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Re: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat

Date: 2007/06/01 06:08:46
From: CATSAUTO <catsauto(a)earthlink.net>

In Hannover take a ride on the leaning elevator to the top of City Hall for
a grand view of Hannover. Be sure to visit old town to see the
Fachwerkhauser. Have lunch at the Nordsee Fisch-Spezialitäten  Karmarschstr.
24, 30159 Hannover or Bahnhofstr. 6, 30159 Hannover for great fish. Don't
miss Herrenhaeuser Gartens. If you have time visit old town Celle not far
from Hannover, The Vogelpark at Walsrode or the Windmill park at Gifhorn.
Bitte gruss Hannover fuer mich.
Jim Decker

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Subject: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat




Hello List (Deutsche Übersetzung unten)




I am planning a trip to Northern Germany in September and would like some
advice. My ancestors are from Schinkel/Osnabrueck and Hunteburg. This is
my first trip to Germany since I started to research my family’s history
in Germany. I am considering the following stops:



- Visit the Catholic Archdiocese in Osnabrueck where a copy of the
Hunteburg records are available

- Visit the Hunteburg Catholic Church

- Visit relatives in Hunteburg

- Visit with people who have helped me in my research

- Visit the Emigration Museum in Bremerhaven

- Visit the OSFA office



I will be meeting several people for the first time. Some are distant
relatives, others people who have helped me immensely in my research. Do
you have any suggestions as to what gift might be appreciated?



Obviously I am interested in things that are related to ancestor research
or history starting around 1700.



Any suggestions for a first time visitor to the Hannover area would be
greatly appreciated.



With friendly greetings,



Barney Speckman

From San Francisco

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Hallo Listees

Ich plane eine Reise nach Norddeutschland im September und möchte einige
Ratschläge.



Meine Vorfahren sind von Schinkel/Osnabrueck und von Hunteburg. Dieses ist
meine erste Reise nach Deutschland, da ich begann, meine
Familiengeschichte in Deutschland zu erforschen.

Ich betrachte die folgenden Anschläge:

- besichtigen Sie die katholische Erzdiözese in Osnabrueck, in der eine
Kopie der Hunteburg Aufzeichnungen vorhanden sind

- besichtigen Sie die Hunteburg katholische Kirche

- Besuch Verwandte in Hunteburg

- Besuch mit Leuten, die mir in meiner Forschung geholfen haben

- besichtigen Sie das Auswanderung-Museum in Bremerhaven

- besichtigen Sie das OSFA Büro





Ich werde einige Leute zum ersten Mal treffen. Einige entfernte Verwandte,
andere bevölkeren, wem mir unermeßlich in meiner Forschung geholfen haben.



Haben Sie irgendwelche Vorschläge hinsichtlich, welches Geschenks
geschätzt werden konnte?



Offensichtlich bin ich an den Sachen interessiert, die mit der Vorfahr
Forschung oder Geschichte zusammenhängen, die herum 1700 beginnen.



Alle mögliche Vorschläge für einen Besucher des ersten Males zum Hannover
Bereich würden groß geschätzt.



Mit freundlichen Grüßen



Barney Speckman

Aus San Francisco



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[HN] Fundsache. Wilhelm SCHUBERTt aus Celle und Kassel, Pierre CHEVILLOT, Arc-les-Gray, Erich WOTHKE, Photograph, Hermannsburg i.Han.

Date: 2007/06/01 19:45:39
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

Kleine F u n d s a c h e:

Liebe Listenleser,

es gab vor 1914 nicht nur Haß zwischen Deutschen und Franzosen, wie mir der Zufallsfund einer Ansichtskarte von meinem Geburtsort Wintermoor, bzw. des Weges von Wintermoor nach Wilsede vom Photographen Erich WOTHKE, Hermannsburg i.Han., aus dem Jahr 1911 dokumentiert. Absender der Karte ist Wilhelm SCHUBERT, der auf Französisch an seinen Freund: "Monsieur  Pierre CHEVILLOT, Dessinateur aux Chemins de Fer de L' Est, Rue de Dijon à Arc-les-Gray, France! Hte. Saone" schreibt. Der Absender dürfte zu diesem Zeitpunkt in einem Alter gewesen sein, in dem er sich auf das Abitur vorbereitet. Das als solches erkennbare aber gute Schulfranzösich läßt auf bereits etliche Jahre diesbezüglichen Unterrichts schließen.

Aus dem Text erfährt man weitere familiengeschichtliche Details: 

" Mon cher Pierre / Voila une carte du pays ou est / mon pére depuis le I.9.1911. C'est / très beau ici, et si tu as le / temps tu viendras chez nous  /à Celle. Au printemps et en / été il est merveilleux. Mes / vacances sont bientot finis et le / 15.Oct. je retournai à Kassel, je pren- / drai une rapide et dans 5 heurs je serai à K.,/ c' est triste. ma soeur et encore 2 amies / d'elle, nous avons fait beaucoup de promenades./
Bien de choses de mes parents et de moi a tes chers parents et à toi, ton fidèle ami p.t. Wilhelm.Schubert"

Poststempel Celle vom 10.10.11 auf 10 Pf rot Germania

Von Wilhelm SCHUBERT aus Celle und Kassel wissen wir nun, seine beiden Eltern leben  am 10.10.1911, sein Vater ist am 1.9.1911 von Kassel nach Celle gezogen, er hat eine Schwester, in einem Alter, in welchem diese mit Freundinnen Spaziergänge mit wohl eher gleichaltigen Brüdern unternimmt, er ist Schüler und in den Ferien in Celle, die Familie unterhält Beziehungen zu einer französischen Familie aus Arc-les-Gray. Aktuelle heutige Anischtskartentexte sind da in der Regel wohl weniger informativ.

Es lauern also, wie dieses Beispiel zeigt, noch allerhand ungehobene familiengeschichtliche Schätze in den unzähligen Postkartensammlungen dieser Welt. Die Auflagenhöhe, in welcher diese Informationen Verbreitung fanden ist zumeist wohl nur 1.

mit freundlichen Grüßen zum Wochenende

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

[HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/01 21:44:00
From: genea <genea(a)boger.nl>

Hello, 

I'm Mike Böger and I'm looking for any information about Böger's in the regio Lippe. Specialy 2 places Rodenberg (Deister-Hannover) and Osterode am Harz.

I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the church-books of Rodenberg & Osterode. I'm from Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the birth, mariage & death records from those city's.

My -old-father Johannes Böger was born in Rodenberg in the year 1778. He came to Holland and maried there Johanna Ponsen.
His father was Johann Conrad Böger. He was probably born in Osterode on 22-1-1739 and he maried (1763 or 1768) Sophie Charlotte Meyer. She came from Rodenberg. He died 1809 in Rodenberg. His father was named Conrad Böger and he was born probably also in Osterode. He was tailor (schneider) in Osterode.

I know that a lot of church records ar on microfische. Maybe in Detmold or Hannover.

If you know where I have to search please let me know.

Kindest regards,

Mike Böger
Castricum - Holland

Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/01 22:04:39
From: Wilfried Petersen <Wilfried.Petersen(a)t-online.de>

"genea" <genea(a)boger.nl> schrieb:
> Hello, 

> I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the church-books of Rodenberg & Osterode. I'm from Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the birth, mariage & death records from those city's.
> 

Hello Mike,

the churchbooks of Rodenberg and Osterode are as microfiches at the Kirchenbuchamt in Hannover:  www.kirche-hannover.de/kirchenbuchamt/

Regards,
Wilfried (Petersen)

Re: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat

Date: 2007/06/01 22:46:26
From: cliff jacobs <cliffjacobs(a)swbell.net>

In case you missed this, another birthplace of Speckmann's  in Northern Germany.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~nesaunde/query/temp/newqu.html

Cliff Jacobs, Cedar Hill, Texas


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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:23:51 PM
Subject: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat


Hello List (Deutsche Übersetzung unten)

 

I am planning a trip to Northern Germany in September and would like some advice. My ancestors are from Schinkel/Osnabrueck and Hunteburg. This is my first trip to Germany since I started to research my family’s history in Germany. I am considering the following stops:

 

- Visit the Catholic Archdiocese in Osnabrueck where a copy of the Hunteburg records are available   

- Visit the Hunteburg Catholic Church

- Visit relatives in Hunteburg

- Visit with people who have helped me in my research

- Visit the Emigration Museum in Bremerhaven

- Visit the OSFA office

 

I will be meeting several people for the first time. Some are distant relatives, others people who have helped me immensely in my research. Do you have any suggestions as to what gift might be appreciated?

 

Obviously I am interested in things that are related to ancestor research or history starting around 1700. 

 

Any suggestions for a first time visitor to the Hannover area would be greatly appreciated.

 

With friendly greetings,

 

Barney Speckman

From San Francisco

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Hallo Listees

Ich plane eine Reise nach Norddeutschland im September und möchte einige Ratschläge. 

 

Meine Vorfahren sind von Schinkel/Osnabrueck und von Hunteburg. Dieses ist meine erste Reise nach Deutschland, da ich begann, meine Familiengeschichte in Deutschland zu erforschen. 

Ich betrachte die folgenden Anschläge: 

- besichtigen Sie die katholische Erzdiözese in Osnabrueck, in der eine Kopie der Hunteburg Aufzeichnungen vorhanden sind 

- besichtigen Sie die Hunteburg katholische Kirche 

- Besuch Verwandte in Hunteburg 

- Besuch mit Leuten, die mir in meiner Forschung geholfen haben 

- besichtigen Sie das Auswanderung-Museum in Bremerhaven 

- besichtigen Sie das OSFA Büro 

 

 

Ich werde einige Leute zum ersten Mal treffen. Einige entfernte Verwandte, andere bevölkeren, wem mir unermeßlich in meiner Forschung geholfen haben. 

 

Haben Sie irgendwelche Vorschläge hinsichtlich, welches Geschenks geschätzt werden konnte? 

 

Offensichtlich bin ich an den Sachen interessiert, die mit der Vorfahr Forschung oder Geschichte zusammenhängen, die herum 1700 beginnen. 

 

Alle mögliche Vorschläge für einen Besucher des ersten Males zum Hannover Bereich würden groß geschätzt. 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

 

Barney Speckman

Aus San Francisco

 

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Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/02 01:22:45
From: K E <kenofnocal(a)yahoo.com>

Mr. Böger,

It's your lucky day my friend. I can't help you with
Rodenberg but I happen to have in my possession
contact information for a man in Osterode with access
to the church records. His name is Hans Arnold
Poehling and his address is AN DER Pfahlbreite 33
D-37520 Osterode am Harz. He'll charge you 30 euros
per lookup.

As far as accessing the records yourself my
understanding is that at least some (if not more than
some) churches charge for access in Germany now. I
know of three old Lutheran churches in Osterode: St.
Marien, St. Aegidien, and St. Jacobi. The archive in
Osterode does not have the parish records, but if
there is an archive in Rodenberg (contact the local
government if you can't find access to one online or
in the phone book) they may be able to point you in
the right direction.

