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2007/04/19 09:18:21 RA Machost [HN] Neuvorstellung Bartholfelde + Alt-Walmoden |
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2007/04/20 08:58:27 Cactus Flower Re: [HN] George Edward Hattorf in New York, or the never ending story |
Betreff | 2007/04/20 14:17:22 Harry Harfst [HN] Grafschaft Hoya, Schwier, Zieg(e)ler. |
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2007/04/10 18:39:55 Ahlswehde [HN] Ahlschwede, Ahlswede in Hajen |
Autor | 2007/04/20 11:51:22 AJHattorf Re: [HN] George Edward Hattorf (Barbie) |
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Date: 2007/04/19 15:44:25
From: AJHattorf <AJHattorf(a)aol.com>
Dear members of the list George Edward Hattorf, the endless story, we have had a discussion about him some weeks ago. Meanwhile i have got his pension files from NARA. Very good 32 pieces of paper full of informations. So i should be happy shouldn’t I? I told you before i never could find him in the 1870, 1880 and 1900 census. Well he was about 10 years old as his father Frederick A. Hattorf, puts him in an orphenage. His mother Julia M. Hattorf died around 1855. He never knew his real date of birth, so he was talking of September 1844, 1845, 1846, 1847….. so to search him means to search all years between 1843 and 1848. He was a volunteer in the army in 1862 but he was not 18 as he thought he was just 16 years old, when he served together with his brother Frederick in the 13th New York Artillery. After his military duty he was for a certain time in the army corps, but he is DEFINITIFELY back in New York City in the year 1876 and he stayed there till his end in 1911. (even he died in Florida, perhaps he made a holiday trip or whatever) But now the hardest shock, to get his military pension he explained ….. I WAS NEVER MARRIED !!! So i have only a Georger Hatorf in the 1910 census, single born 1845, what is the absolut correct date of birth same year of birth as in the 1850 census New York. So i have no doubt that this is the right one. But he is not in 1880 and not in 1900. Yes I know we have been talking about a GEORGE HATTORF who is listet in the 1900 census living in New York born around 1848 salesman, with wife Jennie and 3 boys Fredrick, August and George. IF i say IF George was never married who is that George Hattorf in the 1900 census???? A misspelling of Huttorf or Hottorf???? But why cant i find then ONE of those 5 persons in the 1900 census in another census year even using only the first name and the year of birth even if their family name would be Barbarella i should find them. Nothing in 1910, 1920 and 1930 and the 3 boys are much to young to die. Perhaps one could have had an accident but not all 3. And the names Frederick, August and George absolutely perfect. The name of the father, the grandfather and the brother of the father of George Edward, but he was not married i know…. Or was George Edward Hattorf a …. liar??? Didn’t he want to spend his 12 dollar pension with his wife, cause he has left his family? Any suggestions and any ideas how I can identify that George in the 1900 census??? My best to you all Armin