GEFINA [12]SIEVERS WIFE 49 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY
Â
GEFINA [13]SIEVERS CHILD, YOUNGSTER 7 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
MARGARETHA [14]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 10 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
Â
Â
Â
GOTTL. [15]SIEVERS BUTCHER 15 M 22 May 1863 GERMANY BORUSSIA
Â
This all comes from Castle Garden, the forerunner of Ellis Island.
Â
[16]WWW.CastleGarden.org
Â
You can get a complete list of the manifist for the dates of interest
by intering the Sievers name and the years 1856 for one and 1856 for
the other. Then select the ships Stella for one and Borussia for the
other. Delete the Sievers name and use the wild card * Â
Â
Gale
Â
Â
Gale
On Jan 5, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
Good Evening to All,
I have been trying to put together my family history. I am finding
out Â
it is very hard from the US. Â My gg grandfather was Heinrich
Gottlieb Â
Sievers. From what I have been able to find out he was born October
Â
1832 in Germany. On October 28, 1856 he landed in New Â
Orleans,Louisiana, USA. He left out of the port of Bremen on the
ship Â
named the Stella. I was told Bremen's records were destroyed during
Â
the war??? He died in Red Bud,Illinois,USA on March 4, 1908. His
ship Â
log said he was from Hannover,Germany. A couple census reports in
Â
Illinois just said Germany. But on his death certificate his son
was Â
the information giver, and the son said his father was from
Hamburg?? Â
I do know  Heinrich Gottlieb had a younger brother named
Gottlieb. Â
Gottlieb was born July 18, 1848 in Germany. He came to America May
22, Â
1863 and landed in New York,NY. Any.....help would be a blessing at
Â
this point. Thanks for yall's time in reading this.
sandy sievers
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References
1. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=first&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
2. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=last&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
3. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=occupation&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
4. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=age&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
5. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=sex&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
6. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=arrived&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
7. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=origin&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
8. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=ship&p_first_name=&p_last_name= %&co_code =-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
9. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154222
10. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154221
11. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154220
12. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154219
13. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154224
14. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154223
15. file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=3492460
16. http://www.CastleGarden.org/
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Date: 2008/01/07 04:17:47
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>
Hi Sandy:
Â
The titles wife, daughter, etc does not necessarily mean that the
listed relationship is to your relative. The wife could be his aunt
the daughters could be the aunt's daughters or maybe his sisters.
Â
However, I am betting that the "wife"Â was the mother of all the
others and Heinrich was her oldest son and Tekla was her oldest
daughter. As the oldest adult son, Heinrich was responsible for all
of them.
Â
If you go to Germany, where would you go? You don't know where they
came from.
Â
However, with six people, there just has to be a paper trail
somewhere.
Â
Gale
On Jan 6, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
Hi Gale,
Thanks for your help. Yes, I did look at the whole manifest, but it
is Â
the weirdest thing. If you look at the others with my gg
grandfather Â
they NEVER show up again.....anywhere. I know he landed in 1856 in
New Â
Orleans, La. I also know he spent his life in Ruma, Randolph
County, Â
Il. I have a census for 1870,1880, and 1900. Never have i found
info Â
on the others that show on the manifest. It's like they
disappeared?? Â
Plus, look at the ages, he was 21yrs. but it says there was a
daughter Â
Catherina 17yrs and Tekla 24 yrs. Then, a wife that was 49yrs.?? Â
Someone once told me that maybe he was "just bringing them over".
Â
because they were all women and usually  women would not travel by
Â
themselves. What do you think? I have tried to search for each of
them Â
on Ancestry and have had no luck. But I did find my gg grandfather.
Â
Any suggestions??
I also found my gg Uncle Gottlieb Sievers.....but once again I
still Â
can not find where they come from in Germany. My husband says I am
Â
"true German" because I have been at this on my own for almost 10
Â
years......and wont quit. I want to visit Germany one day soon, to
see Â
where my famiy came from.
Blessings & Joy,
sandy sievers cooper
On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:06 PM, <gale(a)bosche.info> wrote:
>
> Â HI Sandy:
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Did you check the whole manifest for the ship Stella?
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Here is what I find.Ã Â It includes aparently a whole family
of
> Â Seivers.
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â [1]First name [2]Last name [3]Occupation [4]Age [5]Sex
[6]Arrived
> Â [7]Origin [8]Ship
> Â CATHARINA [9]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 17 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
> Â HEINRICH [10]SIEVERS PEASANT 21 M 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
> Â TEKLA [11]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 24 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA
> Â GEFINA [12]SIEVERS WIFE 49 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â GEFINA Â Â [13]SIEVERS CHILD, YOUNGSTER 7 Â F 28 Oct 1856
GERMANY Â
> STELLA
> Â MARGARETHA [14]SIEVERS DAUGHTER Â Â Â Â 10 F 28 Oct 1856
GERMANY Â
> STELLA
>
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â GOTTL. [15]SIEVERS BUTCHER 15 M 22 May 1863 GERMANY BORUSSIA
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â This all comes from Castle Garden, the forerunner of Ellis
Island.
