Date: 2007/12/01 04:14:45
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
I googled a bit of course. Found this of the area around Hitzacker. clenze mentioned. also author Otto Puffahrt. One has to sink into it deep and explore many links. I enjoyed the book browsing. I enjoyed the photos of the villages and the Elbe river. Wustrow Wendland. Geschichten vom Leben im 20. Jahrhundert in Wort und Bild. Zeitzeugenberichte und Fotos von Wustrow um 1920 bis 1940.www.vordem.de/1900-Tiesmesland.htm - 59k - Der frühere Hauptweg nach Hitzacker führte von hier über die Höhen. ... Tiesmesland und das Forsthaus Junkerwerder 1893. Andere Orte im Kapitel ...www.vordem.de/2007-Tiessau-und-Tiesmesland.htm - 50k - [ More results from www.vordem.de ] Spurensuche am Forsthaus Junkerwerder- [ Translate this page ] Der frühere Hauptweg nach Hitzacker führte von hier über die Höhen. ... Tiesmesland und das Forsthaus Junkerwerder 1893. Andere Orte im Kapitel ...www.vordem.de/2007-Tiessau-und-Tiesmesland.htm - 50k - [ More results from www.vordem.de ] _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007
Date: 2007/12/01 06:59:13
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>
Dear Hazel, Long-shot thought... alt-spelling perhaps..WIECHENS. Warmest Regards, Barbie-Lew> From: r.h.bernatz(a)t-online.de> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:56:02 +0100> Subject: Re: [HN] Wetchen> > Hi Bernd,> > Thanks for the Info re. the variations of the name Wetchen. I'll look > through your database.> > My problem is I do not know exactly where my ancestors came from. That is > what I am trying to find out. In 1816, when Friedrich Heinrich Gehle was > born, they were living in Bremen. In 1842 they were apparently living in > Neumünster. They most likely originate from Hannover though. I have traced > a Maria Dorothea Wetchen born in Gross Sittensen, Hannover on 15.04.1761. > This is the same name as my Maria Wetchen. There must be some connection.> > Hazel> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernd Salewski" <salewski.hambergen(a)ewetel.net>> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:43 PM> Subject: Re: [HN] Wetchen> > > Hi Hazel,> > Wetjen/Wätjen is a very common name in Germany.> Without any place whre your relative are from you will get> some problems.> > In my datases of Stuhr and Teufelsmoor you will find some> > Regards> Bernd> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <r.h.bernatz(a)t-online.de>> To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:20 AM> Subject: [HN] Wetchen> > > > Hello!> >> > I am researching the families Wetchen and Gehle.> >> > My ancestors were:> >> > 1.. Maria Wetchen, the daughter of Heinrich Wetchen.> > 2.. Johann Friedrich Gehle.> > 3.. Friedrich Heinrich Gehle, the son of Maria Wetchen and Johann> > Friedrich Gehle (born illegitimately in 1816)> >> > I have reached a dead end. Please help me!> >> > _____________________________________> >> > Hallo!> >> > Ich recherchiere die Familien Wetchen und Gehle.> >> > Meine Vorfahren waren:> >> > 1.. Maria Wetchen, die Tochter des Heinrich Wetchen.> > 2.. Johann Friedrich Gehle.> > 3.. Friedrich Heinrich Gehle, der Sohn der Maria Wetchen und Johann> > Friedrich Gehle (1816 außerehelich geboren)> >> > Ich habe einen Totenpunkt erreicht. Bitte helfen Sie mir weiter!> >> >> > Hazel Bernatz (geb. Gehle)> >> >> >> > -- > > Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter für private Anwender,> > die bei mir bis jetzt 2932 Spammails entfernt hat.> > Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails.> > Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde> > ______________________________________________> >> > Hannover-L mailing list> > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > -- > Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter für private Anwender,> die bei mir bis jetzt 2395 Spammails entfernt hat.> Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails.> Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde> > > ______________________________________________> > Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > -- > Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter für private Anwender,> die bei mir bis jetzt 2970 Spammails entfernt hat.> Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails.> Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde> > > ______________________________________________> > Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007
Date: 2007/12/01 07:19:30
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Date: 2007/12/01 13:29:38
From: Falk Liebezeit <FalkLiebe(a)t-online.de>
Liebe Listenleser Dear listreaders, Da plaediere ich fuer selbst = selbst. = selbstaendig, also ohne Beihilfen, oeffentliche Unterstuetzung etc. So finde ich es immer wieder in Meldelisten selbst. = independent, without help by public funds etc. as to be found in registration lists Greetings, gruss A nice 1st Advent - schoenen ersten Advent Falk Liebezeit Diepholz -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von r.h.bernatz(a)t-online.de Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 07:19 An: Hannover-L Betreff: Re: [HN] Meaning of Landwirt, selbst Sounds Good. Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mona" <HeritageHunt(a)Sandyview.info> To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [HN] Meaning of Landwirt, selbst The "selbst" is reflective, and out of context we can't see what it's referring too, but I've most often seen the word as a description of where the person lived. So I'm guessing it means that he was a farmer from this place, from here. I trust you know where "here" refers to. :> Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt(a)sandyview.info http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l -- Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter für private Anwender, die bei mir bis jetzt 3190 Spammails entfernt hat. Bezahlende Anwender haben diesen Hinweis nicht in ihren E-Mails. Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/01 17:40:32
From: r.h.bernatz <r.h.bernatz(a)t-online.de>
Liebe Listenleser Dear listreaders,
Da plaediere ich fuer selbst = selbst. = selbstaendig, also ohne Beihilfen, oeffentliche Unterstuetzung etc.
selbst. = independent, without help by public funds etc. as to be found in registration lists
Falk Liebezeit Diepholz
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von r.h.bernatz(a)t-online.de Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 07:19 An: Hannover-L Betreff: Re: [HN] Meaning of Landwirt, selbst
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mona" <HeritageHunt(a)Sandyview.info> To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [HN] Meaning of Landwirt, selbst
The "selbst" is reflective, and out of context we can't see what it's referring too, but I've most often seen the word as a description of where the person lived.
So I'm guessing it means that he was a farmer from this place, from here. I trust you know where "here" refers to. :>
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Date: 2007/12/01 17:48:24
From: Pam Sullivan <hope9(a)comcast.net>
To Joe Meyer Reason Reinecke Reineke you may find some help in German poetry of 1700s and 1100s Reinecke, usually Hanover and Hamburg Son of Reineke Unfortunately Reineke name from famous epic poem Reineke Voss However see also Reineking Not connected to Rein/Reinen (Frisia),Reinboth, Reinbolt/Reinbold See German Names Hanes Bahlow / Edda Gentry 1794 Reinecke / Reineke Winckelmann / Goethe and the popularity of Reineke name after 1794 The apostle of this neo-Hellenism was Johann Joachim Winckelmann (d. 1768), the founder of the historical study of art. He postulated the canons of ancient Greek art as absolute. The classicism that he inaugurated was directly opposed in spirit to the national tendency championed by Herder. Lessing's work had shown the influence of this neo-Hellenism. Now Goethe became its pronounced follower. The works that he wrote under its influence exhibit perfection of form, notably the dramas "Egmont" (1788), "Iphigenie auf Tauris" (1787), and "Torquato Tasso" (1790). Goethe's literary productions during this period, before 1794, are not numerous; they include the "Romanische Elegien" and the epic "Reineke Fuchs" (1794), a free version in hexameters from the Old Low German. Other Early German poetry During the ninth and tenth centuries German poetry fell into neglect; at the courts of the Saxon (919-1024) and Franconian emperors (1024-1125) and in the monasteries the Latin language was almost exclusively cultivated, and thus a body of Latin poetry arose, of which the tenth-century "Waltharius" (Waltharilied) of Ekkehard, a monk of St. Gall (d. 973), the "Ruodlieb" (1030), and the "Ecbasis Captivi" (c. 940) are the most noteworthy examples. The "Waltharilied" relates an old Burgundian saga and is thoroughly German in spirit, while the "Ecbasis" is the oldest medieval beast epic that we possess 1170 and Reinecke/ Reineke by Heinrich der Glichesaere Among these "König Rother" (c. 1160) is conspicuous. Its subject is an old Germanic saga, and the role which the Orient, Constantinople in this case, plays therein shows the influence of the Crusades. Still more noticeable is this fondness for the Orient in "Herzog Ernst" (c. 1190), where the historical hero, Duke Ernest II of Swabia (d. 1030), is represented as a pilgrim to the Holy Land and the subject of marvellous adventures in the Far East. From this period dates also the first German beast epic, "Reinhart Fuchs," by Heinrich der Glichesaere (c. 1170). I hope this helps in some way. Merry Christmas Pam Homeyer Sullivan Arkansas USA
Date: 2007/12/01 18:34:26
From: Pam Sullivan <hope9(a)comcast.net>
Dear Jo Meyer It seems the family name Luhmann needs geography carifications Luhmann frequently from Hamburg L German Ludemann Rule being that a consonant might drop between vowels Thus Ludemann Middle Ages Ludolf there is a Ludeman/Ludolf in Stralsund 1300 Luhn river East Frisia Luhnen on the Lippe River at town Brese/ Breese See word for coal in several languages Spanish brasa= a coal, ember: from Old French brese "a coal" (Modern French braise), probably from Germanic (*)bres-, (*)bhres-, from the IE root (*)bhreu- [26] http://en.wikipedia.org origin of spanish words from Germany Breese a town in Germany near Wittenberg north west of Berlin Von Brese - enobled German name of unknown origin There are 2 DANNENBERGs towns one near Elbe river ill fated in 1214 Or the village near Marienheide But what type of church? Lutheran Catholic Dannenberg is a town in the district Lüchow-Dannenberg, in Lower Saxony. It is situated near the river Elbe, approx. 30 km north of Salzwedel, and 50 km south-east of Lüneburg. See private coat of arms for Landcress Dannenburg to see if it came after 1214 or not * The coats of arms of the German town of Dannenberg and Landkreis Dannenberg * And village of Dannenberg at Marienheide is located about 50 km east of Cologne. 1214 Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II issued a Golden Bull surrendering all German territories north of the rivers Elbe and Elde to Valdemar the Victorious. An action provoking many German nobles. In 1223, the fates were reversed when Count Henry I of Schwerin (a.k.a. Heinrich der Schwarze) abducted Valdemar and his eldest son and imprisoned them in the Waldemarturm of Castle Dannenberg. Henry demanded that Valdemar should surrender all of his conquests in Germany and instead swear allegiance to the Holy Roman Emperor. In fact, Emperor Frederick II tried to intervene and arrange Valdemar's release, but he was rebuffed by Count Henry. Sorry I could not help more. I don't know enough Pam Sullivan Arkansas USA
Date: 2007/12/01 19:36:31
From: Vera Möller-Schwertner <vera(a)moeller-schwertner.de>
Liebe Listies,
ich habe eine Sophie Wilhelmine Eleonore HITZEMANN *~1802 in Meinsen,31676
Bückeburg. Sie hat Elias WILHELMI am 17.10.1833 vermutlich in Bremen
geheiratet und ist am 18.11.1865 in Bremen gestorben.