Best regards,

Kenneth Hempel

--- genea <genea(a)boger.nl> wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I'm Mike Böger and I'm looking for any information
> about Böger's in the regio Lippe. Specialy 2 places
> Rodenberg (Deister-Hannover) and Osterode am Harz.
> 
> I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the
> church-books of Rodenberg & Osterode. I'm from
> Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the
> birth, mariage & death records from those city's.
> 
> My -old-father Johannes Böger was born in Rodenberg
> in the year 1778. He came to Holland and maried
> there Johanna Ponsen.
> His father was Johann Conrad Böger. He was probably
> born in Osterode on 22-1-1739 and he maried (1763 or
> 1768) Sophie Charlotte Meyer. She came from
> Rodenberg. He died 1809 in Rodenberg. His father was
> named Conrad Böger and he was born probably also in
> Osterode. He was tailor (schneider) in Osterode.
> 
> I know that a lot of church records ar on
> microfische. Maybe in Detmold or Hannover.
> 
> If you know where I have to search please let me
> know.
> 
> Kindest regards,
> 
> Mike Böger> Castricum - Holland
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Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/02 01:45:47
From: marian <marian.uri(a)home.nl>

Beste Mark,
Daar mijn nieuwsgierigheid gewekt was door de plaatsnaam Rodenberg heb ik even gegoogeld. (ik zoek zelf in die regio)
Via google heb ik een stamboom van de Bögers gevonden en daar las ik in een deel van de trouwakte dat Johannes Böger (getrouwd met Johanna Ponsen) in Rodenberg (deelstaat Hessen) geboren is.
Er is nog een Rodenberg en die plaats ligt inderdaad in Deister-Hannover.
Als het klopt dat je voorouders uit Rodenberg (Hessen) komen dan moet je in ieder geval niet in de regio Deister Hannover zoeken.


Rodenberg (Hessen) ligt dicht bij Hanau, misschien dat je daar via google een archief kunt vinden en mailen of de familienaam daar bekent is.

Hartelijke groet,
Marian Uri







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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Hello,


I'm Mike Böger and I'm looking for any information about Böger's in the regio Lippe. Specialy 2 places Rodenberg (Deister-Hannover) and Osterode am Harz.

I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the church-books of Rodenberg & Osterode. I'm from Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the birth, mariage & death records from those city's.

My -old-father Johannes Böger was born in Rodenberg in the year 1778. He came to Holland and maried there Johanna Ponsen.
His father was Johann Conrad Böger. He was probably born in Osterode on 22-1-1739 and he maried (1763 or 1768) Sophie Charlotte Meyer. She came from Rodenberg. He died 1809 in Rodenberg. His father was named Conrad Böger and he was born probably also in Osterode. He was tailor (schneider) in Osterode.


I know that a lot of church records ar on microfische. Maybe in Detmold or Hannover.

If you know where I have to search please let me know.

Kindest regards,

Mike Böger
Castricum - Holland
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Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/02 02:20:52
From: marian <marian.uri(a)home.nl>

Ik bedoelde uiteraad '"Mike' inplaats van Mark.

Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/02 05:21:25
From: marian <marian.uri(a)home.nl>

Hallo Mike,

Ik kom zojuist tot de ontdekking dat ik helemaal fout zit, ik heb namelijk twee plaatsen door elkaar gehaald: Rodenberg en Rodenbach. Het spijt me, neem me niet kwalijk.

Hartelijke groet,
Marian Uri


[HN] Linksammlung Schleswig-Holstein

Date: 2007/06/02 12:23:14
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer und Schleswig-Holstein Interessierte,

zu folgenden Untertiteln habe ich Links gesammelt, die durch Euch gern ergänzt werden können.

Viele Grüße

Klaus (Riecken)
www.Riecken-online.de


Schleswig-Holstein allgemein:
Topographie und Geschichte

Nicht nur für Schleswig-Holstein:
Nachschlagewerke, Erläuterungen, Begriffe

Berufe:

Schleswig-Holstein:
Landschaften, Landstriche, Kreise, Orte

Volkszählungen

 Kolonistenbewegung nach und von Schleswig-Holstein

Kirchenbücher und Standesämter in Schleswig-Holstein:

Karten, Ortssuche, Ortschroniken, Bildarchiv:

Genealogisches aus Schleswig-Holstein und weltweit:

SUCHE IN NORDSCHLESWIG (bzw. Gesamtstaat DK):

Archive und Bibliotheken:

Genealogische und Historische Gesellschaften, auch außerhalb des Landes, Heimatvereine:

Einwanderung NACH Schleswig- Holstein:

Auswanderung NICHT NUR AUS Schleswig-Holstein = Einwanderung in ein anderes Land

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[HN] meaning of "büttel"

Date: 2007/06/02 16:24:00
From: Carol M. Duff <duffc(a)redwing.net>

I noticed that Herr Albers is from Bienenbüttel. Some of my family is from ort Hankensbüttel. I am wondering if "büttel" has a special meaning. Thank you. Carol




RE: [HN] meaning of "büttel"

Date: 2007/06/02 18:58:25
From: Ron Bronemann <ron_bronemann(a)hotmail.com>


I am seeking the Kothenbeutel surname from Baumgarten, but I do not know which Baumgarten in Germany. Ron ______________________________________________________________

    From: "Carol M. Duff" <duffc(a)redwing.net>
    Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
    To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
    Subject: [HN] meaning of "büttel"
    Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:30:47 -0700
    >I noticed that Herr Albers is from Bienenbüttel. Some of my family
    is
    >from ort Hankensbüttel. I am wondering if "büttel" has a special
    >meaning. Thank you. Carol
    >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    >
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[HN] Herman Heinrich Strubbe

Date: 2007/06/02 19:41:00
From: RNTENNIS <RNTENNIS(a)aol.com>

I am looking for any information about Herman Heinrich Strubbe.  He  was born 
in Hannover, Germany -  November 18, 1822.  He came to  America around 1840 - 
1847.  I have been told he came with his  brothers.  His wife's name was 
Caroline Reissner, also born in  Germany.
 
If anyone can help I would really appreciate it.  
 
He owned a saw mill in America but was also a farmer at the  beginning.
He applied  for naturalization at U.S. District Court, Western PA at  
Pittsburg
STRUBBE, Herman Henry, native of Germany; owes allegiance to King  of 
Hanover; dated 11 Oct. 1848; filed 5 July 1852.
 
Thank you so much,
Jan Strubbe
_jstrubbe(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:jstrubbe(a)gmail.com)   or _rntennis(a)aol.com_ 
(mailto:rntennis(a)aol.com) 



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[HN] Ostende/Belgien Recherchemöglichkeit? Fam ilie VAN DER VELDE

Date: 2007/06/02 20:03:38
From: Klaus Riecken <klaus(a)riecken-online.de>

Liebe Listenleser,

ich bitte um Auskunft, wie ich in Ostende/Belgien recherchieren kann.

Folgender Sachverhalt ist mir bekannt:
36     Jacobb Joseph van der Velde, Gastwirt, zuvor Sprachlehr­er, + Hagenow 09.01.1842 als Gastwirt u. Pächter des  Schützenhauses in Hagenow,

oo 7.7.1813 in Wismar (Q 3) Maria Agnete Sophia Schmidt

Bürgeraufnahme zu Hagenow 15.10.1841, van de Velde, Jacob Joseph, Gastwirt, Pächter des Schützenhauses.

 

             Kinder:

             1813, geb. 22.10., get. 31.10.                 Virgina Catharina Friederica

             1818, geb. 01.01., get. 10.01                   .Maria Sophia Agnete

             1822, geb. 22.03.,                                    Ferdinand Julius, 

             1826, geb. 03.03., get. 10.03.                 Heinrich Ernst Johann

             1832                                                          Josephine Dorothea Charlotte

 

Zusammenhang unklar. 

Sterberegister Hagenow 1848, Nr. 57

Jean Joseph van de Velde, Uhrmacher Hagenow, geb. 1818. 30.06 in Ostende,

29 Jahre, 10 Mon u. 22 Tage, Blutsturz, Vater Todten Register 1842, 9. Jan., Mutter CopRegister 1844 Sept. 24

Q. 134: Bürgeraufnahme zu Hagenow 29.06.1844, van de Velde, Jean Joseph, Frei-Uhrmachermeister, 26 J., Vater weil. Schützenwirt van de Velde.

 

Sohn Jean Joseph van de Velde wurde in Ostende geboren.
Vater Jacobb Joseph van der Velde wurde 1818 zwei mal Vater, einmal in Hagenow zum anderen in Ostende.
Das interessiert mich sehr.
Außerdem vermute ich, dass der Vater auch aus Ostende stammt.

Wer kann Hilfestellung geben?

Vielen Dank im voraus.
Ein schönes Wochenende wünscht

Klaus (Riecken)
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[HN] (no subject)

Date: 2007/06/02 21:01:10
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>

I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.
JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

[HN] (no subject)

Date: 2007/06/02 21:16:56
From: jko <jko(a)neostrada.pl>

please colsed but cansel may e- mail.
and don't sending for me.
JO

[HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden

Date: 2007/06/02 21:29:00
From: Andrea Korbanka <akorbanka(a)hotmail.com>

Liebe Liste,
hat jemand Erfahrung in der Bestellung von Amerikanischen Urkunden?

An wen mit welchen Unterlagen ich mich wenden muss, weiß ich bereits. Aber: bezahlt werden kann in "American cash" - dies meint wohl US-Dollar-Banknoten oder
U.S. Money Order (per request). Was ist dies? Wo bekommt man es, was kostet es?


Gruß aus Schwaben,
Andrea (Korbanka)

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[HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:

Date: 2007/06/02 21:46:02
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

Hallo, Leute, 
die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe nur
Band 4-13).

Kann jemand unter Euch dem James helfen, nachsehen und hier
posten?

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ein Schritt vorwärts

Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
Universitätsstadt Göttingen
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-----Original Message-----
> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:01:06 +0200
> Subject: [HN] (no subject)
> From: "James Jeffries" 
> To: 

> I would like help in finding any information possible on
the surname
> of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of
William
> Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any
help would be
> appreciated..thank you.
> JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES
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[HN] Sorry, muss heißen BAND ZWEI! nicht 12

Date: 2007/06/02 22:10:50
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>




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Universitätsstadt Göttingen
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-----Original Message-----
> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:43:56 +0200
> Subject: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen
TOTTENHOFF:
> From: "Reinhard J. Freytag" 
> To: "Hannover-L" 

> Hallo, Leute, 
> die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
> Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe
nur
> Band 4-13).
> 
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Re: [HN] meaning of "büttel"

Date: 2007/06/02 23:44:21
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

"Carol M. Duff" <duffc(a)redwing.net> schrieb:
> I noticed that Herr Albers is from Bienenbüttel.  Some of my family is 
> from ort Hankensbüttel.  I am wondering if "büttel" has a special 
> meaning.  Thank you. Carol

Hi Carol,

the ending "-büttel" in place names goes back to an old German word stem as  "-bodal" , which means as much as "Siedlung" or translated settlememnt. As a word of its own, "Büttel" it has got also the meaning of "servant of low range". But that meaning has not been of any importance in the meaning of place names. The whole semantic developement is of course much more detailed.

