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Werner Honkomp
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HeideB
Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief
Betreff 2007/08/09 09:04:48
Peter Meister
Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? What is this?
2007/08/25 09:02:31
PD & LE Strong
Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief
Autor 2007/08/03 14:01:23
Peter Meister
[HN] Kirche Jesu Christi in Hannover

Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief

Date: 2007/08/26 15:12:35
From: PD & LE Strong <plstrong(a)pnc.com.au>

Dear Heidi,

I have just done a Google search and came up with 981 results, including:

(a) Meyers Konversationslexikon

http://susi.e-technik.uni-ulm.de:8080/Meyers2/seite/werk/meyers/band/2/seite/0476/meyers_b2_s0476.html


Meyers Konversationslexikon
Verlag des Bibliographischen Instituts, Leipzig und Wien, Vierte Auflage, 1885-1892
Band 2 von Atlantis bis Blatthornkäfer
Seite 476: Bauernlehen bis Bauges, Les


Schlagwörter: Bauernlehen; Bauernmiete; Bauernregeln; Bauernrhabarber; Bauernspiele; Bauernsprache; Bauernvereine; Bauernwetzel; Bauernzwang; Bauerwitz; Baufluchtlinie; Baugé; Baugefangene; Baugenossenschaften; Baugerüste; Bauges, Les.


(b) German Wikipedia Encyclopedia


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weikendorf

... have a look at the Geschichte paragraph.

I hope you can look through this and come up with the meaning.

Many thanks,

Phil



I just checked Wahrig (that's like Webster's) and the only word they had was
Bauernlegen.  If you found this word in literature, can you give me the
sentence?  Was this written in old script?  Heide
----- Original Message -----
From: "PD & LE Strong" <plstrong(a)pnc.com.au>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief


At 7:52 PM -0700 24/8/07, "HeideB" <heideb(a)uneedspeed.net> wrote:
Could Bauernlehen be Bauernleben? Heide


Thanks for this thought, but I checked this and found  the word
Bauernlehen in old German literature  ....but not in a dictionary.

Phil

In the recent discussion of the origin of the surname MEYER / MEIER...

On 9 Aug 2007 Uwe Weddige <Uwe.Weddige(a)web.de> wrote:

  >1492 wurde diese Eidesformel im Bereich des
  >Stiftes Verden umgewandelt in ein verbrieftes
  >Bauernlehen, den sogenannten Meierbrief.

She describes in a definitive answer how the
MEIER relationship with his feudal lord was
confirmed in a  Bauernlehen document... the
so-called Meier letter / document.

Uwe says (my understanding) that in earlier times
the MEIER relationship involved an oath to be
faithful and devoted to the feudal lord.
However, by 1492 the arrangement was documented
in the "Meierbrief". The Meier document spelled
out the Meier's obligations to his feudal lord,
which might be money, a number of days labour, or
goodsS perhaps including seeds, sheaves, manure,
a "meat tithe" or a tenth of the new-born foals,
calves, piglets, lambs as well as of chickens,
geese and bees, and so on.

Can anyone help with these questions:

(1)  What is the meaning / origin of the word
Bauernlehen?  It is not in any modern German
dictionary.  My guess it is a farm agreement, but
the ending "lehen" puzzles me?
Die Suche nach  Bauernlehen  lieferte keine Treffer

(2)  Was the Bauernlehen the arrangement and the
Meierbrief the necessary documentation?

(3)  What happened in 1492 to change the
relationship between the Meier and the feudal
lord from an oath to all this documentation?
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