Ich suche: 1. ihr genaues Geburtsdatum und
2. Geburts-, Sterbe- und Ehedaten ihrer Eltern: Johann
HITZEMANN + vor 1833 und Maria Leonore HARTMANN
+vor 1833.
Hoffentlich hat jemand etwas passendes für mich!
Vielen Dank und einen schönen 1.Advent an alle Listies
Vera (Möller-Schwertner) Hamburg
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Date: 2007/12/01 20:02:42
From: hssjd <hssjd(a)peoplepc.com>
Jim Danielsen Stoughton, WI
Date: 2007/12/01 20:57:45
From: Björn Sassenberg <post(a)bjoern-sassenberg.de>
Meine Daten: www.bjoern-sassenberg.de/page7.html
ich habe eine Sophie Wilhelmine Eleonore HITZEMANN *~1802 in Meinsen,31676 Bückeburg. Sie hat Elias WILHELMI am 17.10.1833 vermutlich in Bremen geheiratet und ist am 18.11.1865 in Bremen gestorben.
2. Geburts-, Sterbe- und Ehedaten ihrer Eltern: Johann HITZEMANN + vor 1833 und Maria Leonore HARTMANN +vor 1833.
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Date: 2007/12/01 22:05:49
From: Vera Möller-Schwertner <vera(a)moeller-schwertner.de>
Hallo, Björn,
1000 Dank für die Weiterleitung und Deine Info!
Zur Zeit sind das die einzigen Personen die ich aus Meinsen habe, aber
vielleicht ändert sich das ja noch....
LG zurück
Vera
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Björn Sassenberg
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 20:58
An: Hannover-L
Betreff: Re: [HN]Suche: Hitzemann / Hartmann in und um Bückeburg
Hallo Vera,
ich habe Deine E-Mail mal an Michael Hartmann weitergeleitet, dessen
Hartmann-Vorfahren aus Meinsen
kamen. Ich denke, er kann Dir helfen. Solltest Du in Meinsen weitere
Generationen erforschen, gib
mir doch bitte wieder Bescheid, da ein Großteil meiner Vorfahren auch von
dort kommt.
Ebenfalls (an alle) einen schönen 1. Advent und viele Grüße aus Langenhagen,
Björn
Meine Daten:
www.bjoern-sassenberg.de/page7.html
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From: "Vera Möller-Schwertner" <vera(a)moeller-schwertner.de>
To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: [HN] Suche: Hitzemann / Hartmann in und um Bückeburg
Liebe Listies,
ich habe eine Sophie Wilhelmine Eleonore HITZEMANN *~1802 in Meinsen,31676
Bückeburg. Sie hat Elias WILHELMI am 17.10.1833 vermutlich in Bremen
geheiratet und ist am 18.11.1865 in Bremen gestorben.
Ich suche: 1. ihr genaues Geburtsdatum und
2. Geburts-, Sterbe- und Ehedaten ihrer Eltern: Johann
HITZEMANN + vor 1833 und Maria Leonore HARTMANN
+vor 1833.
Hoffentlich hat jemand etwas passendes für mich!
Vielen Dank und einen schönen 1.Advent an alle Listies
Vera (Möller-Schwertner) Hamburg
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Date: 2007/12/01 22:42:43
From: svcygnus <svcygnus(a)pocketmail.com>
----- Message from hssjd(a)peoplepc.com --------- Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:02:16 -0600 From: hssjd(a)peoplepc.com Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 48, Eintrag 34 To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Hello Jim,
Thank you for your response. Yes, I reviewed the book, "Germans in America" by Glazier/Filby a few years ago. It is available in the Davenport Public Library about 70 miles from my home. The reason I was looking for the German or Austrian records was to determine his family and military background. I know that he fought on the side of the Schleswig-Holstein revolutionary army which lost in that war in 1850. I suspect that he left Hamburg in an attempt to escape the authorities in power at the time. That may be one of the reasons that he does not appear on the Hamburg Passenger Lists of 1851. The record of the "NoordAmerika" when it arrived in the New York in May 1851 shows "H. Ramming, f(female)", but all dates including his birthday are correct, so I assumed that either a mistake was made or that he left in disguise. At any rate, it remains a mystery to me. If you have any further thoughts, I would welcome them.
Thanks for your interest,
Harlan
Date: 2007/12/01 23:55:11
From: Loretta Krumwiede Barlow <krumbar(a)comcast.net>
Date: 2007/12/02 02:01:17
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
) Timesland und das Forsthaus Junkerwerder bei Hitzacker- ------------------------------ In answer to those who wonder and to "Pam Sullivan" <hope9(a)comcast.net>Subject: [HN] Reineke Reinecke Joe Meyer msg 9 Nov 30 2007To: "Hannover-L(a)Genealogy. Net" hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Because of my lack of insight to put the right place in my posting. I have been so busy posting lately to Manfred Puffahrt, I took for granted it would be known. But you are correct. There are two of a lot of places. I am glad not for Nahrendorf. That is the church I wrote to for my Information. I also wrote to Radenbeck church and there are two of those Radenbeck. I wrote to Thomasburg which it is location. I know from my posting on message board at rootsweb that Reinecke can come from France,and Luxembourg and the Little area by Elbe below Hamburg and maybe east. In Luneburg Stadt. If one browses Heinrich Borstelmans book about the landownership in Bleckede area one sees the name in my many favorite villages. But then Schutschur and Darchau and a few others of my interest are in Danneberg church district maybe or in the political district. I will have to check the link I have of Sprengel. [Hope I spelled that right} or Kirch spiel. maybe right. I was googling taking the long way around leaving out word " Kirche" I was looking for a nice site of church of Dannenberg by the Elbe. The area of Concentration camp during the war. Area by Luchow. I then found the subject above which I posted to google and received a little education on life there by the border.. It has so many links and covers so many delicious books translated by google of course. So many delicious pictures perfect on a night like this. Nice to travel there online and browse. A few years ago I read a diary written about some Meyer who immigrated to usa and lived in that area by Hitzacker during the time of one of the wars. I have not found it again since then. I had hopes of finding it. It is full of links and I might still find it. So hope you see what I saw. It covers Breese in der Marsch and two or three other ones. Browse the one on villages and it will leave no doubt the area of my interest. The entire site covers some of the war events, changes and life. True the translation leaves one wondering at times, but it does a good enough job. Enjoy. >From the snowy Wi. nite. Jo Meyer Ps. I would like to find someone who has translated the various ownerships of the villages written in Heinrich Borstelmans book on Bleckede. So I can compare what I have translated to theirs. There are some of the old script that I have not translated all that well. I find the i,t,l, and s confusing as well as many others. I _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM
Date: 2007/12/02 05:18:20
From: svcygnus <svcygnus(a)pocketmail.com>
----- Message from krumbar(a)comcast.net --------- Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:55:06 -0500 From: Loretta Krumwiede Barlow <krumbar(a)comcast.net> Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Subject: Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 48, Eintrag 34 To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
I wonder if that's why I can't find my paternal great-grandfather's immigration even though I can find his older brothers' and even a cousin's? He was the youngest and 24 when he arrived (known because he married his sweetheart who was already here almost immediately). Would that still have been of an age to be drafted? ......