Greetings

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

Re: [HN] Hannover

Date: 2007/06/03 01:31:46
From: jo meyer <gengeeheide(a)hotmail.com>


I received my book of OFB Himbergen. I was mostly looking for my Seil and Korn/Schmidt info. of Gross Thondorf and Dahlenburg. I was anticipating finding a tidbit or two about some residents of Oldendorf. Hans Peter Albers mentioned something about my Meyer. Sure enough there was the son of My 3 great grandfather and Maria Elisabeth Behrens of Neetzendorf. For a time they were in the Himbergen area.

  . Brother of juergen Friedrich Meyer who married  Catharina Margaretha
  Luhmann. In book.  I do have a Meyer born 03.10.1817.
  Nr.49/1817Dahlenburg kirchen..

This I am not sure of yet...

  Neetzendorf...Christoph Behrens  ..hauswirt...died 1768 neetzendorf md
  1732. daughter Elizabeth Maria Behrens.  [err.]born 1732. died
  16.10.1792..Gross Thondorf. lived there1768 Gross Thondorf[1214]

md. Johann Hinrich Ehlers born 1733 died 1780[1212] md.16.1.1768.

1- Ehlers Hans Christoph born 6.12.1768 gross thondorf died 19.3.1772

2-stillborn child1770

3-74.1772...Jrgn. Hch.Ehlers

4-Hans Jrgn Ehlers 1774-1809.[1203]

5-Jrgn Hinch. Ehlers3.4.1777

parents Ehlers of Gross THondorf.


Maria Elisabeth Behrens Meyer had god parent of Ehlers.


Bischof /Gross Thondorf

page 106,212, 238-3356

From Porth's book.......My Meyer info......

Johann Juergen Meyer lived in 1817 Neetzendorf. md before 1817.

Maria Elisabeth Behrens lived 1817 Neetzendorf.

sohn Hinrich Jrgn Meyer---born 1817...died 1846..[3420]

page 241

  Meyer, Hch. Jrgn. dienstknecht born 3.10.1817. Neetzendorf
  died23.11.1846 Weste buried 25.11.1846 Himbergen  [29JIM18T
  ---12410] lived 1842 Weste ....parents[3356] MEYERS SURE HAVE SHORT
  LIFE!  d. 9.10.1842 Himbergen[-12411]00 md Catharina Elisabeth Ratzman
  *born 1814 died unknown [2778]

kinder;--

  1--Jurgen Hch. MEYER *born 11.10.1842 Weste ~. 11.10.1842
  Himbergen[12412.].....  + died24.10.1842. buried...26.10.1842.
  Himbergen,13 t ----

  2---Catharina Elisabeth MEYER *born 23.2.1845....... Weste babtised
  23,2.1845.[ belongs above]12413.

Ratzman..page202.....

  Johann Hch Lietz, anbauer, dienstknecht *born...2.3.1822.
  Drogennottorf. tTey lived  wohnort 1853 ebd. 51 Weste[ 2768]  00 md
  1853 Romstedt prokl hi

  Ratzman [ooMeyer,Lietz],Catharina Elisabeth *born 6.1.1814
  Weste...9.1.1814 Himbergen babtised...[10054]

  ...kf....1828 ebd....[parents...4198. s.a.3420] daughter  Dorothea
  Elisabeth Lietz.  She lived Drogennottorf

RATZMAN SURNAMES that turned up...... Just brief ideas of family

Luddolfs, Schulz, Siegel,Burmester

  Burmester page  286... Boecke..place..,Stute  page73,Catharina Maria
  Stute 1827,verehelichte Guchel born 1780[gesche.] Drogennottorf
  wuhnort1827,Havekost, daughter Anna Cathaiuna Maria Burmester born
  1805[r] died 1836[4207] Burmester  spouse..., hauswirt died before
  1827 [Havekost], md. before 1805.

  Lietz daughter... Dorothea Elisabeth born 14.10.1818.....51 Weste
  babtised Himbergen..wohnort...Drogennottorf.

Siblings of vater...md, grote wohnort Zieritz....[Boecke]

Grote parents...Mueller -Bahnsen]...

  [[Hohenzethen.]....Kaiser..md[ Schulz, Grote] md Lange brother Grote
  [Boecke] at  [Gauel].

  Lange at[ Shlankau], Persiel, Winkelmann,Ritz,Schulz [, Lange
  Sauck,,Gause[ ], Dutsch,[Hagen] Meinke, Schenk..]Torwe[ ,Mennerich,,
  Meyer,Lau,Schlueter, Klinge,, Talg,Schulz.


If anything rings a bell for family. Let me know.


  Once again Hans Peter Albers has been a help for me. What a great
  list.

  Naturally I still have many more names and places to investigate.
  Perhaps more family members will show up as I go. The surnames  in
  church records may show themselves or make sense from  Ahndorf,Vindorf
  and Boitze. Dahlenburg, Sueschendorf, Leehstahl, Oldendorf,
  Nahrendorf, Duebekold, Bostelwierbeck, Lemgrabe, Walmsburg, Koestorf,
  Nieperfitz, Nudlitz, Horn. and others.

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Re: [HN] (no subject)

Date: 2007/06/03 02:52:20
From: bobbidoll <bobbidoll(a)myway.com>

 
Hi James,I almost deleted your e-mail.  You list no subject and there was no list tag [HN] to identify your e-mail as anything other than  Spam.  I'm sure that many people on the list deleted it without  opening it.May I suggest that you repost your request with the subject:  TOTTENHOFF -   Hannover Prussia/ Germany  ?Best wishes,Bobbi --- On Sat 06/02, James Jeffries wrote:From: James JeffriesTo: hannover-l(a)genealogy.netDate: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:01:06 -0500Subject: (no subject)I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES______________________________________________

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[HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 03:30:18
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>



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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: [HN] (no subject)


I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of
Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff
originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be
appreciated..thank you.
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[HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 03:32:28
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>

)I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) 
JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

[HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 03:33:44
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>

)I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) 
JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

[HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 03:35:49
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>

I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of Herman Tottenhoff, William,originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) 

JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

[HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 03:37:33
From: James Jeffries <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com>

I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of Herman Tottenhoff, William  originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) 

JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

[HN] FLEER surname

Date: 2007/06/03 04:44:37
From: Margaret Fleer <margfleer44(a)ozemail.com.au>

Hello, 

 

I am new to this list and would appreciate any help it can provide in
finding the line of Fleers that I am part of.

 

I live in Melbourne Australia.

 

Going backwards from me:     I have     my husband, Graeme Leonard Fleer,
born 1942

 

            His Father was Leonard George Fleer, 1909 - 1995, married to
Gladys Jean Cooper

            His Father was Ernest Charles (Carl) Fleer 1873 - 1953, Married
to Martha Povey in 1896

            His father was Carl Ernst August Fleer, 1832 - 1904, Married to
Emma Metzenthin                        

            His Father was Anton Heinrick Otto Fleer, I think born approx.
1787, married to Charlotte Schnadenmeyer

            His Father was Johan Heinrick Fleer, married I think to Anne
Louise Menke

 

I know there are a lot of Fleer's in and around Westphalen areas in the
years prior to say 1800s.    But I would really like to be able to go back
further with this research for my children, and their children.

 

I believe the family lived in Joellenbeck, Westfalen, Prussia. ...

 

Many thanks,

 

Margaret Fleer

Re: [HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 04:51:55
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Jay,
     Yours is a difficult search.  That Tottenhoff is not a common name!  I
had troubles also in finding my Gügelmeyers in Hannover. I would guess that
there are several spellings of that name - Tottenhoff.

    I found your reference in Lee Co. Iowa. I see that Wm. Tottenhoff
married Anna Holterhouse--I think the name would likely be spelled
Holterhaus in Germany. In the 1870 census of Lee Co. Iowa, there is a Lorenz
Holterhaus who could be Anna's father? There are other Holterhaus names in
1860, 1900, 1920 

  I find an Adelheid Totenhof, age 40 in the 1870 census St. Louis MO.
She was born in Prussia living with Louis (19) and Peter (10).
  
 In 1920 I find these Tottenhoffs
   Herman, age 57, born in Lee Co . Iowa, living in Fort Madison Iowa,
Parents born in Hannover. Wife Anna and 4 children
   Joseph, age 43, born in Iowa, Living in Spokane Wash. parents born in
Germany, Wife Nora and 3 children
    Marie Tottenhoff, born in Iowa, Living in Peoria Ill. age 39, parents
born in Germany
   Will Tottenhoff ,age 24 born in Iowa, living in Iowa Fort Madison, can't
read the rest.
 
In 1910 I find Marie, age 29, living in Milwaukee. (probably the same person
as listed above.

   Those are the only Tottenhoff I can find in the census records from
Heritage Quest Online. I've tried to find variations of the name, but do not
find any others. 

   Were your people Catholic or Lutheran?  There are many Holterhaus names
in the area of Emsland which is mainly Catholic.  This is an interesting
site to find where the various surnames are from:
  http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx
  I can't find any Tottenhoff names on that site.

  I saw some reference that Tottenhoff could be a variation of the name of
Otten.  There was a Wilhelm Otten arriving in the U.S. In 1858.  Could that
be your guy? Age 28, farmer.  When did your William immigrate?

Good luck-- I'll keep hunting,
Barbara


    





I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of
> Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of William Tottenhoff
> originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank
> you.JAMES D. (JAY)
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Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:

Date: 2007/06/03 05:27:11
From: Achim Kortum <Joachim.Kortum(a)t-online.de>

Moin, moin,
in der Kopfsteuer von 1689 Bd 2, Teil 2 kommt der Name Tottenhoff nicht vor und in Bd 12 auch nicht. Viele Grüße und weiterhin viel Erfolg wünscht
Achim 


Joachim Kortum
Rotenbeek 33
24211 Postfeld
Tel. 4342-83511
www.joachim-kortum.de

"Reinhard J. Freytag" <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de> schrieb:
> Hallo, Leute, 
> die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
> Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe nur
> Band 4-13).
> 
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> > Subject: [HN] (no subject)
> > From: "James Jeffries" 
> > To: 
> 
> > I would like help in finding any information possible on
> the surname
> > of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of
> William
> > Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any
> help would be
> > appreciated..thank you.
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[HN] Family Böger & Meyer omgebung Rodenberg & Osterode

Date: 2007/06/03 10:33:46
From: genea <genea(a)boger.nl>

Dear Hannover-L readers,

I'm looking for information about a few people in the regio of Hannover.
If you have any information or suggestions about them pleace contact me.

