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2007/08/25 09:02:31 PD & LE Strong Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief |
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Date: 2007/08/25 18:49:08
From: HeideB <heideb(a)uneedspeed.net>
I just checked Wahrig (that's like Webster's) and the only word they had was
Bauernlegen. If you found this word in literature, can you give me the
sentence? Was this written in old script? Heide
----- Original Message -----
From: "PD & LE Strong" <plstrong(a)pnc.com.au>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [HN] Vollmeier - Was ist das? Bauernlehen und Meierbrief
At 7:52 PM -0700 24/8/07, "HeideB" <heideb(a)uneedspeed.net> wrote:
>Could Bauernlehen be Bauernleben? Heide
Thanks for this thought, but I checked this and found the word
Bauernlehen in old German literature ....but not in a dictionary.
Phil
>In the recent discussion of the origin of the surname MEYER / MEIER...
>
>On 9 Aug 2007 Uwe Weddige <Uwe.Weddige(a)web.de> wrote:
>
> >1492 wurde diese Eidesformel im Bereich des
> >Stiftes Verden umgewandelt in ein verbrieftes
> >Bauernlehen, den sogenannten Meierbrief.
>
>She describes in a definitive answer how the
>MEIER relationship with his feudal lord was
>confirmed in a Bauernlehen document... the
>so-called Meier letter / document.
>
>Uwe says (my understanding) that in earlier times
>the MEIER relationship involved an oath to be
>faithful and devoted to the feudal lord.
>However, by 1492 the arrangement was documented
>in the "Meierbrief". The Meier document spelled
>out the Meier's obligations to his feudal lord,
>which might be money, a number of days labour, or
>goodsS perhaps including seeds, sheaves, manure,
>a "meat tithe" or a tenth of the new-born foals,
>calves, piglets, lambs as well as of chickens,
>geese and bees, and so on.
>
>Can anyone help with these questions:
>
>(1) What is the meaning / origin of the word
>Bauernlehen? It is not in any modern German
>dictionary. My guess it is a farm agreement, but
>the ending "lehen" puzzles me?
>Die Suche nach Bauernlehen lieferte keine Treffer
>
>(2) Was the Bauernlehen the arrangement and the
>Meierbrief the necessary documentation?
>
>(3) What happened in 1492 to change the
>relationship between the Meier and the feudal
>lord from an oath to all this documentation?
>--
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**Philip Strong***Email:plstrong(a)pnc.com.au***Blue Mountains,
Australia**
Interest: WEDEMEYER of Moringen, Goslar,
Hannover Germany.
Emigrant to Gayndah, Mt Perry, Drummers Creek, Yarrol, Walla,
Bundaberg Queensland, Australia.
http://www.strong-family.org/wedemeyer/
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