Date: 2007/12/02 14:19:07
From: Hagen Campsheide <hagen.campsheide(a)ewetel.net>
Date: 2007/12/02 14:25:30
From: thorsten <t.minse(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Freunde der Ahnen und Familienforschung Ich habe hier mal wieder ein Problem womit ich nicht weiter komme. Mein 4x Urgroßvater Johann Heinrich SIEDIKOM - Weber in Copperby Geb. Goslar oo 10.09.1814 - Karby Metta Catharina BRUHN gesch. PAULSEN ist aus Goslar nach Karby gekommen. In Goslar gibt es ein Johann Heinrich Christian Suedeckum oo 05.10.1810 Johanne Dorothee BUNNENBERG wie bekomme ich heraus ob diese beiden Personen die selben sind. Im Ausschnitt vom Trauregister Karby Jahrgang 1814 Nr. 11 steht leider nicht on der Johann Heinrich schon einmal verheiratet war. Und in Goslar und Salzgitter konnte man nicht festellen ob eine Johanne Dorothee BUNNENBERG in der Zeit zwischen 1810 - 1814 gestorben ist. Wer kann mir hier weiter helfen. Danke schon einmal im voraus Lieben Gruß thorsten
Date: 2007/12/02 19:52:41
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
I read a little bit about it at my new favorite chronicle site. That I google Tosterglope Ventschau. Under title below at google then translate. history chapter 10 http://www.tosterglope.de It says the villagers picked undesiable villagers first. And many went to Mecklenburg as well to escape. But I thought eventually there was a problem there too. I know I have one family at mecklenburg that lost many lives in wars with russia. If you read more it is sad to think what they had to put up with. all those people trooping through. feeding more than your own suffering the consequences. Then the wars. No wonder you would want better for your children. I understand that after that timeperiod military service was years and years. My Wilhelm did not marry until 1873. He was born in 1843. I think he went into sevice about 1860. Maybe what you said about hard to leave when military duty was coming up is the reason Fred's his family went to great lengths for him to leave. The method is at AIDA. First one aunt in america wrote he schould come. Then a second letter saying they could stay with them. And His father saying he would pay. Then Him saying he had decided. _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM
Date: 2007/12/02 20:02:15
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
Hello, I have looked at the Toronto district phone book and there are about 20 families with the surname of SCHROEDER. It gives their addresses and phone numbers. If you like, I can scan the page and send it along to you. I do not see anything for Wilheim or Fred. Please let me know and I would be pleased to send you the page. Regards, Alexandra Tesluk Toronto ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "tesluk(a)rogers.com" <tesluk(a)rogers.com> To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:46:33 PM Subject: Re: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Hello, I will see what I can do....my pleasure. However I am in Canada.....they could very well have settled here too. I will keep you updated. Regards, Alexandra Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Gerald Bailey <g.bailey3308(a)sbcglobal.net> To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:04:43 AM Subject: Re: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Maybe you can help me. I am looking for a Schroeder family that came from Hannover to the USA about 1879 -1881 time frame. They were brothers Wilhelm and Fred Schroeder. They came at different times. Thanks Michael Klees <mklees(a)htp-tel.de> wrote: Hello Alexandra, there are no Tesluk families in Hannover. But you will find some in South Germany. Look: www.dastelefonbuch.de Greetings from Hannover Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Hannover-L" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Hello, Are there any Tesluk (Tesliuk) families living in Hannover city and area? Thank you. Alexandra Tesluk Toronto Canada ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/03 00:05:38
From: Joel S. Russell <jsruss(a)mindspring.com>
Date: 2007/12/03 07:19:59
From: Eberhard Haering <eb.haering(a)gmx.de>
If someone has a few minutes to translate a death entry would they please contact me.Send a copy over to me, I'll try.
Thank you!
Joel
Date: 2007/12/03 21:24:30
From: Marina Schlobohm <marinaschlobohm(a)yahoo.de>
Hallo Listies,
gibt es die Familienbücher von Franz Stelljes noch irgendwo zu kaufen?
Das 2. Buch von Lilienthal habe ich. Ich weiß auch dass das Buch von St. Jürgen nicht mehr käuflich zu erwerben ist.
Herzliche Grüße
Marina
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Date: 2007/12/04 15:58:39
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>
Date: 2007/12/04 21:25:27
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>
Hallo, zusammen, suche alles in Hameln vor 1700 zu diesen Namen, 1689 und 1585 bekannt. Toter Punkt Bastian Grawe, 1658 als Vater zu Hameln bei der Trauung seiner Tochter in Bodenwerder. Mit besten Grüßen aus Göttingen Stadt die Wissen schafft Reinhard J. Freytag
Date: 2007/12/04 21:31:25
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>
Hallo, zusammen. Besitze Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, leider nicht das Register bis 1700. Suche PRALL(E), PRELL(E) bis 1700. Verfügt jemand über den Registerband (Gibt es überhaupt einen?) und kann einmal nachsehen, ob die o.a. Namen vorkommen? Schon jetzt tausend Dank, bin zu Gegenleistungen bereit. Mit besten Grüßen aus Göttingen Stadt die Wissen schafft Reinhard J. Freytag
Date: 2007/12/04 23:03:28
From: capablanca <capablanca(a)freenet.de>
Hallo liebe Mitforschenden, ich suche allerhand Daten zum FN Gorgas in denJerichower Landen, Westhavelland und allgemein in Elbe-Havel-Winkel ... Wem sind Gorgas-Daten aus diesen Regionen untergekommen? Würde mich sehr über Austausch freuen ... Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen und den Eintrag GORGAS im Deutschen Geschlechterbuch nachsehen (evtl. S. 22-24, welcher Band?), habe gehört dort sollen Schmiedemeister Gorgas aus dem Kreis Jerichow auftauchen? Ich bedanke mich für eure Hilfe und wünsche einen schönen Dienstagabend! Gruß aus Berlin Gordon (Schwitters) -- [1][site=fn&prod=chetools&kat=rub&tbl=webmail&ppos=14&TransactionID=11 96805716600256&rgtg=256] References 1. http://adserver.freenet.de/click.ng/site=fn&prod=chetools&kat=rub&tbl=webmail&ppos=14&TransactionID=1196805716600256&rgtg=256
Date: 2007/12/05 18:51:06
From: Bernd Salewski <salewski.hambergen(a)ewetel.net>
Auch ich habe Vorfahren (Segelke, osterkamp und Wohlers) aus Campheide in meiner AL.
Meine Daten sind in den OFB Stuhr und Teufelsmoor zu finden.