-- Johann Conrad Böger
* Born : 22-01-1739 in Osterode, Germany
oo Marriage : 19-02-1763 (or 1768) in Rodenberg (31552) with Sophie Charlotte Meyer * 22-1-1739 Grove (Rodenberg). Daughter of Cordt Heinrich Meyer.
? Death : 18-05-1809 in Rodenberg (31552)
Occupation : Sergeant in Hannover, Germany

I'm looking for his birth record (copy of document) where I can find his father. 
Till now I found 4 children of them.
* Georg Conrad * 1764 in Rodenberg
* Christian Ludewig * 1768 in Lüneburg
* Johann Carl * 1771 in Rodenberg
* Johannes * 1778 in Rodenberg

the next persons I'm looking for is his father and mother of Johann Conrad Böger.
I don't know a lot of him but this is wat I know about him.
His name is :

-- Conrad Böger
* Born : before 1719 in Osterode, Germany
oo Marriage : ???
? Death : ???
Occupation : tailor (schneider) in Osterode

I want to know everything about him. When he is born, who his parrents are and with who he married.
I know of three old Lutheran churches in Osterode: St. Marien, St. Aegidien, and St. Jacobi. 

Any information would be welcome.

With the kindest regards,

Michael A. Böger

Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/03 10:54:35
From: Björn Sassenberg <post(a)bjoern-sassenberg.de>

Hallo Marian,

wenn ich das Holländisch richtig verstanden habe, glaubst Du, dass die gesuchten Vorfahren von Mark nicht aus Rodenberg am Deister kommen, sondern aus Hessen. Zwischenzeitlich war Schaumburg aber mal geteilt. Auf der einen Seite gab es die Grafschaft Schaumburg, auf der anderen Seite einen HESSISCHEN TEIL. Ich war mir jetzt nicht so sicher, ob Rodenberg auch zu diesem hessischen Teil gehörte, aber ein Blick auf wikipedia.de bringt Klarheit, dass auch Rodenberg am Deister zwischenzeitlich zu Hessen gehörte!

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenberg

Insofern sollte Rodenberg am Deister der richtige Ort sein und Du brauchst im heutigen Hessen nicht weiter suchen!


Viele Grüße und viel Erfolg bei der weiteren Suche,


Björn


----- Original Message ----- From: "marian" <marian.uri(a)home.nl>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Beste Mark, Daar mijn nieuwsgierigheid gewekt was door de plaatsnaam Rodenberg heb ik even gegoogeld. (ik zoek zelf in die regio) Via google heb ik een stamboom van de Bögers gevonden en daar las ik in een deel van de trouwakte dat Johannes Böger (getrouwd met Johanna Ponsen) in Rodenberg (deelstaat Hessen) geboren is. Er is nog een Rodenberg en die plaats ligt inderdaad in Deister-Hannover. Als het klopt dat je voorouders uit Rodenberg (Hessen) komen dan moet je in ieder geval niet in de regio Deister Hannover zoeken.

Rodenberg (Hessen) ligt dicht bij Hanau, misschien dat je daar via google
een archief kunt vinden en mailen of de familienaam daar bekent is.

Hartelijke groet,
Marian Uri







----- Original Message ----- From: "genea" <genea(a)boger.nl>
To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Hello,


I'm Mike Böger and I'm looking for any information about Böger's in the
regio Lippe. Specialy 2 places Rodenberg (Deister-Hannover) and Osterode am
Harz.

I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the church-books of Rodenberg
& Osterode. I'm from Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the
birth, mariage & death records from those city's.

My -old-father Johannes Böger was born in Rodenberg in the year 1778. He
came to Holland and maried there Johanna Ponsen.
His father was Johann Conrad Böger. He was probably born in Osterode on
22-1-1739 and he maried (1763 or 1768) Sophie Charlotte Meyer. She came from
Rodenberg. He died 1809 in Rodenberg. His father was named Conrad Böger and
he was born probably also in Osterode. He was tailor (schneider) in
Osterode.

I know that a lot of church records ar on microfische. Maybe in Detmold or
Hannover.

If you know where I have to search please let me know.

Kindest regards,

Mike Böger
Castricum - Holland
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Re: [HN] TOTTENHOFF (misspelled as TITTENHOFF)

Date: 2007/06/03 11:18:31
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>

 
In einer eMail vom 03.06.2007 04:53:08 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt  
hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net:

I found  your reference in Lee Co. Iowa. I see that Wm. Tottenhoff
married Anna  Holterhouse--I think the name would likely be spelled
Holterhaus in  Germany. In the 1870 census of Lee Co. Iowa, there is a Lorenz
Holterhaus  who could be Anna's father? There are other Holterhaus names in
1860, 1900,  1920 



Hi Jay hi, Barbara
 
Looking for that William Tottenhoff and Anna in the 1880 census in Iowa Lee  
County i couldnt find them at ancestry.com. Who wonders ...... everybody knows 
 they are misspelled in the index, but then i was looking for William and 
Anna in  Iowa Lee and there is a William and a Anna TITTENHOFF he is born 1830 is 
that  the right one??? So they are misspelled thats not unususal i know that 
very  well.......
 
There is not much hope to find him in the 1900 census cause too old, so  
there is not much chance to see the year of emigration, what would help to find  
them in the shiplist.
 
My best Armin



   

Re: [HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden

Date: 2007/06/03 11:33:48
From: Rolf Schulenburg <rolf.schulenburg(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Andrea, hinsichtlich der Bezahlung solltest du deine Bank fragen.
Herzliche Grüße aus dem schönen Hamburg 
Rolf (Schulenburg)

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net
[mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von Andrea Korbanka
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Juni 2007 21:29
An: oldenburg-l(a)genealogy.net; hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden

Liebe Liste,
hat jemand Erfahrung in der Bestellung von Amerikanischen Urkunden?

An wen mit welchen Unterlagen ich mich wenden muss, weiß ich bereits. Aber: 
bezahlt werden kann in "American cash" - dies meint wohl US-Dollar-Banknoten

oder
U.S. Money Order (per request). Was ist dies? Wo bekommt man es, was kostet 
es?

Gruß aus Schwaben,
Andrea (Korbanka)

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Re: [HN] Tottenhoff in 1880

Date: 2007/06/03 12:19:04
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>

Ok thats what we have in the 1880 census:
 
    Household Members:     Name Age  _William  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=23514961)  50   _Anna  
Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32627461)  43   _Herman  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32627388)  12   _Dena  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32627361)  10 
  _Clara  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32627520)  8   _Stephen  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32273857)  6   _Joseph  
Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32627345)  4   _Lizzie  Tittenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=32273912)  2  

Perhaps it will be possible to find "William" or "Anna" in the 1900 census  
to see the year of immigration.
 
Armin



   

Re: [HN] Tottenhoff in 1920

Date: 2007/06/03 12:33:00
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>

 
In einer eMail vom 03.06.2007 04:53:08 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt  
hannover-l-request(a)genealogy.net:

In 1920  I find these Tottenhoffs
Herman, age 57, born in Lee Co .  Iowa, living in Fort Madison Iowa,
Parents born in Hannover. Wife Anna and  4 children
Joseph, age 43, born in Iowa, Living in Spokane  Wash. parents born in
Germany, Wife Nora and 3 children
Marie Tottenhoff, born in Iowa, Living in Peoria Ill. age 39, parents
born  in Germany
Will Tottenhoff ,age 24 born in Iowa, living in  Iowa Fort Madison, can't
read the rest.



Ok thats what Barbara found i saw this family in 1920:
    Household Members:     Name Age  _Herman  Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877067)  51   _Anna B  
Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877068)  49   _Tressea M  Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877069)  23   _Rose A  Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877070
)  21   _Clara G  Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877071)  13   _Ralph R  Tottenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&indiv=try&h=43877072)  8  
NO TOTTENHOFF in 1900 and 1910 census what is absolutely impossible all  kids 
are born in Iowa so they must be misspelled like these one as Sottenhoff in  
the index
 
Armin



   

Re: [HN] Tuttenhoff in 1910

Date: 2007/06/03 12:42:31
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>

The reason why there is not Tottenhoff family in 1910 is they are  
........... misspelled. This time as TULTENHOFF i couldnt find Herman from the  1920 
census, so i was picking out Clara their 13 year old daughter and i  was 
searching for a 3 year old girl in 1910 named Clara living in IOWA LEE,  and then i 
had her family, good if you have a lot of names, its easier to  find:
 
    Household Members:     Name Age  _Herman  Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=7438591)  41   _Anna  
Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535595)  39   _William  Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535596)  16   _Thresa  
Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535597)  14   _Rosa  Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535598)  12   _Marie  Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535599)  10  
 _Clara  Tultenhoff_ 
(http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&indiv=try&h=137535600)  3  
So the last hope to see the parents of Herman is the 1900 census were you  
can see the date of imigration.
 
Armin



   

Re: [HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden

Date: 2007/06/03 13:54:20
From: Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de <Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Andrea,

an Deiner Stelle würde ich mir Dollars bei einer Bank (als Bargeld)
holen (geht natürlich nur als ganze Dollar - keine Cents!) und diese in
Alufolie (der Tipp stammt von einem Amerikaner) verpackt per Post
schicken. 
So habe ich das auch einmal gemacht und  es hat gut geklappt!
Du kannst auch eine Banküberweisung machen, aber das steht von den
anfallenden Kosten in der Regel in keinem Verhältnis (bei den Kosten
geht es nicht nur um die Höhe des Betrages, sondern es gibt
min.-Gebühren! - Ich hab das früher als Auzubi "von Hand gemacht". Da
steckt schon einiges an Aufwand drin!)  

Liebe Grüße und viel Erfolg!
Bärbel

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> hat jemand Erfahrung in der Bestellung von Amerikanischen Urkunden? 
> An wen mit welchen Unterlagen ich mich wenden muss, weiß ich bereits.
> Aber: bezahlt werden kann in "American cash" - dies meint wohl
> US-Dollar-Banknoten 
> oder
> U.S. Money Order (per request). Was ist dies? Wo bekommt man es, was
> kostet es?



Re: [HN] tottenhoff surname

Date: 2007/06/03 14:24:48
From: 320097756779-0001 <320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de>

"James Jeffries" <jamjeffr(a)hotmail.com> schrieb:
> I would like help in finding any information possible on the surname of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of Herman Tottenhoff, William  originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any help would be appreciated..thank you.JAMES D. (JAY) 
> 
> JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES

Hello James D.Jeffries,

there seems to be no familyname "TOTTENHOFF" anymore in this spelling in Germany. People with the first part of your name "TOTTEN" can be found nowadays almost only in one region in North-Rhine-Westfalia around Mönchengladbach, Kredelf, Korschenbroich. More likely if your anchestors are documented as being from Hanover is a change in writing. You should be more successful taking the variations "TOTENHÖFER" and TODENHÖFER" into account to be the todays descendants of earlier "TOTTENHOFF"s. In 1998 my telephone directory knows of 10 TOTENHÖFER, most of them in my very near region in and around Bienenbüttel and 19 TODENHÖFER, of whom only one is from Hannover, precisely from Pattensen. The meaning of your name "TOTTENHOFF can be of double origin as meaning "farm of the TOTTENs" and also "place of the deads" in the sense of cemetary.
Another possibility is given in a writing and spelling change from "TOTTENHOFF" from or into "DODENHOFF", which might depend on regional differences in hard and week pronunciation of the name, but also in diferences between Low and High German speech. In Low German one would prefere to speak of the deads as the "DODEN". You will find about 140 "DODENHOF(F)" entries in 1998, lots of them in Lower Saxony.