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â [16]WWW.CastleGarden.org
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â You can get a complete list of the manifist for the dates of
Â
> interest
> Â by intering the Sievers name and the years 1856 for one and
1856 for
> Â the other.Ã Â Then select the ships Stella for one and
Borussia for Â
> the
> Â other.Ã Â Delete the Sievers name and use the wild card *Ã Ã
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Gale
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Ã
>
> Â Gale
>
>
> Â On Jan 5, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
>
> Â Â Good Evening to All,
> Â Â I have been trying to put together my family history. I am
finding
> Â Â out Ã
> Â Â it is very hard from the US. Ã My gg grandfather was
Heinrich
> Â Â Gottlieb Ã
> Â Â Sievers. From what I have been able to find out he was born
Â
> October
> Â Â Ã
> Â Â 1832 in Germany. On October 28, 1856 he landed in New Ã
> Â Â Orleans,Louisiana, USA. He left out of the port of Bremen
on the
> Â Â ship Ã
> Â Â named the Stella. I was told Bremen's records were
destroyed Â
> during
> Â Â Ã
> Â Â the war??? He died in Red Bud,Illinois,USA on March 4,
1908. His
> Â Â ship Ã
> Â Â log said he was from Hannover,Germany. A couple census
reports in
> Â Â Ã
> Â Â Illinois just said Germany. But on his death certificate
his son
> Â Â was Ã
> Â Â the information giver, and the son said his father was from
> Â Â Hamburg?? Ã
>   I do know à  Heinrich Gottlieb had a younger brother named
> Â Â Gottlieb. Ã
> Â Â Gottlieb was born July 18, 1848 in Germany. He came to
America May
> Â Â 22, Ã
> Â Â 1863 and landed in New York,NY. Any.....help would be a
blessing Â
> at
> Â Â Ã
> Â Â this point. Thanks for yall's time in reading this.
> Â Â sandy sievers
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file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=fir
st&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 2.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=las
t&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 3.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=occ
upation&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 4.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=age
&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 5.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=sex
&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 6.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=arr
ived&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 7.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=ori
gin&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 8.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php?sort=desc&type=shi
p&p_first_name=&p_last_name=
> %&co_code
>
=-1&o_code=-1&m_mid=18368&m_arr_date_end=1856&m_arr_date_start=1856
> Â 9.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154222
> Â 10.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154221
> Â 11.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154220
> Â 12.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154219
> Â 13.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154224
> Â 14.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=4154223
> Â 15.
file://localhost/webmail/quick_search_detail.php?p_id=3492460
> Â 16. http://www.CastleGarden.org/
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Date: 2008/01/07 04:34:44
From: gale <gale(a)bosche.info>
HI Sandy:  I just noticed that the 1856 landing of Stella was in New York. You have New Orleans. Something is wrong here! They didn't have teleportation in those days and Scotty wasn't around.  Also look for names on the manifest that are similiar to those where your ancestors settled. You may be able to trace them back.  Five different families from my GF's home town in Germany wound up in the same county in Iowa.  Gale  For brevity the thread was deleated her, look at my pryor posting this date. ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2008/01/07 04:54:55
From: Sandy Cooper <sandy4lsu(a)att.net>
Hi Sandy:
Â
The titles wife, daughter, etc does not necessarily mean that the
listed relationship is to your relative. The wife could be his aunt
the daughters could be the aunt's daughters or maybe his sisters.
Â
However, I am betting that the "wife"Â was the mother of all the
others and Heinrich was her oldest son and Tekla was her oldest
daughter. As the oldest adult son, Heinrich was responsible for all
of them.
Â
If you go to Germany, where would you go? You don't know where they
came from.
Â
However, with six people, there just has to be a paper trail somewhere.
Â
Gale
On Jan 6, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
Hi Gale,
Thanks for your help. Yes, I did look at the whole manifest, but it
is Â
the weirdest thing. If you look at the others with my gg
grandfather Â
they NEVER show up again.....anywhere. I know he landed in 1856 in
New Â
Orleans, La. I also know he spent his life in Ruma, Randolph
County, Â
Il. I have a census for 1870,1880, and 1900. Never have i found
info Â
on the others that show on the manifest. It's like they
disappeared?? Â
Plus, look at the ages, he was 21yrs. but it says there was a
daughter Â
Catherina 17yrs and Tekla 24 yrs. Then, a wife that was 49yrs.?? Â
Someone once told me that maybe he was "just bringing them over".