Gruß Bernd Salewski
Hallo mein Name ist Campsheide .Ich habe eine Nachricht einer Frau Jane Swan aus Amerika gelesen, in der sie nach weiteren Informationen über die Familie Campsheide aus Kampsheide bei Asendorf fragt.Da ich Ihre E-Mail Adresse nicht habe ,möchte ich versuchen, sie über diesen Weg zu erreichen Mein Vater stammt aus Kampsheide. Falls Frau Swan weitere Informationen wünscht,möge sie sich bitte per E-Mail an mich wenden . MfG Hagen Campsheide ______________________________________________
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Date: 2007/12/05 19:57:55
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
If any one is looking in this area Try this site. http://www2.genealogy.net/vereine/ArGeWe/sw/Papierfabrikanten.htm I am not sure whose it is but it is a very well done page. I have decided to try google.de for a change.[ wink] Someone asked for a better location to Link I had mentioned last week. And I lost it. So I am hunting for it. _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline
Date: 2007/12/05 21:42:23
From: Erika Trueman <erika.trueman(a)ntlworld.com>
Hallo an alle, Ich bin gerade dabei, einen Teil eines deutsches Familienbuch der Familie BRAKEBUSCH fuer meine Kinder ins englische zu uebersetzen. Dabei kommen oft Berufe vor, fuer die ich einfach nicht weiss, wie ich sie nennen soll. Kann mir jemand bitte etwas mehr erklaeren, was die folgenden Berufe sind, damit ich so in etwa ein englisches Aequivalent finde? Ich glaube, dass viele davon der Groesse des Landes/Hofes entsprechen, denn bei manchen sind zwei Berufe angegeben, aber es wuerde mir helfen, wenn ich Variationen von 'Farmer' schreiben kann um die verschiedenen sozialen und finanziellen Hintergruende klar zu machen. Halbspaenner Halbkoeter Ganzkoeter Grosskoeter Kleinkoeter Brinksitzer Brinkmann (das gleiche wie Brinksitzer)? Knochenhauer Kotsass Grosskotsass Haeusling Krueger Rademacher Vielen Dank schon einmal im voraus. Erika Leeds, England
Date: 2007/12/05 23:17:48
From: Karolakertel <Karolakertel(a)aol.com>
Hallo Erika, schau mal folgende Seiten: _www.ahnen-ploeger.de_ (http://www.ahnen-ploeger.de) _www.heilbronn-neckar.de/Berufe/d.htm_ (http://www.heilbronn-neckar.de/Berufe/d.htm) Grüße Karola
Date: 2007/12/06 00:15:15
From: Maureen <mcshelly2(a)msn.com>
My great-grandfather Martin Lynch -- who came from England and spoke the Queen's English -- was also listed as a female on the ship's passenger list, although he was accompanied by his wife and six of his eight children! We have also found several mistakes of the same type in Census Records. If the rest matches, believe it! - M. ----- Original Message ----- From: hssjd(a)peoplepc.com To: Hannover-L Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 48, Eintrag 34 Hello Jim, Thank you for your response. Yes, I reviewed the book, "Germans in America" by Glazier/Filby a few years ago. It is available in the Davenport Public Library about 70 miles from my home. The reason I was looking for the German or Austrian records was to determine his family and military background. I know that he fought on the side of the Schleswig-Holstein revolutionary army which lost in that war in 1850. I suspect that he left Hamburg in an attempt to escape the authorities in power at the time. That may be one of the reasons that he does not appear on the Hamburg Passenger Lists of 1851. The record of the "NoordAmerika" when it arrived in the New York in May 1851 shows "H. Ramming, f(female)", but all dates including his birthday are correct, so I assumed that either a mistake was made or that he left in disguise. At any rate, it remains a mystery to me. If you have any further thoughts, I would welcome them. Thanks for your interest, Harlan Dear List Readers, I have for 3 years researched HEINRICH RAMMING VON REIDKIRCHEN, (Henry Ramming), * 4 May 1822 in Nimburgh, Austria , + 1862/63 in New Orleans while a Major in the Union Army. Heinrich was an Austrian Army Officer who later fought in the Schleswig-Holstein Army as a Captain in 1850. (He was on the defeated side.) He arrived in New York on 21 May 1851 on the bargue NoordAmerika from Hamburg. He was an editor of a newspaper, Der Demokrat, in Davenport, Iowa until 1861 when he joined the Union Army. My problem is this; I can find no record of emigration or passage in any Hamburg Passenger Lists or other German documents. Can you help me please. Thank you, Harlan Nieuwsma from Iowa Hello: There is a problem with obtaining passage records on the German side for Hamburg and Bremen. They were the major departure points for Germans immigrating (US or elsewhere). Many - if not most - of the records on the German side have been destroyed or lost. On the American side of the ocean, the arrival records have been partially reconstructed and published. "Germans to America - List of Passengers Arriving at U.S. Ports", edited by Ira A. Glazier and William P. Filby, Scholarly Resources, Inc., Wilmington, DE, copyrighted 1990, Library of Congress # 929.3'08931-dc19; # 184.G3G38 1988. There are many volumes with records listed by year. The volumes are at the Wisconsin State Historical Society here in Madison, Wisconsin. I know the collection is in other libraries and societies around the country. If is not available in Iowa, it might be worth a trip to Madison. Best Regards! Jim Danielsen Stoughton, WI ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/06 07:20:38
From: Walter, Stephan <s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de>
I am the author of the article mentioned below. If there are any questions, don´t hesitate to contact me! Stephan Dr. Stephan Walter Arzt für Innere Medizin / Nephrologie Hypertensiologe DHL Chefarzt der Nephrologischen Abteilung am St. Vincenz Krankenhaus Limburg St. Vincenz Krankenhausgesellschaft mbH Auf dem Schafsberg D-65549 Limburg Fon +49-6431-292-4361, -0 Fax +49-6431-292-4363 s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von jo meyer Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2007 19:58 An: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Betreff: [HN] Bodenteich website very nice Geselle mentioned If any one is looking in this area Try this site. http://www2.genealogy.net/vereine/ArGeWe/sw/Papierfabrikanten.htm I am not sure whose it is but it is a very well done page. I have decided to try google.de for a change.[ wink] Someone asked for a better location to Link I had mentioned last week. And I lost it. So I am hunting for it. _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l -- Krankenhausgesellschaft St. Vincenz mbH Auf dem Schafsberg 65549 Limburg Geschäftsführer: Klaus-Werner Szesik Registergericht: Amtsgericht Limburg Registernummer: HRB 1885 Vorsitzender des Verwaltungsrates: RA Erwin Reuhl Internet: www.st-vincenz.de www.anna-kh.de
Date: 2007/12/06 16:34:42
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
You are a very kind man. The Name Geselle was mispelled and should have been Gesell. Thank You for not embarassing me. I have to check the spelling. But I believe a family by that name is the one that had Mr. Bock do a family tree heirtage of the hof 30 of Oldendorf in der Gohrde. By Nahrendorf. Names of Rosseburg, Ahrens, Michels, Koopman, Bruns, Harms. There was the name Bodenteich, I think. I don't rember if that name was connected with Sueschendorf or Oldendorf. It is hard sometimes when a translator cannot translate some words. It also mentioned families of Nr. 2 or 3 Hof of Sueschendorf. Reinecke, also mentioned. It did mention a name of a person Mollman from Hitzacker who bought some land. And that is why I am snooping in the Hitzacker area. And found this web page. I am sure that factory brought lots of employment. If you think your Gesell could be connected at all with the one at Oldendorf or Sueschendorf, maybe we should 'talk'. Message: 6> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:20:07 +0100> From: "Walter, Stephan" <s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de>> Subject: Re: [HN] Bodenteich website very nice Geselle mentioned> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>> Message-ID:> <562CBBBB329ADE408CAE6E80D7827BFD012234EB(a)exchange.st-vincenz.de>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I am the author of the article mentioned below.> If there are any questions, don´t hesitate to contact me!> > Stephan> > > Dr. Stephan Walter> Arzt für Innere Medizin / Nephrologie> Hypertensiologe DHL> Chefarzt der Nephrologischen Abteilung am> St. Vincenz Krankenhaus Limburg> St. Vincenz Krankenhausgesellschaft mbH> Auf dem Schafsberg> D-65549 Limburg> Fon +49-6431-292-4361, -0> Fax +49-6431-292-4363> s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de> > > Betreff: [HN] Bodenteich website very nice Geselle mentioned> > > If any one is looking in this area Try this site.> http://www2.genealogy.net/vereine/ArGeWe/sw/Papierfabrikanten.htm> I am not sure whose it is but it is a very well done page.> 65549 Limburg> Geschäftsführer: Klaus-Werner Szesik> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Limburg> Registernummer: HRB 1885> Vorsitzender des > Verwaltungsrates: RA Erwin Reuhl> Internet: www.st-vincenz.de www.anna-kh.de> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > Ende Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 49, Eintrag 7> ******************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007
Date: 2007/12/06 16:39:16
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>
In Sachen Berufe möchte ich auch noch meine "Sammlung" vorstellen: http://der-fillaepp.realmaddin.net/klaus/nicht-nur-fuer-schleswig-holstein.html
Date: 2007/12/06 20:08:10
From: Heinz Bredthauer <Heinz.Bredthauer(a)t-online.de>
Date: 2007/12/06 23:55:58
From: Georgia Bruns <georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com>
Could someone be so kind to look up this address for this couple? In the phone book. I just want to make sure I have the correct address to send them a letter and a card this year. You may contact me directly if you would like at georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com Herr und Frau Christoph Burghardt Küusterhorst 3 31632 Husum-Schessinghausen Deutschland Germany Thanks ever so much. I have not been active on this list this year due to some serious illness. May God Bless everyone and have a Blessed Christmas Gesegnete Weihnachten und ein glückliches neues Jahr!