Good luck to your researches

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz

Date: 2007/06/03 15:37:40
From: marian <marian.uri(a)home.nl>

Hallo Björn,

Du hasst es richtig verstanden. Und Du hast recht. Deine Holländisch ist besser denn meinen Deutsch :-)

Ich habe jedoch ein Fehler gemacht, denn ich verstand dass der Mike Rodenbach (bei Hanau) meinte. Inzwischen habe ich es Der Mike gemaild.
Jedenfals vielen Dank.


Herzlichen Grüssen aus
die Niederlände
Marian Uri




----- Original Message ----- From: "Björn Sassenberg" <post(a)bjoern-sassenberg.de>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Hallo Marian,


wenn ich das Holländisch richtig verstanden habe, glaubst Du, dass die gesuchten Vorfahren von Mark
nicht aus Rodenberg am Deister kommen, sondern aus Hessen. Zwischenzeitlich war Schaumburg aber mal
geteilt. Auf der einen Seite gab es die Grafschaft Schaumburg, auf der anderen Seite einen
HESSISCHEN TEIL. Ich war mir jetzt nicht so sicher, ob Rodenberg auch zu diesem hessischen Teil
gehörte, aber ein Blick auf wikipedia.de bringt Klarheit, dass auch Rodenberg am Deister
zwischenzeitlich zu Hessen gehörte!


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenberg

Insofern sollte Rodenberg am Deister der richtige Ort sein und Du brauchst im heutigen Hessen nicht
weiter suchen!



Viele Grüße und viel Erfolg bei der weiteren Suche,


Björn


----- Original Message ----- From: "marian" <marian.uri(a)home.nl>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Beste Mark, Daar mijn nieuwsgierigheid gewekt was door de plaatsnaam Rodenberg heb ik even gegoogeld. (ik zoek zelf in die regio) Via google heb ik een stamboom van de Bögers gevonden en daar las ik in een deel van de trouwakte dat Johannes Böger (getrouwd met Johanna Ponsen) in Rodenberg (deelstaat Hessen) geboren is. Er is nog een Rodenberg en die plaats ligt inderdaad in Deister-Hannover. Als het klopt dat je voorouders uit Rodenberg (Hessen) komen dan moet je in ieder geval niet in de regio Deister Hannover zoeken.

Rodenberg (Hessen) ligt dicht bij Hanau, misschien dat je daar via google
een archief kunt vinden en mailen of de familienaam daar bekent is.

Hartelijke groet,
Marian Uri







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To: <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: [HN] Churchbooks from Rodenberg and Osterode am Harz



Hello,


I'm Mike Böger and I'm looking for any information about Böger's in the
regio Lippe. Specialy 2 places Rodenberg (Deister-Hannover) and Osterode am
Harz.

I want to ask if somebody knows how I can find the church-books of Rodenberg
& Osterode. I'm from Holland and I want to visit Germany to search the
birth, mariage & death records from those city's.

My -old-father Johannes Böger was born in Rodenberg in the year 1778. He
came to Holland and maried there Johanna Ponsen.
His father was Johann Conrad Böger. He was probably born in Osterode on
22-1-1739 and he maried (1763 or 1768) Sophie Charlotte Meyer. She came from
Rodenberg. He died 1809 in Rodenberg. His father was named Conrad Böger and
he was born probably also in Osterode. He was tailor (schneider) in
Osterode.

I know that a lot of church records ar on microfische. Maybe in Detmold or
Hannover.

If you know where I have to search please let me know.

Kindest regards,

Mike Böger
Castricum - Holland
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Re: [HN] Family Böger & Meyer omgebung Rodenberg & Osterode

Date: 2007/06/03 15:42:19
From: Wilfried Petersen <Wilfried.Petersen(a)t-online.de>

"genea" <genea(a)boger.nl> schrieb:
> Dear Hannover-L readers,
> 
> I'm looking for information about a few people in the regio of Hannover.
> If you have any information or suggestions about them pleace contact me.
> 
> I want to know everything about him. When he is born, who his parrents are and with who he married.


Hello Michael,

try to write at Kirchenbuchamt Hannover. There are all church-records of the lutheran church of the former kingdom and so on of Hannover. There you can get copys of the birth-, marriage- and dead-records.

See:   www.kirche-hannover.de/kirchenbuchamt/

Regards,
Wilfried (Petersen)

[HN] Franco-Prussian War Service Records

Date: 2007/06/03 15:53:21
From: Brad Hernlem <hernlem(a)gmail.com>

Dear Listmembers,

Are there any source of records or resources available to confirm whether or not a person served in the military during the Franco-Prussian War?

I have an ancestor who, it is claimed, served in the Franco-Prussian War and then emigrated afterward, in about 1872. Indeed, I have been unable to find him in the 1870 US census while I do find him in the 1875 MN state census. However, his 1900 US census listing states that he emigrated in 1868 (before the war) AND there is an alleged record of a person by his name (Peter Voth), originating from the same village (Hedendorf) and of the same approximate age (23 v. actual age of 25; possible misread) leaving the port of Hamburg in 1868 (see: http://www.genealogy-sh.com/voss.htm ) and a corresponding listing on the ship's manifest of the Steamer Allemannia arriving to the port of New York 7 May 1868.

I imagine that it is possible that he came in 1868 and then returned to Germany to serve in the war. But this would seem unusual (to me, anyway). Also, I do not find other Voth families in the Neukloster church records (covering Hedendorf) when Peter was a child. I DO know that my ancestor was the Peter born in Hedendorf to Christoph Voth, Schuster in Hedendorf. Christoph emigrated later to MN, too.

Are there military records, muster rolls, &c. from the Franco-Prussian war that might solve this mystery?

Best Regards,

Brad


Re: [HN] FLEER surname

Date: 2007/06/03 19:12:35
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Margaret,
   
    I would guess that you have seen the Fleers on the LDS website:

 http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

    If you are near a LDS center, you can order the church records on
microfilm:

    Germany, Preußen, Westfalen, Jöllenbeck (Oberjöllenbeck) - Church
records
 Kirchenbuch, 1676-1944  Evangelische Kirche Jöllenbeck (Oberjöllenbeck)
Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1815-1871  Evangelische Kirche Jöllenbeck
(Oberjöllenbeck)

   You find that by going to the Family History Catalog on that opening
page. 

  However, for some reason, the films are not available to a number of
countries in Europe (unless you are a LDS member).  It doesn't say anything
about Australia. The list of LDS centers in Australia are available on the
LDS site.

You might look here for the Fleer name:

http://meta.genealogy.net/ (sometimes there are email addresses you can
contact)

http://www.gencircles.com/

http://geneanet.org/

You may have researched all those sites already.

Barbara







 Hello, 
> 
>  
> 
> I am new to this list and would appreciate any help it can provide in
> finding the line of Fleers that I am part of.
> 
>  
> 
> I live in Melbourne Australia.
> 
>  
> 
> Going backwards from me:     I have     my husband, Graeme Leonard Fleer,
> born 1942
> 
>  
> 
>             His Father was Leonard George Fleer, 1909 - 1995, married to
> Gladys Jean Cooper
> 
>             His Father was Ernest Charles (Carl) Fleer 1873 - 1953, Married
> to Martha Povey in 1896
> 
>             His father was Carl Ernst August Fleer, 1832 - 1904, Married to
> Emma Metzenthin  
> 
>             His Father was Anton Heinrick Otto Fleer, I think born approx.
> 1787, married to Charlotte Schnadenmeyer
> 
>             His Father was Johan Heinrick Fleer, married I think to Anne
> Louise Menke
> 
>  
> 
> I know there are a lot of Fleer's in and around Westphalen areas in the
> years prior to say 1800s.    But I would really like to be able to go back
> further with this research for my children, and their children.
> 
>  
> 
> I believe the family lived in Joellenbeck, Westfalen, Prussia. ...
> 
>  
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Margaret Fleer
> 
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Re: [HN] FLEER surname

Date: 2007/06/03 20:12:58
From: Wolf Lotte <wolflotte(a)hotmail.com>


Hi Margaret


Go to [1]http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Enter "Fleer" in "find a database by surname"

Press "go"

  Download file "hungerce-2", titled "Joellenbeck & Beyond", second
  entry on new screen.

This file contains 144 persons with surname "Fleer" from Joellenbeck

Regards

Wolf

______________________________________________________________

    From:  "Margaret Fleer" <margfleer44(a)ozemail.com.au>
    Reply-To:  Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
    To:  <Hannover-L(a)genealogy.net>
    Subject:  [HN] FLEER surname
    Date:  Sun, 3 Jun 2007 12:44:31 +1000
    >Hello,
    >
    >
    >
    >I am new to this list and would appreciate any help it can provide
    in
    >finding the line of Fleers that I am part of.
    >
    >
    >
    >I live in Melbourne Australia.
    >
    >
    >
    >Going backwards from me:     I have     my husband, Graeme Leonard
    Fleer,
    >born 1942
    >
    >
    >
    >             His Father was Leonard George Fleer, 1909 - 1995,
    married to
    >Gladys Jean Cooper
    >
    >             His Father was Ernest Charles (Carl) Fleer 1873 -
    1953, Married
    >to Martha Povey in 1896
    >
    >             His father was Carl Ernst August Fleer, 1832 - 1904,
    Married to
    >Emma Metzenthin
    >
    >             His Father was Anton Heinrick Otto Fleer, I think
    born approx.
    >1787, married to Charlotte Schnadenmeyer
    >
    >             His Father was Johan Heinrick Fleer, married I think
    to Anne
    >Louise Menke
    >
    >
    >
    >I know there are a lot of Fleer's in and around Westphalen areas
    in the
    >years prior to say 1800s.    But I would really like to be able to
    go back
    >further with this research for my children, and their children.
    >
    >
    >
    >I believe the family lived in Joellenbeck, Westfalen, Prussia. ...
    >
    >
    >
    >Many thanks,
    >
    >
    >
    >Margaret Fleer
    >
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[HN] Obrock Col. Mönk

Date: 2007/06/03 20:26:03
From: ger-sieneke <ger-sieneke(a)home.nl>

Hallo,
Ich suche informationen über der familie Kaspar Heinrich Mönck der rund 1800 in Holland gekommen ist(Zuidbroek)
Sein vater war Clamor Ludwig Obrock Col. Mönk und ist am 11 april 1800 gestorben in Hüsade(kirchspiels Essen) und dort begraben er war 47 jahre alt.
Seine frau war Maria Elisabeth Jacobien? Reiners und ist 4 juni 1806 dort gestorben und begraben.
Wer had oder kan für mich mehr über dieser Familie finden, oder wo kan ich information finden.
Herzlichen dank, Grüsse Sieneke Pepping

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Re: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat

Date: 2007/06/03 20:33:44
From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>

>>
>> - Visit the Emigration Museum in Bremerhaven
>>
You should also visit the beautiful town Bremen with the old "Rathaus" (with vine cellar Restaurant), the famous "Roland" statue on the market place and the "Schlachte" on the Weser river. This was the first stop to go by small sailboats to Bremerhaven - the emigration port.