Â
because they were all women and usually  women would not travel by
Â
themselves. What do you think? I have tried to search for each of
them Â
on Ancestry and have had no luck. But I did find my gg grandfather.
Â
Any suggestions??
I also found my gg Uncle Gottlieb Sievers.....but once again I
still Â
can not find where they come from in Germany. My husband says I am
Â
"true German" because I have been at this on my own for almost 10
Â
years......and wont quit. I want to visit Germany one day soon, to
see Â
where my famiy came from.
Blessings & Joy,
sandy sievers cooper
On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:06 PM, <gale(a)bosche.info> wrote:of
 HI Sandy:
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 Did you check the whole manifest for the ship Stella?
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 Here is what I find.à  It includes aparently a whole family Seivers.[6]Arrived
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 [1]First name [2]Last name [3]Occupation [4]Age [5]SexGERMANY  [7]Origin [8]Ship  CATHARINA [9]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 17 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA  HEINRICH [10]SIEVERS PEASANT 21 M 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA  TEKLA [11]SIEVERS DAUGHTER 24 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY STELLA  GEFINA [12]SIEVERS WIFE 49 F 28 Oct 1856 GERMANY
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 GEFINA   [13]SIEVERS CHILD, YOUNGSTER 7  F 28 Oct 1856GERMANY ÂSTELLA  MARGARETHA [14]SIEVERS DAUGHTER     10 F 28 Oct 1856STELLAIsland.
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 GOTTL. [15]SIEVERS BUTCHER 15 M 22 May 1863 GERMANY BORUSSIA
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 You can get a complete list of the manifist for the dates of1856 forinterest  by intering the Sievers name and the years 1856 for one and the other.à  Then select the ships Stella for one andBorussia for Âfindingthe  other.à  Delete the Sievers name and use the wild card *à Ã
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 On Jan 5, 2008, sandy4lsu(a)att.net wrote:
  Good Evening to All,   I have been trying to put together my family history. I amHeinrich  out à   it is very hard from the US. à My gg grandfather was  Gottlieb à   Sievers. From what I have been able to find out he was bornon theOctober   à   1832 in Germany. On October 28, 1856 he landed in New à   Orleans,Louisiana, USA. He left out of the port of Bremendestroyed   ship à   named the Stella. I was told Bremen's records were1908. Hisduring   à   the war??? He died in Red Bud,Illinois,USA on March 4,reports in  ship à   log said he was from Hannover,Germany. A couple censushis son  à   Illinois just said Germany. But on his death certificateAmerica May  was à   the information giver, and the son said his father was from   Hamburg?? à   I do know à  Heinrich Gottlieb had a younger brother named   Gottlieb. à   Gottlieb was born July 18, 1848 in Germany. He came toblessing   22, à   1863 and landed in New York,NY. Any.....help would be afile://localhost/webmail/quick_search_result.php? sort=desc&type=firat   à   this point. Thanks for yall's time in reading this.   sandy sievers   ______________________________________________   Hannover-L mailing list   Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net   http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
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Date: 2008/01/07 05:30:26
From: Sandy Cooper <sandy4lsu(a)att.net>
HI Sandy:
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I just noticed that the 1856 landing of Stella was in New York. You
have New Orleans. Something is wrong here! They didn't have
teleportation in those days and Scotty wasn't around.
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Also look for names on the manifest that are similiar to those where
your ancestors settled. You may be able to trace them back.  Five
different families from my GF's home town in Germany wound up in the
same county in Iowa.
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Gale
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For brevity the thread was deleated her, look at my pryor posting this
date.Â
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Date: 2008/01/07 06:55:46
From: Bernd Salewski <salewski.hambergen(a)ewetel.net>
First, I would like to thank you for responding. I am truly grateful. Yes, I do have a copy of Heinrich Gottlieb Sievers death certificate. It says his occupation was a Black Smith. When he died he was 75 yrs, 4months, and 9 days old. That is how I confirmed his date of birth as Oct.25, 1832. Also, I was incorrect when I stated that Heinrich Gottlieb Sievers death certificate said he was from Hamburg. It does not list a place of birth other than Germany. I saw Hamburg on his son's death certificate. His son's list his place of birth and his parents. In the spot for father it says,"Henry G. Sievers born in Hamburg,Germany". The informant was a much younger sibling, she is still living today, but don't remember too much.
On Heinrich Gottlieb Sievers ship log it list him as 21yrs,male,from Hannover,and a peasant. What does that mean? Why in 1856 would he have sailed out of Bremen? His brother sailed out of Hamburg in 1863. Why the change? His brother is said to have gone back to Germany to visit their parents in April 1880/1881. It was in a newspaper I fo