Date: 2007/12/07 08:05:50
From: Walter, Stephan <s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de>
Jo, I cannot see any connection yet, but we should keep this posibility in mind as our ancestors were very mobile :-)) Stephan Dr. Stephan Walter Arzt für Innere Medizin / Nephrologie Hypertensiologe DHL Chefarzt der Nephrologischen Abteilung am St. Vincenz Krankenhaus Limburg St. Vincenz Krankenhausgesellschaft mbH Auf dem Schafsberg D-65549 Limburg Fon +49-6431-292-4361, -0 Fax +49-6431-292-4363 s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von jo meyer Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Dezember 2007 16:34 An: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Betreff: Re: [HN] Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 49, Eintrag 7 You are a very kind man. The Name Geselle was mispelled and should have been Gesell. Thank You for not embarassing me. I have to check the spelling. But I believe a family by that name is the one that had Mr. Bock do a family tree heirtage of the hof 30 of Oldendorf in der Gohrde. By Nahrendorf. Names of Rosseburg, Ahrens, Michels, Koopman, Bruns, Harms. There was the name Bodenteich, I think. I don't rember if that name was connected with Sueschendorf or Oldendorf. It is hard sometimes when a translator cannot translate some words. It also mentioned families of Nr. 2 or 3 Hof of Sueschendorf. Reinecke, also mentioned. It did mention a name of a person Mollman from Hitzacker who bought some land. And that is why I am snooping in the Hitzacker area. And found this web page. I am sure that factory brought lots of employment. If you think your Gesell could be connected at all with the one at Oldendorf or Sueschendorf, maybe we should 'talk'. Message: 6> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:20:07 +0100> From: "Walter, Stephan" <s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de>> Subject: Re: [HN] Bodenteich website very nice Geselle mentioned> To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>> Message-ID:> <562CBBBB329ADE408CAE6E80D7827BFD012234EB(a)exchange.st-vincenz.de>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I am the author of the article mentioned below.> If there are any questions, don´t hesitate to contact me!> > Stephan> > > Dr. Stephan Walter> Arzt für Innere Medizin / Nephrologie> Hypertensiologe DHL> Chefarzt der Nephrologischen Abteilung am> St. Vincenz Krankenhaus Limburg> St. Vincenz Krankenhausgesellschaft mbH> Auf dem Schafsberg> D-65549 Limburg> Fon +49-6431-292-4361, -0> Fax +49-6431-292-4363> s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de> > > Betreff: [HN] Bodenteich website very nice Geselle mentioned> > > If any one is looking in this area Try this site.> http://www2.genealogy.net/vereine/ArGeWe/sw/Papierfabrikanten.htm> I am not sure whose it is but it is a very well done page.> 65549 Limburg> Geschäftsführer: Klaus-Werner Szesik> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Limburg> Registernummer: HRB 1885> Vorsitzender des > Verwaltungsrates: RA Erwin Reuhl> Internet: www.st-vincenz.de www.anna-kh.de> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > Ende Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 49, Eintrag 7> ******************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live(tm). http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l -- Krankenhausgesellschaft St. Vincenz mbH Auf dem Schafsberg 65549 Limburg Geschäftsführer: Klaus-Werner Szesik Registergericht: Amtsgericht Limburg Registernummer: HRB 1885 Vorsitzender des Verwaltungsrates: RA Erwin Reuhl Internet: www.st-vincenz.de www.anna-kh.de
Date: 2007/12/07 08:29:43
From: Klaus Gebhardt <klausgebhardt(a)googlemail.com>
Good luck Klaus
Could someone be so kind to look up this address for this couple? In the phone book. I just want to make sure I have the correct address to send them a letter and a card this year.
You may contact me directly if you would like at georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com
Herr und Frau Christoph Burghardt
Küusterhorst 3
31632 Husum-Schessinghausen
Deutschland
Germany
Thanks ever so much. I have not been active on this list this year due to some serious illness.
May God Bless everyone and have a Blessed Christmas
Gesegnete Weihnachten und ein glückliches neues Jahr! ______________________________________________
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Date: 2007/12/07 09:37:42
From: Gerd Lauing <Lauing.Gerd(a)t-online.de>
"Georgia Bruns" <georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com> schrieb: > Could someone be so kind to look up this address for this couple? In the phone book. I just want to make sure I have the correct address to send them a letter and a card this year. > > You may contact me directly if you would like at georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com > > > > Herr und Frau Christoph Burghardt > > Küusterhorst 3 > > 31632 Husum-Schessinghausen > > Deutschland > > Germany > > Thanks ever so much. I have not been active on this list this year due to some serious illness. > > May God Bless everyone and have a Blessed Christmas > > Gesegnete Weihnachten und ein glückliches neues Jahr! > ______________________________________________ > > Hannover-L mailing list > Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l > > Hello Georgia, the address is correct so far. You have to write -Küsterhorst- only, but you know I think. Same to you, Gerd (Lauing)
Date: 2007/12/07 14:44:44
From: Georgia Bruns <georgianuehring(a)hotmail.com>
Dear List, Thanks so much for your fast replies Klaus Gebhardt and Gerd Lauing. Everyone is so kind and helpful. My father's family is from the Husum area. Nühring is the name I study from there. Again, thank you so much. Sincerely, Georgia Nuehring Bruns
Date: 2007/12/07 19:21:00
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>
Liebe Listenleser, folgende Bände stehen online. Gruß Klaus (Riecken) www.Riecken-online.de Geschichte der Lande Braunschweig und Lüneburg Von Wilhelm Havemann 3 Bände 1853, 1855, 1857 stehen online. http://books.google.de/ und nach Lüneburg suchen ->
Date: 2007/12/08 01:58:47
From: Kevin <bertundco(a)yahoo.de>
Hallo liebe Mitleser, Hi everybody,
Heinrich Daniel PAUL, Bauermeister & Ackermann oo Johanne Sophie BREUSTEDT = Georgine Louise Rosine PAUL (*1841, Weddingen bei Vienenburg)
Heinrich Christoph RAUTE, Schlachter/butcher oo Marie Sophie SIEMEN = Herrmann Andreas Christian RAUTHE (*1860, Groß Flöthe/Wolfenbüttel)
Carl Friedrich Christian SUKOPP, Hofmeister oo Sophie Auguste Christiane BURGDORF = Ferdinandine Luise Henriette SUKOPP (*1863, Adersheim/Wolfenbüttel)
I look forward to hearing from you. Ich freue mich über Austausch!
Viele Grüße, Kevin
Date: 2007/12/08 11:29:57
From: Bernd H . Siebert <berndhsiebert(a)t-online.de>
Gruß Bernd Siebert
Hallo, zusammen.
Besitze Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, leider nicht das Register bis 1700.
Suche PRALL(E), PRELL(E) bis 1700.
Verfügt jemand über den Registerband (Gibt es überhaupt einen?)
und kann einmal nachsehen, ob die o.a. Namen vorkommen?
Schon jetzt tausend Dank, bin zu Gegenleistungen bereit.
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Date: 2007/12/08 11:52:31
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>
Liebe Listenleser Interesseirte an der Familie Erythropel http://books.google.de/books?id=k6ABAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA184&dq=Erythropel#PPA186,M1 beinhaltet Dr. G. P. Holscher, Hannoversche Annalen für die gesamte Heilkunde, Eine Zeitschrift, Dritter Band. Erstes Heft, Hannover 1838 Nekrolog des Medicnal-Raths Dr. Erythropel, S. 184 ff Es handelt sich hier um eine Lebensbeschreibung des Mediziners August Christian Erythropel, * Basbeck 28.04.1774, zwei Mal verheiratet, er war Mediziner in Stade, kam durch Sturz vom Pferd ums Leben, Bericht über das Sezieren seines Kopfes. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Klaus (Riecken) www.Riecken-online.de
Date: 2007/12/08 14:21:42
From: Andreas März <Andreas.Maerz(a)as-netz.de>
Liebe Listenteilnehmer! Mein Name ist Andreas März und obwohl ich schon seit Jahren Mitglied dieser Liste bin, habe ich mich in letzter Zeit hier eher eine wenig rar gemacht, weil ich mich mehr mit meinen Vorfahren aus Bayern beschäftigt habe. Nun führte mich aber gerade diese Suche über Thueringen wieder zurück nach Niedersachsen. In Hildburghausen fand ich meine 4xUrGroßmutter Luise Christina HIRSCHFELD (*19.03.1744 in Hildburghausen) oo 24.11.1805 in Hildburghausen, den Regimentstambour Johann Heinrich Martin Karl BLAUROCK (*12.12.1781 in Hildburghausen, + 1810/11 gefallen) Eltern der Luise Christina Johann Anton Ludwig HIRSCHFELD (*16.08.1741 Hildburghausen, +06.04.1803 Hildburghausen), Hofbeutler zu Hildburghausen, 2. oo 23.02.1773 in Hildburghausen, Johanna Elisabeth ORTLEB (* Hildburghausen, +15.09.1788 Hildburghausen) - 1.oo 11.04.1769 Hildburghausen, Albertine Wilhelmine ROSSTEUTSCHER Eltern des Johann Anton Ludwig Johann Heinrich HIRSCHFELD (* Wolfenbüttel, + Hildburghausen), Beutler zu Niederwillingen und Hildburghausen, 2.oo 17.02.1733 Hildburghausen, Anna Katharina LEIDLOFF (+ 26.12.1778 Hildburghausen) - 1.oo 13.02.1725 Niederwillingen, Anna Christina CRANZ (* Niederwillingen, +19.08.1732 Hildburghausen) Eltern des Johann Heinrich Franz Jakob HIRSCHFELD (+ Wolfenbüttel), Beutler zu Wolfenbüttel, oo 20.11.1694 Wolfenbüttel, Anna Elisabeth KONIG/KOENIG (20.08.1667 Bodenstedt, + 24.10.1724 Wolfenbüttel) Wenn jemand von Euch nähere Informationen zu Franz Jakob HIRSCHFELD und/oder Anna Elisabeth KONIG/KOENIG hat, zb. Lebensdaten, Vorfahren und/oder weitere Ehen, Kinder, ... würde ich mich sehr darüber freuen, Diese zu erhalten! Ich verbleibe mit freundlichen Grüßen, Andreas (März) Dauersuche in Niedersachsen: BITTER, BOEHMER, BUDDENBERG, DOHME, HUFENDIEK, HUSS, KASSING, KNIGGE, KNOKE, SCHEELE, SCHEEPER, SCHIEFER, SCHUHMACHER, SIEMERS, STUECKEN, VOIGT, WEBER, WEBERLING, WESSEL, WOERMANN No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: 07.12.2007 13:11
Date: 2007/12/09 10:08:16
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Date: 2007/12/09 10:12:30
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Date: 2007/12/09 19:39:21
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
Hello friends, I have a question to ask. During the timeline after the war how difficult would it be to travel from Hannover's Camp Lyssenko to England, I believe the location was Bournemouth. Would one not need proper travel documentation to leave the country and enter the other. How would I go about getting these documents? I have been searching for my father for years. Would Bournemouth be the place to go for work or were other displaced persons working elsewhere in England. Thank you....you have a great site here! Alexandra Toronto ----- Original Message ---- From: "tesluk(a)rogers.com" <tesluk(a)rogers.com> To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:46:33 PM Subject: Re: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Hello, I will see what I can do....my pleasure. However I am in Canada.....they could very well have settled here too. I will keep you updated. Regards, Alexandra Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Gerald Bailey <g.bailey3308(a)sbcglobal.net> To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:04:43 AM Subject: Re: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Maybe you can help me. I am looking for a Schroeder family that came from Hannover to the USA about 1879 -1881 time frame. They were brothers Wilhelm and Fred Schroeder. They came at different times. Thanks Michael Klees <mklees(a)htp-tel.de> wrote: Hello Alexandra, there are no Tesluk families in Hannover. But you will find some in South Germany. Look: www.dastelefonbuch.de Greetings from Hannover Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Hannover-L" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover Hello, Are there any Tesluk (Tesliuk) families living in Hannover city and area? Thank you. Alexandra Tesluk Toronto Canada ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/09 22:18:39
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Date: 2007/12/10 15:37:10
From: mel schrader <schrader44(a)brookings.net>
I am looking for the city Estorf/Esdorf. I'm not sure of the spelling. In my great grandfather's obituary it said that he was born in Estorf/Esdorf, Kingdom of Hannover, Province of Hermosa. What part of the kingdom was the Province of Hermosa?