You should order an english speaking guide. See also:  www.bremen.de

Werner Honkomp


Re: [HN] Herman Heinrich Strubbe

Date: 2007/06/03 20:49:07
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hello Jan,

Have you seen this?
   http://www.rootsquest.com/~indiana/hancock/1916/hawkdf.html

Barbara





 I am looking for any information about Herman Heinrich Strubbe.  He  was
born 
> in Hannover, Germany -  November 18, 1822.  He came to  America around 1840 -
> 1847.  I have been told he came with his  brothers.  His wife's name was
> Caroline Reissner, also born in  Germany.
>  
> If anyone can help I would really appreciate it.
>  
> He owned a saw mill in America but was also a farmer at the  beginning.
> He applied  for naturalization at U.S. District Court, Western PA at
> Pittsburg
> STRUBBE, Herman Henry, native of Germany; owes allegiance to King  of
> Hanover; dated 11 Oct. 1848; filed 5 July 1852.
>  
> Thank you so much,
> Jan Strubbe
> _jstrubbe(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:jstrubbe(a)gmail.com)   or _rntennis(a)aol.com_
> (mailto:rntennis(a)aol.com)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat

Date: 2007/06/04 00:39:57
From: bmspeckman <bmspeckman(a)aol.com>

All,



Thanks to all that responded to my email regarding travel advice. You gave me many important tips and information. It is greatly appreciated and will help improve my trip planning.

Dank alles, das auf mein email betreffend ist Reiserat reagierte. Sie gaben mir viele wichtige Tips und Informationen. Es wird groß geschätzt und wird helfen, meine Reiseplanung zu verbessern.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Barney Speckman
aus San Fraoncisco


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From: Werner Honkomp <werner(a)honkomp.de>
To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 11:33 am
Subject: Re: [HN] German Travel Advice / Deutscher Spielraum-Rat




>>
> - Visit the Emigration Museum in Bremerhaven
>
ou should also visit the beautiful town Bremen with the old "Rathaus" (with 
ine cellar Restaurant), the famous "Roland" statue on the market place and the 
Schlachte" on the Weser river. This was the first stop to go by small sailboats 
o Bremerhaven - the emigration port.
You should order an english speaking guide. See also:  www.bremen.de
Werner Honkomp

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Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:

Date: 2007/06/04 00:51:45
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

hallo,
Hier gibt es nur einen Harmen Todtenhoff ( 30 Jahre alt ), Tischler , verh. mit Margareta Gertrud Voß, ein Kind im Alter von 1-3 jahren.
Kann das helfen ?
Liebe Grüße sendet Petra
----- original Nachricht --------

Betreff: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:
Gesendet: Sa 02 Jun 2007 21:47:10 CEST
Von: "Reinhard J. Freytag"<Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

> Hallo, Leute, 
> die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
> Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe nur
> Band 4-13).
> 
> Kann jemand unter Euch dem James helfen, nachsehen und hier
> posten?
> 
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> ein Schritt vorwärts
> 
> Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
> Universitätsstadt Göttingen
> Reinhard J. Freytag
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:01:06 +0200
> > Subject: [HN] (no subject)
> > From: "James Jeffries" 
> > To: 
> 
> > I would like help in finding any information possible on
> the surname
> > of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of
> William
> > Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany. Any
> help would be
> > appreciated..thank you.
> > JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES
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Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:

Date: 2007/06/04 01:12:13
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

...wenn Du mir noch den ort verrätst??




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-----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:51:37 +0200
> Subject: Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen
TOTTENHOFF:
> From: p.kuske(a)freenet.de
> To: "Hannover-L" 

> hallo,
> Hier gibt es nur einen Harmen Todtenhoff ( 30 Jahre alt ),
Tischler ,
> verh. mit Margareta Gertrud Voß, ein Kind im Alter von 1-3
jahren.
> Kann das helfen ?
> Liebe Grüße sendet Petra
> ----- original Nachricht --------
> 
> Betreff: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen
TOTTENHOFF:
> Gesendet: Sa 02 Jun 2007 21:47:10 CEST
> Von: "Reinhard J. Freytag"
> 
> 
> > Hallo, Leute,
> > die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
> > Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe
nur
> > Band 4-13).
> > 
> > Kann jemand unter Euch dem James helfen, nachsehen und
hier
> > posten?
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________
> > In der Genealogie ist ein Schritt rückwärts
> > ein Schritt vorwärts
> > 
> > Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
> > Universitätsstadt Göttingen
> > Reinhard J. Freytag
> > genealogie(a)freytag-immo.de
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:01:06 +0200
> > > Subject: [HN] (no subject)
> > > From: "James Jeffries"
> > > To:
> > 
> > > I would like help in finding any information possible
on
> > the surname
> > > of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of
> > William
> > > Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany.
Any
> > help would be
> > > appreciated..thank you.
> > > JAMES D. (JAY) JEFFRIES
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Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:

Date: 2007/06/04 01:26:35
From: p . kuske <p.kuske(a)freenet.de>

Verraten ?
 Sind wir hier bei Günther Jauch ...?...Lach
Das ganze findet sich  in der Kopfsteuerbeschreibung der Fürstenthümer Calenberg-Göttingen und Grubenhagen von 1689 , Teil Zwei 
Die Alt und Neustadt Hannover sowie die Fürstliche Kanzlei !  Seite 23
Das ist die Altstadt , genauer gesagt die Osterstraße , oder Osterstraßen Quartier 189 !!
Habe ich jetzt eine dreitürige Waschmaschiene gewonnen ??
Liebe Grüße sendet petra
----- original Nachricht --------

Betreff: Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen TOTTENHOFF:
Gesendet: Mo 04 Jun 2007 01:14:16 CEST
Von: "Reinhard J. Freytag"<Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

> 
> ...wenn Du mir noch den ort verrätst??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> ein Schritt vorwärts
> 
> Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:51:37 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen
> TOTTENHOFF:
> > From: p.kuske(a)freenet.de
> > To: "Hannover-L" 
> 
> > hallo,
> > Hier gibt es nur einen Harmen Todtenhoff ( 30 Jahre alt ),
> Tischler ,
> > verh. mit Margareta Gertrud Voß, ein Kind im Alter von 1-3
> jahren.
> > Kann das helfen ?
> > Liebe Grüße sendet Petra
> > ----- original Nachricht --------
> > 
> > Betreff: [HN] Wer hat Band 12 Kopfsteuer 1689? wegen
> TOTTENHOFF:
> > Gesendet: Sa 02 Jun 2007 21:47:10 CEST
> > Von: "Reinhard J. Freytag"
> > 
> > 
> > > Hallo, Leute,
> > > die Anfrage von James ist selbstredend.
> > > Nach dem Register kommt der Name in Band 2 vor (Ich habe
> nur
> > > Band 4-13).
> > > 
> > > Kann jemand unter Euch dem James helfen, nachsehen und
> hier
> > > posten?
> > > 
> > > ___________________________________________________
> > > In der Genealogie ist ein Schritt rückwärts
> > > ein Schritt vorwärts
> > > 
> > > Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
> > > Universitätsstadt Göttingen
> > > Reinhard J. Freytag
> > > genealogie(a)freytag-immo.de
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:01:06 +0200
> > > > Subject: [HN] (no subject)
> > > > From: "James Jeffries"
> > > > To:
> > > 
> > > > I would like help in finding any information possible
> on
> > > the surname
> > > > of Tottenhoff. The us census of 1880 says parents of
> > > William
> > > > Tottenhoff originated in Hannover Prussia/ Germany.
> Any
> > > help would be
> > > > appreciated..thank you.
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[HN] Buch "Chronik Stapel" (Ksp. Sottrum) neu herausgekommen

Date: 2007/06/04 08:39:00
From: guenter . bassen <guenter.bassen(a)arcor.de>

Liebe Listenteilnehmer,

gerade ist eine Chronik von Stapel im Ksp. Sottrum anläßlich der 777-Jahr-Feier erschienen.

In der Rotenburger Rundschau ist ein entsprechender Artikel nachzulesen unter:
 http://www.rotenburger-rundschau.de/index.php?menu=13000&searchVar=full&searchValue=Stapel&page=1&dataid=53551

Leider ist dort eine falsche Kontakt-Email-Adresse angegeben. Hier die Richtige: buch(a)777-Stapel.de

Zusätzlich habe ich noch folgende Informationen bekommen:

Hier eine grobe Zusammenfassung:
- Kleine Chronik
- ausgedehnter, reich bebilderter Rundgang durch Landschaft und Dorf, seine Wirtschafts-, Bau-, Sozialgeschichte und -gegenwart
- Nachrichten von allerhand Vorkommnissen in Flur und Dorf
- Vorstellung der Vereine
- Porträts der Betriebe und Selbständigen
- Statistik des Ortes

Wer Interesse hat, möchte sich bitte direkt an Petra Adam unter buch(a)777-Stapel.de wenden.


Viele Grüße    Günter

Günter Bassen
Westend 6
27419 Klein Meckelsen

Suche in Deutschland:  Bassen, Jagels
Suche in Lerbach (Osterode a. H.):  Oppermann
OFB Rotenburg online: http://www.online-ofb.de/rotenburg/

Klein Meckelsen: 2001 Bundessieger "Unser Dorf soll schöner werden"
http://www.klein-meckelsen.de/


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Re: [HN] Fundsache. Wilhelm SCHUBERTt aus Celle und Kassel -> Zusammenhang?

Date: 2007/06/04 11:36:16
From: Walter, Stephan <s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de>

 Hallo Herr Albers,

Vielleicht gibt es hier (Ausschnitt aus meiner AL) einen Zusammenhang:

 Ahnenliste Sophie Schubert

1. Schubert, Sophie Emilie Marie, * Göttingen 03.10.1866, + Kirchhain 26.
  01.1905
  oo Kassel 18.11.1893 Heinrich Schmidt

  1. Ahnenreihe

2. Schubert, August Friedrich Konrad, Lokomotivführer, * Stemmen Hannover
  21.07.1838, + Kassel 04.05.1913
  oo Göttingen  Emilie Ringleb
3. Ringleb, Emilie, * Wahlhausen Hannover 22.12.1838, + Kassel 06.01.1892
  oo Göttingen  August Schubert

  2. Ahnenreihe

4. Schubert, Heinrich
  aus Stemmen Kreis Linden Hannover
  oo  25.09.1828 Dorothea Schlette
5. Schlette, Dorothea, * Lathwehren 18.05.1801, + Stemmen Hannover 09.04.
  1877
  oo  25.09.1828 Heinrich Schubert

Leider konnte ich das noch nicht weiter erforschen....

Gruß,

Dr. Stephan Walter
Arzt für Innere Medizin / Nephrologie
Hypertensiologe DHL
Chefarzt der Nephrologischen Abteilung am
St. Vincenz Krankenhaus Limburg
St. Vincenz Krankenhausgesellschaft mbH
Auf dem Schafsberg
D-65549 Limburg
Fon +49-6431-292-4361, -0
Fax +49-6431-292-4363
s.walter(a)st-vincenz.de
 
 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net [mailto:hannover-l-bounces(a)genealogy.net] Im Auftrag von 320097756779-0001(a)t-online.de
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Juni 2007 18:31
An: nlf(a)genealogy.net
Cc: gengeshh(a)genenealogy.net; hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Betreff: [HN] Fundsache. Wilhelm SCHUBERTt aus Celle und Kassel,Pierre CHEVILLOT, Arc-les-Gray, Erich WOTHKE, Photograph,Hermannsburg i.Han.