Date: 2007/12/10 15:53:20
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
I googled Tesluk trying to hlep Mr Bailey. However, I do not know where his Schroeders come from. It is a very popular name. I discovered Alexanders story. I am hoping you have great success. I am dying to know what you find or found out about your father. jo Meyer _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007
Date: 2007/12/10 16:14:41
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
Hello! I have written my memoir The Ashes of Innocence and it is just going to press. I was in Hannover Germany at the old Lyssenko Camp on Mockenstrasse this August 07 to plant a tree and lay a plaque in honor of my father. I have more answers than I did a few years back but something is nagging me that a man cannot just vanish as he did. Somehow the two photographs that I have do not sustain me and even though the book is written, I feel "closer" to uncovering some questions. Therefore the reason why I am writing with questions as to exit and entry into Hannover during the 1947, 1948 timeline. Thank you for all who have responded. Gratefully, Alexandra Tesluk ----- Original Message ---- From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:53:11 AM Subject: [HN] Tesluk in Hannover I googled Tesluk trying to hlep Mr Bailey. However, I do not know where his Schroeders come from. It is a very popular name. I discovered Alexanders story. I am hoping you have great success. I am dying to know what you find or found out about your father. jo Meyer _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/10 17:21:07
From: fleumer <hmt.rudolf(a)net.hcc.nl>
Ja, es gibt einen Registerband! Pralle steht 2x, Prelle 21x drin. Einzusehen sind die Trauregister bei der Genealogisch-Heraldischen Gesellschaft Göttingen. Ich glaube, auch das Kirchenarchiv in Göttingen verfügt über diese Bände.
Gruß Bernd Siebert
Hallo, zusammen.
Besitze Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, leider nicht das Register bis 1700.
Suche PRALL(E), PRELL(E) bis 1700.
Verfügt jemand über den Registerband (Gibt es überhaupt einen?)
und kann einmal nachsehen, ob die o.a. Namen vorkommen?
Schon jetzt tausend Dank, bin zu Gegenleistungen bereit.
Mit besten Grüßen aus Göttingen Stadt die Wissen schafft Reinhard J. Freytag ______________________________________________
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Date: 2007/12/10 18:28:57
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
I recall three regiment numbers 4,or five,6 for regiment numbers and two for captain rank. fifth or sixth. And so even with this list it is not as easy as it looks. And 127th or 128 infantry. For his Oldendorf/Nahrendorf residence.??? So here is a link address for morman military films. Hope it is easier for someone. http://users.foxvalley.net/~goertz/mil.html I am attempting to find my Jurgen Hch. Wilm Meyer captive area at Metz, Lorraine. At christmas day he was taken prisoner I learned of a book also which is sold out. Perhaps library exchange. Anyone else know of any good sources[ besides military mailing list] for casualties and prisoners of war for that war. Any else find theirs. I think french sources may be it. jo meyer _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline
Date: 2007/12/11 08:01:46
From: Mike Preiss <mpreiss(a)sbcglobal.net>
I can see why this was hard for you to find - google maps has done a terrible job indexing German towns. Try this: on google maps, look up: Nienburg (Weser) - exactly like that. You will find Estorf about 8Km southwest, also next to the Weser River. It's about 50-60Km from the city of Hannover and in the old Duchy of Hannover. No idea what the Hermosa is all about - there's no such province. Maybe some clueless person was referring to the nearby town of Husum?If it was mentioned in whatever records you have, you might want to check in both Estorf and Husum. Mike Preiss San Francisco -----Original Message----- From: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] On Behalf Of mel schrader Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:37 AM To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Subject: [HN] (kein Betreff) I am looking for the city Estorf/Esdorf. I'm not sure of the spelling. In my great grandfather's obituary it said that he was born in Estorf/Esdorf, Kingdom of Hannover, Province of Hermosa. What part of the kingdom was the Province of Hermosa? ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/11 15:35:52
From: Wilfried Petersen <Wilfried.Petersen(a)t-online.de>
"fleumer" <hmt.rudolf(a)net.hcc.nl> schrieb: > Hallo Herr Freytag, > Sie besitzen Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, Koennen Sie Bitte > nachschauen ob sich darin auch Familiennamen WLOME (R) (N) oder > Wloemer/Vloemer/Floemer befinden ?? Bin gespannt.. > Gruss aus Rotterdam > Rudolf Fleumer > Hallo Herr Fleumer, ich bin zwar nicht Herr Freytag, der ja das Register der 10 Lieferungen auch nicht hatte, sondern selbst suchte. Ich kann Ihnen aber Ihre Frage trotzdem beantworten. Es gibt dort 5 Einträge WLÖME, und zwar: Eldagsen 17.04.1678 Wlöme, Stephanus, I.U.Licent., Landfiscal u. Contributionscommissar Weye, Maria, Wwe Joachim Spitzbarth, Pastor prim., Eldagsen 13.02.1681 Spitzbarth, H. Joh. Reinhard / Wlömw, J. Marg. Benigna 05.12.1682 Steiner, Joh. / Weyhe, Maria Elisab., Wwe N. Wlöme, Licentiat 01.08.1689 Wlöme, Mons. Henr. Jacob / Dippe, Anne Elisab. Hajen 22.09.1678 Brunck, Christian, Hauptmann / Wlöme, Cath. Margr. Die anderen Schreibweisen erscheinen dort nicht. Freundliche Grüße, Wilfried Petersen
Date: 2007/12/11 15:44:01
From: fleumer <hmt.rudolf(a)net.hcc.nl>
Guten Tag Herr Petersen, Herzlichen Dank fuer Ihre Aussage !. Einfach spitze , da habe ich ja Glueck!
Gruss aus Rotterdam, Rudolf Fleumer
Hallo Herr Freytag, Sie besitzen Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, Koennen Sie Bitte nachschauen ob sich darin auch Familiennamen WLOME (R) (N) oder Wloemer/Vloemer/Floemer befinden ?? Bin gespannt.. Gruss aus Rotterdam Rudolf Fleumer
ich bin zwar nicht Herr Freytag, der ja das Register der 10 Lieferungen auch nicht hatte, sondern selbst suchte. Ich kann Ihnen aber Ihre Frage trotzdem beantworten. Es gibt dort 5 Einträge WLÖME, und zwar:
Eldagsen 17.04.1678 Wlöme, Stephanus, I.U.Licent., Landfiscal u. Contributionscommissar Weye, Maria, Wwe Joachim Spitzbarth, Pastor prim., Eldagsen
05.12.1682 Steiner, Joh. / Weyhe, Maria Elisab., Wwe N. Wlöme, Licentiat
Hajen 22.09.1678 Brunck, Christian, Hauptmann / Wlöme, Cath. Margr.
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Date: 2007/12/11 17:32:38
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
Alexander, Good luck with everything. [I should have taken this off board.] I think what will make everyone want to read the book is that mystery and the search. We feel your drive. And now we feel part of your search. Maybe for book two!! You have expressed your drive to find him so well. I and others know somewhat that feeling. I have it to find the unknown father of my Grandmother. I don't have pictures of him and I may never find anything. He is not a person to me yet. I have a name August and that he died from kidney infection by a certain date. However, that could have been made up for the insurance papers. If not, at least they knew enough to write that. ? But the drive to dig is there. Almost the same goes for her mothers sisters. I just had to know. Thanks to Hans Peter Albers I was able to find out about them. So I can close the chapter somewhat. In away, For me that much information seems to bring them to life. While I was browsing the Hitzacker and Dannenberg area by the east border, I realized the Nazi and Polish problem couldn't be ignored. [For one becasue the concentration camps were in near distance there and in Belsen Bergen]And not to be ignored because of the difficulties in research. I can not imagine all the obstacles, difficulties you probably have had to get this far. I hope others in the know can help you. I am hoping good will makes its way to you. I can imagine that the book and the attention will draw the right information or the right people to you. I hope more and more records do come to the light. I imagine you have a lot of tips of methods in your book. When I was researching my grandmothers mothers sisters, I misunderstood some names I was given. They turned out to be in Danzig. It was not the Gr grandmothers sisters or family of Himbergen, Uelzen. The mistake was also because the area mentioned was Silesia. Their names belonged to a person from near Danzig that immigrated from Eckersdorf. I have not attempted anything with what is now Poland. I know it will be difficult. I don't even know how to begin it yet. Probably to find the church. I am not sure, if I will like to know the horrors that they may have had to face like those of Czechoslovakia/Bohemia. There are family secrets too and many want them to stay that way. I will have to stress the Privacy issue. So that will make it more difficult to keep the secrets and still dig. And that will be yet another Mailing list I will need to join. I will keep my discussion of that family to another list. Though border areas do bring problems to those in Hannover kingdom. History is there and can't be ignored. Franco Prussian war In regards to my last post about the six week Franco Prussian War. I want to say there are some really good sites in great detail about the two sides of the war. So much on each battle. One article said that the citizens took up arms and I have been thinking that could be one way My Wilhelm could have been captured December 1870. I wanted to read about dysentery and typus [is that caused by fleas] and the hardships. In Paris because the city was circled and blocked the French were starving and eating their horses. It mentioned There was forest at the area around the block which the german soldiers had to pass. With the robbing, potshotting and other crimes going on. I lost my battery Power after I read they ate their last horse..... I am not sure about the climate of Metz and the other areas of France. William only had one pair of boots, one coat, Uniform, socks, and hat. One thing I noted is that Landwher [ could be spelled wrong] soldiers came to fight at the end. I shall have to go back a issue or two and see the meaning of that landwher. It said They had Wives and family and were older in their Forties or more. They were probably not good marksman or in combat physical shape. I don't agree with that opinion. Nor this one. That they would be more willing to surrender because of those who depended on them. The advantage though is that they were fresh to combat. I thought that at that time period the young men joined around twenty years of age and were stuck in the military for a good many years. I don't think he was a landwer because he fought in Sch. Holstein/Denmark and Austria. I wonder how the others could become landwher and not be stuck in the service as long as William Meyer? I'd give a link to that really good site I had found with such good detail, but the battery drained last night before I finished reading. Now, I have to google it all over again. And I have Holiday work to be done. Thanks for the time,space, and attention. Happy Holidays jo Meyer _________________________________________________________________ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect
Date: 2007/12/11 17:46:33
From: axel <axel(a)familiekoning.nl>
Gutentag, Ich suche nach Jan Coningh (Koning oder Keuning) aus Aufurd in Brandenburg (geburtag ~1690.) Er ist geheirat mit Cornelia Jansse Schippers 17-2-1717 in Schiedam (Niederlande). Davon habe ich das kirchebuch gesehen. In meiner suche habe ich ein dorf Aufurth (kreis Diepholz) gefunden. War Hannover in ~1710 auch bei Brandenburg? Kennen sie jemand die Ahnenforschung nach die name Keuning, König, Koning, Coningh tut? Wo kan ich das Kirchenbucher aus Aufurth finden? Mit grusse aus Holland Axel
Date: 2007/12/11 18:10:47
From: Robert Niehaus <rniehaus12(a)comcast.net>
Does anyone know of a Czech to English on-line translator such as we have for German to English? Thank you for any help. Bob Niehaus My Broxterman and Boegeman ancestors from Glane,Osnabrueck and Brinker ancestors from Ost Kappeln.
Date: 2007/12/11 18:38:21
From: Manfred <Manfred.Puffahrt(a)t-online.de>
Guten Abend, folgendes gefunden: oo 1743 Nahrendorf Hans Dietrich Bauche, weil. Gust Jürgen Bauche gew. Hauswirt in Buendorf Sohn, ist dem 9 ten Februar mit Dorothea Seilen, Johann Wilhelm Seil Hauswirt u. Müller in Tangsehl nachgelassene Witwe, copoliert Joh. Wilhelm Seil * 1701/ +1741 Mit freundlichen Grüßen Manfred Puffahrt
Date: 2007/12/11 19:06:00
From: Karsten Fahrenkohl <ar0908874286(a)arcor.de>
Date: 2007/12/11 22:47:30
From: Wilfried Petersen <Wilfried.Petersen(a)t-online.de>
"Karsten Fahrenkohl" <ar0908874286(a)arcor.de> schrieb: > Hallo Herr Petersen! > Können sie für mich nachsehen ob unter dem Namen Vahrenkohl / Fahrenkohl > etwas zu finden ist? Ab 1743 haben sie mir vor geraumer Zeit etwas > zugesandt. Leider fehlen mir auch da noch einige Verbindungen und > Zusammenhänge. > Hallo Herr Fahrenkohl, im Register zu Band 1 (Von den Anfängen bis zum Jahre 1700) taucht die Schreibweise Fahrenkohl gar nicht, Vahrenkohl 2 x auf. Allerdings ist auf der einen angegebenen Seite (Hannover - St.Johannes) kein entsprechender Eintrag zu finden. Die andere Seite betrifft die Schloßkirche in Hannover. Merkwürdigerweise tauchen hier zahlreiche Einträge auf, die völlig identisch mit denen auf der St.Johannes-Seite sind. Eine Erklärung dafür kann ich Ihnen leider nicht geben. Hier nun der gefundene Eintrag: Hannover - Schloßkirche 31.08.1673 Vahrenkohl, Henning, ehem. Fstl. Lakai / Herbst, N., V: Erich, Botenmeister Freundl. Gruß, Wilfried Petersen
Date: 2007/12/12 00:21:51
From: Rena McCarthy <rena.mackenzie(a)virgin.net>
Rena in England ==
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: tesluk(a)rogers.com
Hello friends, I have a question to ask. During the timeline after the war how difficult would it be to travel from Hannover's Camp Lyssenko to England, I believe the location was Bournemouth. Would one not need proper travel documentation to leave the country and enter the other. How would I go about getting these documents? I have been searching for my father for years. Would Bournemouth be the place to go for work or were other displaced persons working elsewhere in England.