Kleine F u n d s a c h e:

Liebe Listenleser,

es gab vor 1914 nicht nur Haß zwischen Deutschen und Franzosen, wie mir der Zufallsfund einer Ansichtskarte von meinem Geburtsort Wintermoor, bzw. des Weges von Wintermoor nach Wilsede vom Photographen Erich WOTHKE, Hermannsburg i.Han., aus dem Jahr 1911 dokumentiert. Absender der Karte ist Wilhelm SCHUBERT, der auf Französisch an seinen Freund: "Monsieur  Pierre CHEVILLOT, Dessinateur aux Chemins de Fer de L' Est, Rue de Dijon à Arc-les-Gray, France! Hte. Saone" schreibt. Der Absender dürfte zu diesem Zeitpunkt in einem Alter gewesen sein, in dem er sich auf das Abitur vorbereitet. Das als solches erkennbare aber gute Schulfranzösich läßt auf bereits etliche Jahre diesbezüglichen Unterrichts schließen.

Aus dem Text erfährt man weitere familiengeschichtliche Details: 

" Mon cher Pierre / Voila une carte du pays ou est / mon pére depuis le I.9.1911. C'est / très beau ici, et si tu as le / temps tu viendras chez nous  /à Celle. Au printemps et en / été il est merveilleux. Mes / vacances sont bientot finis et le / 15.Oct. je retournai à Kassel, je pren- / drai une rapide et dans 5 heurs je serai à K.,/ c' est triste. ma soeur et encore 2 amies / d'elle, nous avons fait beaucoup de promenades./ Bien de choses de mes parents et de moi a tes chers parents et à toi, ton fidèle ami p.t. Wilhelm.Schubert"

Poststempel Celle vom 10.10.11 auf 10 Pf rot Germania

Von Wilhelm SCHUBERT aus Celle und Kassel wissen wir nun, seine beiden Eltern leben  am 10.10.1911, sein Vater ist am 1.9.1911 von Kassel nach Celle gezogen, er hat eine Schwester, in einem Alter, in welchem diese mit Freundinnen Spaziergänge mit wohl eher gleichaltigen Brüdern unternimmt, er ist Schüler und in den Ferien in Celle, die Familie unterhält Beziehungen zu einer französischen Familie aus Arc-les-Gray. Aktuelle heutige Anischtskartentexte sind da in der Regel wohl weniger informativ.

Es lauern also, wie dieses Beispiel zeigt, noch allerhand ungehobene familiengeschichtliche Schätze in den unzähligen Postkartensammlungen dieser Welt. Die Auflagenhöhe, in welcher diese Informationen Verbreitung fanden ist zumeist wohl nur 1.

mit freundlichen Grüßen zum Wochenende

Hans Peter Albers, Bienenbüttel

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Re: [HN] Herman Heinrich Strubbe

Date: 2007/06/04 13:50:10
From: Jan Strubbe <jstrubbe(a)gmail.com>

Thank you. I had seen it but in a different format. Thanks again.

On 6/3/07, R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net> wrote:

Hello Jan,


Have you seen this?
  http://www.rootsquest.com/~indiana/hancock/1916/hawkdf.html

Barbara





I am looking for any information about Herman Heinrich Strubbe.  He  was
born
> in Hannover, Germany -  November 18, 1822.  He came to  America around
1840 -
> 1847.  I have been told he came with his  brothers.  His wife's name was
> Caroline Reissner, also born in  Germany.
>
> If anyone can help I would really appreciate it.
>
> He owned a saw mill in America but was also a farmer at the  beginning.
> He applied  for naturalization at U.S. District Court, Western PA at
> Pittsburg
> STRUBBE, Herman Henry, native of Germany; owes allegiance to King  of
> Hanover; dated 11 Oct. 1848; filed 5 July 1852.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Jan Strubbe
> _jstrubbe(a)gmail.com_ (mailto:jstrubbe(a)gmail.com)   or _rntennis(a)aol.com_
> (mailto:rntennis(a)aol.com)
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Re: [HN] Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke , Hannover

Date: 2007/06/04 18:34:25
From: Linda (Wood) Ott <lleewood(a)gmail.com>

Hello,

I am new to this list and do not know any German, but I do have
friends who can possibly translate any answers from German to English.

I am looking for information concerning the Johann(es) Heinrich
DUENSING family who emigrated from the village of Nöpke (near
Rodenwald) in Hannover, arriving at New Orleans on October 21, 1843 on
board the ship "Everhard". The family members included the following
persons (the DUENSING surname is misspelled on the ship's manifest):
     "Joh. Hch. Dunsing", age 57 (Johann Heinrich or Henry Duensing,
b. ca. 1776)
     "Doroth. Dunsing", age 54 (Dorotha or Dorothy Duensing, b. ca. 1779)
     "Wilh. Dunsing", age 24 (Wilhemine/Wilhelmina or Louisa
Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
     "Maria Dunsing", age 24 (Maria or Mary Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
     "Ferd. Dunsing", age 11 (Ferdinand Duensing, actually age 14, b.
Nov 24, 1828)
     "Wilh. Dunsing", age 7 (Wilhelm or William Duensing, b. Feb 21, 1836)

The entire family is found on the U.S. census records beginning in
1850 in Greene Co., Indiana, then later in Cumberland County,
Illinois. Wilhelmine Louisa Duensing also appears to have first
emigrated to the U.S. alone earlier than the rest of her family. She
is found as "Louise Duensing" on the brig "Julia" which arrived in
November of 1838 at New Orleans. She must have then returned to
Germany and traveled again to New Orleans with her family in 1843.

Both Louisa DUENSING and her twin sister, Maria, seem to have married
husbands with the surname GROSSCUP (probably GROßKOPF in German). No
given names for either husband have been found.

If anyone from this list can recommend how I might obtain more
information about the DUENSING family from this area of Hannover and
their connection to the GROSSKOPF family, I would greatly appreciate
hearing from you.

Thank you,
Linda (Wood) Ott
--
"We are the story tellers of the tribe.  All tribes have one. We have
been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry
out to us...'Tell our story', so we do."

Re: [HN] Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke , Hannover

Date: 2007/06/04 20:30:57
From: Maureen Shelly <mcshelly2(a)msn.com>

I have come upon family trees for this surname when searching for my own Hannover ancestors online.  

Put the name into Google and add +genealogy --- or go to Rootsweb.com, Genealogy.com, GeaNet.org and others that have genealogy information.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Linda (Wood) Ott<mailto:lleewood(a)gmail.com> 
  To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net<mailto:hannover-l(a)genealogy.net> 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [HN]Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke, Hannover


  Hello,

  I am new to this list and do not know any German, but I do have
  friends who can possibly translate any answers from German to English.

  I am looking for information concerning the Johann(es) Heinrich
  DUENSING family who emigrated from the village of Nöpke (near
  Rodenwald) in Hannover, arriving at New Orleans on October 21, 1843 on
  board the ship "Everhard". The family members included the following
  persons (the DUENSING surname is misspelled on the ship's manifest):
        "Joh. Hch. Dunsing", age 57 (Johann Heinrich or Henry Duensing,
  b. ca. 1776)
        "Doroth. Dunsing", age 54 (Dorotha or Dorothy Duensing, b. ca. 1779)
        "Wilh. Dunsing", age 24 (Wilhemine/Wilhelmina or Louisa
  Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
        "Maria Dunsing", age 24 (Maria or Mary Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
        "Ferd. Dunsing", age 11 (Ferdinand Duensing, actually age 14, b.
  Nov 24, 1828)
        "Wilh. Dunsing", age 7 (Wilhelm or William Duensing, b. Feb 21, 1836)

  The entire family is found on the U.S. census records beginning in
  1850 in Greene Co., Indiana, then later in Cumberland County,
  Illinois. Wilhelmine Louisa Duensing also appears to have first
  emigrated to the U.S. alone earlier than the rest of her family. She
  is found as "Louise Duensing" on the brig "Julia" which arrived in
  November of 1838 at New Orleans. She must have then returned to
  Germany and traveled again to New Orleans with her family in 1843.

  Both Louisa DUENSING and her twin sister, Maria, seem to have married
  husbands with the surname GROSSCUP (probably GROßKOPF in German). No
  given names for either husband have been found.

  If anyone from this list can recommend how I might obtain more
  information about the DUENSING family from this area of Hannover and
  their connection to the GROSSKOPF family, I would greatly appreciate
  hearing from you.

  Thank you,
  Linda (Wood) Ott
  -- 
  "We are the story tellers of the tribe.  All tribes have one. We have
  been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry
  out to us...'Tell our story', so we do."
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[HN] James: Tottenhoof 1689

Date: 2007/06/04 23:56:33
From: Reinhard J. Freytag <Reinhard.Freytag(a)t-online.de>

Tottenhoff in Hannover: 
 Kopfsteuerbeschreibung der Fürstenthümer
Calenberg-Göttingen und Grubenhagen von 1689: 
Die Alt und Neustadt Hannover sowie die Fürstliche Kanzlei 

Harrmen Todtenhoff ( 30 Jahre alt ), Tischler ,
 verh. mit Margareta Gertrud Voß, ein Kind im Alter von 1-3
Jahren
-- 
___________________________________________________
In der Genealogie ist ein Schritt rückwärts
ein Schritt vorwärts

Schöne Grüsse aus unserer
Universitätsstadt Göttingen
Reinhard J. Freytag
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Re: [HN]Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke, Hannover

Date: 2007/06/05 05:48:09
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Linda,


Not 100% positive... but seems like I have noticed that surname mentioned or as subject in one of the county/biographical histories digitized by Heritage Quest.


If you have tried HQ - online search for biographies containing surname Duensing let me know and and I won't try to locate....

If you haven't .... I'll see if I can locate ....

Warmest Regards,
Barbie-Lew

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Linda (Wood) Ott" <lleewood(a)gmail.com>
Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net
Subject: Re: [HN]Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke, Hannover
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:33:51 -0700

Hello,

I am new to this list and do not know any German, but I do have
friends who can possibly translate any answers from German to English.

I am looking for information concerning the Johann(es) Heinrich
DUENSING family who emigrated from the village of Nöpke (near
Rodenwald) in Hannover, arriving at New Orleans on October 21, 1843 on
board the ship "Everhard". The family members included the following
persons (the DUENSING surname is misspelled on the ship's manifest):
      "Joh. Hch. Dunsing", age 57 (Johann Heinrich or Henry Duensing,
b. ca. 1776)
      "Doroth. Dunsing", age 54 (Dorotha or Dorothy Duensing, b. ca. 1779)
      "Wilh. Dunsing", age 24 (Wilhemine/Wilhelmina or Louisa
Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
      "Maria Dunsing", age 24 (Maria or Mary Duensing, b. Oct 12, 1818)
      "Ferd. Dunsing", age 11 (Ferdinand Duensing, actually age 14, b.
Nov 24, 1828)
      "Wilh. Dunsing", age 7 (Wilhelm or William Duensing, b. Feb 21, 1836)

The entire family is found on the U.S. census records beginning in
1850 in Greene Co., Indiana, then later in Cumberland County,
Illinois. Wilhelmine Louisa Duensing also appears to have first
emigrated to the U.S. alone earlier than the rest of her family. She
is found as "Louise Duensing" on the brig "Julia" which arrived in
November of 1838 at New Orleans. She must have then returned to
Germany and traveled again to New Orleans with her family in 1843.

Both Louisa DUENSING and her twin sister, Maria, seem to have married
husbands with the surname GROSSCUP (probably GROßKOPF in German). No
given names for either husband have been found.

If anyone from this list can recommend how I might obtain more
information about the DUENSING family from this area of Hannover and
their connection to the GROSSKOPF family, I would greatly appreciate
hearing from you.

Thank you,
Linda (Wood) Ott
--
"We are the story tellers of the tribe.  All tribes have one. We have
been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry
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Re: [HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden

Date: 2007/06/05 07:58:03
From: Cactus Flower <barbie8674(a)hotmail.com>

Dear Andrea,

What exact American document do you wish to order?

Where do you order from?

Perhaps I can help you??

I inquire because I have noticed cases where documents obtainable for $0 offered for $$$$.

Warmest Regards,
Barbie-Lew







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From: "Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de" <Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de>
Reply-To: Hannover-L <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
To: "Hannover-L" <hannover-l(a)genealogy.net>
Subject: Re: [HN] U.S. money order/amerikanische Urkunden
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:54:01 +0200

Hallo Andrea,

an Deiner Stelle würde ich mir Dollars bei einer Bank (als Bargeld)
holen (geht natürlich nur als ganze Dollar - keine Cents!) und diese in
Alufolie (der Tipp stammt von einem Amerikaner) verpackt per Post
schicken.
So habe ich das auch einmal gemacht und  es hat gut geklappt!
Du kannst auch eine Banküberweisung machen, aber das steht von den
anfallenden Kosten in der Regel in keinem Verhältnis (bei den Kosten
geht es nicht nur um die Höhe des Betrages, sondern es gibt
min.-Gebühren! - Ich hab das früher als Auzubi "von Hand gemacht". Da
steckt schon einiges an Aufwand drin!)  

Liebe Grüße und viel Erfolg!
Bärbel

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> hat jemand Erfahrung in der Bestellung von Amerikanischen Urkunden?
> An wen mit welchen Unterlagen ich mich wenden muss, weiß ich bereits.
> Aber: bezahlt werden kann in "American cash" - dies meint wohl
> US-Dollar-Banknoten
> oder
> U.S. Money Order (per request). Was ist dies? Wo bekommt man es, was
> kostet es?



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[HN] Tobias Ernst Bertram

Date: 2007/06/05 18:16:05
From: ad soepnel <al.soepnel(a)casema.nl>

Tobias Ernst Bertram * ca. 1700 ,ist in Hannover geboren und nach  Gorcum ( Gorinchem) in Holland ausgewandert.

Da heiratete wie Jungermann am 18-03-1722 seine holländische Frau, Anna Snoeck in Gorcum und ist er auch am 28-05-1755 gestorben. Jedoch,in der Kirchnbüchern der Stadt Hannover ist niemand mit diesem Namen gefunden. Der Deutsche Vorname Christophel war seitdem sehr Populär in der Familie Bertram.

Von zwei Kinder kenne ich die Geburtsdaten: Christoffel (Christophel) Bertram * 18-12-722 und Johan Hendrik (Heinrich) Bertram  * 05-07-1726.

Weisst jemand vielleicht mehr von dieser Familie Bertram in Hannover. Wer kann helfen, ich freue mich über jeden Hinweis.

ad schubnell (soepnel)



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Re: [HN] Franco-Prussian War Service Records

Date: 2007/06/05 18:36:50
From: Maureen <mcshelly2(a)msn.com>

My ancestor came in 1868 also and in the family we were told he was a "draft dodger" who ran away rather than serve.
I have been unable to find him in the 1870 Census, either.  There are many sound reasons why persons do not show up in the Census, especially immigrants who are unaware or afraid.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brad Hernlem 
  To: hannover-l(a)genealogy.net 
  Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 AM
  Subject: [HN] Franco-Prussian War Service Records


  Dear Listmembers,

  Are there any source of records or resources available to confirm 
  whether or not a person served in the military during the 
  Franco-Prussian War?

  I have an ancestor who, it is claimed, served in the Franco-Prussian War 
  and then emigrated afterward, in about 1872. Indeed, I have been unable 
  to find him in the 1870 US census while I do find him in the 1875 MN 
  state census. However, his 1900 US census listing states that he 
  emigrated in 1868 (before the war) AND there is an alleged record of a 
  person by his name (Peter Voth), originating from the same village 
  (Hedendorf) and of the same approximate age (23 v. actual age of 25; 
  possible misread) leaving the port of Hamburg in 1868 (see: 
  http://www.genealogy-sh.com/voss.htm ) and a corresponding listing on 
  the ship's manifest of the Steamer Allemannia arriving to the port of 
  New York 7 May 1868.

  I imagine that it is possible that he came in 1868 and then returned to 
  Germany to serve in the war. But this would seem unusual (to me, 
  anyway). Also, I do not find other Voth families in the Neukloster 
  church records (covering Hedendorf) when Peter was a child. I DO know 
  that my ancestor was the Peter born in Hedendorf to Christoph Voth, 
  Schuster in Hedendorf. Christoph emigrated later to MN, too.

  Are there military records, muster rolls, &c. from the Franco-Prussian 
  war that might solve this mystery?

  Best Regards,

  Brad


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Re: [HN] Tobias Ernst Bertram

Date: 2007/06/05 20:09:54
From: Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de <Ebeling-Verden(a)t-online.de>

Hallo Ed,

nur eine Möglichkeit, ob es wirklich passt, kann ich leider nicht sagen:

Der älteste "meiner" Bertram ist Friedrich Christoph Georg BERTRAM,
*1838 in Bösinghausen (heute Waake) bei Göttingen. Der Vorname ERNST ist
auch vorgekommen.

Allerdings ist der Familienname nicht so selten und ich bin in der Linie
noch nicht weiter......

Viel Erfolg!

Liebe Grüße
Bärbel

-----Original Message-----
> Tobias Ernst Bertram * ca. 1700 ,ist in Hannover geboren und nach 
> Gorcum ( Gorinchem) in Holland ausgewandert.
> 
> Da heiratete wie Jungermann am 18-03-1722 seine holländische Frau,
> Anna Snoeck in Gorcum und ist er auch am 28-05-1755 gestorben.
> Jedoch,in der Kirchnbüchern der Stadt Hannover ist niemand mit diesem
> Namen gefunden. Der Deutsche Vorname Christophel war seitdem sehr
> Populär in der Familie Bertram.
> 
> Von zwei Kinder kenne ich die Geburtsdaten: Christoffel (Christophel)
> Bertram * 18-12-722 und Johan Hendrik (Heinrich) Bertram  *
> 05-07-1726.
>


[HN] Christian KATSEL geb.1820

Date: 2007/06/05 22:04:20
From: Waltraud von Salzen <waltraud.von.salzen(a)ewetel.net>

Liebe Listies!

Ich habe eine Anfrage aus Kalifornien.Hat jemand von Euch diesen Namen schon
einmal gehört?

Christian KATSEL, geb.1820
Er soll zwischen 1846-48 nach Amerika ausgewandert sein und ist in
Davenport, Washington, gestorben.

Kennt jemand den Namen und dessen Herkunft?

Danke für jeden Hinweis

Waltraud


[HN] MARHENKE help

Date: 2007/06/06 02:37:04
From: bob marhenke <bobmarval(a)juno.com>

Hello to all on the list. 

I have been monitoring this list for several years.  Every now and then I
put out my plea for MARHENKE information hoping some one will connect
with it.  

My MARHENKES came from southwest of Hannover from the Marienhagen,
Deinsen, Weensen, Wallensen, Thüste, Banteln area of Germany.  I have a
large database of MARHENKE information from this area but have never been
able to connect with a cousin in Germany.  If you know a MARHENKE,
connect with a MARHENKE or are a MARHENKE, I would appreciate receiving
or exchanging information with you.

The MARHENKE name is not a common name, even in Germany and I have the
feeling every one with this name connects some how.  From Nebraska USA

Re: [HN] Johann Heinrich Duensing family from Nöpke , Hannover

Date: 2007/06/06 05:34:56
From: Linda (Wood) Ott <lleewood(a)gmail.com>

Hi Maureen and Barbie-Lew:

Thank you both for your suggestions.  I have searched many of the
online resources and found quite a bit of information for my Duensing
family group once they reached the U.S., but I now am trying to find
out more about them from the German end.

I have learned that other researchers often have information that is
not available online, and I have been connecting with a great group of
people who are willing to share what they have found. That is  why I
joined this Hannover list.

Barbie-Lew, you have a very good memory. There is a Duensing family in
the histories at HeritageQuest, but that is not the family I am
related to. Thanks for the offer to help.

Maureeen, I am acquainted with most of the resources you suggest,
except for GeaNet.org. When I searched for that URL, I only came up
with an electronics firm. Can you provide the correct link to that
site?

I hope to also be of help to others from this list in the future.

Warm regards to all,

Linda Ott

Re: [HN] Johann Heinrich Duensing family from N ö pk e, Hannover

Date: 2007/06/06 07:02:27
From: R&B Stewart <raybarbara(a)comcast.net>

Hi Linda,

  Look on this page:
    http://feefhs.org/de/han/hanrl/hanrl.html

 scroll down to "Knoepfel, Don" and you will see some Duensings from the
Nöpke area. Don has been on this list - so if you don't hear from him, you
could write to him at the email listed there.

   Have you looked at the Hannover archives?

http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/

I saw a number of Duensings listed there, but not your specific family.
Maybe you can find a connection there. Enter the name of Duensing and Nöpke
and you will find several returns. Or put Johann Duensing and you will get
other returns. I can help you if you have trouble managing that site--I
don't really know German, but have managed to fumble around enough to find
somethings in German records.

Barbara 


 Hello,
> 
> I am new to this list and do not know any German, but I do have
> friends who can possibly translate any answers from German to English.
> 
> I am looking for information concerning the Johann(es) Heinrich
> DUENSING family who emigrated from the village of Nöpke (near
> Rodenwald) in Hannover, arriving at New Orleans on October 21, 1843 on
> board the ship "Everhard". The family members included the following
> persons (the DUENSING surname is misspelled on the ship's manifest):
>       "Joh. Hch. Dunsing", age 57 (Johann Heinrich or Henry Duensing,
> b. ca. 1776)
>       "Doroth. Dunsing", age 54 (Dorotha or Dorothy Duensing, b. ca. 1779)
>