Date: 2007/12/12 00:54:55
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
Hello again, For those searching and researching, leave no stone unturned! It is your life and your destiny, and no one cfan take that away from you! It has taken many years for me to arrive where I have. I have gone as far as writing to hospitals, mental health institutions, cemetaries and even Letters to the Editor of many newspapers in Germany. I even enclosed a photograph of my father and I together with hopes that someone would recognize us. There was a fire ignited in me that continued to burn throughout the years. I had to know my roots, where my life started and the history of my parents and their parents. I encourage all to keep going and not to give up. This time 6 years ago I had no idea I had family in Paris, Poland and Ukraine. This was on my mother's side of the family. What a feeling of completeness when I met them all. Now that I have written my memoir on the search for my father and travelling to Hannover, Germany I still feel that I may have overlooked some clues. And no of the reasons why I decided to joing your group. Thank you for the encouragement and good wishes. If I can be of help to anyone, please do not hesitate to contact me. I know what it feels like to have a undefined heritage! Look closely.....it's out there. And yes, Jo, names have been mis-spelled and therefore throws the researcher off in another direction. For years I researched names that I thought belonged in the family....only to find I was on a wild goose chase. Regards, Alexandra Toronto ----- Original Message ---- From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net; gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:32:28 AM Subject: [HN] Aalesander Tesluk/ Records destroyed/Franco / Prussian WAR Alexander, Good luck with everything. [I should have taken this off board.] I think what will make everyone want to read the book is that mystery and the search. We feel your drive. And now we feel part of your search. Maybe for book two!! You have expressed your drive to find him so well. I and others know somewhat that feeling. I have it to find the unknown father of my Grandmother. I don't have pictures of him and I may never find anything. He is not a person to me yet. I have a name August and that he died from kidney infection by a certain date. However, that could have been made up for the insurance papers. If not, at least they knew enough to write that. ? But the drive to dig is there. Almost the same goes for her mothers sisters. I just had to know. Thanks to Hans Peter Albers I was able to find out about them. So I can close the chapter somewhat. In away, For me that much information seems to bring them to life. While I was browsing the Hitzacker and Dannenberg area by the east border, I realized the Nazi and Polish problem couldn't be ignored. [For one becasue the concentration camps were in near distance there and in Belsen Bergen]And not to be ignored because of the difficulties in research. I can not imagine all the obstacles, difficulties you probably have had to get this far. I hope others in the know can help you. I am hoping good will makes its way to you. I can imagine that the book and the attention will draw the right information or the right people to you. I hope more and more records do come to the light. I imagine you have a lot of tips of methods in your book. When I was researching my grandmothers mothers sisters, I misunderstood some names I was given. They turned out to be in Danzig. It was not the Gr grandmothers sisters or family of Himbergen, Uelzen. The mistake was also because the area mentioned was Silesia. Their names belonged to a person from near Danzig that immigrated from Eckersdorf. I have not attempted anything with what is now Poland. I know it will be difficult. I don't even know how to begin it yet. Probably to find the church. I am not sure, if I will like to know the horrors that they may have had to face like those of Czechoslovakia/Bohemia. There are family secrets too and many want them to stay that way. I will have to stress the Privacy issue. So that will make it more difficult to keep the secrets and still dig. And that will be yet another Mailing list I will need to join. I will keep my discussion of that family to another list. Though border areas do bring problems to those in Hannover kingdom. History is there and can't be ignored. Franco Prussian war In regards to my last post about the six week Franco Prussian War. I want to say there are some really good sites in great detail about the two sides of the war. So much on each battle. One article said that the citizens took up arms and I have been thinking that could be one way My Wilhelm could have been captured December 1870. I wanted to read about dysentery and typus [is that caused by fleas] and the hardships. In Paris because the city was circled and blocked the French were starving and eating their horses. It mentioned There was forest at the area around the block which the german soldiers had to pass. With the robbing, potshotting and other crimes going on. I lost my battery Power after I read they ate their last horse..... I am not sure about the climate of Metz and the other areas of France. William only had one pair of boots, one coat, Uniform, socks, and hat. One thing I noted is that Landwher [ could be spelled wrong] soldiers came to fight at the end. I shall have to go back a issue or two and see the meaning of that landwher. It said They had Wives and family and were older in their Forties or more. They were probably not good marksman or in combat physical shape. I don't agree with that opinion. Nor this one. That they would be more willing to surrender because of those who depended on them. The advantage though is that they were fresh to combat. I thought that at that time period the young men joined around twenty years of age and were stuck in the military for a good many years. I don't think he was a landwer because he fought in Sch. Holstein/Denmark and Austria. I wonder how the others could become landwher and not be stuck in the service as long as William Meyer? I'd give a link to that really good site I had found with such good detail, but the battery drained last night before I finished reading. Now, I have to google it all over again. And I have Holiday work to be done. Thanks for the time,space, and attention. Happy Holidays jo Meyer _________________________________________________________________ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/12 06:05:35
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>
This may work for me as well as a starting place. I read this morning an article that said the England Red Cross was at the Franco Prussian war sites. They carefully recorded the information about each person, birthplace, regiment numbers, then put them into registers. They recorded every change. ambulance to hospital or transfer.As a prisonor. About the death. About his relics and returned them to friends.His burial or destination. Then the copies of the records were sent to London. I believe I had been told this before. Now maybe I will have better luck and remember it as i continue to search later on again. Also,I should search the military archives. Thanks. Though not meant for me. Hope it helps some one else too. Has it worked for anyone else searching for his sick or wounded soldier in france in that war.? jo Meyer> > You haven't said whether you have tried the International Red Cross which > recorded refugee and displaced people's particulars. Below is the British > Red Cross website :-> > http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=235> > <<Tracing related to World War II> The affects of war can be long lasting. The British Red Cross is still > restoring family links broken during World War II and by the Cold War. >>> =====> > I'm sorry I couldn't find anything definite but hope the above links give > you another avenue to search.> Good luck.> > Rena in England> ==> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:38:36 -0800 (PST)> From: tesluk(a)rogers.com> > Hello friends,> I have a question to ask. During the timeline after the war how difficult> would it be to travel from Hannover's Camp Lyssenko to England, I believe> the location was Bournemouth. Would one not need proper travel> documentation to leave the country and enter the other. How would I go> about getting these documents? I have been searching for my father for> years. Would Bournemouth be the place to go for work or were other> displaced persons working elsewhere in England.> > Thank you....you have a great site here!> Alexandra> Toronto > > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > Ende Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 49, Eintrag 13> ******************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007
Date: 2007/12/12 08:04:21
From: tesluk <tesluk(a)rogers.com>
Definitely the Red Cross! They have helped me tremendously. They linked with the other Red Cross agencies throughout Europe and Canada and USA. Good luck! Alexandra ----- Original Message ---- From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com> To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:05:26 AM Subject: [HN] Does it work to search red cross london archives for injured soldier in Franco Prussian war? This may work for me as well as a starting place. I read this morning an article that said the England Red Cross was at the Franco Prussian war sites. They carefully recorded the information about each person, birthplace, regiment numbers, then put them into registers. They recorded every change. ambulance to hospital or transfer.As a prisonor. About the death. About his relics and returned them to friends.His burial or destination. Then the copies of the records were sent to London. I believe I had been told this before. Now maybe I will have better luck and remember it as i continue to search later on again. Also,I should search the military archives. Thanks. Though not meant for me. Hope it helps some one else too. Has it worked for anyone else searching for his sick or wounded soldier in france in that war.? jo Meyer> > You haven't said whether you have tried the International Red Cross which > recorded refugee and displaced people's particulars. Below is the British > Red Cross website :-> > http://www.redcross.org.uk/standard.asp?id=235> > <<Tracing related to World War II> The affects of war can be long lasting. The British Red Cross is still > restoring family links broken during World War II and by the Cold War. >>> =====> > I'm sorry I couldn't find anything definite but hope the above links give > you another avenue to search.> Good luck.> > Rena in England> ==> > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:38:36 -0800 (PST)> From: tesluk(a)rogers.com> > Hello friends,> I have a question to ask. During the timeline after the war how difficult> would it be to travel from Hannover's Camp Lyssenko to England, I believe> the location was Bournemouth. Would one not need proper travel> documentation to leave the country and enter the other. How would I go> about getting these documents? I have been searching for my father for> years. Would Bournemouth be the place to go for work or were other> displaced persons working elsewhere in England.> > Thank you....you have a great site here!> Alexandra> Toronto > > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Hannover-L mailing list> Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net> http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l> > > Ende Hannover-L Nachrichtensammlung, Band 49, Eintrag 13> ******************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 ______________________________________________ Hannover-L mailing list Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mailman/listinfo/hannover-l
Date: 2007/12/12 13:56:44
From: fleumer <hmt.rudolf(a)net.hcc.nl>
Hallo Herr Freytag, Sie besitzen Band 1 bis 1700 Calenberger Land, Koennen Sie Bitte nachschauen ob sich darin auch Familiennamen WLOME (R) (N) oder Wloemer/Vloemer/Floemer befinden ?? Bin gespannt.. Gruss aus Rotterdam Rudolf Fleumer
ich bin zwar nicht Herr Freytag, der ja das Register der 10 Lieferungen auch nicht hatte, sondern selbst suchte. Ich kann Ihnen aber Ihre Frage trotzdem beantworten. Es gibt dort 5 Einträge WLÖME, und zwar:
Eldagsen 17.04.1678 Wlöme, Stephanus, I.U.Licent., Landfiscal u. Contributionscommissar Weye, Maria, Wwe Joachim Spitzbarth, Pastor prim., Eldagsen
05.12.1682 Steiner, Joh. / Weyhe, Maria Elisab., Wwe N. Wlöme, Licentiat
Hajen 22.09.1678 Brunck, Christian, Hauptmann / Wlöme, Cath. Margr.
Freundliche Grüße, Wilfried Petersen
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Date: 2007/12/12 14:31:57
From: Wilfried Petersen <Wilfried.Petersen(a)t-online.de>
Hallo Herr Fleumer, gedruckt gibt es leider nur die Trauregister, keine Tauf- oder Sterberegister. Die Kirchenbücher der Landeskirche Hannovers liegen als Microfiches im Kirchenbuchamt Hannover www.kirche-hannover.de/kirchenbuchamt/ Freundliche Grüße, Wilfried Petersen "fleumer" <hmt.rudolf(a)net.hcc.nl> schrieb: > Hallo Herr Petersen, ich bins nochmal Rudolf aus Rotterdam. > Es faellt mir gerade ein, wenn es einen Trauregister gibt - gibt es > vielleicht auch einen Taufregister und/ oderSterbensregister ?? Dass wuerde > etwas sein ! > Bin gespannt nach Ihre